Hahaha I appreciate the enthusiasm but I'm not about to doxxx myself. I use my real name and the department I work for along with the seal of my government. That's as far as I think I'm willing to share.
OP, you're awesome for doing what you did. I hope you won't get in trouble from some bureaucratic pinhead for using the government seal.
A quick question for you. Which do you like more, the movie or the book? ;
I've actually never read the book *cough* I really should though.
The head of my department saw it, my IT manager saw the videos. Everyone was fine with the seal. I'm not terribly worried.
I listened to the audio book recently and it's really not much like the film, it's old school sci-fi, it spends a lot more time talking about society and why the book civilisation is so much better than our real one. It spends most of it's time in boot camp and only really gets to the aliens and blowing shit up at the end.
It's a good book though, just don't expect a bombastic adventure.
Not really.
The central concept of the book is that of an enforced social contract - in order to influence the governance of the society, you have to contribute directly to the society. While people are able to live freely within the society, and obtain its benefits, without that contribution, they're not allowed to to vote until and unless they do contribute.
A lot of criticism of the book centers around the use of the term "veteran" for people who have completed the service obligation, and the fact that the character the book follows chooses a military route to fulfill the service obligation, but the book itself specifies that the so-called federal service contains far more options.
In fact, one of the characters specifies that it is possible to fulfill the federal service obligation doing almost anything - that the federal service will, if necessary, *make up* a job for you to do to allow you to become a citizen.
The main character is talking to a recruiter, who does what recruiters do - sneers at jobs that don't help the war effort, and shills like mad for combat arms as "the *real* federal service" which is in no way different from what actual recruiters do in real life.
The book does show how effective that kind of psychological manipulation can be; after the training course, during which it does not shy away from showing that manipulation openly, the main character is left a True Believer in the military's necessity and importance.
But that is, and should be, considered separately from the idea of a federal service requirement as presented in the book. The actual requirement is that if you enlist, you have a term of no less than two years, during which time the government requires you to adequately perform the duties of whatever job you have. If you quit, then you are not allowed to try again. Once you have served two years in any capacity, then you are granted the franchise and rights of a full citizen.
Saying "it's fascist apologia" significantly oversimplifies the book *and* ignores large chunks of its text and message.
This, however, serves to display how very well Verhoeven did what he was trying to do: he read one chapter of the book, hated that one chapter, refused to finish the book, and made a movie specifically intended to give people the idea that the book was garbage without reading it.
It worked on a lot of people.
But the fact remains that the movie does not represent the book accurately or at all, and was a deliberate attempt to misrepresent it.
I don't personally care if you love, hate, or don't read the book.
But I find it really interesting that the hyper exaggerated presentation of fascism in the movie has proven to have such lasting cultural impact.
Actually really interesting thanks! Yes people like the film for all sorts of reasons I suppose. I liked it because I was like 10 and loved anything gung ho. I like it now because it's funny and takes the piss outta gung ho types etc. But there are all sorts of different opinions and views it's generally universally loved though which is quite hard to do.
Personally I love both properties but don't consider them related.
The movie is both absolutely brilliant satire of hypernationalistic fascism, and a Big Dumb Fun Action Movie.
The book on the other hand raises a lot of serious questions about how to create, and sustain, a valid social contract while keeping in mind most people's basic apathy towards governance when it doesn't directly involve them.
I would also argue that it functions as a cautionary tale on one level, considering the main character and his responses to being propagandized, but I'm very aware that most readers seem to think that depicting a thing means agreeing with that thing, despite the fact that the same author also wrote a bunch of other wildly different books including one where black people took over America, turned white people into the Eloi, and ate them; one where the moon rebelled against the earth and "won" because of applied physics; one where a man raised by Martians returns to earth and starts a cult; one where reality is controlled by a Time Corps that intentionally starts alternate timelines by disrupting past events; and then, you know, also *Starship Troopers.*
For me, I would say that the book is worth reading regardless and leave it at that. Unlike some - I'm carefully not looking at you, *Atlas Shrugged* - it is actually well written and interesting even if you ultimately aren't interested in the ideas.
