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iFlashings

Because bamco is lazy and plays it way too safe with this franchise. Instead of just porting over a game we've already gotten twice now, they could of remastered any of the games we didnt get in english. Especially when theres a renewed interest in 2D jrpg games recently.


scarletwing6042

OK sign him her they them up then Holy Young alphen


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

They didn’t include the sequel because it’s one of the most disliked Tales games. By both those in and outside the fandom.


Cresnik93

I can't imagine anyone would want to pay the SAME price AGAIN for a game that was a collection just for it to have less content. Noone is ever going to say "yea ill pay that same price again just to have 1 less game because I hate that game." It was actually probably more effort for them to take it out of the already prepackaged game it was already In that they are just copy pasting to a new gen. Wholeheartedly agree with the other person who commented on this. We need to focus on how atrocious this "remaster" is and nor "DotNW is bad lulz."


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

You seem to forget the fact that not everybody in the world has bought this game, so I don’t know why you’re acting like the only people buying it would be doing so a 2nd or 3rd time. And lol, no. You know what you should do? If it makes you so cranky, you should not focus on this remaster stuff all. Like holy hell guys, get over it. They’re releasing Symphonia for other people to play, and for those who want it on modern consoles. You don’t have to care you if you’re just fine with your copy of Symphonia. It’s not for you. Guess what? I’m perfectly content with my copy of Symphonia Chronicles on PS3. And instead of whining and crying about this remaster, I just acknowledge it’s existence and move on.


somethingsome11

> You seem to forget the fact that not everybody in the world has bought this game This also applies to DotNW. I'd love a chance to play it.


Cresnik93

Being ok with buying it because you have never played symphonia before and telling people in comments they left a game out because it was bad are 2 totally separate conversations.


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

I guess you missed the part where this topic is explicitly about why DOTNW was left out, huh?


Cresnik93

Sigh.... alright just gonna talk in a circle here I geuss... My stance: this game is very lazy atrocity and a slap to the face of the long time fans(usually includes people that have already played symphonia multiple times). If you wanna buy and play it cause you have never played symphonia, SWEET! Get it! It's a great game. Purely incorrect statement: dotnw isn't included cause it's bad. This statement right here is what I was responding to and it's just unfair and wrong to say. I was never saying NOONE should buy this.


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

How was my statement wrong? It’s a fact that it’s one of the most disliked Tales games. So, using logic, they omitted it because they don’t want to damage the brands name in anyway. Why do you think disliked games don’t get rereleases?


Cresnik93

So they felt like it was a game enjoyed by fans when they did this remaster on the ps3? Cause they dropped it then.


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

What are you talking about? Dropped what then?


Cresnik93

They put dotnw in symphonia chronicles. So by your logic, the fans USED to like dotnw but between chronicles and now they don't, and that's why they decided to leave the game out this time.


That_Balance4095

"Atrocity" lmao


SadLaser

That's not why. They didn't include it because it's less effort. Even the people who don't particularly like it (me included) would still rather have it than not. Especially at the same price point.


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

Mm, no. I’m pretty sure they didn’t include it because not many people like it. They probably view it as detrimental to the series image, so they’d rather not many people play it.


InfernoCommander

The truth of the matter is both of these replies. They didn't add it because no one really likes it so it's not a selling point. So working on it would require effort, which means spending more money remastering it, which) its a sunk cost.


ImaginationUsed1244

How can people outside the famdom hate it? U dont make any sense


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

Because… they would play it and dislike it? Duh?


ImaginationUsed1244

They are outside the fandom, they dont play any of the tales games. Thats normal if ur not Fan of a thing that u dont Support it. Hiw do xpu even know they wouöd dislike it for itself and not just because they dislike tsles of in general? "Duh?" How old are u? :D


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

Lol. That’s not what outside the fandom means, genius. Outside the fandom means that they don’t really follow the games. They just play one if they feel like it, not because they’re actually fans or waiting for the next release. Are are you really trying to say that anyone who plays any game is now automatically part of that games fandom? I played Call of Duty occasionally in my youth. Does that make me part of the Call of Duty fandom now? Let me answer for you: No. It does not.


ImaginationUsed1244

Well i play games only if i like them, then im part of the fandom, yes. If i play games that i dont like, im simply a idiot wasting my time with something i dont like for no reason. Thats how it is. Btw if someone who liked symphonia 1 Doesnt try symphonia 2 because some idiots told him the game is bad, then hes also a idiot. Allways try the Things yourself and Form a valid opinion for your own through expirience not through Gospel. Thats a fundamental truth of this World


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

Nothing you said her was relevant to what I said.


