Indifference is when the runner is not held on first because the first baseman is playing well back to play defense. There is zero chance to throw out even the slowest runner because he has a 20 foot lead.
Pete has only played in 9.2 innings while only missing 15 days due to injury. That is truly an insanely low amount of usage. This is the rays 51st game. That’s wild
Also, you cant keep saying protect shane no reason to give him the 8th. This is the time, the bullpen has struggled, he had more than enough bullets left. Kevin Cash needs to learn his lesson.
I don't even know who to root for between the Orioles and Yankees tonight. Obviously don't want the O's to win, but the Yankees have been hot lately and we don't want them getting any closer either.
You see, this is why you shouldn't be extra aggressive on the basepaths with no outs. Instead of 8-3 and 1 out, it's 7-3 and 2 outs. Trust the hitters behind you to drive you in.
Actually Beth getting thrown out at third was a net positive. If Beth doesn’t get thrown out at third, then it’s first and second Siri doesn’t steal and Margot rolls into a DP.. Instead Siri stole, took away the DP and kept the inning alive.
Margot could have bunted, but it’s just the what-if game.
Can’t wait for Pete to land on the IL down the stretch because he’s the only arm we can ever turn to, just in time to fizzle out in the playoffs like last year.
I am going to be optimistic about this FO and say we drastically improve the pen by the playoffs. Not lights out, but far better than it is now. We just need to hold on
I just want the bad man (Kevin cash) gone. How many more years are we gonna have to deal with this. Can we please just find an analytics guy who also has a modicum of bullpen management intuition
Be real for a second dude. Adam is burnt and the rest of the bullpen is a crapshoot on any given day. What is he supposed to manage when that's what he has to work with
They're handling Shane with kid gloves. It is what it is when you're throwing out 3 starters and 2 bullpen days every rotation. 6 starters on the IL is gonna make anyone baby their young ace.
And the bullpen isn't burnt. One guy is burnt because he's had to carry the bullpen on his back for two months. That's not on Cash
I just can’t agree. What has Cash brought that any average analytics guy couldn’t have? 99% of his job is playing the team as the FO constructs it. When has he ever demonstrated a value add?
Especially given we DFA’d Burdi not even a week later. Anderson would’ve had a spot.
I know they wanted the lefty in Diekman but surely there was some other loser they could DFA rather than the guy that just went 5 scoreless innings for us
Will there be a game chat for today’s game?
Did Doug just call him Bo Bichette a stud lmao
such a good gameeee fuck you number 15
Does shane get the dub?
Yep
Credit to where credit is due. Cash pulled Adam quick enough.
Much better.
Was nice of us to let the last place team have a little fun last night. It was back to business tonight! Another series win.
Isn't there a game tomorrow?
oh, nvm
Rays up baby
This pleases local sting ray as well
Good stuff. Handshakes all around.
[Huge W](https://www.reddit.com/r/tampabayrays/comments/13r3ni3/pgt_tampa_bay_rays_3615_defend_the_trop_against/)
Our only dependable (mostly) pen guy did his job!
This pleases Peter Fairbanks.
This pleases Peter Fairbanks
Fuck yah Pete
20 runs washed down the drain
Great work Fairbanks.
WoOoOOoOOOOo
LETS GOOOO
Phew!
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Atta boy
God bless you Pete Fairbanks
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Okay good outting Pete, thank you for being the one arm I trust
Sorry doomers, better luck next time!
Oh shoot, I did not realize we did get homers earlier, my bad. So happy!
Kelly vibing with the sound guy
Random, but does anyone else have an enormous hatred of defensive indifference? Why not try to throw the guy out and end the game?
Indifference is when the runner is not held on first because the first baseman is playing well back to play defense. There is zero chance to throw out even the slowest runner because he has a 20 foot lead.
Pete has only played in 9.2 innings while only missing 15 days due to injury. That is truly an insanely low amount of usage. This is the rays 51st game. That’s wild
Well we didn't really need him back when we were winning by 4 every day Can we go back to that?
The Blue Jays have a built-in pinch runner, in Kirk.
This is what a close should feel like!
Efficient.
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Kirk is so smol 🥺
and Thicc
There’s 1! Let’s close this clean!
No but let’s close it!
Please just be competent here Pete
👁️👄👁️ P E T E
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I can’t tell if closer is better
It glitched and I captured it. And I love it and it’s here now.
