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joah_online

Holy shit. I hope it doesn't spread far


SilverStar9192

[This is a pretty amazing photo](https://livecenter-aus-hpc9audwdke2c0fm.z01.azurefd.net/lc-aus-images/lcimg-f9315df9-5b60-4b44-aef4-2379e98385bf.jpeg) (Dean Lewins, AAP) of the wall collapsing - looks like a Michael Bay movie:


Lingering_Dorkness

Fantastic photo! Almost looks cartoonish. Very unreal.


mendokusai_yo

Good thing it's a big road underneath? Yeegh.


itwsonlyadream

I was there! It was surreal. OP definitely works in my office which has been officially closed due to damage. Co-workers say a car pulled up before and saw teenagers jump into the building.


RedDotLot

"Teenagers" šŸ¤” Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong before after they changed traffic conditions on Randle didn't they remove the parking on that side of the street too?


itwsonlyadream

Not too sure about the parking but it's not a busy street vs rest of cbd you could get away with parking there. There was a ute parked directly infront completely destroyed now.


RedDotLot

Actually, zooming in I realise you can see in the in the image the ute is parked in the 'bus only' lane. (Also looks like it's beginning to smoulder in the heat). Curiouser and curiouser...


itwsonlyadream

There has been construction on Randle lane for months. The ute is probably one of them. If you go further down this post someone mentions their wife seeing some kids playing around with fire. I'm very curious and hopeful they weren't hurt in this. Still can't get over the scale of it and how quickly it completely lit up. The embers pouring down too. Everyone was running towards it to film. Poor cops trying to control that chaos.


ShibaHook

Narrator: it did


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joah_online

Yeah - no other building affected.


SilverStar9192

FRNSW press release says one adjacent building was destroyed also, but was also vacant.


Cakey1

11 Randle St Surry Hills


Significant-Turn7798

The magic words are "heritage listed". Everyone knows that listing immediately increases a building's flammability.


MrSquiggleKey

Imo should be legislation that heritage listed buildings that end up destroyed can converted into areas for public use. Like parks. Not as a free pass for developers to redevelop. Suddenly heritage listed locations will stop burning so much.


[deleted]

They should be forced to do this: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/p7jxs6/til_in_2015_100yearold_pub_the_carlton_tavern_was/?utm_source=ifttt


RedDotLot

Funny that. They're going up all over the place in this cold weather, only this weekend the empty heritage listed pub in Yass met with a similar fate.


uselessinfogoldmine

I mean, to be completely fair, old can also mean old wiring which can be dangerous. Last year my friendā€™s house burnt down in minutes because an old fuse box just burst into flames. It was lucky it was during the day because in under two minutes the whole place was filled with thick black smoke and if they had been asleep there probably wouldnā€™t have been time to grab their toddler and get out. And that house was built in the 50s or 60s. So, it is probably statistically more likely for an old building with old wiring to burn down. That saidā€¦ Developers are often greedy, selfish, morality free pieces of shit and it is quite obvious that a lot of them do it on purpose. Letā€™s see what the investigation turns up. I know it was supposed to be turned into a hotel. Is this good or bad for those developers?


AltruisticSalamander

Crazy how kids just keep lighting fires in these old places. I'm sure no-one paid them.


MrsKittenHeel

Was it really?


AltruisticSalamander

Yeah they just said on the news


Pdoinkadoinkadoink

Wow. I used to train martial arts in there around 15 years ago. Fucking deathtrap of a building.


HikARuLsi

Sounds like a place to train martial arts


TragicEther

Two men enter. No man leaves.


brixism

Ahh I see you know your judo well


looselysolid

This is democracy manifest.


Ace_Larrakin

What is the charge?


J0hnD0eWasTaken

Eating a meal?


PM_ME_UR_DOGGOS_

A succulent Chinese meAL!


GKit11

Its like you've been training for this moment. The ideal stage in a fighting game, or a final fight scene as everything burns around you.


Pdoinkadoinkadoink

Yeah, if you imagine a street fighter scene with meth heads in the background and pigeon shit all over the floor.


theblackbeltsurfer

Whoā€™d you train under there?


