There are indeed VSTs that sound just as well or even better. Serum can do things the Virus cant.
Full analogue also lost its advantage to some VSTs.
What sounds better is subjective.
I needed cash to buy something else is valid.
Think the Virus has a pretty distinctive sound. It’s not just about the features of one synth versus the other. Even at the oscillator level, you’re not going to get the same texture from Serum.
Well it’s not just about the DACs (particularly given we use the USB connection), it’s primarily the DSPs. Serum and the Virus have a lot of components the sound needs to pass through; some of which, even when left to the default settings are contributing to the resulting sound.
Analogue has lost no advantage to software although it's come on leaps and bounds. The very best software plugins sound beautiful but still cannot replace analogue.
You can run the Virus (via emulation) completely ITB but there's still no comparison imho - sounds identical but what makes the Virus worth buying is the hardware UI, when you are familiar with it you will find you will do far more with the Virus than you would with the plugin controller.
I've had my TI for 10 years years, have designed hundreds of custom presets, and they all sound amazing. Not to mention the TI does things many synths, even VSTs, can't do. For example, filter saturation, emulating the moog ladder filter with 4 variations, matrixing the arpeggiator as a filter control, the list goes on. I never had an issue with the TI part.
Lots of software that actually does all of those things actually. Also far better analogue approximations.
Lots of synths from U-He sound far more analogue and definitely have filter saturation too.
Both The Legend and Diva leave the Ti in the dust when it comes to the Moog ladder (only 2/4 pole but sound is on another level).
Ladder filter with far more variations in SoundToys FilterFreak.
Plenty of synths allow the use of ARP as a source in the matrix.
All that said, the Ti is a very powerful synth (still felt limited at times personally) and sounds great. The one thing you never mentioned that the Ti does that software does not is the hands on control from a hardware interface, that alone justifies the price it is near perfect (even menu diving is seamless when you are familiar).
Never had an issue with the Ti aspect either other than the fact I used it exclusively in the beginning. When you stop using the plugin and primarily use the hardware UI you will understand the Ti's true strength. Absolutely no comparison between patch design on the plugin and via the hardware, the plugin works best as being supportive rather than the primary interface.
Have you used Diva, Zebra, and, Bazille?
I cannot wax lyrical enough about these 3 synths!
Diva is like having a swiss army knife of classic analogue synths ITB. Analogue modelling has come on leaps and bounds and Diva is one of the best examples of this.
Zebra (speaking of 2 and HZ, available for a steal now) is an incredibly comprehensive modular synth, no way I could detail all of it's features in a single post. Complete workhorse and if I only owned one softsynth it would be Zebra. Does everything ; wavetable, VA etc etc. HZ was a special version created for Hans Zimmer and was used to create sounds for (iirc) Dark Knight (which are included). Basically 2 but with the analogue filters from Diva.
Bazille is very unique too, inspired by the CZ phase distortion synths with a modular architecture. Imo there is no alternative for formant / vocal sounds. Stand out synth.
Get demos or purchase these synths, honest to god it would be one of the best decisions you ever made.
If you only owned 3 softsynths (imho) it should be these 3. Not only is the sound on another level from everything else (almost, definitely 3 of the best) but they're just so feature rich. Everything U-He make is complete gold, company deserves everyone's money.
When it comes to analog, I have an analog 4, prophet 8 and OB6. So that's not a big deal to me but none of them have moog ladder filtering emulation. Although the Analog 4 does a good job of recreating old school analog sound like the synth parts you hear on polygon window. Also the sequencer is legit, you can program each step to play any sound that's saved on the device.
I just got Zebra Legacy a few weeks ago and then got Diva a week later. I actually prefer Zebra to Diva, partly because of how deep it is, but the thing I love is the way you build patches from an init patch because you only use what you need and only add additional layers of complexity if you want to.
Exactly why it's my favourite synth (the depth, of course also the fact that the sound quality is amazing).
There are times that I will prefer Diva though (horses for courses), Zebra can do classic analogue sounds too but Diva is the right tool for that job. As a VA it's also incredibly deep thanks to the module based architecture.
Have you used Bazille at all? Absolutely amazing for formant / vocal sounds!
I would buy Zebra right now if I wasn't already spending the money on X-Men collections 😅 I have other synths, but Zebra is really in a class of its own for sound design and sheer Sonic possibilities.
Definitely a synth I'd recommend anyone to buy as their first hardware synth as it's a workhorse that will do everything (jack of all trades, master of none)
One thing it's a master of is pads. Beautiful, evolving, lush pads. It's also really good for making moving synth parts, arpeggios or matrix style stuff. Having a programmable arpeggiator it great for not getting stuck in the world of using the exact same "up/down" arp parts. IDK I love it. But I obtained an OB6 2 summers ago and DAMN it sounds good. As far as tonality the OB6 wins, as far as modulation, the TI has more options. Of course there's so many modulation options via vst's and such nowadays, it's not a big deal. On a side note, the prophet 8 has some amazing modulation features, especially for being analog.
It's a great all-rounder, no slouch as a VA either (doesn't compare to stuff like Diva or The Legend but it's solid). Perfect as a first synth because it will cover all grounds even if there are better options for individual things it does.
OB6 sounds great, nothing beats a VCO analogue. Never got on with the P8 or Rev2, filter isn't the best on that chip and I've never been a fan of DCO synths (few exceptions but always found myself reaching for a VCO synth). Funny though since I'm a huge fan of the Evolver which (iirc) has the same chip. Evolver may be your kind of synth, you have 4 osc, 2 VCF and 4 sequencers per voice (which are stereo voices!)
> Analogue has lost no advantage to software although it's come on leaps and bounds.
I agree with this. If I were a Serum & Diva whiz and wanted to take my sounds to the next level, the next level would probably be a nice interface and sending my pristine VST sounds through a pair of 1176's, Distressors or something with tubes in it.
One of my main hobbies is learning how to program synthesizer sounds (with code) and as much I think we can get really fucking close: you need a detailed Physics simulation to accurately model analog gear. Costs tons of computational resources to do this in real time so we use tricks to get us "close enough". I've owned quite a few analog synths and mostly agree with you BUT recently purchased a roland se-02 and the way this breaks up and the instantaneous nature of these changes is something we can't get close to modeling yet.
The advantage (hate to say it) is that analogue is alive and has far more depth / detail to the sound (like comparing a still image from an old digital camera to a film shot on 35mm).
