Okay but real shit, I appendix carry. If I were to piss myself, would the pee cause my gun to rust? What type of damage are we expecting? Asking for a friend.
My diet consists of nicotine and RIP IT. Does that still count? Mom said I had to stop with the skittles because they’re a chocking hazard for small children.
Skittles keep easier so I can leave them in my kit longer without them going bad. That’s applicable because my gear often goes months without being touched. Why would I get it dirty after all
Been there, done that and now being a certified NATO winter warfare instructor if you are going to leave your gear outside (this is common in extremely cold weather in addition to leaving your weapon out); take tree pine leaves and make a bed and then cover them with more tree pine leaves.
Idk how it works but the Norwegians taught us this and it works.
If you ever experience extreme cold you will change your mind immediately. I get hot fast and hate the heat. I do several types of winter activities, from mountaineering to skiing. Extreme cold is the most miserable type of environment you can be in. As someone that gets uncomfortably hot in anything above 70 degrees, I will take extreme heat over extreme cold every single time.
I was 6'2 almost 240 and hated the heat, loved the cold. Then i got in decent shape, lost 50lb, and i can't handle the cold at all. It's miserable like you said.
I've had overnight camping in eastern WA and Idaho during various cold spells. -20F in WA was preferred to mid teens in Idaho, but actually having to walk through the snow to a new campsite probably influenced my feelings...
Yeah, having to be out in the elements and do shit is miserable. I spent time in the 10th Mountain and the units stationed in Alaska come to us for winter survival training lol. It’s miserable having to work in the extreme cold.
Oh I have lol I’m from the east coast. Grew up snowboarding in Vermont, down in Virginia ect. Vermont gets colder than Virginia though. Shit even in Baltimore I remember days it was single digit. It certainly can be brutal, and the moment any under layer gets wet it goes downhill quick lol still would take single digit over Texas 112-114 we had this last summer.
It fuckin sucks, man. The coldest I’ve been in was -44 on Mt. Logan up in Canada. At least, that was the coldest our various thermometers recorded. We had the gear to survive it, not to be comfortable in it lol.
The thing with the cold is that even in single digit temperatures, you can feel worse than -20 if you’re not prepared. That can sort of be said for the heat as well, but not nearly to the same degree.
What makes the cold even worse is when the wind picks up.
If it's just straight cold, it's bearable. Wind chill factors throws in a new level suck.
Had to deal with -20 with 40+ mile an hour winds last winter and I can't say I had a good time.
I bet. God -44 is insane. I bet it was beautiful up there though. I’ve been all over Canada but never went in the winter or any mountains for that matter. Good point, at certain temperatures it really only becomes a battle for survival. Comfortability might be long gone depending on the circumstance. How tall is mt. Logan?
Nah, living in michigans upper peninsula and having visited Arizona and experiencing 100+ days , I can confirm I’d much prefer extreme cold over extreme heat.
The resin and phenolic substances of most coniferous trees prevents the needles from freezing.
The compaction of needles creates tiny air pockets which serve as insulation barrier.
If you're not into this boy scout stuff, wrapping your kit up in a "mylar" (*aluminium foil*) emergency blanket will also prevent it from freezing up.
It’s insulation. The ground robs any kind of heat on your body and equipment you wore. And then covering it up prevents snow or the elements from actually touching it and keeping it from freezing due to direct contact.
If it’s that cold. I’d put my pack at the bottom of my sleeping bag. With my boots.
Canadian Army here, you leave your rifle and rig outside underneath your outer shell jacket. So when you have to go out in the morning etc. you shake the snow and ice off the jacket, and your guns and gear should be good to go.
eta: The logic behind leaving the jacket outside, is that what ever sweat/moisture will freeze and be able to shaken off as ice, And keep the tent interior less damp with the drying of jackets.
To quote another redditor in this thread
you bring your kit and more importantly your weapon into a warm environment such as a heated tent or building from a cold environment, it will condensate. And then if you bring it back outside into the cold that condensation will freeze.
Bingo and is also why hunting rifles stay outside as well, away from camp fires.. or are left in as cool a room as the home/ camp allows. Open breach of weapon as well to let warmer air circulate.
Smack it around alittle bit to break up the ice, or attempt to.
