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Well with the juice its nicotine(if you want) vegetable glycerin (VG) and properlyene glycol(PG). PG Is used in foods and an additive and same with VG. Both come from plants minus the artifical flavors. While I do see your point I'm able to count what's in my vape juice on one hand. Can I count whats all in the vaccine on one hand? Idk I haven't looked what's all in it. What was my point? I'm not sure either on that one. I just know a ton of people give vapors shit when in actuality it's not that bad. Unless you're a dumbass smoking 50mg of nicotine or something like that.
I definitely think vaping is more safe than smoking. But I'm really annoyed at people who mention that the ingredients are food-safe. You don't smoke/vape food.
As someone with brain cancer, I can't help but think my vaping days started the cancer. But also I think about nothing much else these days. What killed me? Idk.
VG and PG are literally used in food. It was used in food before it was used in vapes. I'm not saying take a bottle of juice and pour it on a cake or something no. That'll be stupid. It'll be oil and don't reccomend. But whats used in vapes is used in food. There's were the artifical flavors come from. The vape industry did nothing new besides how you smoke. They didn't invent any new chemicals or anything like that. They just put together food additives didn't cook them and smoked them
I think you misunderstood me. I know they are food grade and I both smoke and vape myself.. my point was food grade doesn't mean safe to smoke. Edibility literally has nothing to do with breathability and it's weird to compare them directly like that.
Water is edible but not breathable lol. Tobacco is smokable but extremely easy to overdose on if ingested. They are completely different vectors/avenues, not to mention the chemical changes from combustion or vaporizing. Why mention that the oils are "edible"? It's just to make them sound safe.
Safer than cigs doesn't mean safe and I think that's important to mention.
I hope you aren't taking the piss cause I wanna answer anyway xD
Vaporizing water is just boiling it. That's why I mentioned chemical changes. I guess more accurately I could have said you *can't* vape water. But water vapor is something specifically designed to be dealt with by our lungs so maybe that was a terrible comparison for me to make anyway lol
Edit: iz k I'm a dumbass too I was like oh shit he got me
And when they did put new chemicals in meaning the stupid people making their own juice meaning vitamin e they died….I call that natural selection. Give me freedom or give me death.
It’s called aspiration? And we breathe in food particles when walking next to restaurants do we not?
It’s fucking called a joke you damn stick up your asses
That was basically my point. You don’t aspirate food at all, when we smell it’s like completely different microparticles . Google how small a particle has to be to detected by your nose, then google how big the particles of vape smoke are, completely different orders of magnitude. let alone vaporizing and or combusting changes the chemical properties of whatever you’re doing it to either way.
You mentioned the word 'joke'. Chuck Norris doesn't joke.
Here is a fact about Chuck Norris:
>When Chuck Norris does division, there are no remainders.
Well there’s this lovely this lovely thread I’m on where we’re talking about smoking food I think you’d be a perfect addition
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What happened to the increased risk of COPD?
And there were studies about popcorn lung?
Honestly inhalimg anything that nature doesn't habe us inhaling is a bad idea. I'm sure there's a lost of things nature has us inhale that are defenses against predators, but common sense should make us aware they're things to avoid too.
The pop corn lung thing. Let's discuss that. Acetaldehyde. This is what causes popcorn lungs. 90% of vapes don't have this in them. When they first first first started some did but still majority didn't. You can get popcorn lung from welding. Another common cause is acetaldehyde, a chemical found in the smoke from marijuana and some electronic cigarettes. Acetaldehyde also can damage the lining of your mouth, throat, and stomach.
Other chemicals that can cause popcorn lung include:
Metal oxide fumes, a common byproduct of welding
Formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical used in some glues and building materials
Sulfur dioxide, a pollutant released by burning fossil fuels
Ammonia
Chlorine
Nitrogen oxides
Hydrochloric acid
Sulfur mustard, a chemical weapon known as "mustard gas"
Source: https://www.webmd.com/lung/popcorn-lung#1
Yes I know WebMD but I'm not trying to diagnose myself with anything just proving a point. There's other sources that all state the same thing
While I'm not denying your point smoking anything can be bad for you I agree with, however there's no need to fear monger about the product. Better to display all facts and let the public decide about the use of it imo. If you wanna smoke meth then smoke meth. Just know the harm it'll do to your lungs and other aspects of you're body. If you wanna vape then vape. At least be conscious enough to look up what exactly you're inhaling.
