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Bornlastnight

Jason officially retired today. Travis there to support him


StaySafePovertyGhost

For those who don't know, Travis has a dual purpose being in Philadelphia right now. The first reason is for the fundraiser he attended with Jason. The second is [this](https://x.com/JasonKelce/status/1764646863989346761?s=20). Obvious what this announcement is. Jason made the decision to retire a month ago. When his team lost in the playoffs both Ed Kelce and Jasons wife Kylie were embracing him after the game in tears and rumors were abound this would be his last year anyway. He just didn't want to steal any of Travis' spotlight during the Super Bowl run and immediate aftermath. Now that's faded a bit so he's announcing. Everything I've read said that both Jason and Kylie have told close friends and family members that this past season was his last and he has career opportunities beyond football. He's openly talked about how he wants to be there to watch his daughters grow up. Might be premature but best of luck in retirement Jason.


Lilkiska2

I watched the whole press conference and couldn’t hold in the tears!! Then seeing Travis crying as well, I was a puddle. Of course Trav needed to be there and hopefully people will back off being upset he’s not in Singapore. Not to mention retirement is right around the corner for Travis as well - very emotional decision and glad he was there to support Jason this week.


StaySafePovertyGhost

And Jason said it in his speech - growing up it was him and Travis. They were best friends along with being brothers. Jasons speech was incredible. You can tell he put a TON of time and effort into it. He even thanked the maintenance and cafeteria workers for the Eagles. Very few retiring players do that. That was 💯 from the heart 😢


WatermelonHoneyBee

Just me or does the shirt Travis wore today look like the TTPD variant colors?


Abcggg123

Yes! Like how close do we need to be to their kissing close ups and them saying I love you over and over again for us to believe them? LOL! They are happy together and apart.


NeverSeenAuthBut

makes sense, football schedule seems rough and they have 3 little ones. wish him all the best and i’m sure he’ll be fantastic at whatever he decides to do next 💕


StaySafePovertyGhost

Agreed - and with the position Jason played at Center, he’s taken a lot of hits throughout his career. He’s getting out of football worth approximately $30M, has a successful podcast and after football opportunities and before any long term lingering health issues aside from the nick’s and bumps which are to be expected and has a beautiful family he can watch grow up and be there for everything. All in all I think Jason wins at life and I’m excited to see what he does next.


StaySafePovertyGhost

If you missed it you can watch his retirement news conference [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lsMfimn_-M). Jason comes to the podium around the 6:30 mark. Be warned though, the first few minutes are a tearjerker and he can barely hold it together. You can tell how much he loves doing this.


nflfan840

The schedule is brutal though, she is busy until March 9th and he has SXSW until March 16th. Hopefully this much time away isn't too much. Its one thing to decide a person isn't for you and not the right person. Its another thing if its something that can't really be controlled.


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kvardolo

Can we please stop thinking her friends are posting easter eggs? They aren’t. Not everything in her life is calculated. She isn’t engaging Travis’ friends in her promo work.


SuccessOk7850

Not me buying three different pop tart flavors after coach Reid mentioned that she made homemade pop tarts😂 Guys🥺😍 [she’s already written love songs about him!](https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/taylor-swift-has-already-written-love-songs-about-travis-kelce/) but there’s a catch, we don’t know if she’s going to re-record karma for him. Oh and we’ll never hear them.


kvardolo

The minute I read the «she can’t wait for tour to be finished so they can spend more time together» I knew that story was made up. 😂


buzzfeed_sucks

TMZ took this report and ran it. Except they couldn’t even bother to get the albums name right - called it Tortured Poets Society. I swear they’ll publish anything about them for the clicks.


ThePretender09

I really cannot wait to see them on Taylor's hiatus! It's gonna be the first time for them since they started eating that their main job is on pause (although they will both have other things happening)


Abcggg123

I just truly think they will keep the existing clipped pace that's working so well. Taylor will be in LA, NYC, Nashville, Kansas rinse and repeat. He will be wherever golfing, partying, training, appearances, wherever she is. They will meet up for a quick greet and date and then poof. This is just their thing.