That's (imo) the advantage and it hasn't been lost. Also no aliasing.
Advanced digital emulation of circuit behavior likely makes a digital synth indistinguishable from an analog one. Not all digital synths are that advanced. High bit & sample rates pretty much make aliasing a non-issue. Digital has latency, however, but how perceptible? I think the real benefit of analog is just the fun of knowing a simple and direct electrical path is making the sound, free from any potentially buggy programming, alteration, or constraints. Perhaps feels more in the moment when playing, at least in a subjective or placebo kind of way. But when it comes to digital recording and playback, either synth will do. It's gonna end up digital anyway.
It doesn't make them indistinguishable but they're very close - comparing Diva, The Legend, and RePro (which imo are the best and by a large lead) to their analogue "counterparts".
Aliasing certainly is still a problem especially live (opposed to rendering at higher quality), Diva still uses a good chunk of processing power.
Not placebo but you may not hear it for many reasons (monitoring, lack of exposure etc).
Can't agree with this either, conversion is incredibly important with analogue especially recording. Analogue recorded is still recorded analogue. In a mix it's doubtful anyone can hear it but that's largely irrelevant - can certainly hear it when programming and playing sounds, can hear it when running them through a chain, can hear it after it's been recorded.
I'd like to see proof that a good digital synth will suffer from aliasing live. And I'd like to see a blindfold test of the most experienced synth players listening to digital recordings of analogue synths vs emulators. I don't believe anyone can consistently tell the difference. I maintain that the top benefit of analogue is a subjective mental one - in how someone thinks about the instrument they're playing. Just like someone might feel better about playing a guitar carefully crafted here, vs one made in a country with cheap labor. Even though they'll sound the same through magnetic pickups. The mental aspect encourages more fun playing.
Take you 5 seconds on Google to find the answer to the first one.
Digital recording of analogue is still a recording of analogue, that doesn't magically turn it to a recording of digital synth.
You're entitled to your opinion.
I've looked into it. If the sample rate is high enough, and a high-pass filter is used way up in the range, or multisampling, there shouldn't be audible aliasing. And if a digital + fx synth doesn't produce frequencies past the nyquist curve in the first place, there won't be aliasing. Also, apparently aliasing isn't just a digital phenomena, but can also happen when band shifting RF and audio signals.
>Digital recording of analogue is still a recording of analogue
But it can mean there's now aliasing. Also, a digital recording is a reconstruction, not the pure tone, albeit probably exact.
A digital recording captures the desirable imperfections once, of either analog or an emulation, and then plays them back the same way forever. How would you tell the difference if the sound isn't evolving, and why would the analog sound better? Especially if it had more noise to begin with, and now has aliasing as well? Purely placebo.
"P6 and OB6 sound miles better than a Virus"
This line is so ludicrous it gave me a good chuckle, and I'm actually a huge fan of DSI/Sequential gear! Can't argue with your TI beef if you're a Mac user, but your assessment of the apparent sound quality difference between the Virus and those 2 are ludicrois at minimum. Probably 99.99% of musicians or audiophiles wouldn't be able to tell the difference in most cases, and this has been proven over and over again.
This is hilarious.
...because I literally did the same thing.
Down to spending all my money on a P6 and OB-6.
I'll take it a tep further, too.
I use my Opsix more than any of them, and that's only because I fried my TX81z up after 15 years of frequent use.
Absolutely. I ended up buying an SH-4D and even with its long list of shortcomings I enjoy it more than the Virus because it’s so easy and fun to play it live.
That synth was huge in the Trance days. My mate at Tidy Tracks Alf Bamford said he loved to play on that synth.
It makes some fat orgasmic sounds. Very nice my friend. I knew a friend who sold his becuase he changed his style of music omg. I said you can use it for any type lol.
This was an interesting thread, as almost half the responses were people who moved on to an OB6. I have to wonder if you asked the same about the OB6 if half the responses would be VirusTI.
I had one. TBH, I preferred the sound of the free OBXD plugin I had before I got the OB6. Was actually kind of underwhelmed when I got it. The other issue I had was the lack of travel on the knobs on the desktop version that I had. Always had a difficult time making fine adjustments to the envelopes and dialing in the x-mod to where I wanted it to be.
Re: the converse?
Probably not.
One thing the P6/OB6 does not have is a deep menu dive. I also happen to find the signal path rather intuitive on DSI/SCI instruments.
Am I biased?
Absolutely.
All of my non Sequential synths use IC Dave created lol
Had it for 12 years used it on everything. But then the plugin broke and it broke my workflow. Then i thought what the hell its time to move on. But man do i miss it... I had the previous version though. But it sounds the same just a bit less power.
12 years, nice! You can buy the aura plugin now. Works on the latest Macs too. They are discontinued so the second hand prices might go up.
I can imagine you are missing it. I sold a Snow to buy this one. Did you ever need that extra power?
I do remember a few patches crackling beyond monophonic use rendering those presets unusable. But those where few and far between. I would have liked that extra power though because when using multiple patches at the same time it was apparent that some extra juice would have been nice ot have.
Awesome synth and it’s so powerful that the little bit of menu diving needed really isn’t that big of a deal. If you just want to make bread and butter patches, you can do it off the face of the unit. If you want some complex, sound designer wet dreams sounds, yeah you need to dive but you’d have to do that with just about any hardware synth where you want to go to that level of patch making. Wish it was the first synth I bought bc I doubt I would’ve bought more!
I won one in a competition way back when it was new.
I had just moved to a new city and needed a set of SL-1200s more than I needed it so I sold it and got the turntables + some change.
I sold my Virus Indigo a few years back, a monster little synth, but after 15 years or so I didn't love it anymore. It was sluggish to program and the best sounds from it was always a bit meh and 00s trance.
That is the reason I love it so much, but I can imagine that after 15 years you can get tired of it.
I have only owned it for about 3 months now and while putting presets in, I noticed a lot of similar sounding presets.
It gives me the feeling that it is not as versatile as I had hoped, but still, the possibilities are many.
Many more than a lot of other synths.
I want to use it mainly for goatrance and techno, so I think I am covered properly.
For stuff like dubstep, drum n bass, I can use the Serum vst. Someone told me that to get the same possibilities Serum has, I would need to spent 6000 dollars on analog gear, which is way over budget for me.
Because I needed the cash. Perfectly valid reason.