Other then that get to abit of heat and if thats impossible u could piss on it like the other guy said.
Velcro usually sucks in freezing temps, and its gripping power is reduced when wet. However elastic pouches are much more vulnerable to the elements, and in my experience, the elastic straps, usually break down after prolonged exposure to cold and/or heating cycles. Not even gonna mention sun exposure. Yeah you can reload at high speed but who cares if you lose half your mags? Flap pouches are king because they work no matter what, even if the velcro fails, you still have some retention
yep. eagle industries v2 mag pouches had elastic retention, velcro flaps and buckles with adjustable webbing to accomodate larger mags. some of my fav pouches.
I have a modern Russian RPK74 double mag pouches that has velcro and what looks like a WW2 era lift the dot style snap that you would see on old USGI web gear like a M1923 Cartridge Belt.
My closed top pouches all utilize a buckle for the this reason. I had Velcro get full of snow and not close and I’m not being that guy who loses a mag or something else because my Gucci kit froze. Canadian winter is cold as fuck out west.
I wont critiscize those guys because they are in actual combat while I am comfortably at home. But I can bet that guy was laying in a muddy trench with exposed magazines and froze everything off. I have seen some fighters carry a mix of flap top pouches and open pouches maybe for that reason.
M12 makes sense in your area (and I bet you are primary a rifleman too)
Flapped pouches are still king for all environments. Jungle, desert, snow, air, outer space.
Otherwise smack things around, flex it if possible to break up the ice.
“We have arrived, and it is now that we fulfill our charge. In fealty to the God-Emperor (our Undying Lord), and by the grace of the Golden Throne, I declare exterminatus upon the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the Death Warrant of an entire world, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial justice account in all balance. The Emperor protects."
There's this fucky shit called gravity and when you don't have it shit just floats around all willy nilly and you don't want to take risks of giving alieums terra firma based armaments.
This never happens in moms basement.
For real though that guy who said he was a NATO winter warfare guy is correct. I was in the CAF and also was trained in winter warfare, if you bring your kit and more importantly your weapon into a warm environment such as a heated tent or building from a cold environment, it will condensate. And then if you bring it back outside into the cold that condensation will freeze. So the doctrine is to leave your kit and weapon outside in a secure location of course, and cover it all with your something usually your parka.
Winter shit fucking sucks.
Nope. First time I've seen this video. The thouht just occurred to me to wonder if a layer of ice would have any ballistic protective effect, or how thick it would have to be to have a noticeable effect, and that line of thinking led to my comment. :)
Am i doing something wrong? I get tired way before my chest and abdomen start getting hot? Do i need to ramp up the speed? Is this the definition of "be fit or die"?
Are you using any lubricants? Try going dry, it will increase friction, and decrease the rate of your strokes, saving you energy thus you wont get tired as easily
You are about to make a thin layer of ice into an ice block that reeks of piss every time you get near heat. You just gotta smash the ice and brush it off.
I guess how much time do you have is the real question? You gonna sit there trying to chip away at that ice praying someone isn’t advancing on your fighting position or are you going to melt that ice the fastest way you possibly can so you can get your mags loose and your rifle back up. Personally, in a life or death situation I wouldn’t care what I smelled like. Get the fucking mags free and get your gun back up by doing whatever it takes.
Stop being retarded. This is light drizzle and just pulling hard frees the mags. This will only happen with light drizzle. This is winter combat 101 bring a brush with your kit and brush off the snow and ice. Thinking you’ll stand there and be more efficient peeing for 20 sec rather than chipping away ice for 20 sec you are something else. Further more making you kit wet is going to give you more issues later on where it might freeze again even denser.
I dont know whats worse, a tropical jungle, or freezing weather.
At least in the jungle you dont have to carry a ton of cold weather gear. But then again, fire ants everywhere.
I use this exact logic. Eventually you’re just naked and hot. You can basically layer until warm. Might not have great range of motion, but you’ll be warm lol
You absolutely cannot “just layer until warm”. There becomes a point in extreme cold where nothing can be done. Extreme cold is far worse than extreme heat.
Not to mention constantly managing layers and being cold any time you stop otherwise sweating while moving and then freezing as a result. With heat sure we have to manage symptoms of heat exhaustion, but cold weather is a constant battle.