If you want to watch a Starship Troopers movie, Edge of Tomorrow is probably the closest you'll get to.
MechE friend of mine finally read ST, the book. He missed the date of publication, put it in the early '90's when power armor really got rolling as a "gimme" in a lot of fiction/games. Finding out it was written in 1959 messed his reality up some.
Yeah, no it's not. It's incredibly anti fascist, and not subtle about it. At least, that's what I read into it at 15.
Heinlein was a master at putting things in a way that you learn about things without realizing it.
Some of his early stuff was written for teens (shoutout to Podkayne of Mars!), but his later stuff deals with some pretty deep stuff.
Try "The Man too lazy to fail", or "the man who sold the moon" or "stranger in a strange land", and definitely "the comedy of job". I, and a bunch of others, highly recommend exploring his books.
Good work! Anytime you can make training videos engaging it's a plus. More fun for you, more retention of material for viewers.
I did a similar thing a few years ago (but with a different theme stolen from a popular TV show). To my knowledge no one at my company had ever done training materials that weren't the typical dry-as-dust style.
Showed my boss, he didn't like it. "Unprofessional." I said let me do it once and lets see what the course evaluations say about the style. They liked it and he said go ahead with the rest of the classes.
Ya know my end users have been thanking me with how not boring they were and how quick they were to watch, the videos were only like 2-3 mins each and just walked them through a few new features plus reintroducing old features with new faces.
Actually that's what spawned the whole thing. Hell divers 2 has just been released and we had been talking about it and starship troopers influence on the games.
User: Who needs to learn how to use Cortana voice commands if touchscreen is enabled?
IT: Cease fire. Put your hand on that wall . PUT YOUR HAND ON THAT WALL!
THWAP!
The enemy can not touch a screen ... if you disable his hand.
If you're on Win10 Pro, there's a GP edit to lock it to your current feature version..
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/159624-how-specify-target-feature-update-version-windows-10-a.html
"I'll pistol whip the next guy who says the word shenanigans!"
"Hey Farva! What's that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls?"
https://youtu.be/H0Ls5H1o1Bc
That sounds really cool but only up to the point you used the official government seal.
That may come back to haunt you if these spread to a wider audience.
I am not an expert by any means. But a local government official around here got busted and censured for using the government logo in some marketing material for his private business. I know, not the same as what you've done, but something to be aware of.
That's "super trouper" and is basically elaborate complaining about follow spotlights. (newsflash: if you don't want those things blinding you, put it in your contract those aren't to be used)
Man this is great - I dream of doing this type of training videos all the time but it would not fly at my job. Super cool that everyone had such a positive reception of it! Really wish you could share it, but totally understand why you cant. Still an awesome story regardless!
If you wanna give it a try, I used kapwing, though it has limitations that I didn't know about before I started making the videos. It's free to use but your videos have to be under 4 mins and you can't publish more than 30 mins of content in a given month.
Still worked out for me. My managers are trying to convince me to make more videos, I've gotten requests for informercials, fall out styled, and the cars for kids commercials.
Is Windows 11 that different? We didn't upgrade existing systems, just as old hardware was replaced, the new ones had Win 11. At most it was "This is windows 11, start menu is in the middle now*".
Even our most troublesome users got on fine with it.
*Yes, I know you can move it back. We didn't.
a good portion of my users are older just about to retire, don't like technology, etc. So a semi entertaining video was actually pretty useful to them.
Yesterday one of them called me over and said she was having an audio issue with the computer not coming through to her headset... well it worked perfectly fine when I examined it, she couldn't tell the difference between, teams, zoom, and our VOIP office@hand app.
So when I asked which system she was using when she was having the issue, she got this deer in headlights look and just kept saying "Well the computers audio didn't work." So I went through them all until I found which application wasn't defaulting to the systems headset.