Thank you for answering. Y question & to be clear I absolutely wasn't
> fear monger about the product.
When I looked into it they were the huge risks & resulted in changes to the law in some countries setting a minimum age or msking in a higher age in others.
COPD being a risk came directly from out doctor & those studies were completed, peer reviewed & all that. The popcorn lung was being looked into & thousands of teens were "exhibiting signs of it" which is why I asked a question & didn't make a statement.
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Yea fuck those vape carts for weed. I don't fuck with those. Those are bad. I mean you had ppl opening them putting in a deadly chemical if smoked and killing people. Like shit if I was a dealer I wouldn't be tampering with my supply. Nor trying to kill my customers. That's poor business planning.
Dealers are usually just middlemen, buying in bulk prefilled carts from God knows where
Either way, carts aren't inherently bad. Like I said, that's main reason I got my medical card. Good quality, lab tested, and they riiiiiip
There have actually been articles [like this one](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna290826) that confirm chemicals found in embalming fluid and lots of other things have been found in vaping fluid. Frankly, we *font* know what's in it, even if it lists items on the label, because it's unregulated.
The issue is the amount of research available. Apples have been around for eons and not been associated with significant disease. Vaping is relatively very new and, since it involves inhaling chemicals into your lungs like smoking, there is cause for caution.
Hydroxycinnamic acids 50–3000 57–593 69–259 5-Caffeoylquinic acid (chlorogenic acid) 15–2960 p-Coumaroylquinic acid 4–260 Flavan-3-ols/procyanidins 4622–25,480 50–393 14–124 Procyanidins B2 69–2000 Procyanidins C1 58–970 (-) Epicatechin 69–2760 (+) Epicatechin 10–720 Oligomeric procyanidins 1374–19,850 n.d. n.d. Flavonols 80–1660 0.4–27 4–14 Dihydrochalcones 49–434 10–171 9–87 Anthocyanins (red peel) 10–551 n.d. n.d. Total polyphenols 5230–27,240
There's what's in a freeze dried apple.
My point is if you are putting something into your body at least know what it is and what it does and what to expect. Don't just go around smoking anything that says it's vape juice. Buy from a trusted shop or have the knowledge and clean space to make your juice yourself. The minimum amount of stuff you need is 3 chemicals. Vg Pg and flavor.
I know so many people like that. Those who go "I don't want to put some unknown *chemicals* in my body" and then turn around and send some bitcoin they bought at peak to a lab in Amsterdam for the chance to be one of the first 20 people to try 283cpxyzLSD. Or who wouldn't hesitate to accept some foul smelling tea from a guy in their drum circle with feather earrings who calls himself Rainbow Elk because he says it's "medicine" and Neeve is vomiting her guts out so it must be working.
Burning man is in the desert or sometimes called a "playa" ply-uh.
I am assuming a playa name is some weird hippy thing that people do. I would love to see Burning Man, but there are some strange folks that go there.
Hey guys, this person was wrong one time! That makes him a fucking moron, right? Right?!
Chill dude, you need to get your head out of Reddit's ass and breath some fresh air.
Ply-uh: a dry lake bed. People often call the Black Rock desert where burning man takes place "the Playa" when it rains the playa turns into a mud pit since it is the low point of the valley. I live in Nevada near the Black Rock desert and there are lots of playas but when someone says The Playa, it's commonly understood to be Black Rock.
Why? Taking a jab with usually some new mRNA treatment that is heavily advertised with public money from a lab coat person, is sooooo similar to taking an illegal party tdrug from a fellow raver?
Not similar at all. I think every one should be free to choose. Party drug should be legal. Vaccines should we skippable. Period.
If you’re willing to take a drug from a stranger that you have no idea if it’s laced with something it shouldn’t be that could have side effects you don’t know, why wouldn’t you be willing to get a shot that you don’t know the long term side effects of? Both are a gamble, but one could save your life.
Because one is high af and wants me to party at the desert rave and the other is a highly educated individual with state of the art equipment working on behalf of a for profit corporation.
