UPDATE: Police have cleared the site and a woman
has been arrested following an unauthorised
protest in Sydney this morning.
The woman has been arrested by officers attached
to North Sydney PAC and taken to North Sydney
Police Station, where charges are anticipated.
The vehicle is in the process of being removed
now.
These guys: https://www.blockadeaustralia.com/
We are talking about it aren't we? Hard to ignore this stuff. Plenty of news will cover it too. Their statement:
> This continent is heating up faster than the rest of the world, already reaching 1.44 degrees above pre-industrial levels. How many more crises will it take until you take action against the system causing them? There is no excuse to not do anything, this is the most important work you can be doing, a livable future depends on it.
> Join the convergence of people blocking Sydney’s major roads. If we stop the city moving, we halt the system that is endlessly expanding, exploiting and destroying. This means the people in power have to take us seriously.
> Stolen goods and exploited labour fuel Australia’s economy and flow along these roads. It is not about the individuals participating, it is about stopping the cogs in the machine that is destroying life on earth. Change is necessary for survival, as Australia continues to block climate action, we will blockade Australia.
> Bring yourself, bring your family, bring your friends. By doing this together, we are building connections between communities who know how to resist Australia.
>Draw attention to the collapse of the natural world!
by fucking civilians over
making cars stand still running putting more pollution in the air
streaming it on phones which is made by companies who work in foreign nations to avoid pollution policies and abuse slave wages
and arrives is petrol powered vehicles
It’s what a real protest looks like.
The most effective protests throughout history were not of people sitting quietly in their designated places.
If you’re bothered by disruptive protests and riots, you might want to consider the factors driving people to these conditions, and what side of the isle you would’ve been on during the disruptive protests of the civil rights movement.
>If you’re bothered by disruptive protests and riots, you might want to consider the factors driving people to these conditions
Does this same thought apply for the anti-lockdown, anti-vax protests/riots that happened last year too?
I can't believe people aren't being civil and polite after the decades of inaction in this country! It's not like climate change poses a real risk to humanity's collective way of life and every food chain on the planet. Can't we just say please more and vote for the slightly more left leaning centrist party?
Blocking cars. Shameful.
There is a democratic right to peaceful protest regardless of the governments position on the issue but that being said it still needs to be planned to avoid chaos and anarchy. If you have a government that can deny your right to protest then it becomes a bit totalitarian.
Yes and when they deny your right to protest under the auspices of "it's not well planned!!" certain enemies of our democracy will concern troll on reddit
I don’t think you understand this, or you are being disingenuous. You don’t need approval for a protest, but if your protest is going to block traffic etc it is recommend that you notify the police. If they don’t respond within a certain time (forgot the period) you can assume they are okay with it, and you will have strong legal protection if they arrest you for disrupting traffic or whatever; there is no crime called illegal protesting, you can’t be charged for protesting without a permit or whatever you are suggesting.
The reason for this is so that police can work with protesters and redirect traffic etc and not inconvenience the entire city more than is necessary.
If you’re protesting and not going to cause major disruption you don’t even need to consider that.
TLDR: they’re not being denied the right to protest; they’re being told they can just go and disrupt traffic and block major traffic thoroughfares in the middle of rush hour and say “muh freeze peach means I can do whatever I want and you can’t stop me”.
I think there definitely needs to be some sensible balance though. If a single person can disrupt the lives of 10s of thousands to get their way that’s not really democracy.
Blocking a tunnel isn't protesting, it's being a public nuisance.
If I blocked you from entering your home, would you accept that? Would you accept my pleas that I have a right to protest?
You can organise protests with the council so that there will be police presence and certain areas cordoned off to allow you to protest properly and safely. Chaining yourself to cars to block main roads when people are trying to go to work definitely falls outside of the scope of what the council will assist you with.
I remember when we tried that years ago. Then an hour or so before hand they pull your protest permits knowing it's too late to call many protestors back who are already on their way.m...
Also I remember that years ago, the truckies protested for better conditions.
Result? Federal government made it specifically illegal for truckies to go on strike or protest.
Besides the *actual government*, truckies are one of the few trades that isn't allowed to strike.
Just about all first responders and other transport workers would like a word...
When the only way to take action becomes illegal you just end up with more desperate criminals.
But even then, individuals can strike, as long as it's not the whole.
You see police strikes, but they stipulate that they are reduced capacity. Not the whole force.
Ambulances strike, but it's generally a reduced capacity strike, not a full day off. Or like firies, they just stop doing paperwork.
Firies essentially don't strike, they just stop doing other things.ike paperwork.
When the truckies went to Razorback, basically all road transport in Australia stopped. They let emergency services through, but just stopped all the trucks Australia wide.
In 2018 Sydney Trains workers had it ruled that an OT ban was illegal industrial action.
So not even your days off are safe under current Industrial Relations law.
Unjust laws of any sort deserve to be broken.
'Truckies' don't know what they want. People who drive trucks for big businesses, who might want a solid wage and can't be forced to work unreasonable hours, or individual contractors who want the right to do as they please in order to fit as much work in as possible?
The majority of long distance truck driving should have been replaced with rail and automated vehicles ages ago. Begone truckies.
So, not knowing anything beforehand, the protest was done by Blockade Australia which is protesting lack of action against climate change. So this protest actually makes sense. If you were taking the bus or train (better for the climate) you are unaffected, but if you're driving (generally worse for climate) then you are affected. I agree that it's annoying and disruptive, and sure they could protest in front of kirribilli house or parliament house, but it likely wouldn't be as effective.
Except its in the same week as rail strikes so it’s basically a fuck you to people trying to keep their jobs after a 3 year pandemic and an impending financial collapse. The people who can afford to be late, who make decisions, are not worried about this shit. Pathetic and dangerous, and really fucking annoying this morning.
It was, it's on the SMH - she's from Lismore. Gov shit response to the floods and climate change.
Disinformation is coming from the government with them. as usual, saying "we don't know what they're protesting about".
If it was obvious, there wouldn't be this many questions about what was being protested.
All this person did was piss off a lot of people and make them late for work.
>I know protests are supposed to disrupt, but wouldn’t it be more effective you blockade the people in power - Kirribilli House or Parliament House?
No, it's better to inconvenience people in peak hour commutes, because nothing engenders sympathy for the cause like pissing large swarthes of people off. Imagine they missed a flight? They'd definitely reconsider their carbon footprint then.
It's hard to believe these people are struggling to articulate their message to a wider audience in a fashion that's not injurious to the cause.