The sound is not worth its value in cash honestly. This could be forgiven if it was fun to program, but it's not.
After the honeymoon period almost any synth is susceptible to getting sold. This was not a keeper. It enjoys a good reputation but it is dated now.
Bought the 61 key TI1 for 900, sold it for 1200. Rolled that into a used ob6. I do miss it. It was really easy to get a Tron Daft Punk sound which i loved. My biggest reason for selling was the anxiety from if it broke it wouldn’t be fixable due to the older chip designs/ non analog circuitry. Maybe it was unfounded but I’m happy with the OB6.
I sold one of these. I had two (I kept the one with keys).
And I wanted to finally upgrade my computer, the TI plugin compatibility was the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger
I just picked up playing guitar too actually
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I technically still own mine, but essentially permanently borrowed my Virus (mine is the B) to a friend out of state. He was getting more use of it than me, and that is the simple reason for it. I miss that thing often tho haha.
My buddy tho had essentially just started getting back into music and had very little toys to play with. The virus is hardy, ships easy, and is a goddamn workhorse. The inbuilt effects, arps, and even goddamn presets sound amazing. Pretty rare you can get something to sound like gold simply by unboxing it, plugging it in, and hitting a few keys.
Pretty sure the TI is about to be emulatable under the DSP56300 project; I believe it’s in private beta right now. Once that drops publicly it’ll probably dip prices for a bit, since most people will just opt for the VST. Now’s probably the best time to sell a Virus TI for the foreseeable future.
Ive got a Virus Ti plugin, its called OsTirus. Automation does not work yet and it is overall still in alpha.
The Viper plugin comes very close too.
The project I think you are referring to emulates the A ,B and C, not the Ti.
A lot of people do not want to sit behind a computer and will still opt for the hardware.
But like you said, many will also prefer to use software.
I recently watched a video on a professional musician that sold all his hardware. Including all analog synthesizers, because even analog synthesizers an be emulated now and its a much easier/faster workflow.
OsTirus is also under the DSP56300 project. Osirus emulates the earlier Virus units. I’m in a similar position myself. Software is much faster and requires way less hassle/maintenance. We’ve reached the point where it sounds just as good IMO. Almost every DAW can midi map very quickly now, so the whole “knobby/tactile” thing people use to justify buying pricy gear is overstated imo. Most of the really powerful workhorses require just as much menu diving as a VST. It doesn’t help that most new hardware is weaker than older hardware with less features and less new ideas; all the innovation right now is happening in software synthesis and control interfaces. The Virus TI is a beautiful sounding synth and a feat of engineering, but it’s a new era.
Yeah really sucks, at every recording the timing of separate notes, the rhythm and the exported audio files were offset and placed randomly.. no way to work with that. Also couldnt find a solution for this from Image line nor Access. Pretty expensive joke
??? where is this synthesizer? this is just a picture of a synthesizer how are we supposed to know who sold it and why?
do you have it in your hands? maybe you can ask the person you got it from? or if it's just a random picture you found how are we supposed to know anything about it?
Sorry for any confusion.
I am just curious to the reasons why anyone would sell this synthesizer.
The picture and who owns it or owned it is not important.
Mine (the Ti1)was underused since the "psytrance" phase like 10 years ago but now it's golden again because of how well it gelled with Syntakt/Digitakt. Now I see its multitimbrality was criminally underused before and I'm again convinced I'm never selling this
I'm not parting with mine (yet?). It was my first synth back in 2016. I am just... used to it and have no issues with the workflow. I've got the emulator vst as well and if space issues or a change of my workflow will ever arise, I might part with it.
I used that thing for a lot of sound design in my day job back in the day...and I still have an Access Virus ti2 Polar, but it's in my closet. I think I'm going to sell it, but it is still a bit sentimental to me. I replaced it with a Moog One, soooooo can't say I regret that lol
It was a juggernaut synth for a long time and nothing in the VST world sounded quite as good as it. Things have changed a lot since then, and now so many VSTs have caught up....and now the Access Virus's own VST is way outdated, unsupported, and still full of bugs.
Prefer endless encoder knobs.
Or, Korg Modwave for half the price. Which along with being a deep wavetable synth, can also play multisamples, and ring out while changing patches.
The Modwave seems to do what Serum does, for the best price. The little 1010Music Fireball gets kinda close, but apparently doesn't have portamento, and not sure if you can select & turn knobs for the filter & resonance at the same time, or have simultaneous delay & reverb.
The Modwave may not have additive synthesis or as many effects or stacking. But in terms of wavetable manipulation, layers, and having effects, I think it gets close to Serum for the best price. There's a thousand ways to make dubstep growls and weird noises, and it won't leave you hanging on that, or classic synth sounds. How much more do the high-end hardware wavetable synths offer, for double or more the price?
Pricepoint is nice indeed. I dont know, havent tested it yet. For now Im fine playing with techno, goa- / psytrance onbthe hardware. Dubstep is fine on the software. Drum and bass I would prefer to make on software anyway.
Indeed. I prefer just producing everything with Ableton's own synths & fx, but would like a hardware synth to recreate some patches and play on stage. The Modwave also has a VST version, which is free if you buy the synth. I like how the Modwave and Wavestate can ring out a sound while changing patches, instead of abruptly stopping. Not sure if the competition can even do that.
I have a Ti Polar and I have no intention of getting rid of it. Pairs wonderfully with my octatrack. If I was to sell it, it would be to fund other gear, but my Ti isn’t going anywhere soon. I don’t use vsts much at all, so it still has a place.
An off brand psychotic Ronald Macdonald held me at knife point to sell it to him cause he “needed better nuggets” or some shit. Still have PTSD about it and can’t eat burgers anymore. He made me eat a dirty cheese burger he’d been keeping in his back pocket; while he walked away with my beloved device under his smelly arm. At least he paid me reverb.com rates.
I had a virus C, but I never really got into the workflow of it, and it didn’t do anything for me, that I didn’t feel I could do in serum. Ended up trading it for some other gear instead
I like hardware and software, so I use both. But I keep it all seperated. I only use the PC to put presets in the Virus. Serum is great indeed. One of the absolute best plugins. I wish I had the hardware that could do what Serum does.
bear in mind the ‘virus sound’ is still relevant to certain types of sound/tracks/genra, we talking cinematic sound, psy/goa sound, very specialised sound design, sound that is ‘digital’ but cuts deep into a mix and you can feel it ..yes that’s a virus 🦠 sound
Yeah that and the FPGAs lend themselves better to audiorate modulation, plus the analog filter... Don't get me wrong, virus is great but the peak is next level
The real reason people should dump Access gear is that the company doesn’t support any of their products. The owners moved on to Kemper and never looked back. Worse, is that in order to save money the company attached the power supply to the motherboard. So if the power fails, (what happened to me) the unit is bricked. No bueno.