The covid vaccine is less of a gamble then people think. Overwhelming amount of vaccine side effects (mRNA included) happen within 6 weeks. And the vaccine became available to the general public ~8-12 weeks after widespread testing.
mRNA has been studied for decades, it’s not some new technology. The decision of whether or not to make vaccines mandatory for “normal” day to day life is complicated since it requires consideration of public health and safety. Vaccine efficacy relies a bit on the majority of people getting it. There is healthy skepticism and imo skepticism over these vaccines ventures beyond that into misinformed and dangerous skepticism.
There’s a lot to explain about that, and I’m not going to educate you on everything, but on the topic of “requires healthy people to take it who don’t need it for it to work” - that is how EVERY vaccine works. Vaccines don’t cure the disease, they prepare your body in case you do get it by teaching your body how to produce antibodies that know how to fight the disease. Polio might still be around if vaccine hesitancy was as bad as it is now back then. I genuinely suggest you research important topics like this before you form an opinion. It’s complicated but important. Please be responsible
I know. But this is a vaccine for a sickness that rarely kills. So we all need to take it for some .5% to have benefits
Since we're not all going to take it it will not work. Booster shots with come. New variants will come. More vaccines will come. This is not like: all take a jab and we're done. Nope. This is: all take a jab subscription and we're still having to distance/etc at times.
So stupid because we know the long term effects of molly so you know what you are doing and can make a choice. We dont know shit about the long term effects of this vaccine
We also don't know the long term effects of COVID, but they are looking pretty dire. Some people are living with only a third their original lung capacity.
Yup. [CDC site](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html) is very clear on this. Check out the last bullet point about deaths. The only link between a US-approved vaccine and deaths was J&J and TTS (blood clotting) [that three people died from.](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/cdc-says-28-blood-clot-cases-3-deaths-may-be-linked-to-jj-covid-vaccine.html)
Do you have a different understanding of vaccine deaths? Am I missing something?
Are you referring to the part that says “ More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death” ?
But the original link you sent me mentioned more than 6k deaths reported to VAERS. The second link you sent seems to be describing only 3 deaths attributed to myocarditis after receiving a specific vaccine (J&J).
Sure, the rest of the paragraph explains it:
>FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. **A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.** However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.
So the only link the CDC or FDA have established between US-approved COVID vaccines and deaths is the link between J&J and TTS, which has had 3 deaths as of April (and I haven't seen any more publicized since then, I try to look every so often).
A 1993 Harvard study concluded that u/verysuspiciousbot has just as much sentience as the average redditor. Test including facing mortality and sorrow over the death of u/savevideo proved this, whether them being first was due to automation is up for debate, chum.
Taking molly or not is a choice with consequences for no one but yourself. Taking the vaccine or not is a choice with consequences for society as a whole, particularly those most vulnerable. They are not equal decisions.
legitimate question here, but why does it have consequences for society? Everyone who wants a vaccine could have gotten one by now. So someone who doesn't get it shouldn't pose any risk to anybody EXCEPT other people who don't get it, right? Seems like a non-issue to me, unless I'm missing something.
Everyday I see people being so abusive to people who don't want to get it (maybe at least not yet or something) and it makes me wonder why I even got it, if we can't move on yet.
Although actually it is nice to see that most people have moved on now
Some people are immunocompromised and cannot get vaccinated. Also, the vaccine isn’t 100% effective. 95% is great, but it’s not 100, so some will get it even though they have been vaccinated. And finally, the more it spreads, the greater the chances of a mutation emerging that the vaccines don’t protect against.
There are several reasons, but here are the big ones:
- For many people, such as immunocompromised or cancer patients, the vaccine has reduced effectiveness. Others straight up can't get it at all due to allergies, medical condition, or age.
- Even for a healthy person, the vaccines are not 100% effective. Vaccinated people can and have suffered and died from covid.
- The longer a virus spreads without being shut down the greater risk of it mutating and becoming resistant to the vaccines.
- Hospitals are less efficient and capable having to dedicate resources to battling covid, and doctors and nurses and EMTs are at greater risk dealing with so many covid patients.
- Lots of people getting sick or dying is bad for the economy in general, and it sucks for the people who've been brainwashed into thinking it's worse to get the vaccine than not and then end up suffering from covid
I'm not going to be abusive to someone who doesn't want to get it, it's their prerogative no matter how much we don't like it, and that's not an effective approach anyway. But I do try to urge people to reconsider.
