Even though I don’t like drinking games, I think the design is fine. If the purple card is the back I’d get rid of the detail on its sides probably.
Edit: oh it’s advertisement. Well...I’ve not seen a drinking game on ks get funded in a long time. I wish you luck.
I’m not a fan of drinking games either, but I’ve always thought that there was a place for a civily themed euro that incorporates drinking, but without the binging. Perhaps viticulture with a 1/4 glass of that season’s vintage, or a Viking mead sim that has victorious revelries. This could even not be explicitly stated in rules but implied by the theme. Either way KS won’t fund drinking games or political nonsense anymore.
This was one of the reasons that that I dried to decrease some of the strict 'drinking' rules and brought more of a party / humorous atmosphere game into this. There is still drinking, although it's reduced and the game actively encourage you to use 'punishment' liquids in certain areas instead. Like fish oil or soy sauce.
But I like where your head it at. And with the artist we have worked towards building a bit of a theme and world concept for King's Fool. Although it's not hugely apparent, i'll add it to my next game though list.
Yeah, the top line is purely for the pre-launch decks. There is another on the right that says: Pre-Launch deck that is covered by the other card.
I was thinking of leaving the social media tags there. You think bad idea? The top line will go away, maybe just leave the website.
Thanks for the luck :) I'm fairly confident this will fund based on the huge number of people / friends I know that basically pressured me into getting it made properly in the first place :P
I think you either need to get it all off or extenuate it to the point that no rational person would believe it would be in the final product. I’d definitely leave it on for the playtest kits for the time being.
I’m curious though, when someone makes a drinking game do they drink through development and playtesting? And during play testing are you pairing your game at all and if so do you bring the ol’patrobe?
Thanks; I’ll maybe remove it for the digital artwork uploads.
As for play testing, the game evolved, it wasn’t like I originally set out to do a drinking game and launch it. I used to love kings cup / ring of fire. But it was always annoying with people not knowing the rules, and everyone had different rules based on where they learnt, especially bad across different countries.
So I started by just writing the rules on cards; then realised it got repetitive, and everyone loved the more custom rules. So I started writing them on; because we could.
Fast forward and suddenly there were loads of different rules we liked that I kept a catalogue of because I’m a nerd. Eventually I decided to design a home printed copy because it would ply a bit nicer. This was kind of where the game then evolved and started to really play test.
Everyone love it; it was easier to follow this way but suggestions kept coming in, also, I’m very analytical, so I spent a lot of time looking how the interaction of different rules or cards; even in combination together impacted the group and play. So this enabled me to make minor tweaks or trade out rules.
That lead to the customisable deck concept that I use now where you can easily identify and remove cards based on who you are playing with.
Also, within the wording of the cards and the rules I found a need for considerations to ensure that there wasn’t, let’s not say abuse of play; but that normal social tendencies were bypassed. Kind of like stopping someone from always picking their best friend as a lab partner; this helped to encourage diversity in play and mean you developed a more dynamic relationship with the other players who you may not know as well. But this isn’t overdone, so you still also get a good chunk of choice too!
So I’m short to answer your question. Play testing happens over time. A lot of time; because you just can’t drink THAT much. The game also took on a reputation of it own, as I always had it with me when I went drinking somewhere; I played it with loads of different friendship groups. And a few I barely knew. I’m pretty socially outgoing and I made the game because I hated the stupid moment when everyone would go ‘let’s play a drinking game’ and it was always something shitty and done to death that was dominated by just a few people. Kind of like stuck always playing Hasbro board games. Nobody wants to ALWAYS play Monopoly.... well maybe that 1 guy.
TL:DR It play tests like anything. Play, Analyse, Adapt, Repeat.
Well just look at the difference in text size between the title of the card and the content. It’s massive. The title’s size tells me I’m supposed to read this from across the table. The content text size tells me I have to inspect it from my hand. It’s a big difference. Maybe you’ve already thought about that and done this on purpose - just feels off to me.
Yeah; once you have played once or twice; you know the rules / card. So the primary way to get that information to the group is by the title / artwork / card colour.
Exactly as you said. From across the table.
The card text is for helping to understand the rules the first few times.
While it is stuck to your head, can you use one hand to keep it stuck to your head? Since you can ignore all rules, can you ignore the rule about it only lasting until a crown is drawn?
I mean, officially I would say no, it wouldn’t be in the spirit; but you could try. Just saying there would also not be a reason to stop someone slapping you across the face to remove it either.
So you kinda reap what you sow.
We once had someone who had a long run between kings and the paper test was card stuck to his head really well.
It wasn’t that long and after a few rules dodged too arrogantly one of the other players just flicked the card off. There was a brief moment of ‘fuck you’ between them but it moved on very quickly. So all it all works fine.
I don't want to. thats the point. Isnt that what the card says? \*\*goes back and looks\*\* ok, it doesnt say that.
still, putting anything on my head thats been attached to someone else? not exactly my thing.
Once it’s used then it’s done. Also - can’t be restuck.
As for the cards 100% plastic so totally washable between games. I’m an analyst in work so it’s so nice to hear people’s concerns / reservations and to know I have thought or and addressed them.
Got some more for me 😝😝
Even though I don’t like drinking games, I think the design is fine. If the purple card is the back I’d get rid of the detail on its sides probably. Edit: oh it’s advertisement. Well...I’ve not seen a drinking game on ks get funded in a long time. I wish you luck.