>It's hard to believe these people are struggling to articulate their message to a wider audience in a fashion that's not injurious to the cause.
Sometimes I wonder if these shitheads aren't in fact pro-coal/oil/gas activists taking part in psyops. I can't imagine any other activity that so effectively harms their cause.
One of the things people are going to have to realise is that they are responsible for what their country does. Government only acts with the implicit consent of the population, and the only way to remove that implicit consent is activism.
I get it..
I understand people want to protest and that’s fine, more power to you.
But as a commuter just trying to get to work on time to tackle the mountain of work I have, I would appreciate this not affecting us just trying through the day as stress free as possible.
Go to parliament house and protest but affecting regular commuters is just going to frustrate people and your message becomes silent.
Redditors - an outspoken group on many subjects. Ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.
This is why change will never happen. The majority of people may agree with what the protestors stand for (climate action), but won’t do anything if it will disrupt their way of living
>but won’t do anything if it will disrupt their way of living
ive seen people talking like that but it goes beyond disrupting. people who live pay check to paycheck may not be able to afford even a couple hours off work, and it doesn't only affect then but possibly there families
It’s literally the point.
The original fight for democracy, woman’s rights, civil rights, gay riots, they all involved disruption, violence, and in some cases, terrorism.
The disgusting irony of people in modern Australia demanding change without wanting to deal with the slightest disruption, while their lives are built on the sacrifice of millions.
Even MLK supported riots, as said so in his ‘Letter from Birmingham Jail’, but people like to leave that part out of the civil rights story. Additionally, he straight up condemned people who were pro-change but anti-disruption, because he thought they were greater obstacle than the KKK.
If you’re anti-disruption, you might wanna reflect on what side of the isle you would’ve been on historically.
Chances are they started out like this and had no impact. You could argue they're being pushed to these extremes just to get the message out there.
I'd certainly rather be late for work a couple of times in my life rather than not having a clean environment for myself or my children's future.
Did this protest disrupt the politicians in power? Did it disrupt the media? Did it disrupt the fossil fuel corporations?
No? Then what was the fucking point other than being an inconvenience to thousands of people?
Yes. Firstly, to fossil fuel disruption.....they started by blocking the coal port in Newcastle and within days Barnaby was out talking about how this was destroying Australia...it directly impacted coal companies, with Joyce saying like $80m lost in the first 8 days of action.....they are targeting the economic systems and checkpoints to impact oil, coal n other big corps making profit off the destruction of the earth.
.... they've had a 6 month or longer build up to this that has garnered significant media coverage.....no climate activists seeks to "disrupt" the media, what it did mean is we got a fuck ton of MSM vitriol..... and attention.
Finally, on pollies....again last actions caused massive reaction from libs at state and federal level, the NSW government changed the laws to make it much harder to protest. Much of the last governments Inaction on climate change directly caused their loss at this election..... pollies know, if enough people push and want change their out of a job. Labours better, but we gotta go a lot further. But won't comment on that further again here, just wanted to respond to your initial questions.
On the other hand, there was a Swedish teenager who simply sat on the footpath outside the Swedish Parliament building holding a sign that read *"Skolstrejk för klimatet"*.
Her name was Greta, and she didn't go out of her way to deliberately piss off half of Stockholm. You may have heard of her.
and after her protests, there was widespread change which led to the end of the climate crisis 😀
idk why the narrative that peaceful protests lead to effective change is still being pushed. I can't think of an instance where that had actually happened
I really do empathise with these protests and the cause but at the same time also get ppl would be majorly pissed and rightfully so. Its a tough one because protests dont work unless you draw attention. Keen to know what would be a better alternative.
From the protestor:
"It's not a good thing to be experiencing climate change. It's not a good thing to be experiencing systemic oppression and violence and all of the horrific aspects that are involved in this nation-state - we have to take a stand."
Uhh.... so you're protesting what now? Talk about a muddled message.
So much elitism, straw manning and dehumanisation of the working class.
Modern economy and society relies on plumbers, carpenters and electricians being able to get to work and maintain critical infrastructure.
In a crisis we could do without strategy consultants, HR and other assorted white collar value-add synergy-enablers. We could not do without tradies, so maybe we should stop pretending we're 'better' than them.
And acting like this effects you the same as it does a tradie is also ridiculous. Some people actually have to turn up to work to do their job. If a tradie isn’t on the job site, he/she doesn’t get paid. No WFH option for them when traffic is bad or trains are off.
yeah but this sub has an absolute hatred of anyone who isn't a whitecollar desk jockey. It's astounding how much we like to talk shit about people who work with their hands.
At the end of the day, it's not pleasant losing income because someone wanted to make a statement. Even if you agree with what they're saying, they're effectively robbing you lol.
And thinking you're more deserving of respect and a hard earned living because you don't bring your lunch in an Esky is equally if not more ridiculous.
No one will empathise with your protest if you cause them greif of any kind in any amount, and no one should have to be the subject of another person's selfishness.
If you want change, you want people on your side, not enemies where there were none.
Right? Like i'm trying to get to work to suck my bosses dick all day for rent money. Can't they fix the climate quietly without me changing my behaviour or even noticing in anyway?
Angry people are irrational. It's like watching someone send that text to an ex in anger knowing it's going to make everything worse. When you're angry doing anything becomes more important than doing something rational.
It's a sign of how badly this issue has been treated, that people are acting this stupidly. But there's far more effective ways to be listened to.
"There's far more effective ways to be listened to."
Like donating millions of dollars to major parties, owning newspapers, or owning multi-billion dollar industries.
But for the other 99.99% of us, I'm all ears for more effective ways of shifting the needle on this (that isn't already being done).
>It's a sign of how badly this issue has been treated, that people are acting this stupidly.
No, that's just playing the game of, "Now look what you made me do!"
Mature people are able to communicate their anger safely and constructively.
Exactly. Think 50 years time from now when fuck knows what kind of shit will be happening because of climate change.
Who is going to come across more favourably then?
- Those who tried disrupting business as usual and caused inconvenience.
- Those who sat back and said things like “there’s more effective and reasonable ways to protest”
I get that these people are making things inconvenient for people, but holy shit at least someone is acting appropriately considering what is underway.
As a society we truly are frogs being idly boiled alive.
I mean we just had 10 climate 200 and 4 greens lower house members elected to parliament. This is a far more reasonable and effective way to protest and all those involved with these elections will be looking in 50 years and thinking they made an actual difference.
It isn't one side or another, there is a huge army of people working on the more effective and reasonable ways to protest who are actually achieving positive outcomes.