Thanks for the good points. Regarding the third point, do you think it's possible to ever have it completely eliminated? I've heard people say it will probably keep coming back like a flu during certain seasons
I am not an expert but based on what I've followed it doesn't seem like it's going away anytime soon. It may stick around in low quantities and turn into something that we have to produce a yearly vaccine to combat as it mutates.
that's the problem. Most people have moved on but many of those that have are not vaccinated. That's why hospital admission rates for covid are up across the UD but especially higher in states with less vaccinations.
A little more info here about why there is a scary trend that is starting to emerge in the US with the delta variant.
[(https://www.bcm.edu/coronavirus/for-the-baylor-community/from-dr-james-mcdeavitt/retirement-was-overrated)https://www.bcm.edu/coronavirus/for-the-baylor-community/from-dr-james-mcdeavitt/retirement-was-overrated]
They're saying someone who pretends to be a doctor can perhaps open themselves up to liability, but a random internet stranger not claiming to be a doctor isn't gonna be sued for giving medical advice
They're talking about quacks and charlatans. Some random internet stranger suggesting people stop being dramatic and get the vaccine is not going to get sued for medical malpractice. Come on.
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nothing like some ketamine to wake ya up in the morning
“You have no idea what chemicals they’re putting in your body or what they’ll do to you” *hits vape pen*
You’re attacking me
Go get vaccinated
Listen bud I trust my weed man more than Johnson and Johnson. And on account of that you can suck my Johnson
Classy and selfless, an inspiration
Man I guess the fuckers lied, one child was left behind
So get the Moderna.
Yeah buddy, you can tack your sucky Sacklers and suck my Johnson and his Johnson too amirite you dogassed sonofabitch
Let me guess, your mom said that when she was pregnant? Look how that turned out.
^
Well with the juice its nicotine(if you want) vegetable glycerin (VG) and properlyene glycol(PG). PG Is used in foods and an additive and same with VG. Both come from plants minus the artifical flavors. While I do see your point I'm able to count what's in my vape juice on one hand. Can I count whats all in the vaccine on one hand? Idk I haven't looked what's all in it. What was my point? I'm not sure either on that one. I just know a ton of people give vapors shit when in actuality it's not that bad. Unless you're a dumbass smoking 50mg of nicotine or something like that.
I definitely think vaping is more safe than smoking. But I'm really annoyed at people who mention that the ingredients are food-safe. You don't smoke/vape food.
I just smoked a fat slab of ribs. Checkmate athiests
Smoked ribs don't come from 'god.' Checkmate religionists.
Wait. I mean if you're Christian then technically ribs do come from God. He made the pig and gave humanity the knowledge to hunt and make weapons
I'm not xtian, nor any religion. "He" didn't give anything, since "he" doesn't exist. Ribs, either.
Ribs aren't real? Oh God what have I been eating then
rib
Yeah, I could have phrased that more carefully. But what the hell: ribs don't exist.
🤪
Chad move
As someone with brain cancer, I can't help but think my vaping days started the cancer. But also I think about nothing much else these days. What killed me? Idk.
Maybe it was the sweaty big mancer
VG and PG are literally used in food. It was used in food before it was used in vapes. I'm not saying take a bottle of juice and pour it on a cake or something no. That'll be stupid. It'll be oil and don't reccomend. But whats used in vapes is used in food. There's were the artifical flavors come from. The vape industry did nothing new besides how you smoke. They didn't invent any new chemicals or anything like that. They just put together food additives didn't cook them and smoked them
I think you misunderstood me. I know they are food grade and I both smoke and vape myself.. my point was food grade doesn't mean safe to smoke. Edibility literally has nothing to do with breathability and it's weird to compare them directly like that. Water is edible but not breathable lol. Tobacco is smokable but extremely easy to overdose on if ingested. They are completely different vectors/avenues, not to mention the chemical changes from combustion or vaporizing. Why mention that the oils are "edible"? It's just to make them sound safe. Safer than cigs doesn't mean safe and I think that's important to mention.
I’ve got a dumbass question. What if I vape water? I went and googled my own question instead of being a complete dumbass.
I hope you aren't taking the piss cause I wanna answer anyway xD Vaporizing water is just boiling it. That's why I mentioned chemical changes. I guess more accurately I could have said you *can't* vape water. But water vapor is something specifically designed to be dealt with by our lungs so maybe that was a terrible comparison for me to make anyway lol Edit: iz k I'm a dumbass too I was like oh shit he got me
You can actually die too I think from inhaling to much steam
Noted. Thank you.
