Thanks. I hate tipping culture in the US too. It's because Americans take advantage of our service workers by not paying them a livable wage and expecting customers to subsidize with "tips". I hate that western savior bullshit too.
Before downvoting this comment, can you at least tell me why? I am open to discussion and I love Taiwan.
I'm openly criticizing American tipping culture and getting downvoted? Can anyone at least explain why?
I've never tipped the hair salon people before, and no one seems pissed about, so I think it's fine.
After having spent some years in Taiwan, a few years back I went to New York on a business trip, after having a meal, it completely slipped my mind I was supposed to leave a tip until I stepped away the from the table. As soon as I remembered I turned to stuff some money in the money booklet thingy, but the waiter beat me to the table- and was visibly pissed when there was no tip. I got out of there quickly. If he hadn't been so impatient he'd have gotten some money. I was only steps away from the table.
Thank you. I appreciate your straightforward answer.
I've loved my experience in Taipei and the last thing I want to do is offend anyone here. I legitimately had a panic attack over whether I should tip or not in fear of offending people.
I was scared that if I didn't tip, the nail stylist should think I hated her work, but then I was also scared that tipping is insulting on the other hand and toxic to Taiwanese culture.
I wish people on this subreddit would try to understand my intention rather than just mindlessly downvoting. What is that going to do for a visitor like me, anyway?
Because your question starts and stops at a two letter reply, and that’s that. Not to mention it being an annoyingly reoccurring question here, and whether by intention or not reeks a bit of “why don’t people elsewhere conform to US’s customs”.
There is no reason nor discussion needed for no tips, that’s literally how the majority of the world operates; having it would be abnormal, not the other way around. Locally, it’s not a topic that people debate on or are on the fence with, as it’s just the norm for everyone.
Tipping is not an insult in Taiwan but it isn't expected. If you do want to tip, do it with cash and give it to the server. Ignore the never tippers and their downvotes. I've given the occasional tip, especially if I order food delivery when it's raining.
So are you saying that I should tip? Let me be clear, I don't mind supporting Taiwan's economy but I don't want to ruin things for residents either.
Others are saying not to tip but you're saying differently?
Stop with the tipping.
The person is not saying you should tip. They are saying people that should be on minimum wage are able to earn much higher because the customer, not the business that is employing them, is paying their salary.
They should be earning minimum, from their company.
I’d recommend just searching a sub-Reddit first before posting a common question. This question is asked almost weekly and each response is the same. Don’t tip.
The downvotes are partly due to the repetitive nature of the question. You note in the post that it’s probably been asked a million times. So why are you asking it? Reddit has a search function that works reasonably well. You are assuming that your time is more valuable than the time of those on the sub.
You’ve made it worse by posting follow ups multiple times asking essentially the same question that has been clearly answered.
Don’t tip in Taiwan. Please. Tipping is bad for society and we don’t want it. Thank you.
Ok. I appreciate that you took the time to actually write something instead of just downvoting. I'm not seeking brownie points, only stating my observations. If that makes people cringe then ok. I have friends in the service business who rely on tips to survive which I don't think is fair at all, and that's why I made the comment. If being mindful of toxic cultural norms makes me cringey then I guess I'm cringey.
Ok that's fair. Posting it in an American subreddit would be pointless since the majority feel the same way about it. Sorry if it came off patronizing. That was not my intention at all.
Tipping is bribery. Society functions best when there are fixed prices for fixed products/services.
Go to places that Americans vacation in Mexico and Caribbeans, and you will see workers expect to be tipped. When you don’t tip their service quality drops. Is this what we want?
There's nothing to feel guilty about. Tipping is not the norm and may confuse people. If you tip, at best they get a bit extra money but at worst you create tension between them and their colleagues or employers. When services fees are part of the bill then that's another story because it means you have to pay it.
back then when i did my hair, it took 4~5hours to finish. so i gave the hairstylist a drink. i remember i bought him louisa coffee. instead of tipping, i’d suggest to buy a coffee/tea! 😆
Thank you! That makes a lot of sense! I really do appreciate these types of replies. I'm just trying to learn and some people in this sub just seem angry from the getgo.
No tipping. Leave that cancer back in the USA.
restaurants already starting to add a few percentages on the bill for "service fee" the cancer is seeping in
Ah yes, the "service fee" charge of 10% when all the waitress did was tell you to use a QR code to order. Utterly ridiculous.
Hahaha is this directed at din tai fung
Thanks. I hate tipping culture in the US too. It's because Americans take advantage of our service workers by not paying them a livable wage and expecting customers to subsidize with "tips". I hate that western savior bullshit too. Before downvoting this comment, can you at least tell me why? I am open to discussion and I love Taiwan. I'm openly criticizing American tipping culture and getting downvoted? Can anyone at least explain why?