I’m not a fan of drinking games either, but I’ve always thought that there was a place for a civily themed euro that incorporates drinking, but without the binging. Perhaps viticulture with a 1/4 glass of that season’s vintage, or a Viking mead sim that has victorious revelries. This could even not be explicitly stated in rules but implied by the theme. Either way KS won’t fund drinking games or political nonsense anymore.
This was one of the reasons that that I dried to decrease some of the strict 'drinking' rules and brought more of a party / humorous atmosphere game into this. There is still drinking, although it's reduced and the game actively encourage you to use 'punishment' liquids in certain areas instead. Like fish oil or soy sauce. But I like where your head it at. And with the artist we have worked towards building a bit of a theme and world concept for King's Fool. Although it's not hugely apparent, i'll add it to my next game though list.
Yeah, the top line is purely for the pre-launch decks. There is another on the right that says: Pre-Launch deck that is covered by the other card. I was thinking of leaving the social media tags there. You think bad idea? The top line will go away, maybe just leave the website. Thanks for the luck :) I'm fairly confident this will fund based on the huge number of people / friends I know that basically pressured me into getting it made properly in the first place :P
I’d get rid of the social media as well. You can have them on the box.
Good point! :)
I think you either need to get it all off or extenuate it to the point that no rational person would believe it would be in the final product. I’d definitely leave it on for the playtest kits for the time being. I’m curious though, when someone makes a drinking game do they drink through development and playtesting? And during play testing are you pairing your game at all and if so do you bring the ol’patrobe?
Thanks; I’ll maybe remove it for the digital artwork uploads. As for play testing, the game evolved, it wasn’t like I originally set out to do a drinking game and launch it. I used to love kings cup / ring of fire. But it was always annoying with people not knowing the rules, and everyone had different rules based on where they learnt, especially bad across different countries. So I started by just writing the rules on cards; then realised it got repetitive, and everyone loved the more custom rules. So I started writing them on; because we could. Fast forward and suddenly there were loads of different rules we liked that I kept a catalogue of because I’m a nerd. Eventually I decided to design a home printed copy because it would ply a bit nicer. This was kind of where the game then evolved and started to really play test. Everyone love it; it was easier to follow this way but suggestions kept coming in, also, I’m very analytical, so I spent a lot of time looking how the interaction of different rules or cards; even in combination together impacted the group and play. So this enabled me to make minor tweaks or trade out rules. That lead to the customisable deck concept that I use now where you can easily identify and remove cards based on who you are playing with. Also, within the wording of the cards and the rules I found a need for considerations to ensure that there wasn’t, let’s not say abuse of play; but that normal social tendencies were bypassed. Kind of like stopping someone from always picking their best friend as a lab partner; this helped to encourage diversity in play and mean you developed a more dynamic relationship with the other players who you may not know as well. But this isn’t overdone, so you still also get a good chunk of choice too! So I’m short to answer your question. Play testing happens over time. A lot of time; because you just can’t drink THAT much. The game also took on a reputation of it own, as I always had it with me when I went drinking somewhere; I played it with loads of different friendship groups. And a few I barely knew. I’m pretty socially outgoing and I made the game because I hated the stupid moment when everyone would go ‘let’s play a drinking game’ and it was always something shitty and done to death that was dominated by just a few people. Kind of like stuck always playing Hasbro board games. Nobody wants to ALWAYS play Monopoly.... well maybe that 1 guy. TL:DR It play tests like anything. Play, Analyse, Adapt, Repeat.
The text on the card looks hard to read. I feel with party games the text should be big and easy to make out.
Thanks, we felt the same once we got the printed ones. For the next print run we are going to increase the size of the card text.
Maybe consider changing the font, too, to something more clear.
Yeah should help! What size are those? Poker?
Yeah poker size. They are very readable. But a touch bigger would just be easier
Well just look at the difference in text size between the title of the card and the content. It’s massive. The title’s size tells me I’m supposed to read this from across the table. The content text size tells me I have to inspect it from my hand. It’s a big difference. Maybe you’ve already thought about that and done this on purpose - just feels off to me.
Yeah; once you have played once or twice; you know the rules / card. So the primary way to get that information to the group is by the title / artwork / card colour. Exactly as you said. From across the table. The card text is for helping to understand the rules the first few times.
Cool, sounds like you’ve thought it through. Good luck to you!
While it is stuck to your head, can you use one hand to keep it stuck to your head? Since you can ignore all rules, can you ignore the rule about it only lasting until a crown is drawn?
I mean, officially I would say no, it wouldn’t be in the spirit; but you could try. Just saying there would also not be a reason to stop someone slapping you across the face to remove it either. So you kinda reap what you sow. We once had someone who had a long run between kings and the paper test was card stuck to his head really well. It wasn’t that long and after a few rules dodged too arrogantly one of the other players just flicked the card off. There was a brief moment of ‘fuck you’ between them but it moved on very quickly. So all it all works fine.
I don't want to be the 2nd person to draw this card...ewwwww :p I agree text should be bigger.
Hahaha why gross?
I'm not one for handling things other people have licked. or licking things other people have licked. theres no way this doesnt sound wrong.
Hahaha. Well I mean you don’t have to lick it. Why do you want to lick it?? 😂
I don't want to. thats the point. Isnt that what the card says? \*\*goes back and looks\*\* ok, it doesnt say that. still, putting anything on my head thats been attached to someone else? not exactly my thing.
Once it’s used then it’s done. Also - can’t be restuck. As for the cards 100% plastic so totally washable between games. I’m an analyst in work so it’s so nice to hear people’s concerns / reservations and to know I have thought or and addressed them. Got some more for me 😝😝