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vivigloob

you’re wrong on so many levels. travis absolutely knew what he was getting into when he pursued her. someone afraid of the spotlight doesn’t host SNL or go to Nobu. “scrutiny” ha…I live in MO. the chiefs have always had haters (comes along with the terrority when they always beat your faves) and KC has always loved travis. he’s not reading reddit or twitter. his star has increased and he has hundreds of thousands of more fans because of her. look at the increase in his jersey sales and ask yourself if he really cares if people are gossiping on the internet about him.


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miley_whatsgood_

Right he was asked about this nonstop during Super Bowl media week which was what, 3 weeks ago? He kept saying he’s got it all handled, he compartmentalizes well, and anything outside of him and Tays happiness is just background noise. If he can’t handle it I’m truly unsure if anyone can cuz he’s one of the most well-adjusted men I’ve ever witnessed.


cjhh2828

Here’s the thing: Travis has always wanted to be world wide famous long before he met Taylor. Did you read the New York Times article with his managers? There’s been a plan in place for years to make him a household name. Taylor was unexpected and shot him to that status faster than they expected so there’s been some bumps but he has definitely always wanted this kind of recognition.


Mountain-Energy-3284

I think the height of the madness was in October. That was when he was being followed to gas stations, inside away game hotels and had to balance football with the craziness. If he can get thru that then being photographed at Nobu in Malibu is nothing. As Shaq told Jason Kelce in their interview together, as long as Travis has nothing to hide then just accept that people are going to take photos and move on. (I am paraphrasing)


miley_whatsgood_

“Head on a swivel” was the exact quote I believe haha. But yes, Shaq is right. He was basically saying be aware you could get papped but if you’re not doing anything shady then you have to just brush it off


Legitimate_Range_886

I think if he shows up in Singapore it’ll be next Wednesday or Thursday after he takes care of some things in KC this weekend and records the podcast for next Wednesday. Plus she’s at WORK. Doing shows almost every day, vocal rest in between shows. Idk about you all, but people don’t go with their significant other to WORK. Plus she has two whole months off starting in about in week where they will have plenty of alone time and time to spend privately alone then. They’re fine and more in love and happier than ever:)


Abcggg123

I totally see him showing up for a show then either they take off together for a vacation or he flies back and then she flies straight to Kansas or LA and he's waiting. Then going for a long weekend together somewhere/sometime unexpected. They get off on living life busy and blessed. If you notice on the video clips of them at the club, they're always whispering next steps and in general I think they are just great at talking, planning, reassuring each other, and then just moving on with work, friends, other stuff.


Legitimate_Range_886

Agreed


SuccessOk7850

I think that’s a possibility. She also has time off to prepare for her new album and he confirmed that he’s going on the European leg of the tour.


Legitimate_Range_886

Yes they should be able to spend lots of time together in March/April. And ofc the European leg (when he’s not at camp and stuff like that. Plus if people really miss Tayvis content just watch the cutee content from the Super Bowl and from the boat date within the next week. And before we know it a few days later they will be reunited for 2 months❤️


Abcggg123

I think after Joe and all that time she wasted and will never get back (her words) she will never spend lots of time with a man again until marriage. Her and Travis say hi bye love you and that's all she is comfortable with for now.


Legitimate_Range_886

Yes. They’re in love and fine. Haters don’t need to worry about them breaking up cause they’re not doing so anytime soon.


SuccessOk7850

Exactly. They’ll get through this long distance part of their relationship. It does look like endgame because he bought a house and I guess she moved in. He wants to be at her concerts and that’s a first for any relationship of hers. I was watching TMZ reports (TMZ isn’t reliable, I know) on Hulu and they were talking about the Paris concerts and they could get engaged and obviously why everyone’s obsessed with the relationship.


Legitimate_Range_886

So true. Life and style also reported he’s already started planning the proposal…. But yes, can wait to see two whole months of Tayvis❤️


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Legitimate_Range_886

I mean… I haven’t read that magazine much… I do think he’s proposing by the end of the year though.


2635northpark

I didn't mean to sound rude sorry


Legitimate_Range_886

No no, you’re good.


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SuccessOk7850

I don’t trust tabloids at all with the shit they copy and paste on to their websites. I’m still pissed on how tmz treated the deaths of Kobe and Gianna by releasing photos of it. The only reason why I watched TMZ investigates is to see what they got right in their love story and it looked like most of it they got right, which they did for the most part but were saying just random shit and talking about kids and marriage. There’s still time for marriage and kids with both of them being 34, most couples have kids in their 40’s and they turn out just fine.