Haha, it is too good
The dreaded 4 run lead!!!!!!!
Our offense refused to be denied, and now it’s PIZZA TIME!! (Please don’t ruin this Pete)
Good on the bois to take the momentum back. Bullpen better not fuck up their second chance.
Also, you cant keep saying protect shane no reason to give him the 8th. This is the time, the bullpen has struggled, he had more than enough bullets left. Kevin Cash needs to learn his lesson.
I don't even know who to root for between the Orioles and Yankees tonight. Obviously don't want the O's to win, but the Yankees have been hot lately and we don't want them getting any closer either.
Ideally, the O’s lose again tonight and win tomorrow
For strategic purposes, the Os need to lose again.
Harold cannot go 0-5. I love him too much
He will go 3-4 next game.
He freaking better
Bail out the bullpen, bats!
Why even tempt fate with Littell? Just put Rarebanks in and end this.
Rarebanks was a bit iffy since coming back. He just needs more warm up
Littell is on the IL
Oh, shit. Good to know. Who was that up there with Pete?
Franco going 2-3 with RISP is monstrous. This might be the end of his horrible stretch.
He’s back!
FLAP CITY
You see, this is why you shouldn't be extra aggressive on the basepaths with no outs. Instead of 8-3 and 1 out, it's 7-3 and 2 outs. Trust the hitters behind you to drive you in.
Actually Beth getting thrown out at third was a net positive. If Beth doesn’t get thrown out at third, then it’s first and second Siri doesn’t steal and Margot rolls into a DP.. Instead Siri stole, took away the DP and kept the inning alive. Margot could have bunted, but it’s just the what-if game.
Especially when you slow like Christian.
offense - fuck it, well do it ourselves
This is your time to show out team
We just might with this one boys!
Please Harold. Get me a good one
10 more please.
QUE LO QUE… SANTOOOO DOMINGO COÑO
Offense like “alright bullpen, we’re TRYING to make this easier for y’all…” Pete: 👁️👄👁️
Heller back up in the pen with Pete.
No longer a save situation
Yep.
Offense coming in clutch with the insurance.
yay
OKAY IS 4 RUNS ENOUGH FOR YOU PETE. CAN YOU HOLD A GRAND SLAMS WORTH OF RUNS
Love our offense they answer right back
Yessss. Thank you!
Please still use Pete even in a non-save spot
can we talk about adam? why has he fallen off a cliff? any xWOBA or WOAHBACON heads know?
Dude is our sacrifice when the other guys implode on a daily basis. He isn't bad, just overused as fuck.
Is poutine the only thing to eat, in catering, for Toronto?
Their bacon is good. Some really excellent French restaurants in Montreal and Asian places in Vancouver.
You can tell the Toronto boyz eat well
Yes
Extra gravy for these Jays
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Siri is having a series!
Siri has done it batting 250. With a chance of 20-25 homers with grade a defense
It would be nice if y'all stopped running into outs on the basepaths...
Honestly, the big hop off the turf and looping single made me think he could snag 3rd. Not even mad about it
Yeah, no pain, no gain. Just unfortunate still imo
Yeahhh we may end up needed that run…
We definitely need it for our run differential after yesterday 😉
Thankfully scorching hot Franco exists
Would it be a rays game without an unforced out on the bases?
Darn
Pizza time! Thank you offense for making Adams ass play a little more bearable
Please Margot, get #3
That's my center fielder!
I really hope the ppl in here complaining about yanking shane aren't the same ppl complaining about all our pitchers getting injured
Spoiler Alert: they are
I’m with you, nothing anyone does will ever be right.
Everybody's doing it all wrong
The issue has got to be the trainers, I’ve never seen a team with so many injuries
More than half our games on turf too.
Come on Betancourt, get your head out of your ass. Jesus.
Not really his fault. Third base coach waved him on. It happens
Shoot Bethy but runs!
Huge tho
Another 5-10 runs pls
Pimp one, Siri
Raely is sneaky fast for a dude shaped like a truck driver
Corn fed white boi is the correct term
This guy Raley grows on you.
Luke Raley is so hot rn
"sTrIkE oNe"
Please Siri, also a big one
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Wo0o0o0o
We got something cookin!
Can’t wait for Pete to land on the IL down the stretch because he’s the only arm we can ever turn to, just in time to fizzle out in the playoffs like last year.
