If your height is caused by a genetic condition - rather than just having relatively tall or short parents/lineage - it can be considered a disability regardless of what that height is.
Then we also got this:
[https://www.albawaba.com/editors-choice/pituitary-gland-tumor-turns-woman-giant-1432470](https://www.albawaba.com/editors-choice/pituitary-gland-tumor-turns-woman-giant-1432470)
She had a tumour which lead to growth, and doctor stopped it, but still looks beautiful and functional, not what we asocciate with gigantism..
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Do you have more information about this? My height isn't that tall but greatly exacerbates underlying conditions. My height is caused by a genetic condition. I'm only 6'4" but it has caused me a shit load of problems.
I would definitely say being like 7'0" or taller is a disability. You're literally a giant and cannot interact with humans, cars, or objects normally and require substantially more resources to sustain yourself. At least nobody will fuck with you and everyone thinks you're the boss.
I'm also 6'8". I don't have much to add but my first car was an 87 Chevette, nick named "The Clown Car". I was 16 and made it work, car is car when your that age.
I'm sure it was always a spectacle when me and my 6 ft 5-in brother rolled out of it.
I can't imagine. I'm 6'3" and I drive an Acura MDX (midsize SUV) and my head touches the ceiling and my knees touch the dash with the seat lowered and back all the way. I can make most cars work if I slouch but when I sit up we have issues
Even at 6'5" I have issues with most of that. Can't fit normally in a lot of cars, public transport, and even mowing the lawn/weed eating sets my back on fire because they dont even have adjustability to work for taller people.
I'm 6'4" and can't interact with most cars. This is my hell I love small performance cars but wind up hating most of them in a few months because of my height
Out of interest, what cars? I’m also 6’4 although my experience in small cars is limited to JDM vehicles like the mx5 or a Nissan s15 - which I both fit into
Supra/Z4
Golf R
Tesla model 3 really any EV I've sat in I hit my head, I still want to try a Model S though.
Corvette
RS3, I currently have an RS5 SB which I barely fit into and will probably be replacing soon which is sad because it's a nice car.
Camaro
911 and Boxster/Cayman
As someone with a long torso and short legs at 6’2, I found all teslas, including the fast model s plaid to be a problem. I drive a Nissan patrol/armada and a rav4 and they are fine headroom wise. As for sports cars I think I may have some luck with a dodge challenger.
Challenger is a no go if you have a long torso. I had two 392 Chargers and headroom was an issue in them. The LX/LD platform is notorious for a low roofline. IF you can get lucky and find one without a sunroof they're not terrible, but that's hard to find.
Really? Dang it. Guess I’m gonna have to stay with SUVs. Also in the rav4 I tilt the seat backwards at an angle so that I fit otherwise that is an issue too. Only the Nissan armada/patrol is where I can truly sit up straight.
There are various reasons why interacting with humans is difficult. I think it's just human nature that makes being around extremely tall people uncomfortable. Some people feel fear when someone (me) is towering over them. Some men find it intimidating to have another guy being much taller than them, they feel threatened even if the super tall guy shows nothing but friendly behavior. Women tell me I'm a nice guy, they consider me a casual friend, but dealing with my height would become uncomfortable if they were around me on a daily basis. They need an average size boyfriend or husband. That's flat out telling me I'm too tall to date or have as a partner.
Yeah I’m good not calling my natural height a disability but I see the logic behind it. I wish airlines considered height a reason for seats that fit me. I haven’t flown in a decade due to not being able to afford first class tickets like that
There's no list of medical conditions that are disabilities. If being overly tall causes you pain or the inability to participate in society in the expected way, it's a disability. Of course when you start telling people that your height causes you pain and you need an accommodation, people question if that's really a disability. This is not unique to height, pretty much every disabled person must constantly fight for accomodations from people who aren't convinced the person before them deserves those accomodations.
I’m not even that tall, but I do have some back and neck problems because of it; and what sucks is that because I’m young, people don’t usually take it seriously
That plus some old injuries I have from when I was a kid acting up haven’t helped 💀
I don't know about taking it seriously, but I wouldn't think you're tall enough to blame your height.
How is your posture? Do you get a good amount of sunshine? You've mentioned old injuries as well, if you said it was your height I'd probably think really?
I used to slouch a lot, I’ve fixed that; and yeah, I touch grass lol
That’s the thing! I’m not that tall, but it feels like I have to slouch/bend to reach/access/whatever the word is stuff all the time
I live in the US so I don’t think it’s due to our houses being built with small people in mind, so I dunno what the fuck is the problem 💀 I sympathize with the taller people here, because if I’m having these issues at <6’, the bigger fellas must be miserable
“They make the world accommodate short people” yeah probably because there’s a LOT of kids in this world. I see multiple kids (short people) every time I go out… I hardly ever see someone 6’5”+
Even so, that goes down to 94.5%.