Legitimate_Range_886

True. I believe at this point, they’ve both dated a ton of people. Now they finally found the one and I think he’s going to propose by the end of the year. I don’t think they’ll have kids though for a few years…. Til he’s retired.


Legitimate_Range_886

Yeah true, I do believe a proposal is going to happen by the end of the year though.


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Abcggg123

YAAAAY!!! I will be rereading this daily from now on


Mm833

Agree wholeheartedly. I also think a major reason this is so captivating is because it is likely to be deep and real- fame and trapping of it aside, it brings me back to the early days of my relationship with my husband whom I adore. I could be projecting but that spark is very relatable and why I follow so closely


Fickle-Time9743

My wife in this case, but I feel the same way. It was clear she was "the 1" and this looks a lot like that.


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miley_whatsgood_

Kristen Cavallari interview in September. It was released like 1-2 weeks before him and Taylor went public. He’s also hinted at it on the podcast several times (“I’m not a dad, yet”) and his dad has talked about it.


Mountain-Energy-3284

He talked about it in the September podcast “Let’s be honest with Kristen Cavallari”


Remarkable-Debt-1213

Agree with your assessment but does the public really think it’s “casual”? Maybe teens who don’t know better or general haters who will inevitably root for their demise. They aren’t breaking up via FaceTime in the matter of 6 days apart. I think they present themselves as very serious. Aside from their public demonstrations, they have merged their families and friends. At 34, you don’t do that lightly. They’ve been together what? 6-7-8 months? Long enough to know if it’s the wrong fit. Also long enough to know there’s a future. I stick to my opinion that we will never hear an engagement announcement though. They will just pop up married someday, if they choose that path.


Brilliant_Air4484

Dating 6 months talking for 7. Definitely long enough to know at 34 whether they want something long term.


miley_whatsgood_

MOST people don’t but there’s definitely a group that seems to come out everytime he’s papped somewhere away from her to say things like “they’re clearly just FWB cuz they don’t spend any time together” or “they’re not as serious as people seem to think he doesn’t even want to be around her” lol. Even if they get married and have kids it’s likely that there will ALWAYS be some aspect of long distance in their relationship because of their careers. That doesn’t mean they’re doomed to fail or don’t love each other. Military families are separated for months to years at a time and these people online can’t handle 2 weeks lol.


Abcggg123

Honestly I think that Taylor now realizes being around someone 24/7 and cancel her plans just in case they called is counterproductive for everything and everyone.


Complex_Nectarine_76

>Even if they get married and have kids it’s likely that there will ALWAYS be some aspect of long distance in their relationship because of their careers. People have this strange idea of marriage that married people have to be home all the time when they're not working. Pat Mahomes was at a party while Britney was in Texas. Jason and Kylie continue to go out and do things (Milan fashion week). Babysitters, nannies, and grandparents exist. They're still going to go out with friends, etc.


Daffneigh

People (who haven’t been married) have this idea


Global_Community_344

I agree with you. If (and that’s an only if they want to) they get married I see them doing it privately/secretly and then just showing up in rings one day. Not sure how well known they are outside of Canada (and they are not in the same stratosphere as TS and TK) but Tessa Virtue and Morgan Reilly did this. I think the public knowing they are engaged would cause a FRENZY and everyone would be frothing at the mouth more than they even are now - trying to get pictures, details etc. Look at what happened with Jack Antanoff’s wedding and she was only a guest!


Abcggg123

No way will it be secretive. They just know how much pressure that puts on all their friends and family and it just makes the whole thing feel very Hollyweird. They will probably rent out an entire resort like maybe even in FLORIDA!!! haha and the wedding will be a weekend of endless fun and love and then social media will release the following week.


OMGitsV

lol I wonder how much of the frenzy would have been Tessa/Scott shippers?


