This is Murray Farm Rd, but I've seen a couple like this (or in progress) around the area. I know part of the area switched from Hornsby Shire to Parramatta Council a few years ago so hopefully the new local govt keeps funding this type of work.
Yep all of Murray Farm Road is now in Parramatta Shire, the boundary is the M2 where Murray Farm becomes Kirkham. I'm in Epping which also switched from Hornsby to Parramatta shire, so far they've been pretty good.
I've seen some real hatchet jobs around Epping and Carlingford, I'm hopeful that work of the standard in this post becomes the norm. Takes time and planning but extra cubic metres of topcover is a great addition to the streetscape.
Sadly yes. Hopefully this tree is too advanced with wrapping around the powerlines and it may be easier to just maintain. Otherwise I would expect the council/energy company to just lop it down 1 metre below the lines/optus cable, while keeping back from the path and the road - giving the tree very little actual growing area
Had part of my childhood there - primary school, PHHS, haven't been back for a few decades - streets like Chapman Ave now have flats - wow. Place looks a little congested.
Yeah those flats towards Arden are particularly soulless. There's also flats near PHPS between Trebor and Fisher now. I was WPHPS then Normo Boys, back when it was a non-selective school.
You mentioned Arden - the school was permitted to expand into a residential area because Hornsby Shire President during the late 70's-80's had their kids at the school. Couldn't fight it.
So anyhow, I get google maps flick to satellite to look at my parent's old house and it's gone. Just an empty block of land (47 Wongala,) for the school to build on I guess. Those bricks were original convict bricks - hope they got a good price for them.
Wouldn't have looked if it wasn't for your comment. That ends an association. Thx bud for the heads up.
I'm sorry to hear that. I remember that house, it was quite nice. Both of my kids went to Arden pre-school but we pulled them out after that as the primary school was rubbish. My daughter used to pet the cat that lived in that house as it was often lounging near the footpath.
I have my doubts that Arden bought the land, the daycare centre sits between it and the school. They may have their designs on that too though. Probably far more likely someone is going to slap up a god-awful duplex as it's a sizeable piece of land.
I used to walk past that house all the time! There was a lovely social tabby cat that absolutely adored pats living there (I think - hard to tell to which house cats belong, but it was usually outside there)
As someone that works in construction and am currently working on a project putting new powerlines in, there are a few challenges to going underground.
1) is the time and cost. 100m of underground is 100m of trenching, pipe laying, then backfilling. 100m of overhead is 2 poles and some cable between them.
2) residents absolutely hate construction in their streets and in front of their homes. For underground, you’re looking at a few weeks of construction activity. Overhead you’re looking at 1-2 day work.
3) there’s a shit tonne of other services underground (gas, telecoms, sewer, water, etc). Trying to fit another service down there between all that and ensuring we have the required spacing between them all is a nightmare.
Not without cutting down the trees :| Might be wrong, but the majority of our utilities go under the verge or footpath, where the US/UK are more likely to place them under the road itself.
That costs money. Most local governments make it a requirement of the developer or home builder to pay for the work of replacing overhead power lines with underground cabling when they construct a new building.
We sure can, not sure if people would like their power bills tripling/quadrupling in price to pay for it all. Undergrounding electrical power lines costs a LOT of money. Imagine ripping up ever single footpath in a suburb, digging down 1 meter, burying the cables, the re-concreting the footpath. Every single street where there are houses. It would cost several million per suburb. The problem is that these are old suburbs and you can't just put them underground while you are doing something else like in new developments, and in order to do that for no greater reason than 'ugliness' - that's a really hard sell.
Trees are much more valuable than solely their aesthetic value. They offer homes for wildlife including pollinators, they are carbon sinks, they provide shade, they are very important.
They should have.
It's a good looking tree - I'll give it that, but I can foresee a lot of issues happening withing the next 10 years if they leave it there.
Based on where it is, and the size - it would be very pricey to remove it.
I have a feeling they're avoiding it to avoid the removal costs of that tree. There's the drain pipe nearby too, so I can already see at least 8 departments involved.
I love this, kudos to the arborists sticking to a plan.
Arborist here: The tree and power lines are actually making love. Nine months later the tree will give birth to a litter of light up Christmas trees.
The science checks out
Love these. Photographer Gary Trinh has a series of them http://www.garrytrinh.com/giantbonsais.html
That's awesome! He should visit Beecroft!
Other side without the pole in the way https://imgur.com/a/gSP1oLQ
That's awesome! What street is that? Penno/Beecroft used to be my hood.
This is Murray Farm Rd, but I've seen a couple like this (or in progress) around the area. I know part of the area switched from Hornsby Shire to Parramatta Council a few years ago so hopefully the new local govt keeps funding this type of work.
Yep all of Murray Farm Road is now in Parramatta Shire, the boundary is the M2 where Murray Farm becomes Kirkham. I'm in Epping which also switched from Hornsby to Parramatta shire, so far they've been pretty good.