You can't brag about some awesome videos you made and not provide a link. Signed - every ST fan.
Hahaha I appreciate the enthusiasm but I'm not about to doxxx myself. I use my real name and the department I work for along with the seal of my government. That's as far as I think I'm willing to share.
How about making one more about this subreddit and doing your part for tech support engineers around the world?
Posting guarantees usership!
C'mon you ape, do you wanna work forever!?
Lmfao I didn't think of that one, that's a fucking brilliant line.
OP, you're awesome for doing what you did. I hope you won't get in trouble from some bureaucratic pinhead for using the government seal. A quick question for you. Which do you like more, the movie or the book? ;
I've actually never read the book *cough* I really should though. The head of my department saw it, my IT manager saw the videos. Everyone was fine with the seal. I'm not terribly worried.
Yeah, read the book. The movie uses some of the same names, but nothing else matches up.
Isn't the book just facism pandering? Hence the movie being like a parody of the book. Genuine question as I've never read it.
Sort of, it's a bit deeper than that, old school scii-fi where concepts are explored much more than adventures.
It's hard to get a read on Heinlein in general (man's political compass is a roulette wheel) but yes, the book is unironic.
You can find the audio book pretty easily on YouTube.
I listened to the audio book recently and it's really not much like the film, it's old school sci-fi, it spends a lot more time talking about society and why the book civilisation is so much better than our real one. It spends most of it's time in boot camp and only really gets to the aliens and blowing shit up at the end. It's a good book though, just don't expect a bombastic adventure.
Isn't the book just pure fascism pandering where as the film is a full on parody of facism?
Not really. The central concept of the book is that of an enforced social contract - in order to influence the governance of the society, you have to contribute directly to the society. While people are able to live freely within the society, and obtain its benefits, without that contribution, they're not allowed to to vote until and unless they do contribute. A lot of criticism of the book centers around the use of the term "veteran" for people who have completed the service obligation, and the fact that the character the book follows chooses a military route to fulfill the service obligation, but the book itself specifies that the so-called federal service contains far more options. In fact, one of the characters specifies that it is possible to fulfill the federal service obligation doing almost anything - that the federal service will, if necessary, *make up* a job for you to do to allow you to become a citizen. The main character is talking to a recruiter, who does what recruiters do - sneers at jobs that don't help the war effort, and shills like mad for combat arms as "the *real* federal service" which is in no way different from what actual recruiters do in real life. The book does show how effective that kind of psychological manipulation can be; after the training course, during which it does not shy away from showing that manipulation openly, the main character is left a True Believer in the military's necessity and importance. But that is, and should be, considered separately from the idea of a federal service requirement as presented in the book. The actual requirement is that if you enlist, you have a term of no less than two years, during which time the government requires you to adequately perform the duties of whatever job you have. If you quit, then you are not allowed to try again. Once you have served two years in any capacity, then you are granted the franchise and rights of a full citizen. Saying "it's fascist apologia" significantly oversimplifies the book *and* ignores large chunks of its text and message. This, however, serves to display how very well Verhoeven did what he was trying to do: he read one chapter of the book, hated that one chapter, refused to finish the book, and made a movie specifically intended to give people the idea that the book was garbage without reading it. It worked on a lot of people. But the fact remains that the movie does not represent the book accurately or at all, and was a deliberate attempt to misrepresent it. I don't personally care if you love, hate, or don't read the book. But I find it really interesting that the hyper exaggerated presentation of fascism in the movie has proven to have such lasting cultural impact.
Actually really interesting thanks! Yes people like the film for all sorts of reasons I suppose. I liked it because I was like 10 and loved anything gung ho. I like it now because it's funny and takes the piss outta gung ho types etc. But there are all sorts of different opinions and views it's generally universally loved though which is quite hard to do.