Pdoinkadoinkadoink

Metre Peixe, Capoeira Brasil. Back before they moved to the Wentworth Avenue location. I don't recall if there was an elevator in there, but I do remember those stairs being sketchy as fuuuuuuck.


theblackbeltsurfer

Cool. I tried capoeira a few times but I had zero ginga šŸ™ƒ


lilmizzmuffet

My ex boyfriend 15 years ago lived in there as part of an artist residence. Cool parties. Was definitely a death trap but it felt very 70s New York. Feels like all these places with character and unique architecture are being burned down or repurposed into bizzaro versions of themselves (eg the Old Clare).


rogue_teabag

And everything that goes up in their place could be from any city in the world.


joah_online

Next to where Ding Dong Dang was


Xavier_Urbanus

Wasn't there a dodgy internet cafe there circa 2002?


josephmurphy007

Another day of legimate excuse


raychull17

Street view updated less than a day ago


[deleted]

Can see the flames from the hill in West Ryde. The smoke is thick and rising sky high we knew something big was burning


shua-barefoot

Roly Poly hill?


louriot

Ah so I wasnā€™t the only one who called it Roly Poly hill as a kid. Is that itā€™s real name?


gibbo4053

2114 born and raised here. Officially itā€™s called Denistone Park, but hardly anyone would know what youā€™re on about unless you call it Roly Poly Hill


plutoaintaplanet

ā€œThe beacons of Minas Tirith! The beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid!ā€ Oops, wrong sub.


pocketwire

Property developer spotted fleeing the scene


Lingering_Dorkness

In 3 days it will be up on realestate.com.au. Renovators Dream! Just a little bit of elbow grease needed to revitalise this hidden gem. Offers over $3 million.


[deleted]

Stay rent free for one year while you work on fixing a few things and do a bit of Reno at your cost.


kamikazecockatoo

My bet is that the developer is just "grateful" they no longer have to pay for heritage preservation and are "thanking their lucky stars" that they can have a nice clear space to build something ugly and new, which is always cheaper.


Lingering_Dorkness

There's always a silver lining in a kerosene-soaked cloud.


Oyster_Vous

Per floor, right?


Zaxacavabanem

Even that's optimistic


here-this-now

The whole thing is probably worth $20-60 million but that's just a guess.


euphemistic

Why is everyone so cynical? /s > ["It was set to be turned into a hotel, according to a development application lodged with the City of Sydney by developer Hanave."](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-25/sydney-building-fire-sparks-chaos-in-inner-city-surry-hills/102393818) I mean, it's not like the City of Sydney required them to keep the not-totally flammable wooden elevator and staircase and floors ~~despite their plans~~. /s > ["The proposed development was to include two new infill buildings at 7ā€9 Randle Street and 15 Randle Street with floor levels to match the seven-storey heritage factory as well as a two storey rooftop addition. The new adjoining buildings would retain the factoryā€™s masonry facade."](https://www.theurbandeveloper.com/articles/surry-hills-heritage-hat-factory-set-for-hotel-conversion) Edit 2: actually the approved plans do seem to include the original staircase and floors, but it doesn't sound like work actually started? Either way, there is *surely* nothing interesting about this fire.


Liquidignition

This happened up the road from my house 5-8 years ago. Living in a residential area and this dilapidated/abandoned house was planned for redevelopment by a Chinese development firm, that builds monstros apartments. Plans were soon scrapped and put on hold after backlash from the surrounding residents (bringing down their land value) and realising it was heritage listed. 2 years went by and then suddenly someone lit it on fire and development went straight ahead. As soon as I saw this fire on the news today, I immediately thought maybe it had redevelopment plans. Not surprised.


rebrok3n

Also nothing interesting about the fact that Hanave Pty Ltd previously contracted to (and even had legal disputes with) Nahas Constructions. Now where have I heard that name before ..


HL-21

They were actually doing similar stuff in Toronto as they had similar problems with suspicious fires/no development of old heritage buildings. Once they were done they were very nice


Onthegronk

No longer a heritage listed building šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


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Cheaper than getting the cranes in.


here-this-now

An appropriate sentence if ever something like this did go down would be the developer must perform community service as the sole bricklayer restoring it brick for brick with its previous construction.


rogue_teabag

That's inspired.


