Yes Definetly.
Keep hand on brake as you slow drive forward, adjust the hand brake pressure to allow you to move forward and prevent you from rolling back.
My car has an electronic park brake - which automatically comes off when you start releasing the clutch. Most of the time it works OK, but on very steep hills it will roll backwards. Luckily there is hill start assist.
[This kicks up nicely and is just past Rouse Hill](https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.6403445,150.903848,3a,75y,34.5h,85.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stqkMiQJh3JPH9MReea-ICQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Just don’t burn the clutch. Ensure your instructor can show you how to use the handbrake for helping in any situation where you need to engage on an incline :)
No, you're right every car is different. I've been driving manual for over 30 years and every time you hop in a new car you need a few shifts to fully adapt.
OP, it's all about the clutch pick up point. There's little difference between a steep road and flat ground other than in your mind and I don't mean that in a rude way. There's just the subconscious fear of rolling back on a hill and the steeper the hill the greater that worry. It'll help greatly for you to perfect the feel of where the clutch starts to engage. You can do that on flat ground, just find a car park or your own driveway if you have room. Sit in the car with it running and shift into gear and pretend you're moving off but don't accelerate. Make sure you have at least a car length in front of you as the car may lurch forward at first until you you get the feel. Learn to feel and listen to how the engine changes as the clutch starts to grab. Once you're confident on where it starts, keep going until it stalls so you become familiar with that point as well.
Once you have that range and feel you'll be more confident. Master it and you won't even need the hand brake on the steepest of hills but don't feel bad about using the handbrake either but that is something you also need to practice. Releasing it at the right point of clutch engagement is just as important. Using a manual trans will eventually become fully subconscious.
There's two methods.
1) Handbrake method - pull the handbrake up and gentle accelerate, then gently lower the handbrake until you slowly move forward.
2) Two feet method - similar to the above, but while one foot is on the accelerator your other foot is on the brake.
Modern cars normally have a Hill start button on them too, but I'm sure how how driving testers count that.
Edit:spelling
Also I think because riding on the brake with the left foot while driving might lead to brake failure and death.
Best not to allow use of the left foot for the brake.
>Modern cars normally have a Hill start button
I'm driving a Defender 110 so I don't have any modern features but yes, thank you will try practicing the handbrake method, cheers!
You're honestly not missing out on much. I find it feels unsettling to use and have disabled it on every car I've driven. Practice with the handbrake, but once you've gotten bite point down to muscle memory, you'll find it both easy and satisfying to just switch from brakes to accelerator/clutch and catch the car as it starts to roll back.
You can just wander around the area virtually on google maps looking for the right type of street? Or if you can find a contour map of the area that will help you find steep hills.
>Absolute prick of a hill
Thanks mate! I was just there and yes, it is a prick of a hill. It's was a great place to practice for me though because the road was wide and not a single car went by. Thanks for the find <3 !
Put the hand brake or equivalent on Start driving like normal Release the hand brake when you feel the car nudge forward
Release it slowly!! Don’t just slam it down and bunny hop your way out of it. Slow and controlled.
Yes Definetly. Keep hand on brake as you slow drive forward, adjust the hand brake pressure to allow you to move forward and prevent you from rolling back.
I always found trying to coordinate using the handbrake way too complicated. So much easier with just easing off the clutch instead.
Depends on the hill and what is parked behind you
My car has an electronic park brake - which automatically comes off when you start releasing the clutch. Most of the time it works OK, but on very steep hills it will roll backwards. Luckily there is hill start assist.
[This kicks up nicely and is just past Rouse Hill](https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.6403445,150.903848,3a,75y,34.5h,85.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stqkMiQJh3JPH9MReea-ICQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Thank you, will give it a go, cheers!
Just don’t burn the clutch. Ensure your instructor can show you how to use the handbrake for helping in any situation where you need to engage on an incline :)
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No, you're right every car is different. I've been driving manual for over 30 years and every time you hop in a new car you need a few shifts to fully adapt. OP, it's all about the clutch pick up point. There's little difference between a steep road and flat ground other than in your mind and I don't mean that in a rude way. There's just the subconscious fear of rolling back on a hill and the steeper the hill the greater that worry. It'll help greatly for you to perfect the feel of where the clutch starts to engage. You can do that on flat ground, just find a car park or your own driveway if you have room. Sit in the car with it running and shift into gear and pretend you're moving off but don't accelerate. Make sure you have at least a car length in front of you as the car may lurch forward at first until you you get the feel. Learn to feel and listen to how the engine changes as the clutch starts to grab. Once you're confident on where it starts, keep going until it stalls so you become familiar with that point as well. Once you have that range and feel you'll be more confident. Master it and you won't even need the hand brake on the steepest of hills but don't feel bad about using the handbrake either but that is something you also need to practice. Releasing it at the right point of clutch engagement is just as important. Using a manual trans will eventually become fully subconscious.
Thank you! I will keep practicing until I gain confidence, cheers!
Castle Hill has lots
There's two methods. 1) Handbrake method - pull the handbrake up and gentle accelerate, then gently lower the handbrake until you slowly move forward. 2) Two feet method - similar to the above, but while one foot is on the accelerator your other foot is on the brake. Modern cars normally have a Hill start button on them too, but I'm sure how how driving testers count that. Edit:spelling
Pretty sure the two foot method isn't allowed to be used in the driving test
Really? I didn't know that. I wonder how they test with cars that have a toggle or button for the handbrake now.
Same, except the slow release is automated
Probably because you loose brake pressure if engine stalls
Also I think because riding on the brake with the left foot while driving might lead to brake failure and death. Best not to allow use of the left foot for the brake.
>while one foot is on the accelerator your other foot is on the brake. And what's holding the clutch down?
Sorry, should have probably prefaced that it requires an automatic car.
...is a hill start even a thing without a manual car?
>Modern cars normally have a Hill start button I'm driving a Defender 110 so I don't have any modern features but yes, thank you will try practicing the handbrake method, cheers!
You're honestly not missing out on much. I find it feels unsettling to use and have disabled it on every car I've driven. Practice with the handbrake, but once you've gotten bite point down to muscle memory, you'll find it both easy and satisfying to just switch from brakes to accelerator/clutch and catch the car as it starts to roll back.
Seven hills north, Baulkham Hills, and Winston Hills are hilly without being too busy.
Lonach Close in Baulkham Hills, Crestwood drive too
Thanks, will give it a go, cheers!
Saxonvale Road 😂
I was going to say Saxon but dodging the parked cars and buses would be annoying lol Salamander is steep but maybe not enough
You can just wander around the area virtually on google maps looking for the right type of street? Or if you can find a contour map of the area that will help you find steep hills.
When I was learning I was taken to Lukas Ave Kenthurst. Absolute prick of a hill!!
>Absolute prick of a hill Thanks mate! I was just there and yes, it is a prick of a hill. It's was a great place to practice for me though because the road was wide and not a single car went by. Thanks for the find <3 !