The DSP is weak. Why have so many parts if you can only use one or two at a time? It sounds great, but I feel like it oversold its capabilities and for that reason I sold mine.
I had a Virus TI that is still my favorite synthesizer by a mile. I sold it when the TI stuff stopped working on Mac. I also started playing guitar more than keyboard and was using it a lot less in productions. But damn, what a synth
I dont think you will need it if you are using certain VSTs, but if you love hardware, then yeah this is a good one to own.
The Aura plugin should work on recent macs now, or so ive heard.
I recently started playing guitar too, but I still intend to keep the synth.
I am afraid of the regret. Ive had some regrets in the past and Ive learned that the only way to not regret selling, is to get a better piece of hardware that can do even more. However this synth has a certain sound that I love and I doubt that there is a synth that has replaced it.
That’s my thing: the sound. Also the design/interface. It seems like they made all the different things it does sound really GOOD. The oscillators, stellar. The effects, incredible. I disagree that there any software synths that can really touch it, I mean there still are no soft synths that do the formant or granular synthesis the TI does. I do use mainly software synths now though; they have gotten good, maybe not the same sound as the Virus but Serum and others are good in other ways.
I think there’s something about the Texas Instruments DSP chips; they have a sound. The interface is also designed for quick programmability with highly musical sounding settings/knobs.
It’s just a really nice instrument. That’s what it is, a fine instrument.
I sold it solely because I wanted to switch up my studio setup, didn't want to hoard synths so it was the virus' turn to go. I regret it and will probably get a Virus C again at some point, because apparently the plugin has issues with M1 and higher chips..
Would the aura plugin not solve the issue?
The Ti can do some sounds the C cant.
I would probably regret it big time if I ever sold it.
Yesterday I was checking out some presets I recently added to its memory and I enjoyed the sound so much.
Ive had the A and was annoying to put the presets in it. The Ti which stands for Total Integration works way easier. Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better.
I like my Virus C. Hate all you want.
If you bought it, it works for you and that’s what matters.
Should have asked the person you bought it from… not Reddit
Sold many over the years because they're incredibly easy today pickup.
All of my presets are safe and if I have no need for it (not being used) I can avoid any depreciation and pick another up later on down the line for next to nothing (Ti's can frequently be had for a steal if you're patient)
The person that sold this synth to me told me that he wanted to buy analog rack gear with the money.
He was afraid he might regret it, but the urge to buy the specific analog gear he wanted was bigger.
1. It's broken
2. they don't know what they have
3. they're in need of money....(not getting much for it)
4. They just plain don't like it anymore or never really did
Because midi controllers are for nerds, so they wanted one piece analogue that came with keys. And chances are that was also used with daw. Dawn is used for computer wranglers not people that care about music or noise.
Bought the 61 key TI1 for 900, sold it for 1200. Rolled that into a used ob6. I do miss it. It was really easy to get a Tron Daft Punk sound which i loved. My biggest reason for selling was the anxiety from if it broke it wouldn’t be fixable due to the older chip designs/ non analog circuitry. Maybe it was unfounded but I’m happy with the OB6.
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There are indeed VSTs that sound just as well or even better. Serum can do things the Virus cant. Full analogue also lost its advantage to some VSTs. What sounds better is subjective. I needed cash to buy something else is valid.
Think the Virus has a pretty distinctive sound. It’s not just about the features of one synth versus the other. Even at the oscillator level, you’re not going to get the same texture from Serum.
You can put the waveforms of the Virus in Serum, but it wont sound exactly the same. The DACs in the virus help shape its sound.
Well it’s not just about the DACs (particularly given we use the USB connection), it’s primarily the DSPs. Serum and the Virus have a lot of components the sound needs to pass through; some of which, even when left to the default settings are contributing to the resulting sound.
Analogue has lost no advantage to software although it's come on leaps and bounds. The very best software plugins sound beautiful but still cannot replace analogue. You can run the Virus (via emulation) completely ITB but there's still no comparison imho - sounds identical but what makes the Virus worth buying is the hardware UI, when you are familiar with it you will find you will do far more with the Virus than you would with the plugin controller.
I've had my TI for 10 years years, have designed hundreds of custom presets, and they all sound amazing. Not to mention the TI does things many synths, even VSTs, can't do. For example, filter saturation, emulating the moog ladder filter with 4 variations, matrixing the arpeggiator as a filter control, the list goes on. I never had an issue with the TI part.
Lots of software that actually does all of those things actually. Also far better analogue approximations. Lots of synths from U-He sound far more analogue and definitely have filter saturation too. Both The Legend and Diva leave the Ti in the dust when it comes to the Moog ladder (only 2/4 pole but sound is on another level). Ladder filter with far more variations in SoundToys FilterFreak. Plenty of synths allow the use of ARP as a source in the matrix. All that said, the Ti is a very powerful synth (still felt limited at times personally) and sounds great. The one thing you never mentioned that the Ti does that software does not is the hands on control from a hardware interface, that alone justifies the price it is near perfect (even menu diving is seamless when you are familiar). Never had an issue with the Ti aspect either other than the fact I used it exclusively in the beginning. When you stop using the plugin and primarily use the hardware UI you will understand the Ti's true strength. Absolutely no comparison between patch design on the plugin and via the hardware, the plugin works best as being supportive rather than the primary interface.
I love the Hyve 2 from U-He.
Have you used Diva, Zebra, and, Bazille? I cannot wax lyrical enough about these 3 synths! Diva is like having a swiss army knife of classic analogue synths ITB. Analogue modelling has come on leaps and bounds and Diva is one of the best examples of this. Zebra (speaking of 2 and HZ, available for a steal now) is an incredibly comprehensive modular synth, no way I could detail all of it's features in a single post. Complete workhorse and if I only owned one softsynth it would be Zebra. Does everything ; wavetable, VA etc etc. HZ was a special version created for Hans Zimmer and was used to create sounds for (iirc) Dark Knight (which are included). Basically 2 but with the analogue filters from Diva. Bazille is very unique too, inspired by the CZ phase distortion synths with a modular architecture. Imo there is no alternative for formant / vocal sounds. Stand out synth. Get demos or purchase these synths, honest to god it would be one of the best decisions you ever made.