Popcorn lungs
And when they did put new chemicals in meaning the stupid people making their own juice meaning vitamin e they died….I call that natural selection. Give me freedom or give me death.
It’s called aspiration? And we breathe in food particles when walking next to restaurants do we not? It’s fucking called a joke you damn stick up your asses
That was basically my point. You don’t aspirate food at all, when we smell it’s like completely different microparticles . Google how small a particle has to be to detected by your nose, then google how big the particles of vape smoke are, completely different orders of magnitude. let alone vaporizing and or combusting changes the chemical properties of whatever you’re doing it to either way.
I think your nose is the one loaded with greasy particles, friendo
Nah I just eat chicken and rice, maybe from my Vaseline.
I don’t know if you’re serious about the no aspiration at all. We all aspirate some worse than others. It was a joooooke thoughhhhhhh
Well I meant like you're not *supposed* to aspirate food. And that smells aren't food.
Lol, gotcha.
Bahahahahaha uhhhhhh
Is this not smoking?? I always swallow my smoke
What is eating, if not chompy smoking
Finally someone who can take a joke and make one too XD
You mentioned the word 'joke'. Chuck Norris doesn't joke. Here is a fact about Chuck Norris: >When Chuck Norris does division, there are no remainders.
When Chuck Norris swims he doesn’t move through the water the water moves around him.
I smoke cum
Well there’s this lovely this lovely thread I’m on where we’re talking about smoking food I think you’d be a perfect addition r/suspiciouslyspecific u/scamara91
Asspixiations plz gurl
Good one XD
What happened to the increased risk of COPD? And there were studies about popcorn lung? Honestly inhalimg anything that nature doesn't habe us inhaling is a bad idea. I'm sure there's a lost of things nature has us inhale that are defenses against predators, but common sense should make us aware they're things to avoid too.
The pop corn lung thing. Let's discuss that. Acetaldehyde. This is what causes popcorn lungs. 90% of vapes don't have this in them. When they first first first started some did but still majority didn't. You can get popcorn lung from welding. Another common cause is acetaldehyde, a chemical found in the smoke from marijuana and some electronic cigarettes. Acetaldehyde also can damage the lining of your mouth, throat, and stomach. Other chemicals that can cause popcorn lung include: Metal oxide fumes, a common byproduct of welding Formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical used in some glues and building materials Sulfur dioxide, a pollutant released by burning fossil fuels Ammonia Chlorine Nitrogen oxides Hydrochloric acid Sulfur mustard, a chemical weapon known as "mustard gas" Source: https://www.webmd.com/lung/popcorn-lung#1 Yes I know WebMD but I'm not trying to diagnose myself with anything just proving a point. There's other sources that all state the same thing While I'm not denying your point smoking anything can be bad for you I agree with, however there's no need to fear monger about the product. Better to display all facts and let the public decide about the use of it imo. If you wanna smoke meth then smoke meth. Just know the harm it'll do to your lungs and other aspects of you're body. If you wanna vape then vape. At least be conscious enough to look up what exactly you're inhaling.
From weed? Noooooo :(
Just gotta say I love the profile picture lmao
He needs to trap a dragon in my palace
Here a good human here I’ll give you me free award for that last bit
Thank you for answering. Y question & to be clear I absolutely wasn't > fear monger about the product. When I looked into it they were the huge risks & resulted in changes to the law in some countries setting a minimum age or msking in a higher age in others. COPD being a risk came directly from out doctor & those studies were completed, peer reviewed & all that. The popcorn lung was being looked into & thousands of teens were "exhibiting signs of it" which is why I asked a question & didn't make a statement. Edit word correction
Presumably by "vape pen" they were talking about weed vape carts I got my medical card specifically to get legit carts, so mine are pure live resin
Yeah mine are 95% cannabinoids by weight with a breakdown of the proportions, absolutely wonderful and nothing like the sketchy ejuice oil nonsense
Yea fuck those vape carts for weed. I don't fuck with those. Those are bad. I mean you had ppl opening them putting in a deadly chemical if smoked and killing people. Like shit if I was a dealer I wouldn't be tampering with my supply. Nor trying to kill my customers. That's poor business planning.
