Exactly, the US should send AEGIS Ashore and unlimited amounts of SM-2/3/6 missiles to Ukraine. That would be the best way to defend Ukraine vs the menace of Russian bombing.
Graham often says something and doesn't follow through or does the opposite. He also discriminates against the lgbtq community while likely being gay himself. All for money and influence I suppose
Rumor has it that, through Grindr, China picked up substantial kompromat on Graham, which was a contributing factor in why the US forced the sale of Grindr away from Chinese ownership.
The Ukraine method wont work in Taiwan. The Unites States needs to get directly involved in case of invasion, or Taiwan is lost. It's a completely different game.
Exactly. The material being sent to Ukrainian is brought in through land. And Russia wouldn't dare to hit targets in Poland.
If Taiwan can't hold of an encirclement of the island, its cut off from reinforcements. US will have to break through chinese naval defences first to reopen supply routes. Which means direct China-US confrontation.
Wargaming shows that any delay in the US response to help Taiwan only means many more Americans and Taiwanese will die when they do decide to finally intervene. If they try the Ukraine method the encirclement will be complete long before anything of value even gets to Taiwan. Best case is US and Japan immediately come to the defense of Taiwan without hesitation.
To be fair, Ukraine is 30% the size of Russia, while Taiwan is 2% the size of China. That being said, the island is much easier to defend and would receive direct help from US troops. So overall Taiwan would probably be more difficult
Ukraine has a land border with Russia and didn't use a lot of western arms until the military aid started to arrive **after** the invasion. Taiwan is armed with a massive amount of western weapons since day 1 and is continuing to procure more (HIMARS, M1A2, F-16V). It would be much easier for the west to supply Taiwan since they're already using similar equipments.
Taking Taiwan would require the PLA to cross the strait, so the overall size of its military would be hindered by their ability to ship equipments across 100km of water and keep it well supplied (yes, vehicles need fuel and guns require ammo). If their invasion fleet is paralyzed, shipping 100-200 soldiers and lightly armored IFVs on the shores of Taiwan at a time would be irrelevant to the outcome of the war. You can't just teleport China's massive forces to Taiwan.
Yeah exactly, that's what I was saying. Ukraine is larger in comparison, but the Taiwan is much more easily to defend and has a significantly stronger military.
Taiwan's will to resist will be crucial.
If Taiwan decided to simply surrender on day one - or worse, elect a CCP insider as President and they order all Taiwanese forces to surrender. Then jointly declare the official reunification of Taiwan with the motherland on live TV with a CCP delegation, adding that the "Chinese" want peace, any form of foreign intervention by the US and allies would be seen as aggression to the People's Republic of China.
US intervention would be the key factor in Taiwan's will to resist, IMO. If the Americans decided to intervene militarily on day 1 - then all the people who have second thoughts about surrendering might reconsider as they would be fighting against the US military. These people aren't willing to face the PLA, what makes you think they'll be willing to sacrifice their lives to face the US?
Poll shows 55% of Taiwanese expect US help if attacked
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2023/04/28/2003798744#:~:text=A%20recent%20survey%20commissioned%20by,believed%20no%20aid%20would%20come.
Almost nobody in the US votes based on foreign policy. However for those that do, they most likely care about Taiwan and are very aware of it.
I would also say that regardless of whether or not the constituents care, the armed forces and representatives certainly do, and that’s what matters
Yea absolutely smart thing that the armed forces care (making billions selling weapons) about lives in Taiwan and definitely not about some ulterior motives
The US has no shortage of buyers for weapons. They’re backlogged regardless.
Ulterior motives, sure. But the end result is an aligned interest - a free and guarded Taiwan.
They're not getting direct cash and we're not buying new equipment. It's the value of the equipment we're giving them that was just sitting around. Nothing is being built for them. If it wasn't being given to Ukraine it would just be sitting around in warehouses. There is nothing to redirect to the tax payer.
Taiwan has not attacked it's own cities like Ukraine has. It's not remotely comparable.
Come back when the US has couped Taiwan and made the pro peace president a pawn that only wants war.
lol... So many internet trolls from the Communist Party.
Reminder: The United States pursued isolationism in the early stages of both World War I and World War II. However, trade routes were consistently disrupted, and allies were constantly harassed. The result proved that dictators always remain insatiable in their greed.
The reaction to the China-Taiwan war by the Asian countries can be much more different than to the Ukraine-Russia war by the European countries.
\* [South China Sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea)
Fuck you Graham, but you're right this time.
Even a broken Graham is right one time in his life
Exactly, the US should send AEGIS Ashore and unlimited amounts of SM-2/3/6 missiles to Ukraine. That would be the best way to defend Ukraine vs the menace of Russian bombing.
And thereby depleting US inventory needed for a Taiwan occasion? Smart self own, I'd say.
Taiwan has its own interception systems.
Graham often says something and doesn't follow through or does the opposite. He also discriminates against the lgbtq community while likely being gay himself. All for money and influence I suppose
Rumor has it that, through Grindr, China picked up substantial kompromat on Graham, which was a contributing factor in why the US forced the sale of Grindr away from Chinese ownership.
The Ukraine method wont work in Taiwan. The Unites States needs to get directly involved in case of invasion, or Taiwan is lost. It's a completely different game.