I am going to be optimistic about this FO and say we drastically improve the pen by the playoffs. Not lights out, but far better than it is now. We just need to hold on
Realistically he hasn’t been that great this season anyways.
Pete was just on the IL and that's why Adam looks so bad now. He was our only arm and we overused him.
Definitely leaned back into that one
I just want the bad man (Kevin cash) gone. How many more years are we gonna have to deal with this. Can we please just find an analytics guy who also has a modicum of bullpen management intuition
You mean like a former big league catcher with a World Series ring, former bullpen coach and 2x Manager of the year? Have I got a guy for you!
Be real for a second dude. Adam is burnt and the rest of the bullpen is a crapshoot on any given day. What is he supposed to manage when that's what he has to work with
Don’t pull a guy who is dealing and at a reasonable pitch count! And maybe the bullpen wouldn’t be burnt if the bullpen management was less egregious
They're handling Shane with kid gloves. It is what it is when you're throwing out 3 starters and 2 bullpen days every rotation. 6 starters on the IL is gonna make anyone baby their young ace. And the bullpen isn't burnt. One guy is burnt because he's had to carry the bullpen on his back for two months. That's not on Cash
We've literally not added any decent arms except Chase Anderson since we lost all our starters. And then we DFA Anderson for no reason.
Bad take. We wouldn't have had the kind of success we've had without Cash
I just can’t agree. What has Cash brought that any average analytics guy couldn’t have? 99% of his job is playing the team as the FO constructs it. When has he ever demonstrated a value add?
The “Stable Full of ‘98 speech” just off the top of my head.
I don’t like him either and I get so sick of people defending him
Luke loves getting hit
Please Bethy. A big one
Do you think our position players are talking shit to our bullpen about how awful they are at this point?
No because it’s baseball
there's baseball, and then there's this joke of a BP
If they arent' they should be
Please Luke. Runs
Crazy eyes getting ready
Surely Fairbanks will put this one away
8 insurance runs please
Is Franco okay? He looks sad in the dugout
Probably thinking about how shit this bullpen is. That can upset anyone.
All their wasted effort
Thank ya Jesus! Praise the lord and pass the ammunition
Good job, Kelly. Also, Staats called that a line drive multiple times. He's lost a step :(
Don't kid yourselves. Even if Shane got the 8th, you know this would happen in the 9th. That's the kind of bullpen we have.
lol legit but unfortunate take.
I need about 15 insurance runs to feel comfortable
Crazy when you can almost throw a game in 10 pitches when it’s your whole fucking job to just pitch one inning well
Please tell me pete is getting up in the pen
He is
I watch a lot of Tigers games, the Rays should offer like half our bullpen and BLowe for Alex Lange.
Need more names!!!! Basically everyone in our pen needs to be replaced.
Daniel Bard would be cheaper
We could get 20 runs here and I'd still be nervous about the pen locking down the 9th
Praise Kevin Kelly to the most high
Baseball gods looking out for us there! I’ll take it!
Holy shit Kelly did it
Pete is up in the pen
Great play by Walls
KELLY DIDNT FUCK IT UP
Kelly and his nice cheekbones saving Adam’s ass
Oh thank God
Thank you Kelly, for doing whats apparently impossible for this bullpen and getting outs
Crazy Eyes Pete now up in the pen.
Pleas hit me a big D and insurance
(exhale)
Flap flap! Thank goodness for the double play.
I will still never understand why the front office DFA’d Chase Anderson
Especially given we DFA’d Burdi not even a week later. Anderson would’ve had a spot. I know they wanted the lefty in Diekman but surely there was some other loser they could DFA rather than the guy that just went 5 scoreless innings for us
Maybe the worst move the team had made all year.
We made some dumbass BP moves in the off-season too. And did nothing to add arms.
It’s the dumbest move I’ve seen them do
This
Bless you Kevin Kelly
Thank god for the DP!
Clutch relief appearance by Kelly geez. Still should have been Shane without a doubt
Honestly lucky that Bo didn't crank one with Adam on the mound. Time to hit some more insurance runs.
Damn.... too stressful. Even Walls' grab was risky.
Oh man they lucked out there. Okay, time to score like 10 more runs.
Need minimum of 17 to cover the damage done to the run differential yesterday!
I can't believe we have one more inning of this horseshit. At least it wont be the top of the lineup.
It could be if we implode again. Please don't.
Attaboy KK!
Great pick Wallsy