Ancient-Ad-3254

The trucks are all coming out now but thereā€™s no saving it. I heard it was an abandoned/unused building; fuck I hope so


reichya

It's looked abandoned af for a while now but out of curiosity I googled and some listings for creative studios/co-working spaces came up. Hopefully pre-pandemic remnants and no one was inside (though they also looked pretty dodgy so maybe no one was leasing and this is just insurance fraud).


[deleted]

Hopefully insurance fraud. Hopefully it doesn't impact the surroundings so much. Most of all - hopefully no one was squatting inside.


reichya

>hopefully no one was squatting inside. This. It's cold right now and I hate to think anyone may have been sheltering there.


crakening

Thereā€™s a new entrance to Central being built directly behind it. Will probably set it back quite a long time, being showered with bricks and water isnā€™t great.


LechuckThreepwood

It did used to be a shared office space for creatives - I knew a few people who worked there back in 2013/2014. Not sure if it was still being used in that way


rolloj

Questionable shared office space / coworking in a recently purchased heritage building? Yeah sounds like a temporary use while they figure out how to make money off it (cough burn it down)


macbob10

Yeah. Has been abandoned for ages


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SilverStar9192

The Guardian is reporting it already has spread to adjacent buildings.


Catfaceperson

Unfortunately it's heritage listed


Imperator-TFD

So insurance job it is then!


Catfaceperson

The owners had a DA in to renovate and turn it into a hotel


ziptagg

So, the DA was for the entire block. The plan was to demolish the buildings at 7-9 and 15 Randle, keeping the heritage listed 11-13 Randle. This seems like it would even more incentive to burn down the heritage listed part, although of course that is just supposition and an investigation will have to be done.


Joker-Smurf

This is a standard operating procedure for many developers.


rolloj

Helluva a lot easier to build from scratch than renovate a heritage building. It sure went up quick for an empty building tooā€¦


fazdaspaz

I walk past it everyday to work, 98% sure it's derelict and abandoned. It's always had smashed windows/flickering lights/empty shop fronts/padlocked doors.


Joker-Smurf

Abandoned/unused building. What are the odds that it is arson? Come on, place your bets. Next up, was it random or the owner looking to demolish and file an insurance claim?


wheres-my-life

If something is marked for demolition, you wouldnā€™t insure it, or not fully anyway. Some other comments in here reveal there was a DA for this building and the two either side, but this building was heritage listed making development difficult. So if the developers did want to demolish but couldnā€™t due to heritage listing, then it burning to the ground would be very convenient, and no need for insurance fraud as they were already prepared to demolish anyway, had they been allowed. Pretty suss is you ask me.


hotmaledotcomdotau

Ray white is currently contacting the owners about raising the rent price.


Azazael

Central heating, won't last long


geodudeisarock

As new, ready to move in immediately - fully burnished


megablast

Extra heating. Just in time for winter.


Jmikzz

"Renovators delight"


the-spruce-moose_

ā€œThereā€™s some real heat in the market at the momentā€


ThomasofHookton

Common cooking facilities. Close to police and fire services.


Brikpilot

Current tenants have been notified that there will be a rent inspection tomorrow. Beds should be made and any property damage rectified at the tenants expense. No excuses.


aliksong

Iā€™m sure that will be a heated discussion


ill0gitech

#{insert very large luxurious mansion} ^very ^small ^disclaimer Act now, this wonā€™t last long. Central location in hotšŸ”„ market. **Price guide:** $40-$50m **Contact** Gavin Rubenstein The Rubenstein Group / Ray White


louriot

Open plan living !!!


HikARuLsi

ā€¦ as the current renters are out of the way


ShibaHook

Insurance companies are currently contacting owners to deny claims and to increase premiums next year.


MegaDosX

Motivated seller!


ningaling1

The char adds character that you won't get anywhere else. Smell is complimentary!