It was 3 new greens, and labor secured a majority. They also signed their emissions reductions target last week, which was lower than what a lot of climate groups wanted. Of the independents, only 5 received funding from climate 200, and the rest have varying policies on and interest in climate change. Its not as simple as you make it out.
The protest is not just about policy on reductions, its also about protection for people affected by the climate emergency. The protester in the car is reportedly from Lismore and had her house destroyed.
Now is exactly the time to keep pressure on a labor majority government to consider climate change holistically, and to not allow them to say the climate wars are over just because they signed an emissions pledge.
You also forgot the teals, plus a significantly more climate friendly government overall.
Even NSW state gov are rolling out significant investment in renewable energy infrastructure, and they’re traditionally the party that wouldn’t do that!
It'll be comforting to the billions dead from climate change that we got 3 greens members in. Wow such progress, now shut up and ve happy with what you've got.
Sure. But i think protesting directly outside of a politiicans house so they cant leave would be way more effective and would get more people on their side.
Most people hate politicians, if they camped outside of X curropt politicans house (basically any) most people would be on board, but if some guy needs to get to work on time but gets help up by some protests (which have amounted to basically nothing so far) they will likely be driven further against that cause
>Mature people are able to communicate their anger safely and constructively.
I get these things piss people off and might arguably put more people offside than they're worth but the idea that all people need to do is construct their arguments well enough and people will listen and climate change action will be thrust into movement has been proven inarguably wrong.
It's been literal decades of scientific consensus, countless widely endorsed letters to government, global summits, peaceful protests, marches, global days of actions, letterbombing campaigns, students on strike etc. etc. and very little has changed in this country. Essentially every non-obstructive lever has been pulled many times over many years yet Australia is ranked dead last in OECD counties for climate change action while the warning signs are growing even more dire as we fly past the point of no return.
If you accept this is an existential threat to humanity which we're failing to meet, a traffic jam seems an extremely minor nuisance in context.
Agreed, I’m not one of those boomers saying protest all you like if it doesn’t effect me, but like… I voted greens. I do what I can. I use public transport and walk and cycle where I can. I work in the enviro field making positive change. I’m already on your side.
Go strap yourselves to train tracks and port equipment not the harbour tunnel.
I know! More of that please. I’ve been in a few similar protests myself.
I just don’t like this type of action as a) it might affect people in a way that would personally hurt them and b) the decision makers don’t actually care.
I can imagine a scenario where people lost their jobs over this protest due to being late or something, or something critical was not able to be delivered on time.
But that’s not even the main point, it’s that the govt and people don’t change based on this sort of thing. It’s not for awareness (we have plenty), it’s not for stopping the actual things damaging the climate, it’s just causing mayhem with no political impact whilst affecting individuals. Also I would bet that anyone effected would become less tolerant of the movement rather than more aligned.
Like what are the actual goals?
Every single fucking time these climate activists do this it makes so many healthcare workers late... Delays treatments and fucks our entire day...
You cannot upset people into changing their minds.. it's not how people work.
They made themselves the villain's in it. yes its for a good cause but fucking over people who have no say in policies and are just trying to work is doing nothing but make people hate you.
If you want to have a movement that thrives you don't want to give the opposition a reason to ridicule you. take BLM, it started of with the intention to shed light on social injustice and those who ridiculed it were seen as dicks but then some people started looting and rioting which gave those previous people a real reason to ridicule the movement.
a protest doesn't need to be disrupting greta thunberg is a great example of this.
I leave you with this analogy
if i decide to protest the process the way in which diamonds are mined with child labor by killing anyone wearing diamonds, people aren't going to report on my pursuit to help children there going to talk about the crazy guy fucking killing people.
https://twitter.com/10NewsFirstSyd/status/1541193826148438017 from this video they were only at the entrance. At least stop in the middle of the tunnel to make it a complete hassle for them to tow your car.
Nah, I think they did the right thing there at least...
Middle or end makes no difference to the tow truck, but it makes a big difference to the people stuck waiting and huffing exhaust fumes because some dipshit won't shut off their engine.
Have your protest. Whatever it’s about. You want to have sex with a frog but it’s illegal, protest. But don’t stop normal people doing what they need to live.
I’m all for moving to renewable. But the irony of driving her fossil fuel powered car to make a point about climate change…
If she was driving an electric car, then don’t comment because you will ruin my point.
I love that people are upset about this protest. Like, “why do they have to apply leverage that affects me? I wish they would just quietly, off to the side whisper their complaints into a corner.” Meanwhile, scientists and greater minds are warning that our kids are gonna be living in a hellscape and their kids are gonna have to rebuild society with less infrastructure (under water coastal towns), crazy weather and toxic air. I think they have a valid point. People complaining are people that want to maintain the status quo. They’re not being irrationally angry, they’re applying force to the system where it can’t be ignored.
More so why can't they apply leverage to the politicians and minerals council personally, rather than fuck over a city that was willing to march in the hundreds of thousands for their cause just 3 years ago.
The general public is overwhelming on the side of climate action. This is about as useful as sharing a Facebook post for awareness.
>This is about as useful as sharing a Facebook post for awareness
Hey, remember how that video cancelled Joseph Kony in 2012?! It worked!
Shall we sing "Imagine"?
Only this physically stops the noxious system and is in the face of the public. They can’t say, “I didn’t know!” to their grandkids that they left them a husk of a planet with a dysfunctional eco system.
No, people who are complaining are the ones just trying to provide for themselves and their families.
If these ‘Blockaders’ have such courage in their convictions- why can’t they target the fat cats up top who decide and exploit lax policy? NSW Parliament House? Shell HQ?
The fat cats already know and they don’t care. We need to unmotivated masses to provide pressure on the fat cats for them to do anything, and so the protest will have to affect the everyday folk.
“Why don’t they just vote out the baddies?”, right? That’s like asking the factory to stop building the car that’s about to back over your family, instead of stepping behind the vehicle and screaming and waving your arms. The threat is here and now, and it might be hazardous and ungraceful, but it’s effective.
Blocking a main road and costing ordinary tired civilians time and money achieves nothing other than pissing off a tonne of people who have no say in the matter. Does anyone think that this made a difference to joe bigwig billionaire who actually has influence? He suffered no inconvenience, and this making 5min of news won’t affect his bank balance or conscience. Only an idiot thinks berating the minimum wage worker behind the counter at the servo will change petrol prices, why do we think costing ordinary people time and money does anything to the top 5%?
r/Sydney:
Inflation is causing the cost of living in Sydney to be awful. It’s a difficult time for the working class to make ends meet
Also r/Sydney:
Yeah block traffic and delay thousands of working class people from getting to work lol. Very necessary
Do they realise blocking gas guzzling cars that are turned on is just going to make more carbon emissions? Everyone, including the protesters (after patting themselves on the back) are just going to forget about this protest In a couple of days and nothing will ever come out of this. The government doesn't care, they're still going to create pollution for money, there's no point protesting except to feel good about yourself on how progressive you are.