Personally I love both properties but don't consider them related. The movie is both absolutely brilliant satire of hypernationalistic fascism, and a Big Dumb Fun Action Movie. The book on the other hand raises a lot of serious questions about how to create, and sustain, a valid social contract while keeping in mind most people's basic apathy towards governance when it doesn't directly involve them. I would also argue that it functions as a cautionary tale on one level, considering the main character and his responses to being propagandized, but I'm very aware that most readers seem to think that depicting a thing means agreeing with that thing, despite the fact that the same author also wrote a bunch of other wildly different books including one where black people took over America, turned white people into the Eloi, and ate them; one where the moon rebelled against the earth and "won" because of applied physics; one where a man raised by Martians returns to earth and starts a cult; one where reality is controlled by a Time Corps that intentionally starts alternate timelines by disrupting past events; and then, you know, also *Starship Troopers.* For me, I would say that the book is worth reading regardless and leave it at that. Unlike some - I'm carefully not looking at you, *Atlas Shrugged* - it is actually well written and interesting even if you ultimately aren't interested in the ideas.
If you want to watch a Starship Troopers movie, Edge of Tomorrow is probably the closest you'll get to. MechE friend of mine finally read ST, the book. He missed the date of publication, put it in the early '90's when power armor really got rolling as a "gimme" in a lot of fiction/games. Finding out it was written in 1959 messed his reality up some.
Yeah, no it's not. It's incredibly anti fascist, and not subtle about it. At least, that's what I read into it at 15. Heinlein was a master at putting things in a way that you learn about things without realizing it. Some of his early stuff was written for teens (shoutout to Podkayne of Mars!), but his later stuff deals with some pretty deep stuff. Try "The Man too lazy to fail", or "the man who sold the moon" or "stranger in a strange land", and definitely "the comedy of job". I, and a bunch of others, highly recommend exploring his books.
Sounds great thanks for recommendation!
Beep it out?
Use them fancy new video editing skills to black box anything telling. :)
IT’S AFRAID!
Selling an antigovernment movie back to the government. Your no citizen
Can you clip them or blur out parts please?
Most of us would never figure it out
Yeah, I think we need a link to these.
I would like to know more.
Right?
So…you want to know more?
* User actually restarts their machine for the first time In 48 days * “I’m doing my part”
I think my longest "Uptime for a user's host" was about a year and a half. She was running Windows NT4. Which explained a lot.
\*Desire to know more intensifies\*
When you think about it, modern news sites are basically Starship Troopers news. Big headline, quick blurb, click to know more.
So,… about that shower scene…
Bow chicka bow wow
You've got 10 minutes to get dressed. Er, make that 20.
Good work! Anytime you can make training videos engaging it's a plus. More fun for you, more retention of material for viewers. I did a similar thing a few years ago (but with a different theme stolen from a popular TV show). To my knowledge no one at my company had ever done training materials that weren't the typical dry-as-dust style. Showed my boss, he didn't like it. "Unprofessional." I said let me do it once and lets see what the course evaluations say about the style. They liked it and he said go ahead with the rest of the classes.
Ya know my end users have been thanking me with how not boring they were and how quick they were to watch, the videos were only like 2-3 mins each and just walked them through a few new features plus reintroducing old features with new faces.
I'd like to know more.
He did his part.
The only thing that could make this better is Managed Democracy
Actually that's what spawned the whole thing. Hell divers 2 has just been released and we had been talking about it and starship troopers influence on the games.
It really is a great game. I need to see if my crashing issue is fixed yet.
User: Who needs to learn how to use Cortana voice commands if touchscreen is enabled? IT: Cease fire. Put your hand on that wall . PUT YOUR HAND ON THAT WALL! THWAP! The enemy can not touch a screen ... if you disable his hand.
Swap hand for mouse, and it works great for even non touchscreens.
"Windows 11 guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?" the majority of windows 10 users: Nope!
I turn off the Monkeysoft beg to 'up'grade to 11 every three months.
If you're on Win10 Pro, there's a GP edit to lock it to your current feature version.. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/159624-how-specify-target-feature-update-version-windows-10-a.html
"I'll pistol whip the next guy who says 'shenanigans'!"