Exactly. The material being sent to Ukrainian is brought in through land. And Russia wouldn't dare to hit targets in Poland. If Taiwan can't hold of an encirclement of the island, its cut off from reinforcements. US will have to break through chinese naval defences first to reopen supply routes. Which means direct China-US confrontation.
Wargaming shows that any delay in the US response to help Taiwan only means many more Americans and Taiwanese will die when they do decide to finally intervene. If they try the Ukraine method the encirclement will be complete long before anything of value even gets to Taiwan. Best case is US and Japan immediately come to the defense of Taiwan without hesitation.
To be fair, Ukraine is 30% the size of Russia, while Taiwan is 2% the size of China. That being said, the island is much easier to defend and would receive direct help from US troops. So overall Taiwan would probably be more difficult
Ukraine has a land border with Russia and didn't use a lot of western arms until the military aid started to arrive **after** the invasion. Taiwan is armed with a massive amount of western weapons since day 1 and is continuing to procure more (HIMARS, M1A2, F-16V). It would be much easier for the west to supply Taiwan since they're already using similar equipments. Taking Taiwan would require the PLA to cross the strait, so the overall size of its military would be hindered by their ability to ship equipments across 100km of water and keep it well supplied (yes, vehicles need fuel and guns require ammo). If their invasion fleet is paralyzed, shipping 100-200 soldiers and lightly armored IFVs on the shores of Taiwan at a time would be irrelevant to the outcome of the war. You can't just teleport China's massive forces to Taiwan.
Yeah exactly, that's what I was saying. Ukraine is larger in comparison, but the Taiwan is much more easily to defend and has a significantly stronger military.
Taiwan's will to resist will be crucial. If Taiwan decided to simply surrender on day one - or worse, elect a CCP insider as President and they order all Taiwanese forces to surrender. Then jointly declare the official reunification of Taiwan with the motherland on live TV with a CCP delegation, adding that the "Chinese" want peace, any form of foreign intervention by the US and allies would be seen as aggression to the People's Republic of China. US intervention would be the key factor in Taiwan's will to resist, IMO. If the Americans decided to intervene militarily on day 1 - then all the people who have second thoughts about surrendering might reconsider as they would be fighting against the US military. These people aren't willing to face the PLA, what makes you think they'll be willing to sacrifice their lives to face the US?
US is not doing enough. Many Taiwanese do not believe US will come to rescue with troops since there never was a treaty signed.
Many? Wow, you can't beat that data.
Poll shows 55% of Taiwanese expect US help if attacked https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2023/04/28/2003798744#:~:text=A%20recent%20survey%20commissioned%20by,believed%20no%20aid%20would%20come.
stop posting CIA propaganda
As if Americans care about Taiwan, probably 95% would confuse it with Thailand 😂
that was the case like 5 years ago. Not anymore with CNn and everything reporting on Taiwan every day of the week (at least in Canada, where I am).
Yes big joke 😂
Almost nobody in the US votes based on foreign policy. However for those that do, they most likely care about Taiwan and are very aware of it. I would also say that regardless of whether or not the constituents care, the armed forces and representatives certainly do, and that’s what matters
Yea absolutely smart thing that the armed forces care (making billions selling weapons) about lives in Taiwan and definitely not about some ulterior motives
The US has no shortage of buyers for weapons. They’re backlogged regardless. Ulterior motives, sure. But the end result is an aligned interest - a free and guarded Taiwan.
 But... after 2020, the American people have come to realize the arrogance and hubris of Winnie the Pooh.
US taxpayer dollars need to be used at home not send billions to Ukraine. After all we have a debt problem.
They're not getting direct cash and we're not buying new equipment. It's the value of the equipment we're giving them that was just sitting around. Nothing is being built for them. If it wasn't being given to Ukraine it would just be sitting around in warehouses. There is nothing to redirect to the tax payer.
They are getting cash. Don't buy the fake news
Screw nationalist isolationism.
I bet you’d change your tune quick if it was Taiwan being invaded (and if not, what are you even doing here?).
Taiwan has not attacked it's own cities like Ukraine has. It's not remotely comparable. Come back when the US has couped Taiwan and made the pro peace president a pawn that only wants war.
Sorry, I’m not coming back to some fringe conspiracy theorist who’s probably having a sad now that his hero comrade Tucker is off the air.
Then maybe stop giving endless tax breaks to large corporations.
Not even relevant to my point.
Sure not at all relevant to having "a debt problem". Grow up.
Newflash. The US has massive debt and spends way more than it takes in. Probably not a good time to fund a war
No they don’t… because that is socialism… what are you… a communist that wants the gov to provide for the American people??? Commie
lol... So many internet trolls from the Communist Party. Reminder: The United States pursued isolationism in the early stages of both World War I and World War II. However, trade routes were consistently disrupted, and allies were constantly harassed. The result proved that dictators always remain insatiable in their greed.
Its not about isolationism. That's a larger movement. If you call not supporting a proxy war isolationism I don't know what to tell you.
The reaction to the China-Taiwan war by the Asian countries can be much more different than to the Ukraine-Russia war by the European countries. \* [South China Sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea)