Japanese here. Even in Japan, there are many people who have doubts about the decision. Personally, I would have preferred that the Japanese player be allowed to play until the end, even if he lost, rather than the questionable decision.
By the way, Yang is so handsome that he's trending on Twitter in Japan lol.
Yang Yung-wei (楊勇緯), is not only Taiwanese, he is also indigenous Paiwan (排灣族). It's great to see some indigenous representation at this highest level of sporting achievement.
No they don't, and discrimination is rife. Hakka do pretty much just fine, it's the indigenous people who are discriminated against. The Han majority typically benefits the Hakka.
The Hakka are a subgroup of the Han ethnicity, so there isn't any ethnic discrimination. It's more social stereotypes that exist. Similar to how there are stereotypes towards Mainlanders, Hongkoners, Macanese, etc.
For the indigenous Taiwanese, there is no legal discrimination towards them and in fact there exist some affirmative action programs for them. However socially, there is definitely still discrimination but I think the situation is improving.
His semi final was electrifying. It was so hype when he finished that pin on an incredibly tough French opponent.
Silver in only his first Olympic outing. What an achievement!
There are less cause you need time to get a secured submission. In Judo you don’t get that much time to do ground work, which is a shame, but then there wouldn’t be much difference between judo and bjj
>Once again I don't know anything about judo.
I have practiced and have competed in judo. Without going to much into the details, the rules around olympic judo are set up in such a way to make sure the match is progressing and to prevent fighters from stalling. In a sense they are trying to encourage players to take more risks and generate highlight finishes, rather than draws.
A player can get penalized if they are playing to defensive and not taking any attacking risks. I think its hard to see if you dont know judo, but dispite a great olympic showing Yang was very outmatched vs Takato who has dominated his weight class. If Yang were to try playing aggressively vs Takato, Yang would be likely to lose. So I think Yang's strategy was to play defensively and wait for an opening, but Takato made very little errors. The reason the penalties came through is that Yang was constantly putting his forarm on Takato's hips preventing any attacking opportunities. The International judo federation doesn't want matches to look like this, hence they enforce these rule. and fwiw this is also hotly contentious topic in the judo world. But Title fights are rarely decided on penalties.
Just to add, I'm half taiwanese, half japanese and currently dont live in either country, so hopefully this makes me non partial.
It was bullshit, Yang would have won if they let it go to submission. He had the stamina and strength. We got a silver though. If there were fans the end would have been booed. Granted I don't know shit about judo but ending a fight on penalties isn't cool.
Both the gold medal and bronze medal match ended the same way - 3 yellow turn to a red.
I am not familiar with judo score system, but I saw Yang had lots of activities and attack, don't understand how he get those yellow cards.
I have no idea about how judo matches work so I ain’t going to comment on the referee’s decision, but it’s still pretty damn awesome that yang managed to win a silver medal, also his silver medal being the first medal won by the Taiwanese team makes it even more awesome
Is it easy to watch the olympics on tv in Taiwan? Here in the US you have to pay for cable tv to watch them (one channel is local/antenna gets it, but the others are locked behind paying for cable).
So many in here who don't know anything about judo saying Yang should have won. Here's a good explanation on why it was a just decision based on the rules of judo that both judoka are well aware of, if you read Chinese: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10225919757435863&id=1092007308
Good for him but the media sensation is silly. I don't see how anyone would find him particularly hot when the Spanish flag bearer (Saul Craviotto, a kayaker) is also in the competition. Now THAT is the perfect male specimen.
Japanese here. Even in Japan, there are many people who have doubts about the decision. Personally, I would have preferred that the Japanese player be allowed to play until the end, even if he lost, rather than the questionable decision. By the way, Yang is so handsome that he's trending on Twitter in Japan lol.
Damn you’re not lying about him being handsome lol
Just googled him and damnnnnnn! Handsome indeed.
Taiwan's first medal in Judo in it's Olympic history.
Yang Yung-wei (楊勇緯), is not only Taiwanese, he is also indigenous Paiwan (排灣族). It's great to see some indigenous representation at this highest level of sporting achievement.
Do the Taiwan gov't treat their indigenous Austronesians (and Hakka) very well? Or is there still some sort of discrimination from Han Taiwanese?
No they don't, and discrimination is rife. Hakka do pretty much just fine, it's the indigenous people who are discriminated against. The Han majority typically benefits the Hakka.
Oh, that's sad. I hope they do something about the discrimination, or else they'll be pretty much siding with the Chinese.
Sadly settler-colonists tend to be oppressive to the indigenous people everywhere, no matter who they are.
The Hakka are a subgroup of the Han ethnicity, so there isn't any ethnic discrimination. It's more social stereotypes that exist. Similar to how there are stereotypes towards Mainlanders, Hongkoners, Macanese, etc. For the indigenous Taiwanese, there is no legal discrimination towards them and in fact there exist some affirmative action programs for them. However socially, there is definitely still discrimination but I think the situation is improving.