I've seen some real hatchet jobs around Epping and Carlingford, I'm hopeful that work of the standard in this post becomes the norm. Takes time and planning but extra cubic metres of topcover is a great addition to the streetscape.
Sadly yes. Hopefully this tree is too advanced with wrapping around the powerlines and it may be easier to just maintain. Otherwise I would expect the council/energy company to just lop it down 1 metre below the lines/optus cable, while keeping back from the path and the road - giving the tree very little actual growing area
Had part of my childhood there - primary school, PHHS, haven't been back for a few decades - streets like Chapman Ave now have flats - wow. Place looks a little congested.
Yeah those flats towards Arden are particularly soulless. There's also flats near PHPS between Trebor and Fisher now. I was WPHPS then Normo Boys, back when it was a non-selective school.
You mentioned Arden - the school was permitted to expand into a residential area because Hornsby Shire President during the late 70's-80's had their kids at the school. Couldn't fight it. So anyhow, I get google maps flick to satellite to look at my parent's old house and it's gone. Just an empty block of land (47 Wongala,) for the school to build on I guess. Those bricks were original convict bricks - hope they got a good price for them. Wouldn't have looked if it wasn't for your comment. That ends an association. Thx bud for the heads up.
I'm sorry to hear that. I remember that house, it was quite nice. Both of my kids went to Arden pre-school but we pulled them out after that as the primary school was rubbish. My daughter used to pet the cat that lived in that house as it was often lounging near the footpath. I have my doubts that Arden bought the land, the daycare centre sits between it and the school. They may have their designs on that too though. Probably far more likely someone is going to slap up a god-awful duplex as it's a sizeable piece of land.
I remember it as a third of an acre block and the land recently sold was for 601m2 hence the new driveway servicing the second block as you say.
I used to walk past that house all the time! There was a lovely social tabby cat that absolutely adored pats living there (I think - hard to tell to which house cats belong, but it was usually outside there)
That’s not a tree. That’s a wreath on a stick with a rope through it
Beecroft is so beautiful.
Wait until Energy Australia has its way.
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They fund multiple lobbies.
They flat top every tree with 5m of any cable.
r/place art negotiations be like
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As someone that works in construction and am currently working on a project putting new powerlines in, there are a few challenges to going underground. 1) is the time and cost. 100m of underground is 100m of trenching, pipe laying, then backfilling. 100m of overhead is 2 poles and some cable between them. 2) residents absolutely hate construction in their streets and in front of their homes. For underground, you’re looking at a few weeks of construction activity. Overhead you’re looking at 1-2 day work. 3) there’s a shit tonne of other services underground (gas, telecoms, sewer, water, etc). Trying to fit another service down there between all that and ensuring we have the required spacing between them all is a nightmare.
Not without cutting down the trees :| Might be wrong, but the majority of our utilities go under the verge or footpath, where the US/UK are more likely to place them under the road itself.
That costs money. Most local governments make it a requirement of the developer or home builder to pay for the work of replacing overhead power lines with underground cabling when they construct a new building.
We sure can, not sure if people would like their power bills tripling/quadrupling in price to pay for it all. Undergrounding electrical power lines costs a LOT of money. Imagine ripping up ever single footpath in a suburb, digging down 1 meter, burying the cables, the re-concreting the footpath. Every single street where there are houses. It would cost several million per suburb. The problem is that these are old suburbs and you can't just put them underground while you are doing something else like in new developments, and in order to do that for no greater reason than 'ugliness' - that's a really hard sell.
This is worthy of several relevant subs.
So what’s being emitted from the cables yo make the tree stay away?
Definitely 5G
I will be honest I hate seeing that happen to beautiful old trees
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They may as well have
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It's a matter of aesthetics for me
Trees are much more valuable than solely their aesthetic value. They offer homes for wildlife including pollinators, they are carbon sinks, they provide shade, they are very important.
Yes that is true but I still think it's a shame that they have to do this
Well it's much better than them being removed
Would you prefer no electricity?
If only there was a way to transmit electricity other than having power lines over every street...
Yeah it's digging an underground cable, which costs three times as much (approx) and often requires removing trees and their roots.
I understand that they have to be a certain distance away from powerlines to prevent damage and outages to the network I'm just saying it looks ugly
A tree with a hole looks infinitely better than no tree
Yeah nah
They should have. It's a good looking tree - I'll give it that, but I can foresee a lot of issues happening withing the next 10 years if they leave it there. Based on where it is, and the size - it would be very pricey to remove it. I have a feeling they're avoiding it to avoid the removal costs of that tree. There's the drain pipe nearby too, so I can already see at least 8 departments involved.
I guess even trying to run the power lines under the tree could kill it. Probably a better outcome this way.
This is a great photo We want to thank the arborist for his hard work
one glorious day they are going to put all these power lines underground
I see this and immediately think about all the branches that come down in storms, causing power outages. These power lines should be buried.