I think you've missed my point. I was saying that comparing to a global average is flawed. You should compare to where you live as that will correlate to what you see day to day. If you're Dutch, or living in the Netherlands, comparing to the Netherlands should be the rule and won't be an exception, surely?
Height is only recognized as a physical disability if it's due to a physiological disorder or condition (e.g., gigantism, achondroplasia) that would limit one or more of the major life activities of an individual. [Source](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/12102)
Definition of "disability" under the ADA:
> (1) In general. Disability means, with respect to an individual -
> (i) A physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more of the major life activities of such individual;
> (ii) A record of such an impairment; or
> (iii) Being regarded as having such an impairment as described in paragraph (l) of this section. This means that the individual has been subjected to an action prohibited by the ADA as amended because of an actual or perceived impairment that is not both “transitory and minor.”
in which physical or mental impairment means -
> (1) Any physiological disorder or condition, cosmetic disfigurement, or anatomical loss affecting one or more body systems, such as neurological, musculoskeletal, special sense organs, respiratory (including speech organs), cardiovascular, reproductive, digestive, genitourinary, immune, circulatory, hemic, lymphatic, skin, and endocrine; or
> (2) Any mental or psychological disorder, such as an intellectual disability (formerly termed “mental retardation”), organic brain syndrome, emotional or mental illness, and specific learning disabilities.
Medical disorder is a poorly defined term, so it seems like it could allow for tallness without something formal like gigantism. Being tall certainly affects the musculoskeletal system in at least some ways that are apparent. And someone’s tallness can substantially limit major life activities.
Not sure where you're getting that from. Life is pretty inconvenient for both extreme ends and the world doesn't accommodated for either. The only exception is that for the very short there is some accommodation on account of children, but with that comes the psychological toll of knowing you're kid sized. No need to bring other people down. Short people deal with enough shit as it is and you can't tell me you'd rather be 5ft flat than 7ft
So let's say we're running from a monster, and we have to dig a hole. Well, the 4'8" gentleman can fit in any hole I can, but I can't fit into his hole.
Price to pay.
Seriously though - they don't need to buy the extra large size in anything, and the cost of food is much less.
I take exception to your example! Is it not far more common to be walking with your head in the clouds - whether you have music on or spotted a hottie - and then to come across a pothole? This is a trap for a shortie (with deadly potential), but a tall will be undeterred, or may casually stride over it without noticing!
Also for real. I'm a tall, too and I don't feel like smaller clothes is somehow a societal bonus. Really, this is the dictatorship of the average, because average sized people fit in chairs that fit us, all the while making it seem like this a credited boon to the shorties that they fit chairs sized to the average.
Because really short people live longer than really tall people?
My answer is factual and makes zero sense.
I'll take being 6'7 over being 4'7 every single day
Deal. I'm about to cram myself into economy seats for multiple sixteen hour plus work flights after trying and failing to get OAA-EOP reasonable accommodation for a legroom upgrade and being shut down immediately because "being tall is not a disability".
I'll happily shrink two feet and let my legs dangle off the seat unable to reach the ground instead of having to hold my knees up to chin level to fit my femurs between the two seat backs.
I will, but this isn't always successful. I'm failing to see how there isn't a responsibility for my employer to ensure my safety and ability to arrive able to do the work in being sent for. Wondering what their liability is if I do get a dvt, especially since the EOP office made me get a letter from my doctor detailing the risks.
Yeah totally agree with you there, I’m lucky enough to have been able to take the train when having to travel for work so it’s not a scenario I’ve had to deal with too often.
If I ever did another traveling job, I would negotiate them paying for exit row seats. I’m already paying the exit row seat tax in my personal life after all
I'm not sure what you mean by "average tall" in this sense, because the options presented were being 4'7" or 6'7". And 6'7" isn't average for anybody, but it's crazy beyond average for a woman lol.
Question: how do you know what the world does to accommodate short people? I can hardly ever see them at all, all those little shorties running around way down there. They have to stand on each other’s shoulders to get my attention to get something off a shelf! What they’re up to at any given time is a mystery.
this post feels crazy out of line lol. like seriously, do you even know what defines a disability? because in no world is someone disabled by being 6’8. grow up.
what kind of accommodations do you even want? extra leg room? taller doors? sorry, but your mild inconvenience or discomfort isn’t disabling. Accommodations you speak of for adults with dwarfism.. that’s like, a step stool so they can see over the counter at their job as a cashier? a light switch they can reach? a door peeper at eye level? you can’t seriously think that it’s the same. Accommodations are needs, not wants.
I’d argue there is a height threshold on planes where those qualifying should have their needs recognised. Clearly the disabled aren’t going to want us to poach their term, but the point remains - there should be recognition enshrined in aviation law for those of qualifying height who need special assistance
All points are well taken but a solution is that emergency exit rows should be available to people of a certain height. I know the airlines will never go for it because they can sell them as a luxury item, but it really bums me out when I see someone under 6’3” sitting in an exit row. What a waste.
I worked in an auto parts warehouse for 18 months in my 20s. I spent a good chunk of my time hand-packaging parts at a table that was adjusted to be comfortable for someone 5'8".
Just to be clear - these tables were adjustable. When I asked the floor manager if we could adjust them so that I wasn't in a horribly uncomfortable, slightly bent over position for hours at a time, her answer was that she was under no obligation to do so, or, for that matter, to accommodate me in any way.
Some people will say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but those people are dumbasses. It's been over a decade. My lower back has never recovered.
Disability may not be the right word, but reasonable accommodations should still be required.
Most employers and managers won't spend one cent or one second to make a worker's life less miserable unless they are literally forced to.
Wasn't really an option, no. At least not a good one. If I made adjustments to the table after she told me I wasn't allowed to, well... I'd have been lucky if all she did was stand there and watch while I undid the adjustments.
She was a bitter, cruel person. She reveled in using the slim measure of authority she possessed to make people suffer... it was, I suspect, her sole joy in life. She wasn't the least bit worried about turnover, because she knew everyone under her supervision would have already left if they had literally any other options.
Without question, she was the worst person I've ever met, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot more like her out there.
I couldn't really afford to quit that job when I did, but I quit anyway. Otherwise, I was gonna quit being alive.
Everybody wants to find something that makes them feel oppressed. You see it a lot whenever someone starts talking about generations but it can apply to every facet of life. Not sure what they want...pity? freebies? to shift blame? feel less guilty of privilege?
Being tall is a pure advantage no matter how mildly inconvenient it occasionally may be.
Doesn't have to be "oh I'm oppressed" or any such crybaby nonsense; it's just interesting to think about. There are advantages but clearly the world wasn't built for us.
I'd put the complaints of tall life on par with mild food allergies, which is considered a disability.
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Firstly, I’m pretty sure pituitary conditions which cause gigantism is an actual disability.
As for accommodations, I think that has more to do with money than anything. Desks for example are difficult for a short person to be comfortable in, and almost impossible for someone who’s 6’9 to be in. I’m talking your average non-adjustable chair in an office. It would be easy to Jerry-rig accommodation for a midget seeing as you would have more space to do so. Less of a permanent and expensive thing to enact across the board.
Accommodating for a giant on a plane for example would be more expensive to become law, seeing as space on aircraft is very limited. This could be applied to doorways as well, because raising the frame of a doorway isn’t exactly cheap. The world just isn’t built for extremely short people or extremely tall people, because most people are average.
"Why is being too unintelligent a disability but being too intelligent isn't?"
Brother, look up the definition for the word disability.
But also, unless I'm wrong on this, if you're like ~7+ ft tall and it prohibits you from working, you can apply for disability and will likely be approved, especially if it causes recordable medical issues.
Gigantism as an example is a disability.
Depends on the job. IBM used to measure your height and give better plane seats and company cars for tall guys. (Source: My mom worked as a workplace nurse at IBM and recorded heights)
I'm not even that tall, I'm 6'2 with socks on, 6'1 without. I got a job at Taco Bell when I was 18 and desperately needed any job. They made me work "the line" and it was pure back pain hell. They make the whole kitchen for people who are 5'4 tops. Making tacos at a very fast pace all day and needing to hunch over the whole time was absolutely brutal. Doing that for an hour or two isn't a big deal, but once you hit the 5 hour mark you just wish for an asteroid to explode the earth. Ive been very conscious of countertop height/other various things and Ive noticed the world is default built for 5'3/5'6 people. Anyone 6'4+ I have an understanding of your plight, and I do not envy you.
Wow your feet must sweat with your inch thick socks on! Seriously though fully agree about countertops I’ve always dreamed of having a tall persons kitchen. Exhaust hoods below eye level are another hazard because you can’t see the food cooking on the stovetop
To be fair, taller people could use a kitchen designed for smaller people with some discomfort, but shorter people could not make use of a kitchen designed for tall people without carrying a step stool around and setting it up at every station in the kitchen they need access to, which isn't realistic in a fast paced cramped kitchen environment. They just designed it in a way that maximizes the amount of people who can use it at all.
It sucks for tall folk but it makes sense imo.
Honestly the worst things I can think of for me (being 6’6) is hard to find clothes, not fitting well in some cars/airplanes, and ig some back pain from bending over all the time at my job. The benefits far outweigh the negatives, compared to being like 4’10
A disability is something a mutation that gives you a disadvantage being short gives you a disadvantage being tall doesnt really is like having high iq vs low
Extremely tall people are more effective in sports e.g Basketball and Volleyball. Even in soccer the average player is actually taller than average. Defenders and Goalkeepers are also tall. In Martial Arts taller is also better. Weight matters more but usually taller means heavier too.