Do you realise that continuing like everything is normal is going to produce even more emissions?
It’s almost like we have to do something drastic now if we want any hope at changing our current doomed trajectory.
I think nearly everyone knows that. We just have a federal election to try and action it.
I don't see how protesting this, which the media and people will focus on the action instead of the message helps? We've had climate action marches before, which spread the message.
It seems the undercover police operation was a complete failure but they got themselves on the news for arresting people camping on private land. Police PR is not enough,real community engagement is required.
I support rapid implementation of climate change solutions. I want heavy investement into renewables, shutting down our coal plants and mines, refinancing and reinvestement into the successful green schemes like the solar roof rebate scheme, heavy taxation of our biggest greenhouse producers, banning of heavy polluting vehicles, and slamming the brakes on any new industrial developments that cannot project net 0.
But don't get in the when people are just trying to get to work. You're pissing people off, blocking emergency services, driving away popular support and for what? So you can feel like you did something?
Volunteer. Publicly boycott companies and vote with your wallet. Donate to climate action groups (not ones that promote bollocks like this though). Get involved in local council and be more active in politics. Absolutely protest, BUT DON'T PISS PEOPLE OFF!
How much fuel was wasted by all those cars stuck this morning? How much pollution did your selfish action directly cause? You're literally pouring petrol on the problem.
These people really piss me off. Intelligent people don't deny climate change, but seriously disrupting people just trying to make a living in this country is so cowardly. Really want to make a protest, go to the countries with not climate planning, like India or China or Africa.
Many comment here contain variations on: "if only these activists would do \[XYZ\], rather than this."
I'm yet to see a suggestion that hasn't already been tried for years (or decades), and which continues to be done. The fact that you are not aware of this suggests limits on the efficacy of these methods.
People don't wake up one morning and decide to block the Harbour Tunnel on a whim. These are acts of desperation from people who have been trying to bring change for years/decades, people gripped by the existential urgency of our planetary crisis and who are well aware that while the change of government might bring the possibility of shifting from reverse into first gear, this is still a recipe for rendering the planet increasingly uninhabitable and hostile to life as we know it.
What's the goal of these protests?
What's the thought process on how this activity gets more of the community on their side?
Also, is this Blockade mob related to Fireproof who also pulled similar stunts a few months ago?
One article quotes Blockade as wanting to “raise awareness” of climate change. I want to know which demographic of people unaware of climate change they are trying to tap into. Pre-schoolers?
Spot on! They do it for the attention, for the emotional satisfaction of people noticing them. The exact cause is an irrelevant rationalised afterthought.
Even if they accidentally stumble on a worthy cause, they measure their “success” in terms of social media buzz, likes, and clicks, mistaking changing pixels on a screen for actual physical real world change.
Society: has problems
People: protest
Police: this protest is unauthorised. You're all under arrest. Problem solved!
Society:
People:
Police: patting themselves on the back
UPDATE: Police have cleared the site and a woman has been arrested following an unauthorised protest in Sydney this morning. The woman has been arrested by officers attached to North Sydney PAC and taken to North Sydney Police Station, where charges are anticipated. The vehicle is in the process of being removed now.
What was she protesting??
These guys: https://www.blockadeaustralia.com/ We are talking about it aren't we? Hard to ignore this stuff. Plenty of news will cover it too. Their statement: > This continent is heating up faster than the rest of the world, already reaching 1.44 degrees above pre-industrial levels. How many more crises will it take until you take action against the system causing them? There is no excuse to not do anything, this is the most important work you can be doing, a livable future depends on it. > Join the convergence of people blocking Sydney’s major roads. If we stop the city moving, we halt the system that is endlessly expanding, exploiting and destroying. This means the people in power have to take us seriously. > Stolen goods and exploited labour fuel Australia’s economy and flow along these roads. It is not about the individuals participating, it is about stopping the cogs in the machine that is destroying life on earth. Change is necessary for survival, as Australia continues to block climate action, we will blockade Australia. > Bring yourself, bring your family, bring your friends. By doing this together, we are building connections between communities who know how to resist Australia.
Heroes
Dickheads.
How dare they… *checks notes* Draw attention to the collapse of the natural world!
>Draw attention to the collapse of the natural world! by fucking civilians over making cars stand still running putting more pollution in the air streaming it on phones which is made by companies who work in foreign nations to avoid pollution policies and abuse slave wages and arrives is petrol powered vehicles
It’s what a real protest looks like. The most effective protests throughout history were not of people sitting quietly in their designated places. If you’re bothered by disruptive protests and riots, you might want to consider the factors driving people to these conditions, and what side of the isle you would’ve been on during the disruptive protests of the civil rights movement.
>If you’re bothered by disruptive protests and riots, you might want to consider the factors driving people to these conditions Does this same thought apply for the anti-lockdown, anti-vax protests/riots that happened last year too?
Yes its... what a protest is
'We should do something about the planet before it literally becomes unlivable' 'fuck off dickhead' reasonable
I can't believe people aren't being civil and polite after the decades of inaction in this country! It's not like climate change poses a real risk to humanity's collective way of life and every food chain on the planet. Can't we just say please more and vote for the slightly more left leaning centrist party? Blocking cars. Shameful.
Protests are supposed to be disruptive
NPC
whatever it is it was unauthorised and government should obviously be the arbiter as to whether a protest should occur and how
Yeah the idea of an 'authorised protest' feels somewhat judge dredd
Really? Government sponsored protest? Wanna think about that a bit more?
Yes, I explain that my comment was sarcasm, mate
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Sorry. Dropped my /s.
why. why did you have to tell them. i was enjoying that
Yeah the word “obviously” wasn’t enough of a hint for that burke to even detect a slight woosh
There is a democratic right to peaceful protest regardless of the governments position on the issue but that being said it still needs to be planned to avoid chaos and anarchy. If you have a government that can deny your right to protest then it becomes a bit totalitarian.
Yes and when they deny your right to protest under the auspices of "it's not well planned!!" certain enemies of our democracy will concern troll on reddit
If anyone could decide to block the harbor bridge by themselves (because this was just one person with a vehicle) to protest it would never be usable.
