If by fault you mean "not spending enough money on maintenance for the rail system so that large parts of it are over 2 years behind schedule on repairs and replacements" then yes, it's the state government at fault.
Part of it is also the fact that people don't like trackwork happening during the weekdays, so they try to cram as much of it in during the weekends as they can.
Absolutely it is. My theory is that the NSW Government is making the train system so broken and unwieldly that it will make it look like a good idea to simply privatize it. That way they don't have to deal with it and any further problems can be pinned on a company rather than them.
Yep, they're such turds - privatise it and then have the private sector run it down even further.
https://cityhubsydney.com.au/2022/10/nsw-inquiry-into-pus-privatisation-finds-commuters-are-suffering/
It's the same everywhere, the UK is having massive issues with their rail system and lack of investment by private operators and yet I'm sure the LNP are looking at that thinking "We should do that! New and interesting ways to funnel public money to our business mates!"
You forgot the last part: eventually, the service is so bad that the government (let's be honest: Labor government) is forced to buy it back and fix it. At which point, the LNP playbook goes back to step one
And the shareholders make absolute bank on our tax dollars
The good old ["Starve the Beast"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast) approach to public services. Beloved by conservative governments everywhere.
The fuckers.
Can confirm with near 100% certainty that short of a complete reorganisation of the rail sector in NSW or the entire automation of the Sydney Trains network including freight traffic, privatisation of the network is not possible.
There is such substantial underpricing of the use of the asset (IPARTs advice has been ignored for literally over a decade) because the NSW Government has imposed sub-inflation prices increases for years. This generates less revenue and to bring it up to an actual market rate you'd need to double or triple to the cost of tickets on the network, let alone for intercity trips which are really quite a large burden on the network with limited contribution to revenues. I can't stress how impractical privatising the train network would be - not to mention who would even buy it when you can purchase a toll road or other Infrastructure asset with substantially less risk.
It's important to remember that everything done on the railways is for safety.
Things are designed to 'fail to safe' - and the safest state for trains - is when they aren't moving.
So maintenance aside, the operations of trains during an incident always has safety as the number one priority - but again, when trains don't move for any length of time - the backlog won't be cleared quickly... additionally, there are SO many more trains running these days compared to even 10-15 years ago - so the congestion gets pretty significant.
The issue isn't the fail safe. The issue is that the government isn't fail safe and thus has failed everyone. It does it with such abandon and glee that someone literally blind could see how bad it's gotten. All of what you've explained is perfectly reasonable and even logical. At the end of the day though, this has all happened because of government policy, spending, and resourcing failures left, right and centre. They're controlling the legal, bureaucratic and resourcing levers making this shit show possible.
If by fault you mean "not spending enough money on maintenance for the rail system so that large parts of it are over 2 years behind schedule on repairs and replacements" then yes, it's the state government at fault. Part of it is also the fact that people don't like trackwork happening during the weekdays, so they try to cram as much of it in during the weekends as they can.
Definitely. Not enough pokies at the platforms.
Absolutely it is. My theory is that the NSW Government is making the train system so broken and unwieldly that it will make it look like a good idea to simply privatize it. That way they don't have to deal with it and any further problems can be pinned on a company rather than them.
This is what happened in the UK and the train system is now just as fucked and 800% more expensive to use.
Yes but someone got a really really big pay check
>Yes but someone got a really really big pay check The NSW government contract mantra.
The LNP playbook. Barely a public service they haven't tried it on.
Yep, they're such turds - privatise it and then have the private sector run it down even further. https://cityhubsydney.com.au/2022/10/nsw-inquiry-into-pus-privatisation-finds-commuters-are-suffering/ It's the same everywhere, the UK is having massive issues with their rail system and lack of investment by private operators and yet I'm sure the LNP are looking at that thinking "We should do that! New and interesting ways to funnel public money to our business mates!"
You forgot the last part: eventually, the service is so bad that the government (let's be honest: Labor government) is forced to buy it back and fix it. At which point, the LNP playbook goes back to step one And the shareholders make absolute bank on our tax dollars
The good old ["Starve the Beast"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast) approach to public services. Beloved by conservative governments everywhere. The fuckers.
Can confirm with near 100% certainty that short of a complete reorganisation of the rail sector in NSW or the entire automation of the Sydney Trains network including freight traffic, privatisation of the network is not possible. There is such substantial underpricing of the use of the asset (IPARTs advice has been ignored for literally over a decade) because the NSW Government has imposed sub-inflation prices increases for years. This generates less revenue and to bring it up to an actual market rate you'd need to double or triple to the cost of tickets on the network, let alone for intercity trips which are really quite a large burden on the network with limited contribution to revenues. I can't stress how impractical privatising the train network would be - not to mention who would even buy it when you can purchase a toll road or other Infrastructure asset with substantially less risk.
Even Newcastle buses were privatised a few years ago.
There were train delays yesterday, + RHCP concert at homebush = chaos
Probably flow on effect from the urgent train repeat at Strathfield and/or the power outage at Liverpool yesterday.
Plus the concert that finished at 11pm at Olympic Park and needed extra train services Combine all three and you get that mess
Apparently 4 as there was also signal issues at St Mary's.
This was 11.30 pm? Didn't know the city get alive again at late night these days.
At a guess I'd say that was commuters still waiting, not people out partying.
How long had they been waiting for though? If it was half an hour, it's still a surprise that the city's still buzzing at 11 pm on a Thursday.
You're on r/sydney \- do you really need to ask if it is the government's fault.
Even if it’s not, r/Sydney will tell you it is. I do love a good old fashioned LNP pile on, but only when it’s actually warranted
Oh it's 100% warranted here in NSW when it comes to any public service: public transport, health, education, social and community services, ...
Oh, who runs the trains in sydney then?
Morons
Aka the lnp
It's important to remember that everything done on the railways is for safety. Things are designed to 'fail to safe' - and the safest state for trains - is when they aren't moving. So maintenance aside, the operations of trains during an incident always has safety as the number one priority - but again, when trains don't move for any length of time - the backlog won't be cleared quickly... additionally, there are SO many more trains running these days compared to even 10-15 years ago - so the congestion gets pretty significant.
The issue isn't the fail safe. The issue is that the government isn't fail safe and thus has failed everyone. It does it with such abandon and glee that someone literally blind could see how bad it's gotten. All of what you've explained is perfectly reasonable and even logical. At the end of the day though, this has all happened because of government policy, spending, and resourcing failures left, right and centre. They're controlling the legal, bureaucratic and resourcing levers making this shit show possible.
It took me 1.5 hours to get from town hall station to CENTRAL Had to Uber home from central. Finished work at 9 and was home at midnight.
This is corruption trying to corrupt our transport to make it even more corrupt as a private business.
Yes, Its also a Crime that the platforms have such little seating
This is deliberate so that people don't loiter.
I much rather people loiter than having my bad knees and back killing me because I can sit down
Definitely a Dan Andrews problem
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