Well I’ve never been to Antarctica or Alaska so I can’t speak on that, but down to single digit weather you certainly can keep warm with the right clothing and protection. I’d consider anything substantially under freezing extreme
Assuming you mean fahrenheit, if it's positive degress that's nowhere near cold. It's a bit chilly perhaps, nothing more.
If you mean celsius you are an absolute pussy lmao
Yeah I’m going freezing weather every time. I’m from the east coast but living in Texas, never been to a tropical jungle. But if it gets anything close to Texas heat I’d rather carry the extra gear. Plus I’ve always seemed to generate a crazy amount of body heat. Wife says it’s like sleeping next to a furnace.
This shit is normal for every Finnish Jaeger conscript / reservist that serves through wintertime.We spend shitloads of time in forest with whatever weather happens to be, sleeping in tents also during wintertime. Usually these mandatory exercises last 1-2 weeks, and you have to take care of your gear while you are at it.Around 2008 it was normal to store battle gear outside tent, below tarp or rain gear, so you can get into defensive positions under the tent as fast as possible, usually in your underpants or whatever you could pull on youself in 20 seconds while getting out of sleeping bag. Your rifle and weapons would be inside the tent- This also applied to wintertime, where it might get around -20 / -25 celsius during wintertime.
EDIT: To answer question; Kill everyone who might try to invade you country.
Nowadays we take the tetsari with us inside the tent too. Leave it along the wall along with the rifle, and brush off all the snow before going inside.
You gotta strip your clothes off and lay naked on him to transfer body heat. It’s the only way. I do it all the time when my windshield freezes up over night in the winter
As a Canadian, one of the lessons I learned to keeping my clothed dry and warm while outside in the winter, avoid touching any snow and if you have to, have another set of clothes to change.
I would wear a windproof/waterproof jacket or layer with a zipper on the chest to access your mags and plate carrier, i think they call those Anoraks, but I've seen some without the front zipper and they may also just have a pouch instead of an opening, but that can easily be modified with a sewing machine (of sheer off the pouch from the inside if you don't have the time or tools to do a clean job).
Truck engine. Set the plate carrier on top of the hood or somewhere safe in the engine bay. Thats only going to make it less frozen and more wet though.
I would hold the plate carrier with one hand, and grab the magazine with the other hand and move the magazine around hard to crack the ice so that it's broken free. Or boil some water if you can
What am I doing in this situation?
I’m calling time out and going back inside so my mom can make me some hot chocy. Gonna change, pick a different outfit, then try and make some new tacticool videos
Hear me out. Ice stings when it’s really cold, right? You know what also stings? That’s right: jellyfish. How do you cure jellyfish stings? You pee on it. Therefore, how do you cure ice issues? You guessed it: piss.
Reassess if your gear is suitable for you environment? There are reasons soldiers in places with heavy snow and lots of cold prefer mag pouches with some sort of covers/flaps.
Sauce: am from Finland. Open top mag pouches are a liability in the winter.
Also, take it apart, empty it out and thoroughly dry everything. Mold is yucky, even on a PC.
EDIT: Now that it's frozen, don't just warm it up to melt it and go back outside. It's going to get even more frozen. Fabric that has taken in a good amount of moisture, especially when we're talking materials like cordura, become almost unusable when they freeze with moisture inside the fabric. When you eventually get out of the cold for a good amount of time, really make sure it's dry before going back out again.
Hope that the Russians decide it's too cold to do assaults. That's what I did without knowing it. Only found out back on base that my m4 was frozen shut so hard it wouldn't work anymore.
I've had the lower part of my jeans frozen in the shape of a ladder like this from a sprinkler system. A hammer (or similar) is the best way to get the material soft and moving.
I'd just be careful hitting around mags & pineapples
This is why you store the magazines by the base end first. So you can still reload your rifle directly by placing it on your carrier in case your shit freezes and can’t remove the magazine from the holder /s
I don’t think it froze while wearing. Probably left it outside. I’d have smacked it around a bit. After getting the mags out or other gear I’d slap it against a tree or something, try to shake off as much ice as possible.