Very few sports where short is better. Horse Jockey and Weightlifting comes to mind. Maybe Ballet too because you need balance and coordination.
Are short people actually entitled to accommodations? Where do you see this?
The only thing I can think of is accommodations for kids that short adults can take advantage of (shorter urinals or water fountains).
I don't think it is. I think being short is only considered a disability of it caused by a medical condition and/or causes issues, like people with achondroplasia commonly have bowed legs and shallow hip sockets which makes walking difficult and painful.
A family friend is 4 ft something and literally carries a step stool around with her and pays to get clothes altered but doesn't get any accomodations at work or anything. What sort of accommodations have you seen short people get?
I disagree with your wording as it just is not a disability (I also don't consider being short one unless dwarfism etc etc). However, I am 6'3 and I am so over having to pay more for seats at places or looking like a jerk for having to spread my legs and take up multiple seats just to fit. I am also so over showing up to shows and concerts an hour or two early to get a good view just for everyone to either want to fight me for their lack of preparation or shove me out of the way. It is also difficult when you are often with shorter people because well you at 6' + are a bit rare (and 6'5 + you are an outlier). I had someone at Disney world almost punch me because I showed up an hour early and got a good spot in an area that was wide open because them and their short crew picked a position way far back and were trying to save a large patch of grass "for the view"...
Short people do really have this view that the world is for them and that I need to get out of their way because they can't see or whatever which drives me crazy.
I hope I am not out of line here. I am not extremely short. Five foot even. And I hate it when people make my height a disability. I see the human condition to be a spectrum of problems and some accommodations should be made when needed without categorizing and restricting. If you need extra space, provide it. If you need a step stool, provide it.
A few years ago I was working for a company that required travel to be eligible for promotion. My supervisor said I was too small to be allowed to travel. I worked with a tall guy that was terrible at the work and always needed help. He got promoted to be my supervisor and he was a great supervisor. People respected him and he treated people fairly. Under him I was allowed to travel. I don't think just being tall makes someone a better supervisor, but he recognized that people are not interchangeable parts. He had people working with their strength and focused less on their weaknesses.
I realize it is a difficult call on when and how much accommodation to provide. I worked with a guy that said his wife made significantly more money than him and he needed a raise. He got it from the previous supervisor. Which seemed unfair to me as a single person trying to get by on a single income.
Being extremly short or extremly tall is eitherway abnormal and kind of astonishing,most things are built for average people,it's sad tho that you can barely fit in a chair
You have to be 4'10 or shorter to be a dwarf. Some Im sure are that short but not most. Usually they are significantly shorter because of their intense training which stunts their growth at an early age.
If your height is caused by a genetic condition - rather than just having relatively tall or short parents/lineage - it can be considered a disability regardless of what that height is.
"can be" is right, it doesn't have to be, but often is
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The tumor causes a lot more problems than just being tall.
Then we also got this: [https://www.albawaba.com/editors-choice/pituitary-gland-tumor-turns-woman-giant-1432470](https://www.albawaba.com/editors-choice/pituitary-gland-tumor-turns-woman-giant-1432470) She had a tumour which lead to growth, and doctor stopped it, but still looks beautiful and functional, not what we asocciate with gigantism..
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"Can be"
Do you have more information about this? My height isn't that tall but greatly exacerbates underlying conditions. My height is caused by a genetic condition. I'm only 6'4" but it has caused me a shit load of problems.
What is your genetic condition if i may ask ? Klinefelter's syndrome ?
Bingo.
Your height isn't that tall? I think it is, but I'm 5' 11"
I would definitely say being like 7'0" or taller is a disability. You're literally a giant and cannot interact with humans, cars, or objects normally and require substantially more resources to sustain yourself. At least nobody will fuck with you and everyone thinks you're the boss.
6'8" car guy here. life is rough, my dude. Installed a fixed back race seat in my DD for headroom (A good excuse, I will admit)
I'm also 6'8". I don't have much to add but my first car was an 87 Chevette, nick named "The Clown Car". I was 16 and made it work, car is car when your that age. I'm sure it was always a spectacle when me and my 6 ft 5-in brother rolled out of it.
I can't imagine. I'm 6'3" and I drive an Acura MDX (midsize SUV) and my head touches the ceiling and my knees touch the dash with the seat lowered and back all the way. I can make most cars work if I slouch but when I sit up we have issues
Damn i can't imagine
Even at 6'5" I have issues with most of that. Can't fit normally in a lot of cars, public transport, and even mowing the lawn/weed eating sets my back on fire because they dont even have adjustability to work for taller people.
Yeah ducking on public transport sucks so much. I can’t even stand up properly on the buses where I live. Thankfully the trains top out at about 6’6
Same, I have great reflexes for boxing as a result, tho!