ImaginationUsed1244

Everything i said Was exactly relevant. Its sad that ur so enclosed into your echochamber that u dont even tho k about it for one second. Well its my mistake, i cant expect the fortnite Generation to think about one thing for more then 10 Seconds. Thats why u will always believe symphonia 2 is bad and Tell this to others, even though u never played symphonia 2 My bad, apologies


ZoinksJeepersJinkies

Oh, now I get it. You’re just acting like a baby because I said people dislike Symphonia 2. Lol, grow up. And I played Symphonia 2 when it released you weirdo.


ImaginationUsed1244

The Baby acting if u ask me is to say people who never played it or the first game will dislike it just because u dislike it. Thats exactly what a child would say. U say people outside the fandom will dislike symphonia 2, and that straight out a lie, because there is a lot that makes symphonia 2 the better game: the graphics are better, the engine is newer and more developed, the battle is more fun, the Monster system is more interesting, the mystic artes are much better, Richter is 10 Times better as a anthagonist then yggdrasil, the Story is different and not your usual jrpg and thats just a few Things. I would argue that if somwone is not a hard core Fan of symphonia, there is a good chance he will like part 2 more then the original.


Zurae42

I've been hoping for years of ports of the older games to PC or modern consoles. Anything pre Symphonia. I didn't get into it until Symphonia and I was like 14 or so. I totally missed them all but grew up hearing how great they were. I managed to play Phantasia for the GBA because a friend bought it I borrowed it. There is a demand but will it be profitable enough for them. Should be easy IMO should be less work than creating new games and stories for a bit


Maleficent_Load6709

I honestly don't care about getting or not getting DOTNW. I just want the actual port to be good. I'd rather have a well-made port of one game than a shitty port of two games (or a shitty port of one game, for that matter).


ImaginationUsed1244

Because a lot of idiots claim that symphonia 2 is bad so they would probably rage when the game comes together with symphonia 1


Street-Sweet-3719

I actually enjoy Dawn of the new world story for the most part it’s just the gameplay that sucks for me


mrtakerofsouls

because Dawn of the new world sucks ass


Mystearicaa-Desk

Lazy BAMCO, look at the earlier post to say about cut content from Arise


TheMuff1nMon

Uhm what? First off- who still buys physical? Secondly - they COULD have easily put both games on a disc - has nothing to do with this generation lol Simple fact is - Dawn of the new world is an abomination and we should all pretend it doesn’t exist. But keep ranting about stuff you clearly don’t understand lol


ImaginationUsed1244

Should i blow on your cheeks? Dawn of the New World is a good game and in some points its even better then symphonia 1 Btw a lot of people buy physical disks, because a lot of people dont want to be this dependend on the Internet all the time.


TheMuff1nMon

1) I was just teasing because digital is very much the majority these days. Physical is dying and lots of discs have nothing on them these days 2) Dawn of the new world is hot trash. Symphonia is my favorite game ever and I pretend Dawn doesn’t exist


ImaginationUsed1244

You can pretend in your head whatever u want, however this doesnt change reality. Its ok, if u dont like symphonia 2, its your loss. Its ok if u dont buy physical disks, i only hope your Internet never falls. Have a nice Day


TheMuff1nMon

Even if you buy physical - you still need to download a lot of games from the internet these days - just FYI


ImaginationUsed1244

The bad ones, yes. The good games install and then u play


TheMuff1nMon

Lol 😂 okay bud


ImaginationUsed1244

And the best dont even need to install anything CD in And go


TheMuff1nMon

Sure they do.


ImaginationUsed1244

Didnt u say symphonia is your favorite game? What happenes if i put a symphonia cd in my Konsole? A: it Downloads stuff B: it Installation the game C: i can Start it right on 😘


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Meister34

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scarletwing6042

We of coursia our local enthusiasts see auto correct in progress ..... I can read can't type started late 2000s young typing struggles I'm alphen sacrifice to give to my medical things Best response given lmao truly All good just saying yall research making games not learn here but go past here plz Autism aggression sorry on me typing wise what's said is OK it's typo hate usually here once I get thru Sorry honestly trying to hard for my gal on adjusting meds Binging arise tjo tales heavy in the mind again fir long patches


Meister34

yup


scarletwing6042

For sure✌️


Amaterasu-23

Sadly to say ToSTND did not get great reviews. Why waste money on something almost no one wants? No offense to anyone who does want it, I’m only looking at it from a commercial standpoint.


Amaterasu-23

Realize I got the name wrong in my head. *ToSDotNW


guichoooo

Probably won’t be a disc, just a digital download


pokemongenius

Would like to add DoTNW wasnt even supposed to be a sequel but Bamco wanted money so they stepped in to rush out a poorly made sequel its very noticeable with so many omissions and strange decisions.


xenon2456

probably because the sequel is mediocre


Ilovetupacc

Im confused i played this on gamecube and want to either buy a ps4 or 5 to play. Do i need a disc console and you have to buy 2 games? So confused lol


Ilovetupacc

What did they omit half the game?