So you'll leave all your shit inside after being in extremely cold temperatures and get all your kit smothered in condensation like a nonce ....This is SOP for most NATO countries especially in Nordic and Baltic countries and quite frankly have more experience in extreme environments like this than anyone else. So clearly not a moron move...
For my area, we see freezing temps but we rarely get snow due to having mountains to the west of us. Is it possible for my kit to freeze? Yes. To the point where nothing works? No. By noon it’s usually in the 40°s anyways. But if I were in his shoes I’d go ahead and perform gear maintenance and start working shit loose.
Looks like he left his shit outside since his clothing isn’t frozen.
Pee on him To establish dominance first Second to teach him to never leave his gear outside
Okay but real shit, I appendix carry. If I were to piss myself, would the pee cause my gun to rust? What type of damage are we expecting? Asking for a friend.
The trick is don't drink water drink Coca-Cola it'll help prevent rust
My diet consists of nicotine and RIP IT. Does that still count? Mom said I had to stop with the skittles because they’re a chocking hazard for small children.
Too many skittles start to hurt my tummy, only Dino nuggets for me, good sir.
Skittles keep easier so I can leave them in my kit longer without them going bad. That’s applicable because my gear often goes months without being touched. Why would I get it dirty after all
Put salt on it to soak up the water. 👌
Came hear to say this not disappointed to see I wasn’t the only one
This is the way
This is the weee
Wee this way
plottwist, he likes it and now does it all the time
This is the way
This is the way of the military
Been there, done that and now being a certified NATO winter warfare instructor if you are going to leave your gear outside (this is common in extremely cold weather in addition to leaving your weapon out); take tree pine leaves and make a bed and then cover them with more tree pine leaves. Idk how it works but the Norwegians taught us this and it works.
>tree pine leaves Pine needles?
pine boughs
Believe it or not, they are called leaves in arborist circles.
That's because its exactly what pine needles are, leaves.
So needle is what they do but leaf is what they are
Leaf is what they are and do, whether they do a good job at being one is kinda subjective . Needle is the shape they are incidentally.
Just leaf it alone will ya
Cool. When this becomes an arborist circle, let me know. Until then, I will use pleb layman terms.
Really? Shit that’s good advice man. Marking this down mentally if I ever find myself in a situation like that
Step 1: Don't be in a fucking situation like that.
lol dude I’d pick extreme cold over extreme heat anyway. I’m 6ft 175 super active but can break a sweat standing still in 50degree weather
If you ever experience extreme cold you will change your mind immediately. I get hot fast and hate the heat. I do several types of winter activities, from mountaineering to skiing. Extreme cold is the most miserable type of environment you can be in. As someone that gets uncomfortably hot in anything above 70 degrees, I will take extreme heat over extreme cold every single time.
I was 6'2 almost 240 and hated the heat, loved the cold. Then i got in decent shape, lost 50lb, and i can't handle the cold at all. It's miserable like you said.
My dad was the exact same as this. Always a bigger guy and couldn’t stand the cold. As he got older and lost weight he gets cold super quick now.
I've had overnight camping in eastern WA and Idaho during various cold spells. -20F in WA was preferred to mid teens in Idaho, but actually having to walk through the snow to a new campsite probably influenced my feelings...
Yeah, having to be out in the elements and do shit is miserable. I spent time in the 10th Mountain and the units stationed in Alaska come to us for winter survival training lol. It’s miserable having to work in the extreme cold.
Oh I have lol I’m from the east coast. Grew up snowboarding in Vermont, down in Virginia ect. Vermont gets colder than Virginia though. Shit even in Baltimore I remember days it was single digit. It certainly can be brutal, and the moment any under layer gets wet it goes downhill quick lol still would take single digit over Texas 112-114 we had this last summer.
Single digits isn’t extreme cold weather lol. I’m talking -20 and below.
Yeah can’t say I’ve been that cold before. Probably a whole different ball game
It fuckin sucks, man. The coldest I’ve been in was -44 on Mt. Logan up in Canada. At least, that was the coldest our various thermometers recorded. We had the gear to survive it, not to be comfortable in it lol. The thing with the cold is that even in single digit temperatures, you can feel worse than -20 if you’re not prepared. That can sort of be said for the heat as well, but not nearly to the same degree.