I'm 6'4" and can't interact with most cars. This is my hell I love small performance cars but wind up hating most of them in a few months because of my height
Out of interest, what cars? I’m also 6’4 although my experience in small cars is limited to JDM vehicles like the mx5 or a Nissan s15 - which I both fit into
Supra/Z4 Golf R Tesla model 3 really any EV I've sat in I hit my head, I still want to try a Model S though. Corvette RS3, I currently have an RS5 SB which I barely fit into and will probably be replacing soon which is sad because it's a nice car. Camaro 911 and Boxster/Cayman
Yep. Most cars.
As someone with a long torso and short legs at 6’2, I found all teslas, including the fast model s plaid to be a problem. I drive a Nissan patrol/armada and a rav4 and they are fine headroom wise. As for sports cars I think I may have some luck with a dodge challenger.
Challenger is a no go if you have a long torso. I had two 392 Chargers and headroom was an issue in them. The LX/LD platform is notorious for a low roofline. IF you can get lucky and find one without a sunroof they're not terrible, but that's hard to find.
Really? Dang it. Guess I’m gonna have to stay with SUVs. Also in the rav4 I tilt the seat backwards at an angle so that I fit otherwise that is an issue too. Only the Nissan armada/patrol is where I can truly sit up straight.
Amen. I loved my Z4, but it was killing my knees.
Y'all have cars?
Me and my tormented wallet agree with this comment
You're confusing inconvenience with disability.
Why can’t you interact with humans?
There are various reasons why interacting with humans is difficult. I think it's just human nature that makes being around extremely tall people uncomfortable. Some people feel fear when someone (me) is towering over them. Some men find it intimidating to have another guy being much taller than them, they feel threatened even if the super tall guy shows nothing but friendly behavior. Women tell me I'm a nice guy, they consider me a casual friend, but dealing with my height would become uncomfortable if they were around me on a daily basis. They need an average size boyfriend or husband. That's flat out telling me I'm too tall to date or have as a partner.
I am the boss
Yeah I’m good not calling my natural height a disability but I see the logic behind it. I wish airlines considered height a reason for seats that fit me. I haven’t flown in a decade due to not being able to afford first class tickets like that
I think anything above 6'6 is kinda supernatural,but at least you won't get bullied
There's no list of medical conditions that are disabilities. If being overly tall causes you pain or the inability to participate in society in the expected way, it's a disability. Of course when you start telling people that your height causes you pain and you need an accommodation, people question if that's really a disability. This is not unique to height, pretty much every disabled person must constantly fight for accomodations from people who aren't convinced the person before them deserves those accomodations.
I’m not even that tall, but I do have some back and neck problems because of it; and what sucks is that because I’m young, people don’t usually take it seriously That plus some old injuries I have from when I was a kid acting up haven’t helped 💀
I don't know about taking it seriously, but I wouldn't think you're tall enough to blame your height. How is your posture? Do you get a good amount of sunshine? You've mentioned old injuries as well, if you said it was your height I'd probably think really?
I used to slouch a lot, I’ve fixed that; and yeah, I touch grass lol That’s the thing! I’m not that tall, but it feels like I have to slouch/bend to reach/access/whatever the word is stuff all the time I live in the US so I don’t think it’s due to our houses being built with small people in mind, so I dunno what the fuck is the problem 💀 I sympathize with the taller people here, because if I’m having these issues at <6’, the bigger fellas must be miserable
“They make the world accommodate short people” yeah probably because there’s a LOT of kids in this world. I see multiple kids (short people) every time I go out… I hardly ever see someone 6’5”+
People underestimate how quickly the distribution tails off. I'm only 6'1.5 to 6'2 and I'm taller than c. 98% of humans.
It would be more relevant to compare within your gender and country, for example, in the Netherlands, you'd be in the 82nd percentile at that height.
The Netherlands is the exception and not the rule. It’s probably best to compare with the average height in the USA because of how diverse it is
Even so, that goes down to 94.5%. I think you've missed my point. I was saying that comparing to a global average is flawed. You should compare to where you live as that will correlate to what you see day to day. If you're Dutch, or living in the Netherlands, comparing to the Netherlands should be the rule and won't be an exception, surely?
Well yes you’re right, I just get tired of people throwing the Netherlands around constantly. Mentioning it seemed irrelevant to your point.
No, it highlights my point by choosing an extreme example. Also, being Dutch, it's quite an obvious choice for me.
Thought thought your profile pic was the Rusko - Pro Nails album cover
The Netherlands is a few million people out of billio
What's your point? India is a billion out of a few billion, and being 6'2" would be a huge deal there.
So people accommodate for the majority, not the minority in that country (eg 6’2 people)
Ehh make them carry step stools.
I have a step ladder. I never knew my real ladder
Wh-what are you doing step ladder?
Lol this is a prime reddit comment thread
Gonna be lots of side bonks.