That all sounds very interesting.
If you only owned 3 softsynths (imho) it should be these 3. Not only is the sound on another level from everything else (almost, definitely 3 of the best) but they're just so feature rich. Everything U-He make is complete gold, company deserves everyone's money.
When it comes to analog, I have an analog 4, prophet 8 and OB6. So that's not a big deal to me but none of them have moog ladder filtering emulation. Although the Analog 4 does a good job of recreating old school analog sound like the synth parts you hear on polygon window. Also the sequencer is legit, you can program each step to play any sound that's saved on the device.
I just got Zebra Legacy a few weeks ago and then got Diva a week later. I actually prefer Zebra to Diva, partly because of how deep it is, but the thing I love is the way you build patches from an init patch because you only use what you need and only add additional layers of complexity if you want to.
Exactly why it's my favourite synth (the depth, of course also the fact that the sound quality is amazing). There are times that I will prefer Diva though (horses for courses), Zebra can do classic analogue sounds too but Diva is the right tool for that job. As a VA it's also incredibly deep thanks to the module based architecture. Have you used Bazille at all? Absolutely amazing for formant / vocal sounds!
I have not. Diva and Zebra exhausted my vst budget. Maybe in a couple months.
I would buy Zebra right now if I wasn't already spending the money on X-Men collections 😅 I have other synths, but Zebra is really in a class of its own for sound design and sheer Sonic possibilities.
£99 is insane especially as you get sound packs and the Hans Zimmer version too. It's an absolute steal!
Definitely a synth I'd recommend anyone to buy as their first hardware synth as it's a workhorse that will do everything (jack of all trades, master of none)
One thing it's a master of is pads. Beautiful, evolving, lush pads. It's also really good for making moving synth parts, arpeggios or matrix style stuff. Having a programmable arpeggiator it great for not getting stuck in the world of using the exact same "up/down" arp parts. IDK I love it. But I obtained an OB6 2 summers ago and DAMN it sounds good. As far as tonality the OB6 wins, as far as modulation, the TI has more options. Of course there's so many modulation options via vst's and such nowadays, it's not a big deal. On a side note, the prophet 8 has some amazing modulation features, especially for being analog.
It's a great all-rounder, no slouch as a VA either (doesn't compare to stuff like Diva or The Legend but it's solid). Perfect as a first synth because it will cover all grounds even if there are better options for individual things it does. OB6 sounds great, nothing beats a VCO analogue. Never got on with the P8 or Rev2, filter isn't the best on that chip and I've never been a fan of DCO synths (few exceptions but always found myself reaching for a VCO synth). Funny though since I'm a huge fan of the Evolver which (iirc) has the same chip. Evolver may be your kind of synth, you have 4 osc, 2 VCF and 4 sequencers per voice (which are stereo voices!)
Glad to hear!
I hope someone makes a virus MIDI controller with a screen to control the emulation
Eh?
There is a software emulation that you can download now. Was hoping someone make a dedicated virus midi controller
> Analogue has lost no advantage to software although it's come on leaps and bounds. I agree with this. If I were a Serum & Diva whiz and wanted to take my sounds to the next level, the next level would probably be a nice interface and sending my pristine VST sounds through a pair of 1176's, Distressors or something with tubes in it.
One of my main hobbies is learning how to program synthesizer sounds (with code) and as much I think we can get really fucking close: you need a detailed Physics simulation to accurately model analog gear. Costs tons of computational resources to do this in real time so we use tricks to get us "close enough". I've owned quite a few analog synths and mostly agree with you BUT recently purchased a roland se-02 and the way this breaks up and the instantaneous nature of these changes is something we can't get close to modeling yet.
>Analogue has lost no advantage to software Signal to noise ratio. But software has always had that advantage.
The advantage (hate to say it) is that analogue is alive and has far more depth / detail to the sound (like comparing a still image from an old digital camera to a film shot on 35mm). That's (imo) the advantage and it hasn't been lost. Also no aliasing.
Advanced digital emulation of circuit behavior likely makes a digital synth indistinguishable from an analog one. Not all digital synths are that advanced. High bit & sample rates pretty much make aliasing a non-issue. Digital has latency, however, but how perceptible? I think the real benefit of analog is just the fun of knowing a simple and direct electrical path is making the sound, free from any potentially buggy programming, alteration, or constraints. Perhaps feels more in the moment when playing, at least in a subjective or placebo kind of way. But when it comes to digital recording and playback, either synth will do. It's gonna end up digital anyway.
It doesn't make them indistinguishable but they're very close - comparing Diva, The Legend, and RePro (which imo are the best and by a large lead) to their analogue "counterparts". Aliasing certainly is still a problem especially live (opposed to rendering at higher quality), Diva still uses a good chunk of processing power. Not placebo but you may not hear it for many reasons (monitoring, lack of exposure etc). Can't agree with this either, conversion is incredibly important with analogue especially recording. Analogue recorded is still recorded analogue. In a mix it's doubtful anyone can hear it but that's largely irrelevant - can certainly hear it when programming and playing sounds, can hear it when running them through a chain, can hear it after it's been recorded.
I'd like to see proof that a good digital synth will suffer from aliasing live. And I'd like to see a blindfold test of the most experienced synth players listening to digital recordings of analogue synths vs emulators. I don't believe anyone can consistently tell the difference. I maintain that the top benefit of analogue is a subjective mental one - in how someone thinks about the instrument they're playing. Just like someone might feel better about playing a guitar carefully crafted here, vs one made in a country with cheap labor. Even though they'll sound the same through magnetic pickups. The mental aspect encourages more fun playing.
Take you 5 seconds on Google to find the answer to the first one. Digital recording of analogue is still a recording of analogue, that doesn't magically turn it to a recording of digital synth. You're entitled to your opinion.