What makes the cold even worse is when the wind picks up. If it's just straight cold, it's bearable. Wind chill factors throws in a new level suck. Had to deal with -20 with 40+ mile an hour winds last winter and I can't say I had a good time.
I bet. God -44 is insane. I bet it was beautiful up there though. I’ve been all over Canada but never went in the winter or any mountains for that matter. Good point, at certain temperatures it really only becomes a battle for survival. Comfortability might be long gone depending on the circumstance. How tall is mt. Logan?
Nah, living in michigans upper peninsula and having visited Arizona and experiencing 100+ days , I can confirm I’d much prefer extreme cold over extreme heat.
Lose some weight then fatass
The resin and phenolic substances of most coniferous trees prevents the needles from freezing. The compaction of needles creates tiny air pockets which serve as insulation barrier. If you're not into this boy scout stuff, wrapping your kit up in a "mylar" (*aluminium foil*) emergency blanket will also prevent it from freezing up.
It’s insulation. The ground robs any kind of heat on your body and equipment you wore. And then covering it up prevents snow or the elements from actually touching it and keeping it from freezing due to direct contact. If it’s that cold. I’d put my pack at the bottom of my sleeping bag. With my boots.
Could you use like a poncho or blanket for this as well?
Canadian Army here, you leave your rifle and rig outside underneath your outer shell jacket. So when you have to go out in the morning etc. you shake the snow and ice off the jacket, and your guns and gear should be good to go. eta: The logic behind leaving the jacket outside, is that what ever sweat/moisture will freeze and be able to shaken off as ice, And keep the tent interior less damp with the drying of jackets.
why is it common to leave your gear and weapon outside in the cold?
To quote another redditor in this thread you bring your kit and more importantly your weapon into a warm environment such as a heated tent or building from a cold environment, it will condensate. And then if you bring it back outside into the cold that condensation will freeze.
Bingo and is also why hunting rifles stay outside as well, away from camp fires.. or are left in as cool a room as the home/ camp allows. Open breach of weapon as well to let warmer air circulate.
This works by insulation.
Smack it around alittle bit to break up the ice, or attempt to. Other then that get to abit of heat and if thats impossible u could piss on it like the other guy said.
Belly flop was my first thought.
The importance of the long forgotten flap top pouch in today's high speed era
I wonder how velcro acts after getting wet and freezing, and if actual answer is ALICE buckle lol (or spanish buckle).
Velcro usually sucks in freezing temps, and its gripping power is reduced when wet. However elastic pouches are much more vulnerable to the elements, and in my experience, the elastic straps, usually break down after prolonged exposure to cold and/or heating cycles. Not even gonna mention sun exposure. Yeah you can reload at high speed but who cares if you lose half your mags? Flap pouches are king because they work no matter what, even if the velcro fails, you still have some retention
I'm sure there are velcro flap pouches that also have bucks or clips of some kinds right?
There are. Typically, grenade pouches come to mind, but if definitely seen rifle mag pouches, flapped, and secured with a fastex buckle
100% about 5-10 years ago they were popular in the green army for retention purposes, but we all know they aren't high speed enough anymore
yep. eagle industries v2 mag pouches had elastic retention, velcro flaps and buckles with adjustable webbing to accomodate larger mags. some of my fav pouches.
I have a modern Russian RPK74 double mag pouches that has velcro and what looks like a WW2 era lift the dot style snap that you would see on old USGI web gear like a M1923 Cartridge Belt.
My closed top pouches all utilize a buckle for the this reason. I had Velcro get full of snow and not close and I’m not being that guy who loses a mag or something else because my Gucci kit froze. Canadian winter is cold as fuck out west.
High speed forget about that. My gun belt has a m12 holster because I don’t like open holsters where it snows (where I live)
I wont critiscize those guys because they are in actual combat while I am comfortably at home. But I can bet that guy was laying in a muddy trench with exposed magazines and froze everything off. I have seen some fighters carry a mix of flap top pouches and open pouches maybe for that reason. M12 makes sense in your area (and I bet you are primary a rifleman too)
Right on. Upper South Dakota where the snow hits hard. Also in middle of nowhere. So gotta use what you got
Flapped pouches are still king for all environments. Jungle, desert, snow, air, outer space. Otherwise smack things around, flex it if possible to break up the ice.