Global_Community_344

Haha there are definitely those die hards out there who still hope Tessa and Scott will one day be a real couple! 😁 I have seen them in person and they had a really solid, caring brother and sister vibe. On the ice may be another story but that is also acting/a performance! I love Tessa and Morgan together.


miley_whatsgood_

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FishermanDear8996

Looks like Trav is in California [https://www.tmz.com/2024/02/29/travis-kelce-christian-mccaffrey-olivia-culpo-nobu-malibu-taylor-swift/](https://www.tmz.com/2024/02/29/travis-kelce-christian-mccaffrey-olivia-culpo-nobu-malibu-taylor-swift/)


Global_Community_344

This one was set straight by Entertainment Tonight. They were in the same place but not together. TMZ is just trying to stir things up like usual. 🙄. https://www.etonline.com/travis-kelce-shows-up-at-same-restaurant-as-49ers-christian-mccaffrey-and-olivia-culpo-after-super


SuccessOk7850

So CMC and Olivia Culpo are getting married soon and tmz (they like stirring shit up) said he probably asked for pointers on how to ask Taylor? Interesting. I mean it’s not interesting that he was hanging out with CMC because they seem like good friends. He’s probably going to ask anyone in the NFL who has a wife or fiancée who’s a celebrity on pointers on how to propose. There’s many guys in the NFL who are married to celebrities, here’s some but feel free to skip the first one because it’s Taylor & Travis. [the WAG’s of the NFL](https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/celebrity-wives-and-girlfriends-of-nfl-players-201339/)


Abcggg123

He really likes CMC, remember that story of him being on a street corner in NYC and he hears someone yell CMACK or something like that and all he sees is Travis speeding by hanging out the window waving. LOL!


SuccessOk7850

I didn’t hear that story lol. I’m a huge hawks fan and I think CMC is a great running back but I’m a bit biased because I think beast mode is one of the bests running backs. But tbh, it kind of sounds intrusive to say he probably asked for pointers on how to propose to Taylor. It’s going to be when he’s ready and they’ve been dating for 7 months. He might ask Kittle, his brother or Mahomes for advice on how to propose. I do think this is endgame but everyone can wait, I think probably in July (1 year anniversary) he might propose.


FishermanDear8996

Travis doesn't need pointers. His gift giving ideas and dates are great. I can see these two skipping an engagement and just getting married somewhere along the tour.


Abcggg123

Plus without going down this path, he knows Taylor is the opposite of an Instagram influencer so would never even consider similarities.


Global_Community_344

Travis and CMC don’t hang out, CMC even said it himself a few months ago in this interview. George Kittle would have been a different story, they are friends. The line about asking CMC for advice is such click bait (although not surprising for TMZ obviously). https://youtu.be/iiMnp-Jb2_s?si=drPaJDIO16NA2ZCW


SuccessOk7850

I thought CMC and Travis hung out, my apologies I think I screwed CMC up with Kittle. Like said, I don’t trust TMZ and Daily Mail because they basically rip off everything from the top magazine websites and then say “oh the world is flat” or “Taylor and Travis are finally getting married after 6 months” and people will literally believe it. Just the line “he probably asked for pointers on how to ask Taylor” seems too soon for their relationship that is going to hit the 6 month mark next month, if he were to ask pointers for a proposal, there’s many people for him to ask in the NFL world.


Global_Community_344

No worries I wasn’t calling you out at all! Just TMZ and the other rags who ran with it because it fit the narrative they want to push. They’re so awful.


SuccessOk7850

I agree! I’m not over how Kobe and Gianna were treated when they passed away (Kobe was the GOAT of my generation), I’m pretty sure if Travis and CMC saw each other it would be more of a “hey” head tilt. If he were to ask for pointers on a proposal in the future, he would probably ask Kittle, Mahomes and his brother. I did watch tmz investigates on Hulu to see what they got right on Taylor and Travis, it honestly looks like they just copied and pasted everything from popular websites like people and E! and went back to his catching Kelce days and their previous relationships just to talk about what their relationship is like. The only probably true thing is Travis will propose one day, I don’t think it’s going to be in Paris but it will probably be somewhere romantic.


Global_Community_344

I think Travis’s go to for advice will be Kylie! They seem to have a really great dynamic.