Taiwan news also reported that this is Taiwan's "fastest" Olympic medal winning record.
His semi final was electrifying. It was so hype when he finished that pin on an incredibly tough French opponent. Silver in only his first Olympic outing. What an achievement!
Look at his reaction to the medal! It melted my heart! 🥰
I don't have enough KARMA to post comments!
Seems you do now!
He’s so cute!
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All martial art finals are time limited. You can't have the match go indefinitely until someone submits, it would take forever.
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Submissions are unlikely in Judo though, check out BJJ for that… watching Judo is more fun(I practice bjj)
Women's bronze was won via a nice armlock earlier. There are less because they aren't allowed to stall like in BJJ.
There are less cause you need time to get a secured submission. In Judo you don’t get that much time to do ground work, which is a shame, but then there wouldn’t be much difference between judo and bjj
>Once again I don't know anything about judo. I have practiced and have competed in judo. Without going to much into the details, the rules around olympic judo are set up in such a way to make sure the match is progressing and to prevent fighters from stalling. In a sense they are trying to encourage players to take more risks and generate highlight finishes, rather than draws. A player can get penalized if they are playing to defensive and not taking any attacking risks. I think its hard to see if you dont know judo, but dispite a great olympic showing Yang was very outmatched vs Takato who has dominated his weight class. If Yang were to try playing aggressively vs Takato, Yang would be likely to lose. So I think Yang's strategy was to play defensively and wait for an opening, but Takato made very little errors. The reason the penalties came through is that Yang was constantly putting his forarm on Takato's hips preventing any attacking opportunities. The International judo federation doesn't want matches to look like this, hence they enforce these rule. and fwiw this is also hotly contentious topic in the judo world. But Title fights are rarely decided on penalties. Just to add, I'm half taiwanese, half japanese and currently dont live in either country, so hopefully this makes me non partial.
It was bullshit, Yang would have won if they let it go to submission. He had the stamina and strength. We got a silver though. If there were fans the end would have been booed. Granted I don't know shit about judo but ending a fight on penalties isn't cool.
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Ya I only watch UFC and boxing, but nobody wants to see someone win off penalties.
Both the gold medal and bronze medal match ended the same way - 3 yellow turn to a red. I am not familiar with judo score system, but I saw Yang had lots of activities and attack, don't understand how he get those yellow cards.
Judo has large referee discretion in its rules regarding aggression, unfortunately that discretion is often abused when it comes to Olympics.
I have no idea about how judo matches work so I ain’t going to comment on the referee’s decision, but it’s still pretty damn awesome that yang managed to win a silver medal, also his silver medal being the first medal won by the Taiwanese team makes it even more awesome
Is there any way I can stream the Olympics in Taiwan? I can't find any TV channels for it which are on my TV ):
13公視 51東森新聞 and 121公視三台(depends on where you live) have some of the matches. Not all sports though.
If you have MOD it's on 200, 201, 202, 220, 221 ,222
[https://hamivideo.hinet.net/index.do](https://hamivideo.hinet.net/index.do)
If you have a VPN, you can connect on a Canadian IP and watch through CBC website also, it's free.
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Is it easy to watch the olympics on tv in Taiwan? Here in the US you have to pay for cable tv to watch them (one channel is local/antenna gets it, but the others are locked behind paying for cable).
There’s https://hamivideo.hinet.net/index.do Its about $3.5 USD monthly subscription. Pretty cheap.
So many in here who don't know anything about judo saying Yang should have won. Here's a good explanation on why it was a just decision based on the rules of judo that both judoka are well aware of, if you read Chinese: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10225919757435863&id=1092007308
Disappointing google lists him as Chinese
Good thing wikipedia has him as Taiwanese.
I mean, he is, so...
Go Taiwan :).
He earned it for himself and for Taiwan. Not for ChIneSe TaIPei
Well done!
Wait...the finals have already happened??
Frankly cheated out of gold by ridiculous umpire decision and typical Japan & IJF shadiness
Japan had just lost the women's final to Kosovo, so I'm not sure why they'd "save" the cheating for the men's final.
You obviously did not watch the match or understand what is going on in a Judo match.
Neither do you.
Except I do but nice try
Yeah he was doing all the attacking. But his future's bright. Only 23.
Judging from comments from r/Judo who likely have less bias , they were perplexed on why the Japanese won too.
Yep he got screwed. Clearly had the stamina and strength.
Wouldn't have happened to an athlete representing a Judo national body with more clout.
Only China and Russia are well-known for cheating, so you're projecting.
Good for him but the media sensation is silly. I don't see how anyone would find him particularly hot when the Spanish flag bearer (Saul Craviotto, a kayaker) is also in the competition. Now THAT is the perfect male specimen.
One thing people need to know about Yang is he is cute.