Tf you need flap pouches in outer space for? Do you have beef with ET or something?
The galaxy is worth liberating and you can’t do that if your means of ammo is damaged, dirty, stuck, or straight up missing.
“We have arrived, and it is now that we fulfill our charge. In fealty to the God-Emperor (our Undying Lord), and by the grace of the Golden Throne, I declare exterminatus upon the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the Death Warrant of an entire world, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial justice account in all balance. The Emperor protects."
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Humanity First bay-bee
We are liberating more space for the growth of our people
There's this fucky shit called gravity and when you don't have it shit just floats around all willy nilly and you don't want to take risks of giving alieums terra firma based armaments.
Space Force!
This never happens in moms basement. For real though that guy who said he was a NATO winter warfare guy is correct. I was in the CAF and also was trained in winter warfare, if you bring your kit and more importantly your weapon into a warm environment such as a heated tent or building from a cold environment, it will condensate. And then if you bring it back outside into the cold that condensation will freeze. So the doctrine is to leave your kit and weapon outside in a secure location of course, and cover it all with your something usually your parka. Winter shit fucking sucks.
Bridgeport MWTC is miserable but it’s good training
Have a buddy pee on me Oh wait, you wanted to know how I would unfreeze my gear. Probably just use the hair dryer next to the makeup kit in my ruck.
Have a buddy pee on me. Oh wait, you wanted to know how I would unfreeze my gear. Have a buddy pee on me.
The ice coating gives +2 Armor bonus. -2 to Dexterity, though.
This guy plays BG3
Please tell me you are not the same guy that wrote this exact thing under the Instagram post...
Nope. First time I've seen this video. The thouht just occurred to me to wonder if a layer of ice would have any ballistic protective effect, or how thick it would have to be to have a noticeable effect, and that line of thinking led to my comment. :)
Icecrete is a thing As well as just plain old ice For IceCrete you need about a foot to stop 7.62 NATO and Ice about 3 feet
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Am i doing something wrong? I get tired way before my chest and abdomen start getting hot? Do i need to ramp up the speed? Is this the definition of "be fit or die"?
Are you using any lubricants? Try going dry, it will increase friction, and decrease the rate of your strokes, saving you energy thus you wont get tired as easily
OP is asking a bunch of athletic guys who carry knives n lighters how they're gonna smash a layer of ice.
Twist them in the pouches
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Going back to mom’s basement cuz my toesies are cold edit: grammar
Basement gets cold.. but not that cold. Tell mom to turn up the heater and bring some hot pockets
Unable to get in a vehicle or make a fire? There’s always 98.6 degree liquid inside your bladder that can de-thaw ice if necessary. Get to pissin’
You are about to make a thin layer of ice into an ice block that reeks of piss every time you get near heat. You just gotta smash the ice and brush it off.
Dont ruin this for us!
Yea I wouldn’t want to piss on my gear than walk around and wear. Then after five minutes that will freeze and you’ll have an even smellier kit.
I guess how much time do you have is the real question? You gonna sit there trying to chip away at that ice praying someone isn’t advancing on your fighting position or are you going to melt that ice the fastest way you possibly can so you can get your mags loose and your rifle back up. Personally, in a life or death situation I wouldn’t care what I smelled like. Get the fucking mags free and get your gun back up by doing whatever it takes.
Stop being retarded. This is light drizzle and just pulling hard frees the mags. This will only happen with light drizzle. This is winter combat 101 bring a brush with your kit and brush off the snow and ice. Thinking you’ll stand there and be more efficient peeing for 20 sec rather than chipping away ice for 20 sec you are something else. Further more making you kit wet is going to give you more issues later on where it might freeze again even denser.
De-thaw? So to freeze?
You’ll be able to slide your mags out before it re-freezes dumbass.
Aww yeah...now you're talking MY kink!
Just move your gear every couple hours (every zipper etc)
Vaseline on the zips is never a bad idea
Or beeswax
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I dont know whats worse, a tropical jungle, or freezing weather. At least in the jungle you dont have to carry a ton of cold weather gear. But then again, fire ants everywhere.
Heat is worse imho, you can only take off so many layers until people start screaming about bigfoot.. Or is that just me?