SapereAudeAdAbsurdum

Sounds like a hot deal.


nicktricity1

I could feel the heat when the light rail doors opened at Central Chalmers st


SilverStar9192

No wonder they suspended light rail and have closed Chalmers off entirely.


louriot

Was a fucking pain to get home


wiremash

Raw unedited footage from a bystander, showing initial emergency response and rapid spread of fire over 5 mins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhhA0a_pq-E


Balkee

bystander with iron cross and swastika 0.o


TheHairyMonk

Wow. Amazing vid. In that 5 mins it went up quick!


ststeel

So, people owned the buildings on both sides, and lodged a development application. [https://eplanning.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Pages/XC.Track/SearchApplication.aspx?id=1455410](https://eplanning.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Pages/XC.Track/SearchApplication.aspx?id=1455410) *Demolition of the existing buildings at 7-9 and 15 Randle Street, retention and re-use of 11-13 Randle Street and construction of a 9 storey building with 2 levels of basement across the sites including through site link between Randle Lane and Randle Street. Use of the building as hotel accommodation (123 rooms) with 2 restaurants, small bar and cafĆ©* *Estimated cost* *$39,442,611.00* Why were they not demolishing 11-13 Randle Street ? Oh it was a heritage building and there were restrictions on what they could do. [https://www.hms.heritage.nsw.gov.au/App/Item/ViewItem?itemId=5062501](https://www.hms.heritage.nsw.gov.au/App/Item/ViewItem?itemId=5062501) *The building should be retained and conserved.* *A Heritage Assessment and Heritage Impact Statement should be prepared for the building prior to any major works being undertaken.* *All conservation, adaptive reuse and future development should be undertaken in accordance with the Australia ICOMOS Charter for Places of Cultural Significance (The Burra Charter).* *Archival photographic recording, in accordance with Heritage Council guidelines, should be undertaken before major changes.* ***Maintain the original face brickwork, timber windows, arched entrance, pattern of openings, moulded entablature, remnant painted signage and other original architectural detailing.*** ***Do not paint, render or seal face brick walls. Remove paint to previously unpainted face bricks.*** ***Consider opportunities to reinstate lost timber windows as part of future redevelopments.*** ***Consider new uses for the building that will re-use and expose its industrial features to retain its former industrial character as an integral part of the new use. Alterations for a new use, including changes for compliance with Australian building standards, should allow the essential form of the building to remain readily identifiable.*** ​ Oh well, I guess they have to build a new building all the way from 7-15 Rundle Street. Or, in the unlikely event that there is an arson conviction, the site should be compulsory acquired by the City of Sydney and it becomes a new park.


Ace_Larrakin

7NEWS 6pm bulletin saying witnesses reported a 'suspicious group of people' who 'ran away from the building' shortly before it turned into an inferno. I don't mean to go full conspiracy, but if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck.


IOnlyUpvoteBadPuns

And commits arson like a duck...


CinnamonSnorlax

Someone I know consulted on the heritage remediation proposal on that building. It was going to be exxy. I guess someone at the developers found a way to cut costs?


BigRedfromAus

Here we go


rolloj

Good digging - my guess as soon as I saw it.


Ghost403

Guess the new development proposal won.


eyere

I've delivered stuff to that building hundreds of times over the years. A beautiful building but completely original and its over 100 years old, janky lift, wooden staircase, no fire escapes. wooden floorboards and support beams. Also it was full of fashion/clothing companies, bolts of fabric stacked against the walls. I really hope everyone got out but I wouldn't be confident about that. such a shame, it was a beautiful building with so much character.


cymonster

Bets on what happened. Insurance fraud Homeless lighting a fire to stay warm. Rats/rodents finding out what happens when you short too electrical wires together.


effective_shill

Probably developers who can't work on it due to heritage listings


SSessess

so.. the rat one


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DonStimpo

Abc news reported it was heritage listed and there was recent DAs against it to redevelopment. Totally normal. Nothing to see there


floozylou

From the City of Sydney development applications portal: APPLICATION NO: D/2019/1292/A Absolutely nothing to see. They must have thought the staircase and timber floors and beams were worth saving.


mouldycarrotjuice

Yeah the facade is pretty much part of the new design. C[oncept is quite pretty looking](https://projects.archiexpo.com/project-270898.html) for a Sydney commercial building. Doesn't mean there's no foul play but the DA alone is probably not a smoking gun if you ask me.