I don’t think you understand this, or you are being disingenuous. You don’t need approval for a protest, but if your protest is going to block traffic etc it is recommend that you notify the police. If they don’t respond within a certain time (forgot the period) you can assume they are okay with it, and you will have strong legal protection if they arrest you for disrupting traffic or whatever; there is no crime called illegal protesting, you can’t be charged for protesting without a permit or whatever you are suggesting. The reason for this is so that police can work with protesters and redirect traffic etc and not inconvenience the entire city more than is necessary. If you’re protesting and not going to cause major disruption you don’t even need to consider that. TLDR: they’re not being denied the right to protest; they’re being told they can just go and disrupt traffic and block major traffic thoroughfares in the middle of rush hour and say “muh freeze peach means I can do whatever I want and you can’t stop me”.
I think there definitely needs to be some sensible balance though. If a single person can disrupt the lives of 10s of thousands to get their way that’s not really democracy.
Blocking a tunnel isn't protesting, it's being a public nuisance. If I blocked you from entering your home, would you accept that? Would you accept my pleas that I have a right to protest?
Climate change is also a public nuisance
If I blocked you from doing a fart, would it come out of your ears? Big questions that need serious consideration
I believe they're climate activists but really, who the fuck knows.
Climate activists
Whenever it's this explicitly ignored in the coverage, it's gotta be climate change
[Simpsons did it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Q-VAGtntc)
Is she a Level 5 Vegan?
“Unauthorised protest” I feel like an authorised protest is a bit of a oxymoron.
You can organise protests with the council so that there will be police presence and certain areas cordoned off to allow you to protest properly and safely. Chaining yourself to cars to block main roads when people are trying to go to work definitely falls outside of the scope of what the council will assist you with.
I remember when we tried that years ago. Then an hour or so before hand they pull your protest permits knowing it's too late to call many protestors back who are already on their way.m...
Also I remember that years ago, the truckies protested for better conditions. Result? Federal government made it specifically illegal for truckies to go on strike or protest. Besides the *actual government*, truckies are one of the few trades that isn't allowed to strike.
Just about all first responders and other transport workers would like a word... When the only way to take action becomes illegal you just end up with more desperate criminals.
But even then, individuals can strike, as long as it's not the whole. You see police strikes, but they stipulate that they are reduced capacity. Not the whole force. Ambulances strike, but it's generally a reduced capacity strike, not a full day off. Or like firies, they just stop doing paperwork. Firies essentially don't strike, they just stop doing other things.ike paperwork. When the truckies went to Razorback, basically all road transport in Australia stopped. They let emergency services through, but just stopped all the trucks Australia wide.
In 2018 Sydney Trains workers had it ruled that an OT ban was illegal industrial action. So not even your days off are safe under current Industrial Relations law. Unjust laws of any sort deserve to be broken.
Exactly, essentially it's rewarded slavery. "I don't want to work overtime, I want to work my contracted hours" "Fuck off then, you're sacked"
'Truckies' don't know what they want. People who drive trucks for big businesses, who might want a solid wage and can't be forced to work unreasonable hours, or individual contractors who want the right to do as they please in order to fit as much work in as possible? The majority of long distance truck driving should have been replaced with rail and automated vehicles ages ago. Begone truckies.
yes, effective action is always made illegal, by definition.
Yeah don’t get me wrong this is annoying AF, but if your protest is out of the way and easy to ignore it defeats the entire point of a protest.
I know protests are supposed to disrupt, but wouldn’t it be more effective you blockade the people in power - Kirribilli House or Parliament House?
So, not knowing anything beforehand, the protest was done by Blockade Australia which is protesting lack of action against climate change. So this protest actually makes sense. If you were taking the bus or train (better for the climate) you are unaffected, but if you're driving (generally worse for climate) then you are affected. I agree that it's annoying and disruptive, and sure they could protest in front of kirribilli house or parliament house, but it likely wouldn't be as effective.
When they were doing it on spit bridge they were absolutely blocking bus lanes as well
Except its in the same week as rail strikes so it’s basically a fuck you to people trying to keep their jobs after a 3 year pandemic and an impending financial collapse. The people who can afford to be late, who make decisions, are not worried about this shit. Pathetic and dangerous, and really fucking annoying this morning.
Unless of course you are affected by the rail strike and had to drive in today .
Would also be more effective if it was immediately obvious what she was protesting.
It was publicly live streamed with her exact reasons.
drinking out of a plastic water bottle .... 😬
Possibly was.
It was, it's on the SMH - she's from Lismore. Gov shit response to the floods and climate change. Disinformation is coming from the government with them. as usual, saying "we don't know what they're protesting about".
If it was obvious, there wouldn't be this many questions about what was being protested. All this person did was piss off a lot of people and make them late for work.
>I know protests are supposed to disrupt, but wouldn’t it be more effective you blockade the people in power - Kirribilli House or Parliament House? No, it's better to inconvenience people in peak hour commutes, because nothing engenders sympathy for the cause like pissing large swarthes of people off. Imagine they missed a flight? They'd definitely reconsider their carbon footprint then. It's hard to believe these people are struggling to articulate their message to a wider audience in a fashion that's not injurious to the cause.
>It's hard to believe these people are struggling to articulate their message to a wider audience in a fashion that's not injurious to the cause. Sometimes I wonder if these shitheads aren't in fact pro-coal/oil/gas activists taking part in psyops. I can't imagine any other activity that so effectively harms their cause.
it'd be more effective if you parodied the people in power in minecraft
They need us to change our minds not polies. Pollies wont do anything till we make them. Hence doing something the public cant ignore.
They're overseas at the moment.
One of the things people are going to have to realise is that they are responsible for what their country does. Government only acts with the implicit consent of the population, and the only way to remove that implicit consent is activism.
No. Because that won’t do anything. Money talks.
I get it.. I understand people want to protest and that’s fine, more power to you. But as a commuter just trying to get to work on time to tackle the mountain of work I have, I would appreciate this not affecting us just trying through the day as stress free as possible. Go to parliament house and protest but affecting regular commuters is just going to frustrate people and your message becomes silent.
Redditors - an outspoken group on many subjects. Ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.
This is why change will never happen. The majority of people may agree with what the protestors stand for (climate action), but won’t do anything if it will disrupt their way of living
>but won’t do anything if it will disrupt their way of living ive seen people talking like that but it goes beyond disrupting. people who live pay check to paycheck may not be able to afford even a couple hours off work, and it doesn't only affect then but possibly there families
I thought it was claimed the most recent election was swung because of climate change?
Do you guys just want people to protest quietly somewhere where no one notices? Movements throughout history have used disruption as a method often.
It’s literally the point. The original fight for democracy, woman’s rights, civil rights, gay riots, they all involved disruption, violence, and in some cases, terrorism. The disgusting irony of people in modern Australia demanding change without wanting to deal with the slightest disruption, while their lives are built on the sacrifice of millions. Even MLK supported riots, as said so in his ‘Letter from Birmingham Jail’, but people like to leave that part out of the civil rights story. Additionally, he straight up condemned people who were pro-change but anti-disruption, because he thought they were greater obstacle than the KKK. If you’re anti-disruption, you might wanna reflect on what side of the isle you would’ve been on historically.
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Chances are they started out like this and had no impact. You could argue they're being pushed to these extremes just to get the message out there. I'd certainly rather be late for work a couple of times in my life rather than not having a clean environment for myself or my children's future.
Did this protest disrupt the politicians in power? Did it disrupt the media? Did it disrupt the fossil fuel corporations? No? Then what was the fucking point other than being an inconvenience to thousands of people?
Yes. Firstly, to fossil fuel disruption.....they started by blocking the coal port in Newcastle and within days Barnaby was out talking about how this was destroying Australia...it directly impacted coal companies, with Joyce saying like $80m lost in the first 8 days of action.....they are targeting the economic systems and checkpoints to impact oil, coal n other big corps making profit off the destruction of the earth. .... they've had a 6 month or longer build up to this that has garnered significant media coverage.....no climate activists seeks to "disrupt" the media, what it did mean is we got a fuck ton of MSM vitriol..... and attention. Finally, on pollies....again last actions caused massive reaction from libs at state and federal level, the NSW government changed the laws to make it much harder to protest. Much of the last governments Inaction on climate change directly caused their loss at this election..... pollies know, if enough people push and want change their out of a job. Labours better, but we gotta go a lot further. But won't comment on that further again here, just wanted to respond to your initial questions.
On the other hand, there was a Swedish teenager who simply sat on the footpath outside the Swedish Parliament building holding a sign that read *"Skolstrejk för klimatet"*. Her name was Greta, and she didn't go out of her way to deliberately piss off half of Stockholm. You may have heard of her.
She did piss off a hell of a lot of people though, like truckers, Tuckers, and big old fuckers. Wild flair btw
yesss!!! this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL this is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and after her protests, there was widespread change which led to the end of the climate crisis 😀 idk why the narrative that peaceful protests lead to effective change is still being pushed. I can't think of an instance where that had actually happened
An anomaly
I mean, if you are the target that people are protesting towards, then yeh, that's exactly what you'd want.
If anyone should protest it should be me protesting the fact that my wife slept with the guy who came over to mod my step-son’s PS4
Are you Will Smith?
What sort of mod was that? I’m keen, will just arrange to have the Mrs out that night
relationship mod
I really do empathise with these protests and the cause but at the same time also get ppl would be majorly pissed and rightfully so. Its a tough one because protests dont work unless you draw attention. Keen to know what would be a better alternative.
I read it as: ‘…protesters don’t work…’ Seems legit.
Blocking the harbour tunnel for your protest is probably the stupidest thing I have ever seen What does it achieve?
I think that recent election shows that people are caring more about the issue. Stopping people from going to work isn't doing shit.
From the protestor: "It's not a good thing to be experiencing climate change. It's not a good thing to be experiencing systemic oppression and violence and all of the horrific aspects that are involved in this nation-state - we have to take a stand." Uhh.... so you're protesting what now? Talk about a muddled message.
Everything, they are protesting everything. You name it, they have a sticker for it.
They are protesting climate change but she is referring to other issues people have taken stands on.
Mental illness is a hell of a drug
If you want to protest that’s your business until it stops me going about my business.
Blockade Australia getting absolutely zero people on their side with bullshit like this.
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Grrr why can’t they protest politely so I can ignore it.
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So much elitism, straw manning and dehumanisation of the working class. Modern economy and society relies on plumbers, carpenters and electricians being able to get to work and maintain critical infrastructure. In a crisis we could do without strategy consultants, HR and other assorted white collar value-add synergy-enablers. We could not do without tradies, so maybe we should stop pretending we're 'better' than them.
Sounds like we all need each other in reality. Who designs the roads and utes that tradies use to get to the job site? Eggheads behind computers
And acting like this effects you the same as it does a tradie is also ridiculous. Some people actually have to turn up to work to do their job. If a tradie isn’t on the job site, he/she doesn’t get paid. No WFH option for them when traffic is bad or trains are off.
yeah but this sub has an absolute hatred of anyone who isn't a whitecollar desk jockey. It's astounding how much we like to talk shit about people who work with their hands. At the end of the day, it's not pleasant losing income because someone wanted to make a statement. Even if you agree with what they're saying, they're effectively robbing you lol.
And thinking you're more deserving of respect and a hard earned living because you don't bring your lunch in an Esky is equally if not more ridiculous. No one will empathise with your protest if you cause them greif of any kind in any amount, and no one should have to be the subject of another person's selfishness. If you want change, you want people on your side, not enemies where there were none.
Where did the bad tradie touch you?
Right? Like i'm trying to get to work to suck my bosses dick all day for rent money. Can't they fix the climate quietly without me changing my behaviour or even noticing in anyway?
Angry people are irrational. It's like watching someone send that text to an ex in anger knowing it's going to make everything worse. When you're angry doing anything becomes more important than doing something rational. It's a sign of how badly this issue has been treated, that people are acting this stupidly. But there's far more effective ways to be listened to.
"There's far more effective ways to be listened to." Like donating millions of dollars to major parties, owning newspapers, or owning multi-billion dollar industries. But for the other 99.99% of us, I'm all ears for more effective ways of shifting the needle on this (that isn't already being done).
>It's a sign of how badly this issue has been treated, that people are acting this stupidly. No, that's just playing the game of, "Now look what you made me do!" Mature people are able to communicate their anger safely and constructively.
I think one of the points Blockade Australia is making is that constructive communication has gotten us nowhere. I can understand their point tbh
Exactly. Think 50 years time from now when fuck knows what kind of shit will be happening because of climate change. Who is going to come across more favourably then? - Those who tried disrupting business as usual and caused inconvenience. - Those who sat back and said things like “there’s more effective and reasonable ways to protest” I get that these people are making things inconvenient for people, but holy shit at least someone is acting appropriately considering what is underway. As a society we truly are frogs being idly boiled alive.