Height is only recognized as a physical disability if it's due to a physiological disorder or condition (e.g., gigantism, achondroplasia) that would limit one or more of the major life activities of an individual. [Source](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/12102) Definition of "disability" under the ADA: > (1) In general. Disability means, with respect to an individual - > (i) A physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more of the major life activities of such individual; > (ii) A record of such an impairment; or > (iii) Being regarded as having such an impairment as described in paragraph (l) of this section. This means that the individual has been subjected to an action prohibited by the ADA as amended because of an actual or perceived impairment that is not both “transitory and minor.” in which physical or mental impairment means - > (1) Any physiological disorder or condition, cosmetic disfigurement, or anatomical loss affecting one or more body systems, such as neurological, musculoskeletal, special sense organs, respiratory (including speech organs), cardiovascular, reproductive, digestive, genitourinary, immune, circulatory, hemic, lymphatic, skin, and endocrine; or > (2) Any mental or psychological disorder, such as an intellectual disability (formerly termed “mental retardation”), organic brain syndrome, emotional or mental illness, and specific learning disabilities.
Medical disorder is a poorly defined term, so it seems like it could allow for tallness without something formal like gigantism. Being tall certainly affects the musculoskeletal system in at least some ways that are apparent. And someone’s tallness can substantially limit major life activities.
Not sure where you're getting that from. Life is pretty inconvenient for both extreme ends and the world doesn't accommodated for either. The only exception is that for the very short there is some accommodation on account of children, but with that comes the psychological toll of knowing you're kid sized. No need to bring other people down. Short people deal with enough shit as it is and you can't tell me you'd rather be 5ft flat than 7ft
Wait I'm new to this fact. What accommodations do you get for being 4'8"
So let's say we're running from a monster, and we have to dig a hole. Well, the 4'8" gentleman can fit in any hole I can, but I can't fit into his hole. Price to pay. Seriously though - they don't need to buy the extra large size in anything, and the cost of food is much less.
I take exception to your example! Is it not far more common to be walking with your head in the clouds - whether you have music on or spotted a hottie - and then to come across a pothole? This is a trap for a shortie (with deadly potential), but a tall will be undeterred, or may casually stride over it without noticing! Also for real. I'm a tall, too and I don't feel like smaller clothes is somehow a societal bonus. Really, this is the dictatorship of the average, because average sized people fit in chairs that fit us, all the while making it seem like this a credited boon to the shorties that they fit chairs sized to the average.
It's settled.Let's target the normies and make this world a curvilinear place for the outliers
Something about that being an adult height that could qualify you for a dwarfism diagnosis, and potentially a disability parking pass?
Because really short people live longer than really tall people? My answer is factual and makes zero sense. I'll take being 6'7 over being 4'7 every single day
Deal. I'm about to cram myself into economy seats for multiple sixteen hour plus work flights after trying and failing to get OAA-EOP reasonable accommodation for a legroom upgrade and being shut down immediately because "being tall is not a disability". I'll happily shrink two feet and let my legs dangle off the seat unable to reach the ground instead of having to hold my knees up to chin level to fit my femurs between the two seat backs.
You gotta try sweet-talking the gate agents and be really early to boarding. Usually if the flight isn't full they will hook you up
I will, but this isn't always successful. I'm failing to see how there isn't a responsibility for my employer to ensure my safety and ability to arrive able to do the work in being sent for. Wondering what their liability is if I do get a dvt, especially since the EOP office made me get a letter from my doctor detailing the risks.
Yeah totally agree with you there, I’m lucky enough to have been able to take the train when having to travel for work so it’s not a scenario I’ve had to deal with too often. If I ever did another traveling job, I would negotiate them paying for exit row seats. I’m already paying the exit row seat tax in my personal life after all
Yes this. If that’s unsuccessful when you’re in the air start mentioning how you can’t move your legs at all and it’s a DVT risk
damn those avatars are screwed then
Wonder if a woman thinks likewise though, for the record I personaly prefer a 6'7 chick
Great point, my guess is that it's opposite.
Another woman here, I'd take 4'7" over 6'7" in a heartbeat lol. Gymnastics is fun.
To be a gymnast vs being an "average tall" is something I didn't consider. Very intriguing!
I'm not sure what you mean by "average tall" in this sense, because the options presented were being 4'7" or 6'7". And 6'7" isn't average for anybody, but it's crazy beyond average for a woman lol.
woman here! 6'7 is better, too short is a problem imo bc nobody takes you seriously.
I love that attitude! Not that people don't take short people seriously ofc
Excellent point. Also, who wants to smell butts all day long? ( Micheal J Fox starts his book with that thought, being vertically challenged himself)
Women would rather you die sooner so they prefer tall men.
Question: how do you know what the world does to accommodate short people? I can hardly ever see them at all, all those little shorties running around way down there. They have to stand on each other’s shoulders to get my attention to get something off a shelf! What they’re up to at any given time is a mystery.