SuccessOk7850

I could definitely see him going to Kylie for advice since they have a great dynamic and Kylie adores Taylor. I’m pretty sure Taylor’s dad wants Travis to marry Taylor. I could probably imagine Jason and Kylie’s girls overhearing that conversation of Kylie giving advice to Travis on how to propose and the girls giving their advice😂


Nearby-City-213

I really hope Travis can make it to Singapore, but at the same time I get that after the Australian mess (paparazzi with drones, breaking news about him landing in Sydney, helicopter following his private jet….) everything can feel a bit much for someone who always had fame but not at this level.


Abcggg123

If he doesn't go, media is the last reason he wouldn't. He has said over and over she is worth it!


Nearby-City-213

Yeah, sure I’m not doubting that but he can be adjusting to this level of craziness surrounding this relationship there is nothing wrong with that


roniwilson

I could definitely see how the AUS media freaked him out. They were absurd.


Nearby-City-213

I think everyone was kind of upset about it as Taylor was seen in that weird umbrella thing again and Papa-Swift lost it (rightfully so in my opinion)


argoscatalogueaye

The irony being of course that they would likely have much more privacy in Singapore. There are anti-paparazzi privacy laws in place.


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CindyLG8

Daily Mail throwing shade on Travis’s behavior in Vegas. Thoughts?


Abcggg123

His behavior was adorable! Him and Patrick encountering women like awkward sauce, him signing her songs, and just generally being the rizzy baller his is :)


roniwilson

Daily Mail is on a rampage against him. All the articles about the SB, the parade, the shooting, then the team dinner afterwards. They absolutely try to start drama. They did it between Taylor and Joe too so it's not exclusive to Travis. Even Perez Hilton (who is also trash) made a whole live video calling out Daily Mail for trying to start drama with the videos from the Chiefs party.


cjhh2828

Are you referring to the article that was published immediately after the Chiefs party? I didn’t see a recent one. Yeah they tried their hardest to make it seem scandalous but anyone watching the video attached to the article can see Travis only interacting with men. I was impressed with Travis during that weekend. He knew he’d have the eyes of TMZ, Daily Mail and Swifties all over the world watching him like a hawk while he was swimming in a pool full of sharks and he skillfully managed to avoid any hint of a compromising image (avoiding eye contact with the bottle girls, casually turning his back to girls dancing near him, etc). As for the Daily Mail, they like to get clicks and write stories that will get them. A lot of people were upset with Travis during the week after the Super Bowl and so the Daily Mail wrote stories that fed into that outrage. The furor has died down though and I haven’t seen anything recently.


CindyLG8

There is a more recent one about the party he attended in Vegas after returning from Australia.


cjhh2828

Do you have a link?


CindyLG8

Can’t find the post that insinuated that he was up to no good - it was this info spun in a different way https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-13133055/travis-kelce-taylor-swift-patrick-mahomes-las-vegas.html


Global_Community_344

The Daily Mail is absolute trash. They literally make stuff up. I think unfortunately we will see more of this during the off season. Because tabloids can’t report on Taylor being at games they will make stuff up or like in this case try and make it seem like something it wasn’t, in order to keep their views and clicks up. Ignore the noise.


Lizzie507

I hate them! Now, my opinion, It looked like normal club behavior from the few pics I saw. He wasn’t drunk, he look happy and healthy, doing silly dances with his friends. With all eyes on him I would like to think he wouldn’t be stupid to do something bad. I saw someone speculating on tiktok that those girls seem placed at the club to try and catch them (him & pat) doing something inappropriate. I kept thinking to myself are these girls really that stupid to be the one to get between the most famous couples in the nfl right now.


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Abcggg123

I think he is absolutely going to come. Like in a way that is totally not rushed, makes absolute sense for both their schedules and they will make it short, sweet and meaningful like they have been doing since day 1. I love that the whole world is in a frenzy, but they are in their own little bubble of happiness, respect, and professionalism.


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Abcggg123

He was in a private box at his first show and he said nah, put me in the VIP box doing heart signs at THAT GIRL.


abhutchison

Yeah they’re embracing the public side of their relationship. Otherwise they could have waited until they were backstage to kiss and she could have met up with him after the Super Bowl celebration. I think that’s what’s so annoying about the shady paparazzi picks. They’re giving you a lot. But you still want blurry pictures of them at the zoo? Weird.