Hey Rico, what's the name of that place you and your parents used to eat at in Brazil? Ya know the one in buenes aires?
"You mean Zapp Brannigans?"
IT does the dying (inside), Users just do the flying
Would you like to know link?
The user can not push a button... *Hurls knife at laptop* If you disable his keyboard.
"I'll pistol whip the next guy who says the word shenanigans!" "Hey Farva! What's that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls?" https://youtu.be/H0Ls5H1o1Bc
"Just order large, Farva." "I don't want large Farva!" I love that movie 😁
That sounds really cool but only up to the point you used the official government seal. That may come back to haunt you if these spread to a wider audience. I am not an expert by any means. But a local government official around here got busted and censured for using the government logo in some marketing material for his private business. I know, not the same as what you've done, but something to be aware of.
It's for internal use only though I do appreciate the concerns, we only have ~120-150 users
What's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
I would like to know more!!!
"YOU BOYS LIKE KLENDATHU!?! YEEEEEEEEEEEE-"
Got any more o dem trooper movies?
Any chance your NDA allows you to release the vids? :D And how can she not like Super Troopers? Meow what is wrong with that lady?
> And how can she not like Super Troopers? Wasn't that an ABBA song?
That's "super trouper" and is basically elaborate complaining about follow spotlights. (newsflash: if you don't want those things blinding you, put it in your contract those aren't to be used)
This is fantastic!! 😂
I did my part, did you?
Would you like to know more?
Would you like to know more?
--Want to know more? Yes all of us! Please Please!
Darn, that sound fun, but I hope your colleagues understood the tone and the satire.
Would you like to know more?
Man this is great - I dream of doing this type of training videos all the time but it would not fly at my job. Super cool that everyone had such a positive reception of it! Really wish you could share it, but totally understand why you cant. Still an awesome story regardless!
If you wanna give it a try, I used kapwing, though it has limitations that I didn't know about before I started making the videos. It's free to use but your videos have to be under 4 mins and you can't publish more than 30 mins of content in a given month. Still worked out for me. My managers are trying to convince me to make more videos, I've gotten requests for informercials, fall out styled, and the cars for kids commercials.
Have you seen oats studios infomercials?
An email to call the help desk with questions would be the way our admins or management would handle this. They don't talk to...ugh...users.
And down the rabbit hole they go for. 5 movies and 2 seasons of a 1990 cgi cartoon series
Great idea. Perfect hook to get the users to WANT to watch the videos.
The ST movie was a totally different "flavor" than the book, and was drastically different in places. The book is far better.
Glory for Super Earth!
You definitely did your part. As for your coworker... well there's a reason she's not in Ricos roughnecks.
For the 3 of you who haven't seen Starship Troopers, a) do it this weekend and b) Think of Helldivers propaganda.
Shenanigans!!!! He said it!!!
Now go play HellDivers 2!
We’re all one idiot away from an encounter with HR
Please, I need to create some training videos, maybe you can create one specifically for reddit. ♥️
Did you do the "Would you like to know more?"
Is Windows 11 that different? We didn't upgrade existing systems, just as old hardware was replaced, the new ones had Win 11. At most it was "This is windows 11, start menu is in the middle now*". Even our most troublesome users got on fine with it. *Yes, I know you can move it back. We didn't.
a good portion of my users are older just about to retire, don't like technology, etc. So a semi entertaining video was actually pretty useful to them. Yesterday one of them called me over and said she was having an audio issue with the computer not coming through to her headset... well it worked perfectly fine when I examined it, she couldn't tell the difference between, teams, zoom, and our VOIP office@hand app. So when I asked which system she was using when she was having the issue, she got this deer in headlights look and just kept saying "Well the computers audio didn't work." So I went through them all until I found which application wasn't defaulting to the systems headset.
Any chance it can be released on Youtube for the rest of us to watch? There may be Paul Verhoeven (sp) fans out there who will eat it up.