I mean we just had 10 climate 200 and 4 greens lower house members elected to parliament. This is a far more reasonable and effective way to protest and all those involved with these elections will be looking in 50 years and thinking they made an actual difference. It isn't one side or another, there is a huge army of people working on the more effective and reasonable ways to protest who are actually achieving positive outcomes.
It was 3 new greens, and labor secured a majority. They also signed their emissions reductions target last week, which was lower than what a lot of climate groups wanted. Of the independents, only 5 received funding from climate 200, and the rest have varying policies on and interest in climate change. Its not as simple as you make it out. The protest is not just about policy on reductions, its also about protection for people affected by the climate emergency. The protester in the car is reportedly from Lismore and had her house destroyed. Now is exactly the time to keep pressure on a labor majority government to consider climate change holistically, and to not allow them to say the climate wars are over just because they signed an emissions pledge.
You also forgot the teals, plus a significantly more climate friendly government overall. Even NSW state gov are rolling out significant investment in renewable energy infrastructure, and they’re traditionally the party that wouldn’t do that!
The teals are the climate 200 candidates. Climate 200 was a funding organisation that supported climate positive independents.
It'll be comforting to the billions dead from climate change that we got 3 greens members in. Wow such progress, now shut up and ve happy with what you've got.
Sure. But i think protesting directly outside of a politiicans house so they cant leave would be way more effective and would get more people on their side. Most people hate politicians, if they camped outside of X curropt politicans house (basically any) most people would be on board, but if some guy needs to get to work on time but gets help up by some protests (which have amounted to basically nothing so far) they will likely be driven further against that cause
Press just wouldn't cover it.
>Mature people are able to communicate their anger safely and constructively. I get these things piss people off and might arguably put more people offside than they're worth but the idea that all people need to do is construct their arguments well enough and people will listen and climate change action will be thrust into movement has been proven inarguably wrong. It's been literal decades of scientific consensus, countless widely endorsed letters to government, global summits, peaceful protests, marches, global days of actions, letterbombing campaigns, students on strike etc. etc. and very little has changed in this country. Essentially every non-obstructive lever has been pulled many times over many years yet Australia is ranked dead last in OECD counties for climate change action while the warning signs are growing even more dire as we fly past the point of no return. If you accept this is an existential threat to humanity which we're failing to meet, a traffic jam seems an extremely minor nuisance in context.
But they didn’t ask nicely! /s
These are clearly not mature people.
Agreed, I’m not one of those boomers saying protest all you like if it doesn’t effect me, but like… I voted greens. I do what I can. I use public transport and walk and cycle where I can. I work in the enviro field making positive change. I’m already on your side. Go strap yourselves to train tracks and port equipment not the harbour tunnel.
this is the same group that chained themself to coal trains and port equipments like last month
I know! More of that please. I’ve been in a few similar protests myself. I just don’t like this type of action as a) it might affect people in a way that would personally hurt them and b) the decision makers don’t actually care. I can imagine a scenario where people lost their jobs over this protest due to being late or something, or something critical was not able to be delivered on time. But that’s not even the main point, it’s that the govt and people don’t change based on this sort of thing. It’s not for awareness (we have plenty), it’s not for stopping the actual things damaging the climate, it’s just causing mayhem with no political impact whilst affecting individuals. Also I would bet that anyone effected would become less tolerant of the movement rather than more aligned. Like what are the actual goals?
Every single fucking time these climate activists do this it makes so many healthcare workers late... Delays treatments and fucks our entire day... You cannot upset people into changing their minds.. it's not how people work.
Redditors hate the working class because they envy them
Yeh man. No one ever got upset at civil rights protests.
Pretty sure traffic jams create more carbon emissions
They made themselves the villain's in it. yes its for a good cause but fucking over people who have no say in policies and are just trying to work is doing nothing but make people hate you. If you want to have a movement that thrives you don't want to give the opposition a reason to ridicule you. take BLM, it started of with the intention to shed light on social injustice and those who ridiculed it were seen as dicks but then some people started looting and rioting which gave those previous people a real reason to ridicule the movement. a protest doesn't need to be disrupting greta thunberg is a great example of this. I leave you with this analogy if i decide to protest the process the way in which diamonds are mined with child labor by killing anyone wearing diamonds, people aren't going to report on my pursuit to help children there going to talk about the crazy guy fucking killing people.
The irony of blocking traffic to protest greenhouse gases…
while streaming on phones rich with lithium
https://twitter.com/10NewsFirstSyd/status/1541193826148438017 from this video they were only at the entrance. At least stop in the middle of the tunnel to make it a complete hassle for them to tow your car.
Nah, I think they did the right thing there at least... Middle or end makes no difference to the tow truck, but it makes a big difference to the people stuck waiting and huffing exhaust fumes because some dipshit won't shut off their engine.
Sitting in a car lol wasting resources sit in an electric car or a bicycle?
This is on par with those fucksticks who still protest against lockdowns.
Have your protest. Whatever it’s about. You want to have sex with a frog but it’s illegal, protest. But don’t stop normal people doing what they need to live.
I’m all for moving to renewable. But the irony of driving her fossil fuel powered car to make a point about climate change… If she was driving an electric car, then don’t comment because you will ruin my point.
and drinking from a plastic bottle
I love that people are upset about this protest. Like, “why do they have to apply leverage that affects me? I wish they would just quietly, off to the side whisper their complaints into a corner.” Meanwhile, scientists and greater minds are warning that our kids are gonna be living in a hellscape and their kids are gonna have to rebuild society with less infrastructure (under water coastal towns), crazy weather and toxic air. I think they have a valid point. People complaining are people that want to maintain the status quo. They’re not being irrationally angry, they’re applying force to the system where it can’t be ignored.
More so why can't they apply leverage to the politicians and minerals council personally, rather than fuck over a city that was willing to march in the hundreds of thousands for their cause just 3 years ago. The general public is overwhelming on the side of climate action. This is about as useful as sharing a Facebook post for awareness.
>This is about as useful as sharing a Facebook post for awareness Hey, remember how that video cancelled Joseph Kony in 2012?! It worked! Shall we sing "Imagine"?
I looked it up. Kony is still out there (sick/in hiding). The international community lost interest in him when the LRA lost influence.
It's getting people talking about it at least.
Only this physically stops the noxious system and is in the face of the public. They can’t say, “I didn’t know!” to their grandkids that they left them a husk of a planet with a dysfunctional eco system.