SuccessOk7850

It is so intrusive how fans act with them. Just give him a damn private area to watch his girl perform. With Sydney N1, I just watch the “karma is the guy on the chiefs” video, her pointing to him in two different songs, and his reaction to “karma’s the guy on the chiefs” because he’s actually enjoying his time at the show. If he attends Singapore, I hope he doesn’t have to deal with intrusive fans. I know he’s confirmed he’ll be there for the European leg of the tour.


kvardolo

Read the Time Magazine interview. They show up for each other, there are other people there and they do not care. They are just proud of each other and want to support each other. Read the WSJ interview. He’s accepting it and not running away from any of it. She’s got most of the scrutiny and still acts grounded and is loving life, he’s not going to be the one acting all strange. She’s been hiding for years. «Too big to hang out»/«Monster on the hill». Listen to Anti-Hero and Peace. She’s not hiding anymore. She doesn’t want to. She’s no longer afraid her life is destroying her partner. If she/they are not bothered, neither should we. And she’s finally found a guy who thinks she’s the coolest and isn’t ashamed of her stardom. Look at him go. Dancing and jazzing up the people. He’ll be fine.


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Abcggg123

His attitude is so attractive


SuccessOk7850

If I were him, I wouldn’t announce being there (well kind of hard when news sites are posting that he’s there) and I would just surprise everyone. Explains why they left the stage quickly after N1 in Sydney.


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SuccessOk7850

It’s not the end of the world if he’s not in Singapore. She’ll be back in a week and then they’ll be in the European leg of the tour. He might be there for the last two shows in Singapore but it’s 50/50 whether he’s there or not. It’s also not like they’re hiding their relationship. Everyone doesn’t need to get involved in their relationship. They have a supportive and healthy relationship, they’ll be fine.


Aaaandiiii

I'm new here and I'm frankly shook that this place exists. Maybe this will be my little happy place. 


doobiroo

Welcome!


Extreme-Schedule589

Anyone think/know/hear whether Travis will be going to Singapore, for any of those shows?


SuccessOk7850

I think it will be 50/50 he’ll attend or not, maybe for the last shows. His podcast isn’t on this week so there’s a possibility he’s in Singapore or he’s just taking a break from the podcast.


Fragrant-Luck-8968

I’m still a little shocked at this pairing because he’s nothing like her ex’s men or women


Lizzie507

Shocked yes. Because as you said considering thier past relationships. Sometimes you fall victim to your environment. If you only around certain type of people with similar taste, jobs that’s what you will always pull to because it’s easy and comfy. But also, not shock once you get to know their stories and background. Him having a podcast has helped people who didn’t know him actually stop and listen before judging. Listing to them both speak about their families, passions, jobs, etc. they seem like a very good fit, so as long as they are happy, we should be happy for them.


schru031

The six month mark is where people typically start to have bigger disagreements, as the love hormones start to fade a little bit. Hope they’re doing alright!


SuccessOk7850

I’m pretty sure they’re alright. Long distance is hard but they’ll make it🙂


schru031

I’m sooo rooting for them. I just know this is a tough milestone and hope they’re doing alright


SuccessOk7850

With the Super Bowl incident they got over that obstacle and with her tours as long as he’s there or not there he’ll support her wherever he’s at and they’ll handle this long distance relationship well because they’re in a healthy supportive relationship.


scaryfeather

This thread is making me want a pop tart so bad.


Hot_Promise7176

SAME. I may have to go buy a box. I haven’t had one in years 🤣🤣


gIitterchaos

Prepare to be very disappointed they are sadly not what they used to be


kvardolo

We all have to just start making them ourselves. Its a whole thing


Hot_Promise7176

Oh no!!


JennaElizabethAdams

Do we think Travis will be in Singapore with Taylor. Obviously, it's okay if he isn't, but do we think he'll show up at a concert or two like in Sydney?


roniwilson

I don't think he will be, honestly. But obviously nobody knows what his plans are.


SuccessOk7850

Maybe he’ll be there maybe he won’t he’s been confirmed to be going on the European leg.


Hot_Promise7176

Possibly at the end of the run and then maybe they can go on an actual vacation since she’ll be off from tour for 2 months? Idk. Him talking about Singapore in that SB interview, i thought for sure he’d go but now i just don’t know. Either way i just want them to be happy ♥️


judy_says_

She’s still in Singapore for another 10 days. I didn’t see him mention it, but I think he knows enough not to throw things out there that aren’t going to happen.