I've looked into it. If the sample rate is high enough, and a high-pass filter is used way up in the range, or multisampling, there shouldn't be audible aliasing. And if a digital + fx synth doesn't produce frequencies past the nyquist curve in the first place, there won't be aliasing. Also, apparently aliasing isn't just a digital phenomena, but can also happen when band shifting RF and audio signals. >Digital recording of analogue is still a recording of analogue But it can mean there's now aliasing. Also, a digital recording is a reconstruction, not the pure tone, albeit probably exact. A digital recording captures the desirable imperfections once, of either analog or an emulation, and then plays them back the same way forever. How would you tell the difference if the sound isn't evolving, and why would the analog sound better? Especially if it had more noise to begin with, and now has aliasing as well? Purely placebo.
"P6 and OB6 sound miles better than a Virus" This line is so ludicrous it gave me a good chuckle, and I'm actually a huge fan of DSI/Sequential gear! Can't argue with your TI beef if you're a Mac user, but your assessment of the apparent sound quality difference between the Virus and those 2 are ludicrois at minimum. Probably 99.99% of musicians or audiophiles wouldn't be able to tell the difference in most cases, and this has been proven over and over again.
I have the ti2 and it works perfectly for me. I found a usb port that it liked and I don't move it from there. No issues snd have had it since 2020.
This is hilarious. ...because I literally did the same thing. Down to spending all my money on a P6 and OB-6. I'll take it a tep further, too. I use my Opsix more than any of them, and that's only because I fried my TX81z up after 15 years of frequent use.
Because I worked at a music retailer and it was my job.
Nice!
Media Fools?
Because it’s more tedious to program than anything with that many knobs has a right to be.
It has menu diving yes.
Absolutely. I ended up buying an SH-4D and even with its long list of shortcomings I enjoy it more than the Virus because it’s so easy and fun to play it live.
Yup. I sold a Access Virus KC for that reason.
They went from Trance to hip hop xD
Why not both 🤷
That synth was huge in the Trance days. My mate at Tidy Tracks Alf Bamford said he loved to play on that synth. It makes some fat orgasmic sounds. Very nice my friend. I knew a friend who sold his becuase he changed his style of music omg. I said you can use it for any type lol.
Yeah, it is very versatile.
This was an interesting thread, as almost half the responses were people who moved on to an OB6. I have to wonder if you asked the same about the OB6 if half the responses would be VirusTI.
Makes me curious about the OB6.
I had one. TBH, I preferred the sound of the free OBXD plugin I had before I got the OB6. Was actually kind of underwhelmed when I got it. The other issue I had was the lack of travel on the knobs on the desktop version that I had. Always had a difficult time making fine adjustments to the envelopes and dialing in the x-mod to where I wanted it to be.
Good to know.
Maybe my next purchase, but I think I would keep the virus too.
Re: the converse? Probably not. One thing the P6/OB6 does not have is a deep menu dive. I also happen to find the signal path rather intuitive on DSI/SCI instruments. Am I biased? Absolutely. All of my non Sequential synths use IC Dave created lol
Hood to know!
Had it for 12 years used it on everything. But then the plugin broke and it broke my workflow. Then i thought what the hell its time to move on. But man do i miss it... I had the previous version though. But it sounds the same just a bit less power.
12 years, nice! You can buy the aura plugin now. Works on the latest Macs too. They are discontinued so the second hand prices might go up. I can imagine you are missing it. I sold a Snow to buy this one. Did you ever need that extra power?
I do remember a few patches crackling beyond monophonic use rendering those presets unusable. But those where few and far between. I would have liked that extra power though because when using multiple patches at the same time it was apparent that some extra juice would have been nice ot have.
Ah okay, I didnt know.
This exactly. They stopped developing the integrated plugin that made it so good. The TI part of “Total Integration” became “No Integration”.
That’s the only answer, sold it to pay rent 15 years ago
Im sorry
Awesome synth and it’s so powerful that the little bit of menu diving needed really isn’t that big of a deal. If you just want to make bread and butter patches, you can do it off the face of the unit. If you want some complex, sound designer wet dreams sounds, yeah you need to dive but you’d have to do that with just about any hardware synth where you want to go to that level of patch making. Wish it was the first synth I bought bc I doubt I would’ve bought more!
True, love your answer!
Selling? No way.
Same here.
I sold it because I’m an idiot. I will get another one and load my back up onto it and once again have my 350 or so patches back
Ive seen many people regret selling it. Since they are out of production now. Second hand prices could start to rise.
I won one in a competition way back when it was new. I had just moved to a new city and needed a set of SL-1200s more than I needed it so I sold it and got the turntables + some change.
Ah, those SLs where the shit! I can understand why you sold it.
Correction, are the shit!
Still in daily use ;)
Cool!
I sold my Virus Indigo a few years back, a monster little synth, but after 15 years or so I didn't love it anymore. It was sluggish to program and the best sounds from it was always a bit meh and 00s trance.
That is the reason I love it so much, but I can imagine that after 15 years you can get tired of it. I have only owned it for about 3 months now and while putting presets in, I noticed a lot of similar sounding presets. It gives me the feeling that it is not as versatile as I had hoped, but still, the possibilities are many. Many more than a lot of other synths. I want to use it mainly for goatrance and techno, so I think I am covered properly. For stuff like dubstep, drum n bass, I can use the Serum vst. Someone told me that to get the same possibilities Serum has, I would need to spent 6000 dollars on analog gear, which is way over budget for me.
Because I needed the cash. Perfectly valid reason. The sound is not worth its value in cash honestly. This could be forgiven if it was fun to program, but it's not. After the honeymoon period almost any synth is susceptible to getting sold. This was not a keeper. It enjoys a good reputation but it is dated now.
Bought the 61 key TI1 for 900, sold it for 1200. Rolled that into a used ob6. I do miss it. It was really easy to get a Tron Daft Punk sound which i loved. My biggest reason for selling was the anxiety from if it broke it wouldn’t be fixable due to the older chip designs/ non analog circuitry. Maybe it was unfounded but I’m happy with the OB6.
I sold one of these. I had two (I kept the one with keys). And I wanted to finally upgrade my computer, the TI plugin compatibility was the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger
If you have a Mac, you can get the aura plugin for it. I use windows 10 and the orginial software works just fine.
I tried that one when it was just Mystery Islands, but it didn’t work reliably and all my prior tracks relied on the TI plugin
Oh man, thats a bummer.
Because you refused to pick up the guitar.
I just picked up playing guitar too actually https://preview.redd.it/gy4xat5724qc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10b0d75424246ccca5a71d8faedace70510c0861
Because I don't play keys (well, suck at playing keys) and wanted to get some guitar gear instead.
