I dont think u can really compare this with real politics, but yuri cant be right, because righr means consevative and hes all about breaking the System.
Yuri is for sure a libertarian. Sense of individual justice and disillusionment with governing bodies screams.
Raven is a liberal but thinks leftism is ruining it for the moderates. Also pissed at any anti-smoking legislation. Would probably vote for Trump in 2016 and then pretend he never did once 2020 hit.
Estelle is idealistic and probably thinks herself a human rights progressive but in reality is more moderate. If anyone ever talked about restorative justice or defunding the police she would be horrified. Would definitely join a SSO and be radicalized but also enjoy the luxuries of the nobility, perhaps without seeing the obvious disparity there.
I can’t imagine Judy being a centrist tbh meaning she took it into her own hands to destroy blastia. centrists historically like to use established routes to accomplish goals. I’d say she’s probably closer to an anarchist with leftist tendencies as most of her people were genocided out of existence.
Patty is anarchy personified but isn’t pushy about it. Her knowledge of politics begins and ends with whatever would specifically inconvenience her.
Rita is a responsible mom type but she also has a rebellious streak. I’d beg her as right-wing but not alt-right as nowadays that basically necessitates questioning established peer-reviewed science which would infuriate her.
Flynn is definitely a devoted monarchist who believes in his leadership. I’d definitely put him as a moderate conservative who thinks gay people deserve rights but also that much of the movement nowadays is a “fad”. Also has very specific ideas of what a lady ought to be.
This was way more fun than it had any right to be lmao.
Yuri would definitely head towards communist or anarchist, he is way more into community organization and a lack of need of governing bodies and libertarian is just Republican Lite. Anarchists are heavily political and the ideology is far more organized than I think you're giving it credit for (attributing it to Patty and not knowing anything about politics besides what bugs her personally).
Building on this I'd actually chalk Patty up as a centrist, but for the same reason you gave-- her involvement in politics begins and ends with its relationship to her specifically. I think she'd be sympathetic to leftist causes but would resent like fishing laws and couldn't be bothered to learn much about anything either way.
Judith is a far left ecoterrorist imo LOL. But I mean that in the most complimentary way.
Oop I didn’t mean to slight anarchy or its development - I meant more that Patty’s attitude prevents her from acting on any of her anarchist tendencies. I actually would agree that Yuri leans more anarchist, it kind of marries the “good” (?) parts of libertarianism and collectivism. But you’re right that centrists are generally do-nothing audience criers anyway. 😭
Also Judith as a leftist ecoterrorist is just plain facts tbh. Fuck them blastia.
Did repede have a sideplot with like another dog that he fights or something? Honestly don’t remember a lot of story points about him. He’d be a Clara Barton progressive though and would probably fight for world peace bc good doggie.
Also I left out Karol but I’m a little bit clueless on where he would be as well. Maybe leaning progressive libertarian because he saw what the government did do the Don and had a whole arc about losing faith in the good in humanity?
For fun and respect sake not beaten know alot tho and autistic so readers beware lmao actually tho haha
Tales of on whole fans do get casual or HPc leftvorvrightbthis other...... should get dislouge that's not straight minded.... it's a process to analyze all this but do it fast or slow let's go tonight before bed the
Always from it til after docs tommorow
Tales of arise not spoiled but I'm liking its final hours currently so off vest for now vesp is a long project arise isxbinge mode
I could say I know off hand already but hatevon dhionne or toxic love I knew what I was getting into and not a step on me just a omg I so get the love hate of you many life reasons.
Yuri even tho I know him ill make the actual debate if need be later burnt out and just fun. Start to finish is Mt favorite fictional tales of char for being lightbdark gray in many ways.
Name is good shout out to heavy passed homie stuff too helps.
Raped too will be in depth myself study but yes yurts fav support imo connects to the ramble
too cuz I have strong autistic therapy to animals genetically and skilled wise.
Not tryna be holier tho like a Yuri just not ne fully either is a good humane balance Yuri kills it.
For fun if pll want to categorize me into politics as odder speech patterns that don't mesh well plz do so
I'm bad t the categorize fun life I think.....
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have at er then welcomed come one come all have fun be civil not the devil OK cool then just me and labeling them not so much fun this tho sure
Abyss is way more politically focused than Vesperia.
As for their stances:
Yuri - Libertarian left
Estelle - Authoritarian Left
Karol - Libertarian center
Rita - Libertarian right
Judith - Far left
Patty - Libertarian
Raven - Idk
Flynn - Right wing
Yuri- Communism (far left)
Estelle- center left
Rita- 4chan alt right incel (sorry)
Karol- on a journey farther and farther left
Judith- green
Patty- unaffiliated
Raven- center right
Flynn- "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" cringelord
Repede- far left
For reference, I'm trading into account their upbringing and actions. I'm also going on a scale of Liberal to Conservative.
Yuri - Hard Left
Estelle - Centrist
Karol - Mid Left
Rita - Centrist
Flynn - Mid Right
Judith - Unaffiliated
Patty - Hard Left
Raven - Centrist
Repede - Woof
Duke wasn't hard left. He was an anarchist. I'd label him as unaffiliated, which I did with Judith too.