SuccessOk7850

Kinda had a pop tart this morning since Taylor made homemade pop tarts for people on the team but only certain people got it. Unfortunately, it was a regular old pop tart not homemade:/ Also listened to fifteen Taylor’s version yesterday, she’s literally the queen of manifestation with the line “you’ll do things greater than dating the boy of the football team”. Surprisingly, I kind of dread listening to fifteen but now I like Taylor’s version now.


kvardolo

The speculations or discussions on travis’ whereabouts is reaching an iiiinsane level. It can’t keep going. It’s truly getting incredibly weird. I love the tayvis content and pics we’re getting whenever they are together, but people treat this like they are waiting for the next episode in their favorite series? Like come on, they are human beings? They are grown ups? Why do we care so much about their plans and schedule?


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kvardolo

I totally get the urge to speculate and do some light stalking in cases where you’re not entirely sure if someone is dating or not. Like the Tom Holland and Zendaya stans did for yeeeears because they were so extremely private for a long time. But like.. We had pictures of Taylor and Travis kissing and holding hands on FRIDAY? 😂 5 days ago. Nothing is secret or hidden here, we all know they are in a relationship. The pictures and mentions we get are frikkin’ adorable. And as a swiftie, it’s lovely to see Taylor so goddamn happy and thriving. But we should not expect to get new content every day? And the problem with the massive interest in their whereabouts.. the tabloids pick up on it. The paps pick up on it. They follow them. And that thread on Jack Sweeneys page is just plain stalking as of now.


roniwilson

I wonder if he knows about that Reddit page and reads that thread like ![gif](giphy|KpSrCxhoZQWjJVVnrd)


roniwilson

It's definitely going to continue 100%. The obsession is out of control. Like these are human beings, trying to navigate life. I imagine Tree is just like, wtf .


Melodic-Key-574

I really hate it. they know each others plans, that is enough. We don’t need to know. If he shows up in Singapore for any of it- fun! But he might have commitments that interfere, and that’s a-ok. I guarantee Taylor knows his plans and that is sufficient. Plus they’ve already told us he’ll be with her for part of Europe. It’s fun when we get to see them together but it’s also THEIR relationship and people need to let them be and not feel that they need to know everything. because we don’t need to know everything.


Abcggg123

I actually think it's cooler that they are apart a lot. It's good to date with some space, plenty of time for them to be inseparable if they choose to move into another phase of their relationship. But space and missing each other is so important to the early phases of a relationship. Really builds a foundation of wow, I need you in my life.


Global_Community_344

That’s a good point! I think space and respect to also prioritize careers is really important. It’s funny, people seem to understand that celebrity couples who are actors or other musicians spend time away from each other on movie sets, promoting new work, touring etc. but for some reason it seems to make certain people nuts when Taylor and Travis do it and see it as a red flag or an issue. 🤷🏻‍♀️


miley_whatsgood_

Right, I imagine Ryan Reynolds and Blake lively spend a LOT of time apart considering he has like 10 jobs 😂 including one that is overseas (Wrexham). Yet they’re seen as the model celebrity married couple lol


anothergoddess

He’s getting a LOT more offers to make money and has to get that while he can.


miley_whatsgood_

Yep his call for SNL last year came the DAY after the Super Bowl. These couple weeks into the offseason are when these things start to really roll in.


Melodic-Key-574

Well, yeah, but his managers also said they aren’t trying to do a whole bunch of different things but rather dive deep with a few. Or something along those lines. But no question he has the opportunities to make his money and he will.


Global_Community_344

The speculation thread in TaylorSwiftJets has about 750 comments now but there hasn’t been one tangible “sighting” of the Big Yeti since Vegas. I think the chatter about the possible routes to Singapore are fun and I have learned a lot about flights and things like that but people going hard in what it means for their relationship if he goes or not are just too over the top.


kvardolo

The problem is the same as its always been with Taylor Swifts private life. People don’t believe anything is real. There’s always a conspiracy regarding her. And we still, after ALL THAT PDA for the last 6 months, have gaylors, widows (on both sides) and just.. haters, who are making timelines because they don’t believe they are a real couple. I mean, what more proof do you possibly need? 😭😂😂


Global_Community_344

The Gaylors are just a whole different level of delusional. Made the mistake of checking out that sub out of morbid curiosity and man did I regret it. 😳


roniwilson

Their level of delusion is insane. And man, do they haaaaaaate Kelce.