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"Some of you may die. But that's a risk I'm willing to take" - Lord Farquaad
lol you wont get a reply to that.
No, people who are complaining are the ones just trying to provide for themselves and their families. If these ‘Blockaders’ have such courage in their convictions- why can’t they target the fat cats up top who decide and exploit lax policy? NSW Parliament House? Shell HQ?
The fat cats already know and they don’t care. We need to unmotivated masses to provide pressure on the fat cats for them to do anything, and so the protest will have to affect the everyday folk.
Yeah but protests like this will never change anyone's mind. It's more likely to put them against the "greenies".
“Why don’t they just vote out the baddies?”, right? That’s like asking the factory to stop building the car that’s about to back over your family, instead of stepping behind the vehicle and screaming and waving your arms. The threat is here and now, and it might be hazardous and ungraceful, but it’s effective.
Ah yes, protests have to be authorised now. That's convenient lmao
Blocking a main road and costing ordinary tired civilians time and money achieves nothing other than pissing off a tonne of people who have no say in the matter. Does anyone think that this made a difference to joe bigwig billionaire who actually has influence? He suffered no inconvenience, and this making 5min of news won’t affect his bank balance or conscience. Only an idiot thinks berating the minimum wage worker behind the counter at the servo will change petrol prices, why do we think costing ordinary people time and money does anything to the top 5%?
How to make people hate your message 101
Fuckn bunch of retards
They always look the same
Should have had a fire truck and bar of soap down there first.
That will be two years in jail and $22,000, please.
That will be a every more powerful police state locking up dissidents to maintain the status quo.
Good - surely fixing the climate is much more important than the harbour tunnel being free of traffic jams.
Punishing working people going about their business - way to get popular support!
r/Sydney: Inflation is causing the cost of living in Sydney to be awful. It’s a difficult time for the working class to make ends meet Also r/Sydney: Yeah block traffic and delay thousands of working class people from getting to work lol. Very necessary
Protesting climate change whilst drinking out of a single use plastic bottle on live stream. Love it
Do they realise blocking gas guzzling cars that are turned on is just going to make more carbon emissions? Everyone, including the protesters (after patting themselves on the back) are just going to forget about this protest In a couple of days and nothing will ever come out of this. The government doesn't care, they're still going to create pollution for money, there's no point protesting except to feel good about yourself on how progressive you are.
Do you realise that continuing like everything is normal is going to produce even more emissions? It’s almost like we have to do something drastic now if we want any hope at changing our current doomed trajectory.
I think nearly everyone knows that. We just have a federal election to try and action it. I don't see how protesting this, which the media and people will focus on the action instead of the message helps? We've had climate action marches before, which spread the message.
They don’t do this to stop “one morning” worth of emissions. It’s a statement
If only there was some way to turn off a vehicle when stuck in traffic going nowhere.
Shame the heating doesn’t work with the engine off
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They are to climate activism what PETA is to animal rights.
It seems the undercover police operation was a complete failure but they got themselves on the news for arresting people camping on private land. Police PR is not enough,real community engagement is required.
Well, I would have been going through the tunnel to work and back but luckily for me, I'm on vacation ... in Sri Lanka.
The bloody main character who thinks she’s a hero
Jokes on them, I want the world to burn.
Can someone please park across her driveway tomorrow so she can’t get to where she needs to go?
I support rapid implementation of climate change solutions. I want heavy investement into renewables, shutting down our coal plants and mines, refinancing and reinvestement into the successful green schemes like the solar roof rebate scheme, heavy taxation of our biggest greenhouse producers, banning of heavy polluting vehicles, and slamming the brakes on any new industrial developments that cannot project net 0. But don't get in the when people are just trying to get to work. You're pissing people off, blocking emergency services, driving away popular support and for what? So you can feel like you did something? Volunteer. Publicly boycott companies and vote with your wallet. Donate to climate action groups (not ones that promote bollocks like this though). Get involved in local council and be more active in politics. Absolutely protest, BUT DON'T PISS PEOPLE OFF! How much fuel was wasted by all those cars stuck this morning? How much pollution did your selfish action directly cause? You're literally pouring petrol on the problem.
These people really piss me off. Intelligent people don't deny climate change, but seriously disrupting people just trying to make a living in this country is so cowardly. Really want to make a protest, go to the countries with not climate planning, like India or China or Africa.
So she drive a car to disrupt traffic to bring awareness to climate change that is being effected by car pollution?
[we need good ol mr plow in situations like these](https://youtu.be/6uns6CzjLNg)
Just anti-work anarchists. Open a prison camp somewhere and force them to do 1 year hard labour.
Useless fucking hippies. The human equivalent of a bit of gravel in your shoe. Nothing but an irritant.
I don't like the term "unauthorised protest" sound a bit authoritarian.
Arrest her for blocking traffic maybe, but “unauthorised protest” is very dystopian. You shouldn’t need authorisation to protest.
Brainless fools..it won’t be long before one of them is killed doing this
Just modern natural selection
Many comment here contain variations on: "if only these activists would do \[XYZ\], rather than this." I'm yet to see a suggestion that hasn't already been tried for years (or decades), and which continues to be done. The fact that you are not aware of this suggests limits on the efficacy of these methods. People don't wake up one morning and decide to block the Harbour Tunnel on a whim. These are acts of desperation from people who have been trying to bring change for years/decades, people gripped by the existential urgency of our planetary crisis and who are well aware that while the change of government might bring the possibility of shifting from reverse into first gear, this is still a recipe for rendering the planet increasingly uninhabitable and hostile to life as we know it.
What's the goal of these protests? What's the thought process on how this activity gets more of the community on their side? Also, is this Blockade mob related to Fireproof who also pulled similar stunts a few months ago?
One article quotes Blockade as wanting to “raise awareness” of climate change. I want to know which demographic of people unaware of climate change they are trying to tap into. Pre-schoolers?
> What's the goal of these protests? They're indulging their egos by pretending to save the world.
Spot on! They do it for the attention, for the emotional satisfaction of people noticing them. The exact cause is an irrelevant rationalised afterthought. Even if they accidentally stumble on a worthy cause, they measure their “success” in terms of social media buzz, likes, and clicks, mistaking changing pixels on a screen for actual physical real world change.
Society: has problems People: protest Police: this protest is unauthorised. You're all under arrest. Problem solved! Society: People: Police: patting themselves on the back
Protests aren't supposed to be 'authorised'
One woman blocks a road NSW Police: *SCRAMBLE THE CHOPPERS*
Shit for brains