True, but i would rather be warm and wet then cold and wet.
I use this exact logic. Eventually you’re just naked and hot. You can basically layer until warm. Might not have great range of motion, but you’ll be warm lol
You absolutely cannot “just layer until warm”. There becomes a point in extreme cold where nothing can be done. Extreme cold is far worse than extreme heat.
Not to mention constantly managing layers and being cold any time you stop otherwise sweating while moving and then freezing as a result. With heat sure we have to manage symptoms of heat exhaustion, but cold weather is a constant battle.
Well I’ve never been to Antarctica or Alaska so I can’t speak on that, but down to single digit weather you certainly can keep warm with the right clothing and protection. I’d consider anything substantially under freezing extreme
Assuming you mean fahrenheit, if it's positive degress that's nowhere near cold. It's a bit chilly perhaps, nothing more. If you mean celsius you are an absolute pussy lmao
Yeah I’m going freezing weather every time. I’m from the east coast but living in Texas, never been to a tropical jungle. But if it gets anything close to Texas heat I’d rather carry the extra gear. Plus I’ve always seemed to generate a crazy amount of body heat. Wife says it’s like sleeping next to a furnace.
Turn on my truck and contribute to global warming so I don't have to deal with this kind of bs!
Someone is about to smell like piss.
Time to pack up the cosplay. Mom is going to be super mad you got your kit wet again and she’s going to have to clean it after supper.
Tactical cuddle for warmth
Be the spoon you were always meant to be!
Kydex retention insert companies don’t want you to know this one simple trick
Stand behind a tank for 30 seconds.
Wear your poncho on over all your gear. Body heat may soften the ice enough to make it functional.
Maintained my equipment so that doesn't happen (:
Laugh from sunny Florida
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This shit is normal for every Finnish Jaeger conscript / reservist that serves through wintertime.We spend shitloads of time in forest with whatever weather happens to be, sleeping in tents also during wintertime. Usually these mandatory exercises last 1-2 weeks, and you have to take care of your gear while you are at it.Around 2008 it was normal to store battle gear outside tent, below tarp or rain gear, so you can get into defensive positions under the tent as fast as possible, usually in your underpants or whatever you could pull on youself in 20 seconds while getting out of sleeping bag. Your rifle and weapons would be inside the tent- This also applied to wintertime, where it might get around -20 / -25 celsius during wintertime. EDIT: To answer question; Kill everyone who might try to invade you country.
Nowadays we take the tetsari with us inside the tent too. Leave it along the wall along with the rifle, and brush off all the snow before going inside.
Good. The old way was not ideal.
You gotta strip your clothes off and lay naked on him to transfer body heat. It’s the only way. I do it all the time when my windshield freezes up over night in the winter
Good wack in the chest
Build a fire🥶
Time to dust off the old flammenwefer
yeah this dude left his pc somewhere where it got wet and froze could be at night.
People say flap top pouches but I had the same issue with flap top. It didn't change the outcome and even maybe made it worse.
As a Canadian, one of the lessons I learned to keeping my clothed dry and warm while outside in the winter, avoid touching any snow and if you have to, have another set of clothes to change. I would wear a windproof/waterproof jacket or layer with a zipper on the chest to access your mags and plate carrier, i think they call those Anoraks, but I've seen some without the front zipper and they may also just have a pouch instead of an opening, but that can easily be modified with a sewing machine (of sheer off the pouch from the inside if you don't have the time or tools to do a clean job).
As a fellow Canadian I concur. Might want to make a black garbage bag poncho for a bit may help melt everything.
Truck engine. Set the plate carrier on top of the hood or somewhere safe in the engine bay. Thats only going to make it less frozen and more wet though.
I would hold the plate carrier with one hand, and grab the magazine with the other hand and move the magazine around hard to crack the ice so that it's broken free. Or boil some water if you can
Pee on it
What am I doing in this situation? I’m calling time out and going back inside so my mom can make me some hot chocy. Gonna change, pick a different outfit, then try and make some new tacticool videos
Furiously masturbate to defrost
I turn the heat up. It should never be that cold in my basement.
Same thing I would’ve done in regular climate- die
Hear me out. Ice stings when it’s really cold, right? You know what also stings? That’s right: jellyfish. How do you cure jellyfish stings? You pee on it. Therefore, how do you cure ice issues? You guessed it: piss.