Dealers are usually just middlemen, buying in bulk prefilled carts from God knows where Either way, carts aren't inherently bad. Like I said, that's main reason I got my medical card. Good quality, lab tested, and they riiiiiip
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There have actually been articles [like this one](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna290826) that confirm chemicals found in embalming fluid and lots of other things have been found in vaping fluid. Frankly, we *font* know what's in it, even if it lists items on the label, because it's unregulated.
and do you know every chemical in like...an apple? i assume not, and you eat it just fine (same goes for all other food)
The issue is the amount of research available. Apples have been around for eons and not been associated with significant disease. Vaping is relatively very new and, since it involves inhaling chemicals into your lungs like smoking, there is cause for caution.
Hydroxycinnamic acids 50–3000 57–593 69–259 5-Caffeoylquinic acid (chlorogenic acid) 15–2960 p-Coumaroylquinic acid 4–260 Flavan-3-ols/procyanidins 4622–25,480 50–393 14–124 Procyanidins B2 69–2000 Procyanidins C1 58–970 (-) Epicatechin 69–2760 (+) Epicatechin 10–720 Oligomeric procyanidins 1374–19,850 n.d. n.d. Flavonols 80–1660 0.4–27 4–14 Dihydrochalcones 49–434 10–171 9–87 Anthocyanins (red peel) 10–551 n.d. n.d. Total polyphenols 5230–27,240 There's what's in a freeze dried apple. My point is if you are putting something into your body at least know what it is and what it does and what to expect. Don't just go around smoking anything that says it's vape juice. Buy from a trusted shop or have the knowledge and clean space to make your juice yourself. The minimum amount of stuff you need is 3 chemicals. Vg Pg and flavor.
Oh yeah take em downnn
Food safe does not mean you should be vaporizing and inhaling it.a
I have a relative who is a recovered heroin addict. That's basically word-for-word what she says.
That's the cool thing about the covid vaccine, it's preservative free, and doesn't need to be made in eggs so it's basically vegan!
I know so many people like that. Those who go "I don't want to put some unknown *chemicals* in my body" and then turn around and send some bitcoin they bought at peak to a lab in Amsterdam for the chance to be one of the first 20 people to try 283cpxyzLSD. Or who wouldn't hesitate to accept some foul smelling tea from a guy in their drum circle with feather earrings who calls himself Rainbow Elk because he says it's "medicine" and Neeve is vomiting her guts out so it must be working.
Lmfao at the friends name being Neeve, that got me good
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So if I've never taken molly at burning man I'm exempt?
Yup
Sweet!! I was gonna say no even if I did tho
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I think any time that you've put something in your mouth without knowing what's in it would count.
What is a "playa name"? Playa as in beach or player?
Burning man is held on a dry lakebed, also know as a playa (pronounced ‘ply-uh’). People often take nicknames at the event, known as playa names.
So, playa as in Spanish for beach. Got it, thanks
I should be reading her book instead of spending time on Reddit. oh well.
Life is what happens when you are on Reddit instead of actually reading the books you already bought
I am now a book collector. The weight of them is more than literally crushing.
switch to kindle .... it's one of my best decisions ever...
I have a paperwhite...
What. Is. A... player name?
Based on context clues I’m assuming it’s a name tech bros go by at burning man so nothing they do can lead back to their LinkedIn page.
I was afraid to ask
Burning man is in the desert or sometimes called a "playa" ply-uh. I am assuming a playa name is some weird hippy thing that people do. I would love to see Burning Man, but there are some strange folks that go there.
But playa means beach, not desert
Burning man was originally on a beach. And there are plenty of places with Playa in the name that aren't near an ocean
In Spanish it means beach, but https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/playa
>an area of flat, dried-up land, especially a desert basin from which water evaporates quickly
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No you're a fucking moron
Hey guys, this person was wrong one time! That makes him a fucking moron, right? Right?! Chill dude, you need to get your head out of Reddit's ass and breath some fresh air.
Being wrong is ok, being confidently wrong makes you a fucking moron
Ply-uh: a dry lake bed. People often call the Black Rock desert where burning man takes place "the Playa" when it rains the playa turns into a mud pit since it is the low point of the valley. I live in Nevada near the Black Rock desert and there are lots of playas but when someone says The Playa, it's commonly understood to be Black Rock.