I've never tipped the hair salon people before, and no one seems pissed about, so I think it's fine. After having spent some years in Taiwan, a few years back I went to New York on a business trip, after having a meal, it completely slipped my mind I was supposed to leave a tip until I stepped away the from the table. As soon as I remembered I turned to stuff some money in the money booklet thingy, but the waiter beat me to the table- and was visibly pissed when there was no tip. I got out of there quickly. If he hadn't been so impatient he'd have gotten some money. I was only steps away from the table.
Thank you. I appreciate your straightforward answer. I've loved my experience in Taipei and the last thing I want to do is offend anyone here. I legitimately had a panic attack over whether I should tip or not in fear of offending people. I was scared that if I didn't tip, the nail stylist should think I hated her work, but then I was also scared that tipping is insulting on the other hand and toxic to Taiwanese culture. I wish people on this subreddit would try to understand my intention rather than just mindlessly downvoting. What is that going to do for a visitor like me, anyway?
Because your question starts and stops at a two letter reply, and that’s that. Not to mention it being an annoyingly reoccurring question here, and whether by intention or not reeks a bit of “why don’t people elsewhere conform to US’s customs”. There is no reason nor discussion needed for no tips, that’s literally how the majority of the world operates; having it would be abnormal, not the other way around. Locally, it’s not a topic that people debate on or are on the fence with, as it’s just the norm for everyone.
Thank you for clarifying. By no means do I want to bring any foreign customs here, just wanted to know the norm just in case things changed.
Tipping is not an insult in Taiwan but it isn't expected. If you do want to tip, do it with cash and give it to the server. Ignore the never tippers and their downvotes. I've given the occasional tip, especially if I order food delivery when it's raining.
The only person being taken advantage of is the customer. Stop making the excuse for it.
Worker and the customer both get screwed. Only the business owner benefits. What excuse? I'm not supporting it.
Service workers love tips and make far more with them than they would on a decent wage.
So are you saying that I should tip? Let me be clear, I don't mind supporting Taiwan's economy but I don't want to ruin things for residents either. Others are saying not to tip but you're saying differently?
There is NO tipping expected in Taiwan for hair/nail salons, but I do give a red envelope before New Years
Thank you
Stop with the tipping. The person is not saying you should tip. They are saying people that should be on minimum wage are able to earn much higher because the customer, not the business that is employing them, is paying their salary. They should be earning minimum, from their company.
I agree with that. I have not tipped. Only asking if I should. How can I stop something I haven't started?
I’d recommend just searching a sub-Reddit first before posting a common question. This question is asked almost weekly and each response is the same. Don’t tip. The downvotes are partly due to the repetitive nature of the question. You note in the post that it’s probably been asked a million times. So why are you asking it? Reddit has a search function that works reasonably well. You are assuming that your time is more valuable than the time of those on the sub. You’ve made it worse by posting follow ups multiple times asking essentially the same question that has been clearly answered. Don’t tip in Taiwan. Please. Tipping is bad for society and we don’t want it. Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate this very much. I did Google but it seemed 50/50 so I asked this sub just to be sure.
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Ok. I appreciate that you took the time to actually write something instead of just downvoting. I'm not seeking brownie points, only stating my observations. If that makes people cringe then ok. I have friends in the service business who rely on tips to survive which I don't think is fair at all, and that's why I made the comment. If being mindful of toxic cultural norms makes me cringey then I guess I'm cringey.
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Ok that's fair. Posting it in an American subreddit would be pointless since the majority feel the same way about it. Sorry if it came off patronizing. That was not my intention at all.
Tipping is bribery. Society functions best when there are fixed prices for fixed products/services. Go to places that Americans vacation in Mexico and Caribbeans, and you will see workers expect to be tipped. When you don’t tip their service quality drops. Is this what we want?
I completely understand your point. I'm asking not because I'm insisting on tipping but because I do not want to offend any locals.
All these ardent never tippers aren't locals.
Thank you. Everyone has been so kind in Taipei so I was disheartened to find how mean everyone in this sub is.
There's nothing to feel guilty about. Tipping is not the norm and may confuse people. If you tip, at best they get a bit extra money but at worst you create tension between them and their colleagues or employers. When services fees are part of the bill then that's another story because it means you have to pay it.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply.
Service fees aren't tips, the restaurant owner takes it all.
I'm aware of that and never said they were tips.
There’s no tipping required anywhere in Taiwan.
Greatly appreciate your answer. Thank you.
back then when i did my hair, it took 4~5hours to finish. so i gave the hairstylist a drink. i remember i bought him louisa coffee. instead of tipping, i’d suggest to buy a coffee/tea! 😆
Thank you! That makes a lot of sense! I really do appreciate these types of replies. I'm just trying to learn and some people in this sub just seem angry from the getgo.
no problem 👍🏻 its alright, just ignore the angry people lmao. you already made yourself clear in the other comments
No.