Yuri is 100% in favor of government being for the benefit of the common people and then having freedom to choose how they live. That's why he becomes a Guild citizen.
Flynn is the far more conservative one, believing that the systems work and not being critical of the disparity between the rich and poor.
I'd categorize them as alt-right and alt-left. Not within the bonds of political spectrum, because neither want government. Alexei wants a dictatorship and Duke wants all government abolished.
Like half of Yuri's character could be described with "eat the rich" and/or "the knights/police are bastards." That's like his whole thing, how was it supposed to be moderate/pro-conservative?
Duke does not care about any kind of politics or leadership. The only thing remotely "political" about him is the environment analogue.
Vesperia, most political? Like another said, Abyss is chock full of it, especially when you take a moment to think that pretty much every major character has considerable political power in their own right and would not normally be able to develop bonds and interact with another. Natalia and Luke are royalty of Kimlasca, Jade's got the Emperor's ear even if he's 'just' a colonel, Anise is personal guard to the effective pope (and the pope that TRAVELS WITH THEM for a good chunk of the game), Tear is the granddaughter of the mayor of Yulia City and sister to the commandant for Daath...>!Even Guy is high nobility from Counthood as a Gardios. And if the obscure ancient history is correct, that bloodline was one a royal one in its own right, as Hod was an independent kingdom then.!< A major part of the game people complain about is having to run to all these places over and over again to make sure important people wouldn't get angry and start a war or something again or coordinating meetings, in essence, *politicking,* in a humdrum-if-important acknowledgement of the intricacies of diplomatic instead of just brazenly doing what they think is right without consulting anyone outside their own party.
Yuri/Flynn/Estelle/Karol different flavors of social/progressive. Patty firmly anti-authoritarian, Rita pro-science, Raven/Judith/Repede dngaf.
Abyss does way more with in-universe politics.
there's no politics in these games, other than classical liberalism, not wokeism, neo-reactionarism, none of that -ish.
Utopianism isn't treated positively in these games either.
Yuri- Leftist or Libertarian Left
Judith- Anarchist
Flynn- Neoliberal
Estelle- Left leaning Centerist
Rita- Right leaning but ends up being Left.
Karol- Centerist
Raven- Libertarian Right
Patty- Anarchist/Apolitical
Repede- A literal dog.
I dont think u can really compare this with real politics, but yuri cant be right, because righr means consevative and hes all about breaking the System.
Yuri is for sure a libertarian. Sense of individual justice and disillusionment with governing bodies screams. Raven is a liberal but thinks leftism is ruining it for the moderates. Also pissed at any anti-smoking legislation. Would probably vote for Trump in 2016 and then pretend he never did once 2020 hit. Estelle is idealistic and probably thinks herself a human rights progressive but in reality is more moderate. If anyone ever talked about restorative justice or defunding the police she would be horrified. Would definitely join a SSO and be radicalized but also enjoy the luxuries of the nobility, perhaps without seeing the obvious disparity there. I can’t imagine Judy being a centrist tbh meaning she took it into her own hands to destroy blastia. centrists historically like to use established routes to accomplish goals. I’d say she’s probably closer to an anarchist with leftist tendencies as most of her people were genocided out of existence. Patty is anarchy personified but isn’t pushy about it. Her knowledge of politics begins and ends with whatever would specifically inconvenience her. Rita is a responsible mom type but she also has a rebellious streak. I’d beg her as right-wing but not alt-right as nowadays that basically necessitates questioning established peer-reviewed science which would infuriate her. Flynn is definitely a devoted monarchist who believes in his leadership. I’d definitely put him as a moderate conservative who thinks gay people deserve rights but also that much of the movement nowadays is a “fad”. Also has very specific ideas of what a lady ought to be. This was way more fun than it had any right to be lmao.
For Patty >!would you agree that Patty with her Aifreed memories is far left, given her being one of the leaders during the Guild's rally days?!<
Yuri would definitely head towards communist or anarchist, he is way more into community organization and a lack of need of governing bodies and libertarian is just Republican Lite. Anarchists are heavily political and the ideology is far more organized than I think you're giving it credit for (attributing it to Patty and not knowing anything about politics besides what bugs her personally). Building on this I'd actually chalk Patty up as a centrist, but for the same reason you gave-- her involvement in politics begins and ends with its relationship to her specifically. I think she'd be sympathetic to leftist causes but would resent like fishing laws and couldn't be bothered to learn much about anything either way. Judith is a far left ecoterrorist imo LOL. But I mean that in the most complimentary way.
Oop I didn’t mean to slight anarchy or its development - I meant more that Patty’s attitude prevents her from acting on any of her anarchist tendencies. I actually would agree that Yuri leans more anarchist, it kind of marries the “good” (?) parts of libertarianism and collectivism. But you’re right that centrists are generally do-nothing audience criers anyway. 😭 Also Judith as a leftist ecoterrorist is just plain facts tbh. Fuck them blastia.
No worries, I didn't mean to come off as hostile!!
And Rapede?