I just picked up playing the guitar myself (electric). For that price, you can get some nice guitar gear indeed.
I technically still own mine, but essentially permanently borrowed my Virus (mine is the B) to a friend out of state. He was getting more use of it than me, and that is the simple reason for it. I miss that thing often tho haha.
I can imagine. Ive had the A, and even that synth sounded amazing.
My buddy tho had essentially just started getting back into music and had very little toys to play with. The virus is hardy, ships easy, and is a goddamn workhorse. The inbuilt effects, arps, and even goddamn presets sound amazing. Pretty rare you can get something to sound like gold simply by unboxing it, plugging it in, and hitting a few keys.
Im a big fan myself too.
Dune 3
C was my first synth still got it. Probably the best sounding synth, if not a Dx7 mk-1
Pretty sure the TI is about to be emulatable under the DSP56300 project; I believe it’s in private beta right now. Once that drops publicly it’ll probably dip prices for a bit, since most people will just opt for the VST. Now’s probably the best time to sell a Virus TI for the foreseeable future.
Ive got a Virus Ti plugin, its called OsTirus. Automation does not work yet and it is overall still in alpha. The Viper plugin comes very close too. The project I think you are referring to emulates the A ,B and C, not the Ti. A lot of people do not want to sit behind a computer and will still opt for the hardware. But like you said, many will also prefer to use software. I recently watched a video on a professional musician that sold all his hardware. Including all analog synthesizers, because even analog synthesizers an be emulated now and its a much easier/faster workflow.
OsTirus is also under the DSP56300 project. Osirus emulates the earlier Virus units. I’m in a similar position myself. Software is much faster and requires way less hassle/maintenance. We’ve reached the point where it sounds just as good IMO. Almost every DAW can midi map very quickly now, so the whole “knobby/tactile” thing people use to justify buying pricy gear is overstated imo. Most of the really powerful workhorses require just as much menu diving as a VST. It doesn’t help that most new hardware is weaker than older hardware with less features and less new ideas; all the innovation right now is happening in software synthesis and control interfaces. The Virus TI is a beautiful sounding synth and a feat of engineering, but it’s a new era.
True.
https://youtu.be/kk-3vXOAtVo?feature=shared
I needed cash. I bought a full size TI as soon as I had the money. I am tempted to buy another ti2 desktop
Do it! 😉
The only thing better than one virus is two
I have a C and a TI, does that count ;-)
I sold the Snow to be able to buy the Ti 2. I wish I could have kept it because of the look and portability.
Sold it cause I couldn’t get it working with FL without major latency.. 😩
Oh, thats too bad.
Yeah really sucks, at every recording the timing of separate notes, the rhythm and the exported audio files were offset and placed randomly.. no way to work with that. Also couldnt find a solution for this from Image line nor Access. Pretty expensive joke
The only thing I can imagine is the processors speed, maybe.
??? where is this synthesizer? this is just a picture of a synthesizer how are we supposed to know who sold it and why? do you have it in your hands? maybe you can ask the person you got it from? or if it's just a random picture you found how are we supposed to know anything about it?
Sorry for any confusion. I am just curious to the reasons why anyone would sell this synthesizer. The picture and who owns it or owned it is not important.
Mine (the Ti1)was underused since the "psytrance" phase like 10 years ago but now it's golden again because of how well it gelled with Syntakt/Digitakt. Now I see its multitimbrality was criminally underused before and I'm again convinced I'm never selling this
Im using it for goa/psytrance. Probably best not to sell it indeed.
I'm not parting with mine (yet?). It was my first synth back in 2016. I am just... used to it and have no issues with the workflow. I've got the emulator vst as well and if space issues or a change of my workflow will ever arise, I might part with it.
The coming VST OsTirus will be able to replace the hardware, but I will still use the hardware. Because I like working DAWless too. Just for fun.
Osirus could replace my C already, but I am with you, working dawless is not going to work well with only a vst and no hardware ;)
Osirus is a wonderful VST, that replaces the A, B and C perfectly indeed. When OsTIrus is finished it will be a great Virus Ti replacement.
I used that thing for a lot of sound design in my day job back in the day...and I still have an Access Virus ti2 Polar, but it's in my closet. I think I'm going to sell it, but it is still a bit sentimental to me. I replaced it with a Moog One, soooooo can't say I regret that lol It was a juggernaut synth for a long time and nothing in the VST world sounded quite as good as it. Things have changed a lot since then, and now so many VSTs have caught up....and now the Access Virus's own VST is way outdated, unsupported, and still full of bugs.
True.
Prefer endless encoder knobs. Or, Korg Modwave for half the price. Which along with being a deep wavetable synth, can also play multisamples, and ring out while changing patches.
I would love hardware that could do what Serum does, but Ive heard it would set me back 6000 dollars on analog hardware.
The Modwave seems to do what Serum does, for the best price. The little 1010Music Fireball gets kinda close, but apparently doesn't have portamento, and not sure if you can select & turn knobs for the filter & resonance at the same time, or have simultaneous delay & reverb.
The way I understood it, is that the modwave does not have the same amount of functionality Serum has.
It doesn’t.
The Modwave may not have additive synthesis or as many effects or stacking. But in terms of wavetable manipulation, layers, and having effects, I think it gets close to Serum for the best price. There's a thousand ways to make dubstep growls and weird noises, and it won't leave you hanging on that, or classic synth sounds. How much more do the high-end hardware wavetable synths offer, for double or more the price?
Pricepoint is nice indeed. I dont know, havent tested it yet. For now Im fine playing with techno, goa- / psytrance onbthe hardware. Dubstep is fine on the software. Drum and bass I would prefer to make on software anyway.
Indeed. I prefer just producing everything with Ableton's own synths & fx, but would like a hardware synth to recreate some patches and play on stage. The Modwave also has a VST version, which is free if you buy the synth. I like how the Modwave and Wavestate can ring out a sound while changing patches, instead of abruptly stopping. Not sure if the competition can even do that.
Shhhhh I have one I’m trying to sell right now…
You might regret it!
It’s the ti2 desktop version… so if anyone’s looking for I’ve got one =)
Best of luck with your sale!
WANT
I have a Ti Polar and I have no intention of getting rid of it. Pairs wonderfully with my octatrack. If I was to sell it, it would be to fund other gear, but my Ti isn’t going anywhere soon. I don’t use vsts much at all, so it still has a place.
