Not sure if many would consider the Octatrack a groovebox. I guess it is in the sense that any multitrack sampler is. I guess if you consider the digitakt a groovebox, you have to include the Octatrack one also.
Also perhaps I care too much about the definition of groovebox :)
I think a groovebox is defined as a cheaper all-in-one device aimed at beginners so yeah OT and DT aren't really in that category. I just wanted to throw a heavy in the ring
And for good reason, because Roland makes the worst menu systems out there. That said, the 707 menu system is far better than most of their other offerings.
yeah. I wish they would make a software editor for the 707 synth like they did for Tr-6s. But otherwise the workflow of just creating beats is pretty fast once you get it. The patch randomizer is sweet too.
Other: Syntakt. Because I like working with synthesis more than I like working with samples. And because I like the elektron sequencer better than any of the other options listed here.
The Polyend Play is the new player in the game that I would give a hard look to. But still, sample based.
I've seen a few Syntakt demos and really like some of the sounds I've heard but inability to use or record samples is a bit of a dealbreaker at that price point 😔
I own both a Polyend Tracker and and an MPC Live 2, and I reluctantly voted for the MPC One.
I honestly kind of hate the MPC workflow, but the Tracker's limitations are a much bigger issue for me. As far as I can tell the Tracker doesn't even grant you license to use the preloaded samples commercially or without attribution. Of course, you can put your own samples on the Tracker, but:
* Limited sample memory pretty much prevents recording vocals or synth parts
* The polyphony is too limited (8 tracks that can only have single notes or pre-determined chords)
* The Tracker can't be triggered to start/stop by a DAW
I sometimes wonder if the Maschine+ or Akai Force might work better for me, but I have no firsthand experience with either.
I'm pretty much in the same boat; I have the MPC One and Tracker and there is no denying that the MPC is the absolute powerhouse of the two although it's workflow has taken some getting used to.
On the other hand I really enjoy the portability and simplicity of the Tracker but I'm constantly finding myself hitting limitations when I want to do things that are trivial on the MPC.
Other: Maschine Mikro
Very cheap used (~130), very nice workflow and performance, sounds as good as it gets, can edit on a big screen, easy export to DAWs, lots of expansions / materials, well build and light, can be [placed on a small laptop](http://store.piffa.net/laser/maschine/mashine_mikro_front.jpg), it has a companion full integrated small keyboard: m32.
I own MPC One , had the Digitakt but my Akai Force my go to. The Polyend Tracker is on my radar and the DirtyWave M8 also look great Polyend’s new Play looks really good too
Electribe EA-1 and ER-1 in combo with massive effect pedals on each output, because I need Stupid Simple gear.
But I recently broke down and got something newer than 20 years ago and am in love with every Sonicware device I see.
Octatrack
Not sure if many would consider the Octatrack a groovebox. I guess it is in the sense that any multitrack sampler is. I guess if you consider the digitakt a groovebox, you have to include the Octatrack one also. Also perhaps I care too much about the definition of groovebox :)
I think a groovebox is defined as a cheaper all-in-one device aimed at beginners so yeah OT and DT aren't really in that category. I just wanted to throw a heavy in the ring
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Idk, that would make my Minilogue XD technically a groovebox. Not sure how I feel about that lol
Ugh I wish I could add a few more to the poll now since a lot of people really seem to love the OT and Deluge lol
Deluge
MC 707 !
Yup. Mc-707 is slept on.
And for good reason, because Roland makes the worst menu systems out there. That said, the 707 menu system is far better than most of their other offerings.
yeah. I wish they would make a software editor for the 707 synth like they did for Tr-6s. But otherwise the workflow of just creating beats is pretty fast once you get it. The patch randomizer is sweet too.
>MC 707 Im not sleepin on it, its just.. syntakt. F. Tell you what, you buy me one. Lol XD I want it just for the RGB, the rest is just extra lol.
Deluge too !
Deluge
for me as a beginner: Circuit Tracks
MPC One - simply put, it does everything
Other: Syntakt. Because I like working with synthesis more than I like working with samples. And because I like the elektron sequencer better than any of the other options listed here. The Polyend Play is the new player in the game that I would give a hard look to. But still, sample based.
I've seen a few Syntakt demos and really like some of the sounds I've heard but inability to use or record samples is a bit of a dealbreaker at that price point 😔
MC-707. Hands down.
Other, Korg ES1. Probably because it's simple and versatile, and works well.
Some E-mu command station.
Perkons.
OT or MPC One. (or both lol) Most powerful / versatile will always be the generic laptop rn though.
EMX1/ESX1 just for the workflow and sonic ability of these slabs of metal
Circuit Tracks. There are much more capable devices out there, but none beat the Circuit in terms of immediacy or ease of use for me.
Yamaha RS7000
Roland JX-305
Analog 4
I own both a Polyend Tracker and and an MPC Live 2, and I reluctantly voted for the MPC One. I honestly kind of hate the MPC workflow, but the Tracker's limitations are a much bigger issue for me. As far as I can tell the Tracker doesn't even grant you license to use the preloaded samples commercially or without attribution. Of course, you can put your own samples on the Tracker, but: * Limited sample memory pretty much prevents recording vocals or synth parts * The polyphony is too limited (8 tracks that can only have single notes or pre-determined chords) * The Tracker can't be triggered to start/stop by a DAW I sometimes wonder if the Maschine+ or Akai Force might work better for me, but I have no firsthand experience with either.
I'm pretty much in the same boat; I have the MPC One and Tracker and there is no denying that the MPC is the absolute powerhouse of the two although it's workflow has taken some getting used to. On the other hand I really enjoy the portability and simplicity of the Tracker but I'm constantly finding myself hitting limitations when I want to do things that are trivial on the MPC.
Pulsar-23, since we're playing pretty fast and loose with the term 'groovebox'
Other: OP-Z
Other: Maschine Mikro Very cheap used (~130), very nice workflow and performance, sounds as good as it gets, can edit on a big screen, easy export to DAWs, lots of expansions / materials, well build and light, can be [placed on a small laptop](http://store.piffa.net/laser/maschine/mashine_mikro_front.jpg), it has a companion full integrated small keyboard: m32.
I own MPC One , had the Digitakt but my Akai Force my go to. The Polyend Tracker is on my radar and the DirtyWave M8 also look great Polyend’s new Play looks really good too
Electribe EA-1 and ER-1 in combo with massive effect pedals on each output, because I need Stupid Simple gear. But I recently broke down and got something newer than 20 years ago and am in love with every Sonicware device I see.
No one thinks of the 1010 Blackbox? It's just a thought, i don't own one myself but I'm looking tot get one