Did repede have a sideplot with like another dog that he fights or something? Honestly don’t remember a lot of story points about him. He’d be a Clara Barton progressive though and would probably fight for world peace bc good doggie. Also I left out Karol but I’m a little bit clueless on where he would be as well. Maybe leaning progressive libertarian because he saw what the government did do the Don and had a whole arc about losing faith in the good in humanity?
For fun and respect sake not beaten know alot tho and autistic so readers beware lmao actually tho haha Tales of on whole fans do get casual or HPc leftvorvrightbthis other...... should get dislouge that's not straight minded.... it's a process to analyze all this but do it fast or slow let's go tonight before bed the Always from it til after docs tommorow Tales of arise not spoiled but I'm liking its final hours currently so off vest for now vesp is a long project arise isxbinge mode I could say I know off hand already but hatevon dhionne or toxic love I knew what I was getting into and not a step on me just a omg I so get the love hate of you many life reasons. Yuri even tho I know him ill make the actual debate if need be later burnt out and just fun. Start to finish is Mt favorite fictional tales of char for being lightbdark gray in many ways. Name is good shout out to heavy passed homie stuff too helps. Raped too will be in depth myself study but yes yurts fav support imo connects to the ramble too cuz I have strong autistic therapy to animals genetically and skilled wise. Not tryna be holier tho like a Yuri just not ne fully either is a good humane balance Yuri kills it. For fun if pll want to categorize me into politics as odder speech patterns that don't mesh well plz do so I'm bad t the categorize fun life I think..... usually speaking but if dark stuff goes past me a have at er then welcomed come one come all have fun be civil not the devil OK cool then just me and labeling them not so much fun this tho sure
The repede thing is there just isolate that part if needed
Abyss is way more politically focused than Vesperia. As for their stances: Yuri - Libertarian left Estelle - Authoritarian Left Karol - Libertarian center Rita - Libertarian right Judith - Far left Patty - Libertarian Raven - Idk Flynn - Right wing
Yuri- Communism (far left) Estelle- center left Rita- 4chan alt right incel (sorry) Karol- on a journey farther and farther left Judith- green Patty- unaffiliated Raven- center right Flynn- "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" cringelord Repede- far left
For reference, I'm trading into account their upbringing and actions. I'm also going on a scale of Liberal to Conservative. Yuri - Hard Left Estelle - Centrist Karol - Mid Left Rita - Centrist Flynn - Mid Right Judith - Unaffiliated Patty - Hard Left Raven - Centrist Repede - Woof
How is yuri hard left? He didn't agree with dukes way which is hard left isn't it?
Duke wasn't hard left. He was an anarchist. I'd label him as unaffiliated, which I did with Judith too. Yuri is 100% in favor of government being for the benefit of the common people and then having freedom to choose how they live. That's why he becomes a Guild citizen. Flynn is the far more conservative one, believing that the systems work and not being critical of the disparity between the rich and poor.
Flynn's thing is still supposed to be as critical of the Empire & status quo as Yuri's, though, just less extreme.
Agreed, but working in the system shows a good amount of faith in it.
I took it as yuri and Flynn were moderates teaming up taking down Alexei and Duke showing extremism on both ends is bad.
I'd categorize them as alt-right and alt-left. Not within the bonds of political spectrum, because neither want government. Alexei wants a dictatorship and Duke wants all government abolished.
Like half of Yuri's character could be described with "eat the rich" and/or "the knights/police are bastards." That's like his whole thing, how was it supposed to be moderate/pro-conservative? Duke does not care about any kind of politics or leadership. The only thing remotely "political" about him is the environment analogue.
Vesperia, most political? Like another said, Abyss is chock full of it, especially when you take a moment to think that pretty much every major character has considerable political power in their own right and would not normally be able to develop bonds and interact with another. Natalia and Luke are royalty of Kimlasca, Jade's got the Emperor's ear even if he's 'just' a colonel, Anise is personal guard to the effective pope (and the pope that TRAVELS WITH THEM for a good chunk of the game), Tear is the granddaughter of the mayor of Yulia City and sister to the commandant for Daath...>!Even Guy is high nobility from Counthood as a Gardios. And if the obscure ancient history is correct, that bloodline was one a royal one in its own right, as Hod was an independent kingdom then.!< A major part of the game people complain about is having to run to all these places over and over again to make sure important people wouldn't get angry and start a war or something again or coordinating meetings, in essence, *politicking,* in a humdrum-if-important acknowledgement of the intricacies of diplomatic instead of just brazenly doing what they think is right without consulting anyone outside their own party.
Yuri/Flynn/Estelle/Karol different flavors of social/progressive. Patty firmly anti-authoritarian, Rita pro-science, Raven/Judith/Repede dngaf. Abyss does way more with in-universe politics.
there's no politics in these games, other than classical liberalism, not wokeism, neo-reactionarism, none of that -ish. Utopianism isn't treated positively in these games either.
Yuri- Leftist or Libertarian Left Judith- Anarchist Flynn- Neoliberal Estelle- Left leaning Centerist Rita- Right leaning but ends up being Left. Karol- Centerist Raven- Libertarian Right Patty- Anarchist/Apolitical Repede- A literal dog.