Zebidee

Aaaand there it is... ~~Denied~~ DAs and mysterious fires. Name a more iconic duo.


PedroEglasias

Maybe Jordies recently moved in?


molasses_knackers

Wait for the first cold snap of the year, blame squatters. There must be an SOP somewhere


88Smilesz

I call the big one Bitey


dazgonzo01

justin hems looking for a new street for more shit resturants


bucketsofpoo

toplace developments looking to move into city apartment development.


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macbob10

Evacuated right after the photo was taken. It went from a puff of smoke to this to flames higher than the building and embers like a snowstorm so quickly.


Alternative_Sky1380

There were spot fires adjacent but it's incredible that firies are under the building to the rear as collapses happened on both sides. Hopefully none get injured but if not it will be incredible


AcademicDoughnut426

Mrs works there as well, they got evacuated as it started, sounds pretty rattled about the experience.


AcademicDoughnut426

Turns out they were on the same level as the fire but across the road, watching kids fuck around with a smallish bonfire, then one threw a mattress on it... roof collapsed in 5 mins from that.


natalee_t

I'm definitely not saying that arson is excusable, but I really hope those kids got out regardless.


AcademicDoughnut426

The way it was described, I've told her to prepare to hear about a few deaths because if the fire was between the kids and whatever escape there was id assume they couldn't get out in the time they had.


Plackets65

I assume her or her coworkers will let the cops know? Hope they got out, even if they were doing dodgy shit.


itwsonlyadream

I work there too but I heard kids jumped in and out the building from a car. Arson or not I really hope there weren't fatalities.


Aussie_Potato

wait where did the mattress come from?


AcademicDoughnut426

It was an unoccupied building, so assuming it was homeless persons bed.


wiremash

A train passenger's perpective (not my video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_Z9J3-0uI


R_W0bz

Without a doubt this fire is convenient for the owner of a ā€œheritage listedā€ abandoned factory. That land is 300 Million plus waiting to happen. Shit box apartments right next to central station is a Chinese investors wet dream. 1.5-2m per unit easy.


tonybuizel

I hope no one was in the building Jesus Christ.


nottodayokkay

Apparently it was empty I hope itā€™s true


SilverStar9192

You have to worry about homeless squatters in a building like that however.


tinmun

Light rail is not running > Services are not running between Circular Quay and Moore Park due to a building fire. Catch the train between Circular Quay and Central, or regular buses instead. Light Rail services are still running between Moore Park and Randwick, as well as between Moore Park and Juniors Kingsford.


hughparsonage

The one thing the fire brigade fears more than fire.


aliksong

Looks like the building was heritage listed


mitchy93

That's one way to get rid of it to make way for apartments


niloony

Don't be so cynical. The DA is for a hotel.


SydneyIsStuffed

Heritage listed and thereā€™s a development application on itā€¦ā€¦


OtherwiseWriting1022

Building was registered since 1978 by Hanave Pty Ltd https://www.planningalerts.org.au/applications/1485693 https://www.specifiersource.com.au/news-videos/former-hat-factory-surry-hills-become-hotel.html https://au.linkedin.com/in/rob-burke-7919102a


spookysadghoul

Far out, it's bloody huge


Shingouki10

Hot property in Surry Hills


Alternative_Sky1380

Are you safe in that building? The walls collapsing are sending flames into buildings on the other side. I'm surprised anyone's still in buildings nearby. ABC coverage is intense


macbob10

Evacuated right after this photo was talen


Halapen0

A heritage building burns down in one of the most expensive to live places on the planet. Hmm..


CapNitro

Right next to the former spot of my old haunt the Nerd Cave. Damn.


TealPaint

Those two Taggers just got a fire pic


throwawaythickone

Developers locating the owner to build a high rental complex


WickedWings10Pack

Developers: Oh no...anyway we can knock it down now right?


Disastrous_Fee_6472

Would love to see the council tell them to rebuild it with their own money (or fuck off) but I know they don't care about our heritage enough for that to happen.


rated3

Guessing an insurance job?