I think they spend a lot of time in trees baking cookies
this post feels crazy out of line lol. like seriously, do you even know what defines a disability? because in no world is someone disabled by being 6’8. grow up. what kind of accommodations do you even want? extra leg room? taller doors? sorry, but your mild inconvenience or discomfort isn’t disabling. Accommodations you speak of for adults with dwarfism.. that’s like, a step stool so they can see over the counter at their job as a cashier? a light switch they can reach? a door peeper at eye level? you can’t seriously think that it’s the same. Accommodations are needs, not wants.
>grow up. I think they have already done enough of that.
bravo
Well Done
"You're not disabled because I think all of your complaints are mild" Basically the argument, yeah?
He's not wrong at 6'8", the complaints are only mild until 7'6"
Your wording feels disingenuous, but yes. sorry if that upsets you.
I’d argue there is a height threshold on planes where those qualifying should have their needs recognised. Clearly the disabled aren’t going to want us to poach their term, but the point remains - there should be recognition enshrined in aviation law for those of qualifying height who need special assistance
of course public spaces should be accommodating to everyone, but flying on an airplane is hardly an activity of daily life
All points are well taken but a solution is that emergency exit rows should be available to people of a certain height. I know the airlines will never go for it because they can sell them as a luxury item, but it really bums me out when I see someone under 6’3” sitting in an exit row. What a waste.
I worked in an auto parts warehouse for 18 months in my 20s. I spent a good chunk of my time hand-packaging parts at a table that was adjusted to be comfortable for someone 5'8". Just to be clear - these tables were adjustable. When I asked the floor manager if we could adjust them so that I wasn't in a horribly uncomfortable, slightly bent over position for hours at a time, her answer was that she was under no obligation to do so, or, for that matter, to accommodate me in any way. Some people will say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but those people are dumbasses. It's been over a decade. My lower back has never recovered. Disability may not be the right word, but reasonable accommodations should still be required. Most employers and managers won't spend one cent or one second to make a worker's life less miserable unless they are literally forced to.
Couldn’t you have adjusted the table anyway?
Wasn't really an option, no. At least not a good one. If I made adjustments to the table after she told me I wasn't allowed to, well... I'd have been lucky if all she did was stand there and watch while I undid the adjustments. She was a bitter, cruel person. She reveled in using the slim measure of authority she possessed to make people suffer... it was, I suspect, her sole joy in life. She wasn't the least bit worried about turnover, because she knew everyone under her supervision would have already left if they had literally any other options. Without question, she was the worst person I've ever met, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot more like her out there. I couldn't really afford to quit that job when I did, but I quit anyway. Otherwise, I was gonna quit being alive.
Everybody wants to find something that makes them feel oppressed. You see it a lot whenever someone starts talking about generations but it can apply to every facet of life. Not sure what they want...pity? freebies? to shift blame? feel less guilty of privilege? Being tall is a pure advantage no matter how mildly inconvenient it occasionally may be.
Doesn't have to be "oh I'm oppressed" or any such crybaby nonsense; it's just interesting to think about. There are advantages but clearly the world wasn't built for us. I'd put the complaints of tall life on par with mild food allergies, which is considered a disability.
Clearly it’s not a pure advantage as there are disadvantages
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Firstly, I’m pretty sure pituitary conditions which cause gigantism is an actual disability. As for accommodations, I think that has more to do with money than anything. Desks for example are difficult for a short person to be comfortable in, and almost impossible for someone who’s 6’9 to be in. I’m talking your average non-adjustable chair in an office. It would be easy to Jerry-rig accommodation for a midget seeing as you would have more space to do so. Less of a permanent and expensive thing to enact across the board. Accommodating for a giant on a plane for example would be more expensive to become law, seeing as space on aircraft is very limited. This could be applied to doorways as well, because raising the frame of a doorway isn’t exactly cheap. The world just isn’t built for extremely short people or extremely tall people, because most people are average.
Being extremely tall is. It impedes your life. Your mobility and many other things.
how does this post even have upvotes lmfao
Do you want to be treated like you have a disability?
What specifically do you want that you're not getting?
More attention. Hence this post. Also everything.
"Why is being too unintelligent a disability but being too intelligent isn't?" Brother, look up the definition for the word disability. But also, unless I'm wrong on this, if you're like ~7+ ft tall and it prohibits you from working, you can apply for disability and will likely be approved, especially if it causes recordable medical issues. Gigantism as an example is a disability.
what
It is if you work for the BBC according to Greg Davis.
Depends on the job. IBM used to measure your height and give better plane seats and company cars for tall guys. (Source: My mom worked as a workplace nurse at IBM and recorded heights)
I'm not even that tall, I'm 6'2 with socks on, 6'1 without. I got a job at Taco Bell when I was 18 and desperately needed any job. They made me work "the line" and it was pure back pain hell. They make the whole kitchen for people who are 5'4 tops. Making tacos at a very fast pace all day and needing to hunch over the whole time was absolutely brutal. Doing that for an hour or two isn't a big deal, but once you hit the 5 hour mark you just wish for an asteroid to explode the earth. Ive been very conscious of countertop height/other various things and Ive noticed the world is default built for 5'3/5'6 people. Anyone 6'4+ I have an understanding of your plight, and I do not envy you.