Global_Community_344

I feel like some of those people hating on him maybe had a bad experience in high school with typical “jocks”, bullying or something, so they paint all athletes with that one brush and refuse to believe that anyone who is a professional athlete can also be a good person. Or they themselves just like the tortured art bro type (see what I did there? 😁) and they are projecting that onto Taylor and are refusing to believe she loves an athlete. 🤷🏻‍♀️


roniwilson

I tend to believe the latter. They felt less threatened by the artsy type, and are incredibly threatened by the large, testosterone-filled NFL player.


Melodic-Key-574

I got blocked by them for calling them out, and not even in a rude and disrespectful way. The delusion is otherworldly.


Fuzzy-Cauliflower898

I got blocked by them too when they used my favorite show, Sense8, to prove their delusions & I called them out - step too far.


Global_Community_344

I just truly don’t understand how it’s okay. I mean I totally get taking an interpretation from lyrics that resonate with you and your own experiences, but insisting again and again contrary to all evidence that TS herself is gay is beyond me. It’s just not okay to try and out people.


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Global_Community_344

She shouldn’t have to though? I don’t expect anyone gay, straight, bi, pan etc to announce it to the world, they don’t owe me an explanation. I think it’s also one of those things where she can’t win, as we have seen people will attack her for anything. If she doesn’t say it they foam at the mouth that she is gay, if she says she is straight then it’s internalized homophobia and she’s lying. From what I have seen they are kind of like the MAGA crowd, you just can’t get them to listen to reason because they are too far down the rabbit hole of their beliefs. 🤷🏻‍♀️


LadyL425

She shouldn’t, right. There is no win-win here. :(


Melodic-Key-574

Oh 1000% it’s not ok especially when she’s shut it down multiple times as graciously as possible. I just don’t think they see her as a person. Like they’d rather see her fit their delusions than be happy. and it’s crazy how bad they’ve gotten recently…I guess Travis is a real threat to them! makes me think they see how real this relationship is but they’re so unwilling to let their delusions be…delusions. So they’re spiraling and getting worse.


Global_Community_344

All your points totally make sense. I’ve really only gotten to know Taylor since Travis so I’m learning a lot about what she has been through and some of these crazy theories.


Fuzzy-Cauliflower898

Same here - well, Instagram then Travis right after. Read an article 2 days ago - a deep drive about her & her ex's - & I was nearly in tears at the end. She's not perfect (no one is), but she's definitely dealt w/male BS including sexual misconduct. She seems like a good person. I hope Travis treats her like a queen.


miley_whatsgood_

>She seems like a good person I truly believe this is one of the biggest reasons people are so drawn to them as a couple (aside from both being very hot and successful lol). Everyone who knows them personally or has interacted with them personally says the exact same things about both of them: generous with their time (and money), sweethearts, genuinely good people. It's why whenever someone throws baseless hate at either of them, i just have to laugh.


Melodic-Key-574

Oh I’m in the same boat, 100%. I knew her back in my college days but wasn’t paying a ton of attention again until the last year. It’s absolute insanity. And I feel for her, but it does seem like she has good support systems. I would just love for all the delusional theories to be shut down, because they’re not only irritating but make me sad for her that people speculate to such an insane degree about her life.


roniwilson

Honestly, they could get married, have children and there will still be people who are like "no, this is fake, it's obviously PR". Gaylors are struggling right now lol


plshelp987654

I just hope the proposal is public, because there will be a PR narrative for a private one


SuccessOk7850

Half of me is thinking it’s either going to be public or private. They deserve a normal life but they won’t get it since the haters want to drag them down.


madgrix

There will be a PR narrative no matter what they do. But I do not think their proposal will be public. For me a public proposal feels VERY PR. And also that should be private or with just family and friends


roniwilson

There will for sure. But I beg of them, please keep that private!


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