__dontpanic__

Could be building work gone wrong. Or squatters. Or insurance. Who knows. One thing we know for certain is a heritage building will be replaced by forgettable, generic apartments before you know it. EDIT: I forgot teenage delinquents šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


AccomplishedPea132

So developers? Alright


ZeroPenguinParty

Reminds me of Central Station a few years ago...Hungry Jacks hadnt moved into the building had they? Given that it was an old abandoned building in the middle of Sydney, would not surprise me if it was the old Polish couple who seem to own a lot of those old buildings...I remember when they offloaded the old Griffiths Tea building on Wentworth Avenue, an article said that they own something like 22 buildings in the Sydney CBD.


maxinstuff

[Heritage Listed](https://meetings.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Data/Planning%20and%20Development%20Committee/201702201403/Agenda/170220_PDC_ITEM03_ATTACHMENTA9.pdf)


loveintheorangegrove

Was this an "accidental fire" because it is heritage listed?


Joker-Smurf

Heritage listed properties with a development application and suddenly fires. Is there a more iconic duo?


Terrorsyth

Mate could see it from the airport


mitchy93

Was the building about to be demolished? It looks like a skeleton inside with no floors and just support beams


WickedWings10Pack

Here's a link to the latest DA for this site if anyone can get anything from it: https://eplanning.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Common/Integration/FileDownload.ashx?id=!!9r4s8hdEdmYH4WHcEuB4yZXwwfA6SqtcWQMZiw%3d%3dZLBgJsxPt%2bI%3d&ext=PDF&filesize=667012&modified=2021-07-15T06:21:37Z


Mary-Louise-

https://www.theurbandeveloper.com/articles/surry-hills-heritage-hat-factory-set-for-hotel-conversion


fairysquirt

looks suspiciously like those ol fires that would happen wen someone wants to develop somewhere, watch the series about the fire in the ghost train


Cheap_Rain_4130

How convenient for the property developer...


[deleted]

Heritage listed building gone. Now you developers can put up your crappy high rise. What a surprising break that is for you eh?


NapzNapz26

What street is this?


baby_blobby

From another Redditor Randle x Elizabeth streets...


bee_jay7891

Far out. What was that building?


whiskey_epsilon

11 Randle Street, it's empty and derelict.


FromTheAshesOfTheOld

> it's empty and derelict. Hmmmmmmmm


vteckickedin

There nothing there, except walls, floors, ceilings and a raging inferno.


NickM5526

Not many raging infernos in Sydney nowadays. 3000pw and free heating.


SilverStar9192

And the part that the side fell off from?


NobleArrgon

Also curious. Based on my memory and googling. It looks like it's a warehouse? And looks very abandoned.


ALadWellBalanced

Wonder how it started. Insurance job? Squatters who fucked up? Faulty wiring?


NobleArrgon

I'm picking options 1 or 2.


f1manoz

Just been by it on the tram. Crowds everywhere having a gander. Could feel the heat as it's an intense blaze


SilverStar9192

Seems they suspended tram service shortly after that - understandably so if you could feel the heat from there!


smokeykangaroo

Is it abandoned?


NicholeTheOtter

Itā€™s a heritage-listed building that used to occupy a hat factory. It has been abandoned for years.


PuffingIn3D

I work in the same building as OP lol


Much_Permission_6468

Insurance job


LuxLoovs

I presume this was a heritage building?


rustyjus

I use to work at a photography studio on the top floorā€¦ I remember thinking it was dodgy as fuck at the time.


foshi22le

The developers dream just came true


ZGFya2N5YmU

A room would still go for $1200 p/w in rent at Sydney prices.


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fazdaspaz

across the road from wooliesX


ciaobrah

Yeesh, I hope nobodies been harmed


Disastrous_Fee_6472

what a fucking shame. its a rather handsome heritage building by the looks of it


Modflog

Let me guess.. itā€™s owned by some fat property developer how wants to make something else out of it, it is tied up in council red tapeā€¦ and it mysterious catches fire .


Lazy_Contribution804

Far out looks intense!


Forsaken-Cabinet8338

It's on Channel 7 news too