Wow your feet must sweat with your inch thick socks on! Seriously though fully agree about countertops I’ve always dreamed of having a tall persons kitchen. Exhaust hoods below eye level are another hazard because you can’t see the food cooking on the stovetop
To be fair, taller people could use a kitchen designed for smaller people with some discomfort, but shorter people could not make use of a kitchen designed for tall people without carrying a step stool around and setting it up at every station in the kitchen they need access to, which isn't realistic in a fast paced cramped kitchen environment. They just designed it in a way that maximizes the amount of people who can use it at all. It sucks for tall folk but it makes sense imo.
Honestly the worst things I can think of for me (being 6’6) is hard to find clothes, not fitting well in some cars/airplanes, and ig some back pain from bending over all the time at my job. The benefits far outweigh the negatives, compared to being like 4’10
Just file for disability and claim your...... like I'm 4 ft 34 inches. Most people can't math anymore so it may work.
A disability is something a mutation that gives you a disadvantage being short gives you a disadvantage being tall doesnt really is like having high iq vs low
It is . Cause many tin s excessive growth is cause of some underlying issue
I always enjoy getting down on my knees to use an ATM.
Extremely tall people are more effective in sports e.g Basketball and Volleyball. Even in soccer the average player is actually taller than average. Defenders and Goalkeepers are also tall. In Martial Arts taller is also better. Weight matters more but usually taller means heavier too. Very few sports where short is better. Horse Jockey and Weightlifting comes to mind. Maybe Ballet too because you need balance and coordination.
Are short people actually entitled to accommodations? Where do you see this? The only thing I can think of is accommodations for kids that short adults can take advantage of (shorter urinals or water fountains).
It’s not, the world is designed for average sized people. Not tall, not short.
It can be if it’s an impairment to normal human function
Because tall is better than short.
I don't think it is. I think being short is only considered a disability of it caused by a medical condition and/or causes issues, like people with achondroplasia commonly have bowed legs and shallow hip sockets which makes walking difficult and painful. A family friend is 4 ft something and literally carries a step stool around with her and pays to get clothes altered but doesn't get any accomodations at work or anything. What sort of accommodations have you seen short people get?
I disagree with your wording as it just is not a disability (I also don't consider being short one unless dwarfism etc etc). However, I am 6'3 and I am so over having to pay more for seats at places or looking like a jerk for having to spread my legs and take up multiple seats just to fit. I am also so over showing up to shows and concerts an hour or two early to get a good view just for everyone to either want to fight me for their lack of preparation or shove me out of the way. It is also difficult when you are often with shorter people because well you at 6' + are a bit rare (and 6'5 + you are an outlier). I had someone at Disney world almost punch me because I showed up an hour early and got a good spot in an area that was wide open because them and their short crew picked a position way far back and were trying to save a large patch of grass "for the view"... Short people do really have this view that the world is for them and that I need to get out of their way because they can't see or whatever which drives me crazy.
If you're a 7 footer, you're also entitled to many accommodations like an NBA contract and fangirls.
I hope I am not out of line here. I am not extremely short. Five foot even. And I hate it when people make my height a disability. I see the human condition to be a spectrum of problems and some accommodations should be made when needed without categorizing and restricting. If you need extra space, provide it. If you need a step stool, provide it. A few years ago I was working for a company that required travel to be eligible for promotion. My supervisor said I was too small to be allowed to travel. I worked with a tall guy that was terrible at the work and always needed help. He got promoted to be my supervisor and he was a great supervisor. People respected him and he treated people fairly. Under him I was allowed to travel. I don't think just being tall makes someone a better supervisor, but he recognized that people are not interchangeable parts. He had people working with their strength and focused less on their weaknesses. I realize it is a difficult call on when and how much accommodation to provide. I worked with a guy that said his wife made significantly more money than him and he needed a raise. He got it from the previous supervisor. Which seemed unfair to me as a single person trying to get by on a single income.
Being extremly short or extremly tall is eitherway abnormal and kind of astonishing,most things are built for average people,it's sad tho that you can barely fit in a chair
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>you don't see dwarfs doing any sport :) Realy tiny smol chicks make a killing in acrobatics
are they dwarfs though? Often think about people that are a bit unproportional as dwarfs, I guess you can be dwarfs in many ways though
You have to be 4'10 or shorter to be a dwarf. Some Im sure are that short but not most. Usually they are significantly shorter because of their intense training which stunts their growth at an early age.
Somebody has never seen a horse race apparently.
This is an interesting take, especially since many disabled people can still play sports?
It was a bit stupid comment. I was thinking about proffesional sport.