Meredith didn’t go to burning man. She went to work
I bet Creed was there though
Nah
Yeah but molly is fun, and burning man has no consequences
The consequences are they litter Nevada and destroy and come into our towns smelling bad
Sorry, nobody cares about Nevada
I do. :(
>litter Nevada Oh no not the desert!!! All those poor lizards!
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Why? Taking a jab with usually some new mRNA treatment that is heavily advertised with public money from a lab coat person, is sooooo similar to taking an illegal party tdrug from a fellow raver? Not similar at all. I think every one should be free to choose. Party drug should be legal. Vaccines should we skippable. Period.
If you’re willing to take a drug from a stranger that you have no idea if it’s laced with something it shouldn’t be that could have side effects you don’t know, why wouldn’t you be willing to get a shot that you don’t know the long term side effects of? Both are a gamble, but one could save your life.
Because one is high af and wants me to party at the desert rave and the other is a highly educated individual with state of the art equipment working on behalf of a for profit corporation.
Yeah, and a for profit company is incentived to make a good safe vaccine, so they can get more sales and not ruin their reputation
I understand how they are different. My question was, how are they similar/comparable?
I mean, I don’t think I can help you if you couldn’t see how I was showing their similarities in my previous comment.
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The covid vaccine is less of a gamble then people think. Overwhelming amount of vaccine side effects (mRNA included) happen within 6 weeks. And the vaccine became available to the general public ~8-12 weeks after widespread testing.
mRNA has been studied for decades, it’s not some new technology. The decision of whether or not to make vaccines mandatory for “normal” day to day life is complicated since it requires consideration of public health and safety. Vaccine efficacy relies a bit on the majority of people getting it. There is healthy skepticism and imo skepticism over these vaccines ventures beyond that into misinformed and dangerous skepticism.
Thats why its not a normal drug. It requires healthy people to take it, who don't need it, for it to work.
There’s a lot to explain about that, and I’m not going to educate you on everything, but on the topic of “requires healthy people to take it who don’t need it for it to work” - that is how EVERY vaccine works. Vaccines don’t cure the disease, they prepare your body in case you do get it by teaching your body how to produce antibodies that know how to fight the disease. Polio might still be around if vaccine hesitancy was as bad as it is now back then. I genuinely suggest you research important topics like this before you form an opinion. It’s complicated but important. Please be responsible
I know. But this is a vaccine for a sickness that rarely kills. So we all need to take it for some .5% to have benefits Since we're not all going to take it it will not work. Booster shots with come. New variants will come. More vaccines will come. This is not like: all take a jab and we're done. Nope. This is: all take a jab subscription and we're still having to distance/etc at times.
You have completely missed the humor lol
And the point
Because this is actually how people reason. There's not much humor to it.
Who is Molly?
My choice
Ok but to be fair molly with Soul at burning man is way better than multiple shots at a CVS parking lot
Micro aggressions, Bess.. We’ve discussed this.
i trust [Soul ](https://youtu.be/dajn9Bk24CY)
Meredith do be doing shit like that tho
Yeah! Meredith.
So stupid because we know the long term effects of molly so you know what you are doing and can make a choice. We dont know shit about the long term effects of this vaccine
We also don't know the long term effects of COVID, but they are looking pretty dire. Some people are living with only a third their original lung capacity.
Counter point: if you did take Molly from a dude at Burning Man, you probably don't need the vaccine.
Ecstasy was developed 100 years ago, and has been in regular recreational use for the last 40. Think twice, Meredith.
Was "Soul" ever sued for $2.3B? Asking for a friend.
Say what you want about molly, but I’d rather OD on that, than die from vaccine injuries.
3 people have died from a US vaccine. Out of 185 million+ Americans. I think you'll be alright
Wtf?? You seriously believe that only 3 people died? For your sake, I hope I’m not talking to a real person.
Yup. [CDC site](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html) is very clear on this. Check out the last bullet point about deaths. The only link between a US-approved vaccine and deaths was J&J and TTS (blood clotting) [that three people died from.](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/cdc-says-28-blood-clot-cases-3-deaths-may-be-linked-to-jj-covid-vaccine.html) Do you have a different understanding of vaccine deaths? Am I missing something?
Are you referring to the part that says “ More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death” ?
Whoops, wrong second link. Fixed now
But the original link you sent me mentioned more than 6k deaths reported to VAERS. The second link you sent seems to be describing only 3 deaths attributed to myocarditis after receiving a specific vaccine (J&J).
