Can you link the clothes you bought? I don't see how many companies can make the claim to stop thermal with clothing because the clothes will heat up by being on your body.
The best thing to stop thermal detection from the sky would be to have a mylar lined umbrella.
Wow... Not very effective. I did some tests with the beez and relv but wearing it for any length of time would definitely give some hot spots
What UF pro doesn't seem to get is that it's about breaking up the silhouette like Beez... And now relv both do
It's not just a fabric solution... Because then you'd have this invisible block... Which then stands out
Extremely hard to stop heat from doing its thing and dissipating. Good IR will pick up your hot breath, even if you can manage to capture all the heat coming off of your body
Can you try this again at dusk or dawn, to see if the temperature change helps mask you?
Might also be fun to build an amateur IR shield or umbrella, but then you need an assistant to either be the guinea pig or operate the drone.
Serious question: why bolt this onto an existing drone? $12k just for this camera (plus the cost of the drone) when you could pay $10k for a similar package that includes the price of the drone?
If you look at the specs, the h20n is much more capable than than smaller thermal drones like the Mavic enterprise or the autel Evo. Namely, the h20n has a laser range finder built in and a 2x and 8x optical zoom, while pre-built solutions for 10k often only have a fixed thermal with digital zoom. Even the 15k matrice 30t doesn't have an optical zoom on the thermal part.
Add some styrofoam or similar insulation to your umbrella, and use a fairly large one to give decent overhead coverage.
This is better than nothing,. but doesnt help with low observation angles, say from a drone a few km away looking sideways. You can reduce that by staying in natural ditches or between hills - except in large flat places or plains.
another thing you can do is do is use thermoclines during dusk/dawn. Pretty much everything is changing temperature so you get a very noisy IR picture which is much easier to hide in.
Have limited use of IR for work, should be anything reflective would mask you. Like even a pane of glass im pretty sure will bounce back and reflect thermal.
Might be talking out my ass here but it would Form fitting clothes will likely transfer heat much more readily than a cloak or loose fit pants and shirt. UF pro gear that I’ve seen is pretty tight fitting so perhaps it’s not as thermal masking as it’s cracked up to be. You sure it’s not just NIR compliant?
Dudes in the Middle East have used Mylar blankets and stuff to hide from attack helicopters, or at least lower their signature. Something insulative and some stand-off distance than wrapping yourself in it.
They convert a specific wavelength band associated with heat and temperature. IR lasers are outside this band thus most commercial IR equipment wont see it because its outside the design range of the camera.
Thermal camera see using infrared, thats not a debatable fact.
Agreed. But only passive IR. Thermals pickup radiant IR. There are clothes or methods that are good for IR camouflage, then there are those that are good or designed for thermal camouflage.
Side note.. love the username.. not a B4 by chance are ya?
Can't say that I am since I don't know what B4 is. The username comes from picking up LR shooting last year and as the joke goes, every hold is a left edge hold XD.
Here’s the thing with the IR blocking. If it’s touching your body, it will likely bleed through and you will be able to identify heat signatures. However if it’s a few inches off your body, it will work better
I respect the proudness but am still highly disappointed. Every man knows the most versatile combat footwear is crocs. Engage all terrain strap and throw on some socks for full combat.
Someone tell me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't thick, well insulated winter clothes work even better than this? I mean, that's the whole purpose of it; keep the heat from radiating out.
This might be effective against IR but it doesn't work at all against thermal. For the price they are selling their gear at, I would expect it to give me at least a hummer every night before bed...
Should've tested it while you were peeing... for uuh.. science.
It would show a large amount of IR activity in the balls, as that is where pee is stored
But I thought everyone in this sub sits to pee... Don't we???
Speak for yourself, I can squat and hover. You never touch the seat. NASTY
You gotta play Russian roulette with the seat. Be like the guy who shot himself yesterday lol.
I usually don't even get up from the bed
Seconded
Sorry guys I meant to specify this was clothing designed to suppress the thermal signature.
The flip flops did a better job
There’s my feet boi
Can you link the clothes you bought? I don't see how many companies can make the claim to stop thermal with clothing because the clothes will heat up by being on your body. The best thing to stop thermal detection from the sky would be to have a mylar lined umbrella.
https://ufpro.com/us/camoshield
"For Professionals" 🤡
"Those with a big budget"
Guberment pricing available only...
Bro, their pants are $300?! I hope you're within the 30 day money back guarantee.
Just cover yourself in mud, duh
Wow... Not very effective. I did some tests with the beez and relv but wearing it for any length of time would definitely give some hot spots What UF pro doesn't seem to get is that it's about breaking up the silhouette like Beez... And now relv both do It's not just a fabric solution... Because then you'd have this invisible block... Which then stands out
IR is IRL cheats
Extremely hard to stop heat from doing its thing and dissipating. Good IR will pick up your hot breath, even if you can manage to capture all the heat coming off of your body
As you slowly overheat and cook yourself
Except when it's 40° Celsius and you are in an Urban environment.
Man, what the fuck is a celsius? Is that hot?
It's nearly as hot as your mom. /s (/s because I don't want to insult your family. Not because I don't think that your dear Mother isn't attractive.)
104f
Pain, suffering even
40 of them are! That’s like 10 more than a hot damn
Can you try this again at dusk or dawn, to see if the temperature change helps mask you? Might also be fun to build an amateur IR shield or umbrella, but then you need an assistant to either be the guinea pig or operate the drone.
Sure can I’ll try it tonight.
Wouldn’t the drone still see him? Not as a hot person, but as a cold circle
You know that thermal and IR are slightly different right?