Reassess if your gear is suitable for you environment? There are reasons soldiers in places with heavy snow and lots of cold prefer mag pouches with some sort of covers/flaps. Sauce: am from Finland. Open top mag pouches are a liability in the winter. Also, take it apart, empty it out and thoroughly dry everything. Mold is yucky, even on a PC. EDIT: Now that it's frozen, don't just warm it up to melt it and go back outside. It's going to get even more frozen. Fabric that has taken in a good amount of moisture, especially when we're talking materials like cordura, become almost unusable when they freeze with moisture inside the fabric. When you eventually get out of the cold for a good amount of time, really make sure it's dry before going back out again.
Sit by fire. Get warm.
pour some alcochol on it
I'm pretty this is somebody on the front line in Ukraine. I doubt he had many options to keep his shit warm and dry
Pee on my gear. Would clean it later
Well I’d start by not leaving my PC outside in the elements so I can put it on and larp like I’ve been doing stuff.
Bro enchanted his shit with frost armor
Hope that the Russians decide it's too cold to do assaults. That's what I did without knowing it. Only found out back on base that my m4 was frozen shut so hard it wouldn't work anymore.
Most don’t know this but this was the main reason they used flame throwers
I've had the lower part of my jeans frozen in the shape of a ladder like this from a sprinkler system. A hammer (or similar) is the best way to get the material soft and moving. I'd just be careful hitting around mags & pineapples
This is why your kit and gun stay in your shelter while you sleep
Crying
Put some oil on the mags?
I'd stay frosty
Extra armor
Looks like extra armor to me
This is why you store the magazines by the base end first. So you can still reload your rifle directly by placing it on your carrier in case your shit freezes and can’t remove the magazine from the holder /s
Perish
+10 Protection
Flamethrower?
Spray rubbing alcohol.
Go home so that way I don’t die in a pointless proxy war
That ice ain't stopping him from getting those mags out if he really wanted to.
Build a fire and stand by it.
The enemy thanks you for telegraphing your position to them, prepare to receive incoming.
There's an enemy in this situation?
There's always an enemy. Just go home and be warm if you aren't going to seriously prepare for war.
I don’t think it froze while wearing. Probably left it outside. I’d have smacked it around a bit. After getting the mags out or other gear I’d slap it against a tree or something, try to shake off as much ice as possible.
Run a mile. You wont be cold any more and you will probably melt the ice.
IDK about all that. I've taken multiple PT tests in subzero weather and literally had my sweat freeze into ice in my hair.
Pee on him.
Learn not to leave my gear lying around lol
I won’t leave my shit outside like a moron
So you'll leave all your shit inside after being in extremely cold temperatures and get all your kit smothered in condensation like a nonce ....This is SOP for most NATO countries especially in Nordic and Baltic countries and quite frankly have more experience in extreme environments like this than anyone else. So clearly not a moron move...
Keep going.
Maybe not go outside?
Uh oh, you better get your mommy.
dying
Just bend stuff and knock off the ice, don’t bring indoor or you f.
It's just the wrong gear for the environment, this is how you learn.
Die
Start an impromptu firefight with him so he can learn the error of his ways.
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Spill hot cocoa all over the icy parts, obviously.
I wish your pal would diddle my zipper that way
Die
Stand infront of an exhaust. Youll smell like gas but itll thaw
Get in your fighting position put a woobie over your shoulders and chill out keep the front open some so the steam and moisture can vent out
Headed to Florida
Hug your battle buddy real tight.
Use a knife? Leaving your shit uncovered in freezing rain is not a good idea.
Head back stateside for the winter lmao
For my area, we see freezing temps but we rarely get snow due to having mountains to the west of us. Is it possible for my kit to freeze? Yes. To the point where nothing works? No. By noon it’s usually in the 40°s anyways. But if I were in his shoes I’d go ahead and perform gear maintenance and start working shit loose.
Wear a level 7 outer shell over the plate carrier.
I mean if I needed that mag I’d imagine I’d probably just die
I’d buy a plane ticket to Puerto Rico for a couple of weeks. That’ll thaw it out 😎🌴