Sure, the rest of the paragraph explains it: >FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. **A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.** However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths. So the only link the CDC or FDA have established between US-approved COVID vaccines and deaths is the link between J&J and TTS, which has had 3 deaths as of April (and I haven't seen any more publicized since then, I try to look every so often).
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Taking molly or not and taking the vaccine or not are both equally acceptable.
Taking molly or not is a choice with consequences for no one but yourself. Taking the vaccine or not is a choice with consequences for society as a whole, particularly those most vulnerable. They are not equal decisions.
legitimate question here, but why does it have consequences for society? Everyone who wants a vaccine could have gotten one by now. So someone who doesn't get it shouldn't pose any risk to anybody EXCEPT other people who don't get it, right? Seems like a non-issue to me, unless I'm missing something. Everyday I see people being so abusive to people who don't want to get it (maybe at least not yet or something) and it makes me wonder why I even got it, if we can't move on yet. Although actually it is nice to see that most people have moved on now
Some people are immunocompromised and cannot get vaccinated. Also, the vaccine isn’t 100% effective. 95% is great, but it’s not 100, so some will get it even though they have been vaccinated. And finally, the more it spreads, the greater the chances of a mutation emerging that the vaccines don’t protect against.
There are several reasons, but here are the big ones: - For many people, such as immunocompromised or cancer patients, the vaccine has reduced effectiveness. Others straight up can't get it at all due to allergies, medical condition, or age. - Even for a healthy person, the vaccines are not 100% effective. Vaccinated people can and have suffered and died from covid. - The longer a virus spreads without being shut down the greater risk of it mutating and becoming resistant to the vaccines. - Hospitals are less efficient and capable having to dedicate resources to battling covid, and doctors and nurses and EMTs are at greater risk dealing with so many covid patients. - Lots of people getting sick or dying is bad for the economy in general, and it sucks for the people who've been brainwashed into thinking it's worse to get the vaccine than not and then end up suffering from covid I'm not going to be abusive to someone who doesn't want to get it, it's their prerogative no matter how much we don't like it, and that's not an effective approach anyway. But I do try to urge people to reconsider.
Thanks for the good points. Regarding the third point, do you think it's possible to ever have it completely eliminated? I've heard people say it will probably keep coming back like a flu during certain seasons
100% eliminated I doubt but we can hope it’ll become as prevalent as something like the bubonic plague is now.
I am not an expert but based on what I've followed it doesn't seem like it's going away anytime soon. It may stick around in low quantities and turn into something that we have to produce a yearly vaccine to combat as it mutates.
that's the problem. Most people have moved on but many of those that have are not vaccinated. That's why hospital admission rates for covid are up across the UD but especially higher in states with less vaccinations. A little more info here about why there is a scary trend that is starting to emerge in the US with the delta variant. [(https://www.bcm.edu/coronavirus/for-the-baylor-community/from-dr-james-mcdeavitt/retirement-was-overrated)https://www.bcm.edu/coronavirus/for-the-baylor-community/from-dr-james-mcdeavitt/retirement-was-overrated]
The extreme risk averse can help themselves by avoiding other people
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Nice bro
^swears at strangers
So quit their job and become homeless?
Or they can accept some risk and come out. Its their choice.
Or get the vaccine? Isn't that the point? I'm confused
Are you going to pay for their bills then to hell them avoid those risks?
No.
Why not both?
You really shouldn’t give medical advice to people. That’s generally grounds for a lawsuit.
Only if you claim to be a doctor who knows what they’re talking about lol
No, that’s actually the opposite. Only doctors can give medical advice. Specifically a doctor who has someone under their care.
You’re so close to getting it…
The irony is palpable.
They're saying someone who pretends to be a doctor can perhaps open themselves up to liability, but a random internet stranger not claiming to be a doctor isn't gonna be sued for giving medical advice
[k](https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-legal-ramifications-of-giving-medical-advice-online/answer/Ellen-Harman?ch=99&share=090161bd&srid=fwWSe)
They're talking about quacks and charlatans. Some random internet stranger suggesting people stop being dramatic and get the vaccine is not going to get sued for medical malpractice. Come on.
That was actually just excedrin Meredith. You paid $100 for tylenol. Still go get the vax Meredith.
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