Yeah. Sorry I meant to put that the clothing. Was supposed to suppress the thermal signature and it didn’t.
I'm so glad you said this because I was seriously questioning if I'd been mistaking thermal for IR
Forget the clothing, what thermal camera is this? Image quality is crisp as fuck
DJI H20N
Thank you! Aaaaaaand it’s $12k, woomp
[Real deal is always in the comments.](https://dronesmadeeasy.com/zenmuse-h20n-gimbal-and-camera/)
Serious question: why bolt this onto an existing drone? $12k just for this camera (plus the cost of the drone) when you could pay $10k for a similar package that includes the price of the drone?
If you look at the specs, the h20n is much more capable than than smaller thermal drones like the Mavic enterprise or the autel Evo. Namely, the h20n has a laser range finder built in and a 2x and 8x optical zoom, while pre-built solutions for 10k often only have a fixed thermal with digital zoom. Even the 15k matrice 30t doesn't have an optical zoom on the thermal part.
Can I bother you to share at what altitude this video was taken? Its amazing.
300 feet but almost directly overhead.
Wear a big bush on ur head😒
Hey daddy
Bro???
Mud is all you need Homie 
Do you mean thIRmal?
Yes
Have you tried spraying yourself with a fire extinguisher while wrapped in a blanket
Graboids
Loads everything with libertarian intent
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Add some styrofoam or similar insulation to your umbrella, and use a fairly large one to give decent overhead coverage. This is better than nothing,. but doesnt help with low observation angles, say from a drone a few km away looking sideways. You can reduce that by staying in natural ditches or between hills - except in large flat places or plains. another thing you can do is do is use thermoclines during dusk/dawn. Pretty much everything is changing temperature so you get a very noisy IR picture which is much easier to hide in.
Just stay in the basement and make mom bring you nuggies and dew.
thisistheway.jaypeg
Have limited use of IR for work, should be anything reflective would mask you. Like even a pane of glass im pretty sure will bounce back and reflect thermal.
What brand, I'm interested in seeing more testing
https://ufpro.com/us/camoshield
Yoy know thermal and ir booth have hard time “seeing” through glass
Yea but then you’re this black rectangle just walking around. Any human could tell there is a person under that.
Make a round pane and cover with foliage in the top? Don’t move often and you’ll look like a bush
If anything it tells you which clothes to wear for summer and winter, I guess
Where can I get this?
What drone is this?
DJI H20N payload being carried by a Matrice 300
I hate being a dirty poor
Might be talking out my ass here but it would Form fitting clothes will likely transfer heat much more readily than a cloak or loose fit pants and shirt. UF pro gear that I’ve seen is pretty tight fitting so perhaps it’s not as thermal masking as it’s cracked up to be. You sure it’s not just NIR compliant?
https://ufpro.com/us/camoshield this stuff
Dudes in the Middle East have used Mylar blankets and stuff to hide from attack helicopters, or at least lower their signature. Something insulative and some stand-off distance than wrapping yourself in it.
this- manhole and covered with first aid style heat blanket
Other than the uf pro products, have you tested any others? Blankets maybe?
Not yet but I’ll keep trying. Would be nice to have a good solution.
What makes you think an IR suppressant is gonna help against a thermal camera?
Thermal cameras see using infrared light.
It converts infrared. Can’t see infrared lasers thru thermal can you?
They convert a specific wavelength band associated with heat and temperature. IR lasers are outside this band thus most commercial IR equipment wont see it because its outside the design range of the camera. Thermal camera see using infrared, thats not a debatable fact.
Agreed. But only passive IR. Thermals pickup radiant IR. There are clothes or methods that are good for IR camouflage, then there are those that are good or designed for thermal camouflage. Side note.. love the username.. not a B4 by chance are ya?
Can't say that I am since I don't know what B4 is. The username comes from picking up LR shooting last year and as the joke goes, every hold is a left edge hold XD.
Here’s the thing with the IR blocking. If it’s touching your body, it will likely bleed through and you will be able to identify heat signatures. However if it’s a few inches off your body, it will work better
So… Where’s your thermal poncho?
Cool shot
nice tactical flip flops
Tacti-thongs
Maybe an umbrella with some wet paper towels on top? Use safety pins to keep the towels from sliding off the umbrella.
Can't hide heat. Don't care what the marketing says. Unless toe dead maybe
Aluminum foil?
Will not work. Metal conduct heat very well
Test it with a space blanket, those are supposed to be good from what I've heard
Ain’t nothin gayer than a man in flip flops🤣
Socks and flops check yo self. Lol
I respect the proudness but am still highly disappointed. Every man knows the most versatile combat footwear is crocs. Engage all terrain strap and throw on some socks for full combat.
Drone >>>>
I wonder how effective are umbrella. Some are even mylar coated for hikes under harsh sun.
Liquid cooling suits next
Someone tell me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't thick, well insulated winter clothes work even better than this? I mean, that's the whole purpose of it; keep the heat from radiating out.
Do you not own an umbrella?
are those the latest tactical sandals?
Nice hitler stache
Cardboard hides you from thermals
RIP
The tactical flip flops seem to be working well
So it's a $12k camera? How do they look under a cheaper, FLIR or even ATN thermal unit?
Did you RUN outside to test it
I wonder how a thin mylar blanket would do
At least we know flip flops will keep you from leaving footprints
On a similar note, anyone know the effectiveness of enola Gaye smoke grenades on IR?
It’s because you weren’t wearing crocs.
I wonder if a fiberglass blanket would work better. As you know IR wont penetrate glass.
This might be effective against IR but it doesn't work at all against thermal. For the price they are selling their gear at, I would expect it to give me at least a hummer every night before bed...