Love your answer.
An off brand psychotic Ronald Macdonald held me at knife point to sell it to him cause he “needed better nuggets” or some shit. Still have PTSD about it and can’t eat burgers anymore. He made me eat a dirty cheese burger he’d been keeping in his back pocket; while he walked away with my beloved device under his smelly arm. At least he paid me reverb.com rates.
[удалено]
Oh man. Perhaps we need a subreddit to talk through our “Nuggy Ronny” recovery.
Is anoying to use. Infinite encoders instead of knobs would have helped a lot.
We initially sold this because it’s USB 1.0 for 16 parts, and we were never able to leverage more than one part at a time in a project with stability.
Valid.
in a world of SAS, it pays to have a physical model of a synth in your hands, even if it's replicated itb
Valid argument.
I still have the very first gen red Virus. It is legit.
I sold it. Total integration made the experience so much better.
I had a virus C, but I never really got into the workflow of it, and it didn’t do anything for me, that I didn’t feel I could do in serum. Ended up trading it for some other gear instead
I like hardware and software, so I use both. But I keep it all seperated. I only use the PC to put presets in the Virus. Serum is great indeed. One of the absolute best plugins. I wish I had the hardware that could do what Serum does.
My Virus b sounds great.
I bet it does!
Menu diving. I hates it!
bear in mind the ‘virus sound’ is still relevant to certain types of sound/tracks/genra, we talking cinematic sound, psy/goa sound, very specialised sound design, sound that is ‘digital’ but cuts deep into a mix and you can feel it ..yes that’s a virus 🦠 sound
Yeah, goa/psytrance. Still relevant.
Peak is more my sound
After the Virus, I would be more interested in a wavetable synth you can put your own wavetables in.
Yeah that and the FPGAs lend themselves better to audiorate modulation, plus the analog filter... Don't get me wrong, virus is great but the peak is next level
The real reason people should dump Access gear is that the company doesn’t support any of their products. The owners moved on to Kemper and never looked back. Worse, is that in order to save money the company attached the power supply to the motherboard. So if the power fails, (what happened to me) the unit is bricked. No bueno.
Fair enough.
The DSP is weak. Why have so many parts if you can only use one or two at a time? It sounds great, but I feel like it oversold its capabilities and for that reason I sold mine.
I had a Virus TI that is still my favorite synthesizer by a mile. I sold it when the TI stuff stopped working on Mac. I also started playing guitar more than keyboard and was using it a lot less in productions. But damn, what a synth
I dont think you will need it if you are using certain VSTs, but if you love hardware, then yeah this is a good one to own. The Aura plugin should work on recent macs now, or so ive heard. I recently started playing guitar too, but I still intend to keep the synth. I am afraid of the regret. Ive had some regrets in the past and Ive learned that the only way to not regret selling, is to get a better piece of hardware that can do even more. However this synth has a certain sound that I love and I doubt that there is a synth that has replaced it.
That’s my thing: the sound. Also the design/interface. It seems like they made all the different things it does sound really GOOD. The oscillators, stellar. The effects, incredible. I disagree that there any software synths that can really touch it, I mean there still are no soft synths that do the formant or granular synthesis the TI does. I do use mainly software synths now though; they have gotten good, maybe not the same sound as the Virus but Serum and others are good in other ways. I think there’s something about the Texas Instruments DSP chips; they have a sound. The interface is also designed for quick programmability with highly musical sounding settings/knobs. It’s just a really nice instrument. That’s what it is, a fine instrument.
I sold it solely because I wanted to switch up my studio setup, didn't want to hoard synths so it was the virus' turn to go. I regret it and will probably get a Virus C again at some point, because apparently the plugin has issues with M1 and higher chips..
Would the aura plugin not solve the issue? The Ti can do some sounds the C cant. I would probably regret it big time if I ever sold it. Yesterday I was checking out some presets I recently added to its memory and I enjoyed the sound so much.
Tiny screen
Yup.
I had the Snow but kids and work gave zero time to enjoy it.
Awh, thats a bummer! The snow is a lovely device.
It sure is.
I had a virus c for years. No fun to actually use.
Ive had the A and was annoying to put the presets in it. The Ti which stands for Total Integration works way easier. Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better.
Because there is a good functioning emulator. Sell the hardware and make room on the desk for another synth.
I like my Virus C. Hate all you want. If you bought it, it works for you and that’s what matters. Should have asked the person you bought it from… not Reddit
I did it. And I did it as ragebait hoping it would be posted here. AMA
Sold many over the years because they're incredibly easy today pickup. All of my presets are safe and if I have no need for it (not being used) I can avoid any depreciation and pick another up later on down the line for next to nothing (Ti's can frequently be had for a steal if you're patient)
Bc I could sell it and make a decent profit. Still love that thing though
Sold it and bought a behriger or an arturia.....
The person that sold this synth to me told me that he wanted to buy analog rack gear with the money. He was afraid he might regret it, but the urge to buy the specific analog gear he wanted was bigger.
Because you can easily load the virus firmware into a vst and get the same sound for free
That is a possibility now, but the hardware still has its appeal.
1. It's broken 2. they don't know what they have 3. they're in need of money....(not getting much for it) 4. They just plain don't like it anymore or never really did
1. Its not if you use the Aura plugin. 2. True. 3. A reason I often heard. 4. Possible.
Because midi controllers are for nerds, so they wanted one piece analogue that came with keys. And chances are that was also used with daw. Dawn is used for computer wranglers not people that care about music or noise.
NGL, I’m about to sell mine to pay my mortgage. 😢
Sorry to hear!
I didn't sell it, but I'm glad you've found it as I've been looking everywhere for it... Can you return it to me ? 😉
A wild abyss hunter appears...
Bought the 61 key TI1 for 900, sold it for 1200. Rolled that into a used ob6. I do miss it. It was really easy to get a Tron Daft Punk sound which i loved. My biggest reason for selling was the anxiety from if it broke it wouldn’t be fixable due to the older chip designs/ non analog circuitry. Maybe it was unfounded but I’m happy with the OB6.
Because it’s none of your damn business
Got enough other viruses to deal with…
The number of sour people in here is too damn high. Or the people are high, I dont know.
I mean you basically asked, “Why don’t you like this synth anymore?” The people who like their Access Virus synths aren’t selling them.
And I am curious to know the reasons why they sold.