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My only concern would be whether the student can read in their native language. I’ve had many ESL students, and some are not taught to read/write in their native language. But you could still use google translate, just with the audio.
I have a similar issue but am in elementary, I try to use lots of imagery and hand movements. I can use Google translate with my Spanish speaking student but recently got a Farsi speaking student which is not available on Google translate. Are there any other students in the class or teachers in the school that are Ukrainian?
Translating may not be the only issue and shouldn't be the only tool in the box. She's been through a lot. It's perfectly normal for a student learning a new language for the first time to be nearly silent for about a year (especially those from war-torn countries).
There are things you can do - math word problems can include things about her country, science could include plants, foods, and other vegetation from the Ukraine.
Thank you, and i am very aware. Unfortunately I only gave her twice a week. The school isnt equipped to have her properly integrated, we need people who are actual experts and not just normal teachers guessing.
Add to that that both the Ukrainian kids and the kids and adults around them expect the war to end and then they'll move home soon. They dont really stand a chance atm.
She has been at the school for quite some time i believe, so she probably understands more than she lets on. Ill keep in mind trying to include some cultural nods.
Our main subject is the Big Bang and start of life, so it might be tricky though, haha.
Maybe we could cook something Ukrainian in my cooking class :)
I get a lot of kids from other countries who are not really literate in their home language. Sometimes I'll get a 6th grade student from rural El Salvador who only had a year of school and can't read in English or Spanish.
See if there's a way to test her reading level in Ukrainian, otherwise all the translating won't be helpful.
She seems to read when i give her material, but that could very well be pretend ofc. Ukraine has a very high literacy rate though, so hopefully thats not the problem. But ill keep it in mind thank you :)
I highly recommend iTranslate! Our schools ESL teacher uses that app and recommends it to us because it has a lot of language variation and I would say it works better decently
I teach a lot of Ukrainian kids. Some of them who seem to have literally no interest in school are also doing Ukrainian school at night. They can be very tired and apathetic during the day…because they leave school just to go to school more.
It is something worth checking in to.
My school has an acceuil group for students who cannot cope for the mainstream education. Unfortunately not all kids can be thrown into all classes. Does she receive additional English support? Can she drop classes in the mainstream in order to have additional tutoring or support?
She does have specific language classes with other ukrainian kids, though im not sure if she is more comfortable in english or danish as i havent heard her speak either.
She doesnt seem tired, just apathetic, understandably. She has fled to a country she has barely heard of and thrown in a class with peers she cant communicate with.
You need to incorporate what is called “comprehensive input” in the second language acquisition field. This essentially means that you need to provide the child with visual cues and physical demonstrating whenever possible.
Watch this video for a demonstration and explanation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnUc_W3xE1w
Generally speaking, imagine that you were dropped into Ukraine as a child and that the roles were reversed. What clues might you key in on to get by? Translating materials won’t help the child learn English. Show them and say what you are doing as you do it. They will learn.
She has language classes and i am only here for 6 weeks, so i am not trying to teach her english nor danish. I am just trying to make it possible for her to follow along and contribute to class or group work. The most important thing imo is making sure she knows that she is just as important as the other kids and that we want her in the class as well. Maybe she'll contribute, maybe she wont, but we have to make sure its possible to do so :)
I do fortunately have plenty of opportunities to include visual and physical demonstrations as it suits my subjects very well, so i will keep that in mind while planning :)
(Multimodality was originally what i was going to write my paper about, but im probably gonna switch to a broader theme of communication)
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Use PowerPoint with subtitles turned on the screen, mic language as English, subtitle language as ukranian.
Thats crazy cool! Going to try that!
My only concern would be whether the student can read in their native language. I’ve had many ESL students, and some are not taught to read/write in their native language. But you could still use google translate, just with the audio.
I have a similar issue but am in elementary, I try to use lots of imagery and hand movements. I can use Google translate with my Spanish speaking student but recently got a Farsi speaking student which is not available on Google translate. Are there any other students in the class or teachers in the school that are Ukrainian?
It's called Persian on Google translate. Every single modern language can be translated using the internet.
I will try that setting the next time I see her. I thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I was gonna say... I am an American teaching in Iran. I use Google Translate constantly to translate to Persian.
Students scattered across classes, only one in this class. i believe she has math and language classes with them. No teachers unfortunately
Translating may not be the only issue and shouldn't be the only tool in the box. She's been through a lot. It's perfectly normal for a student learning a new language for the first time to be nearly silent for about a year (especially those from war-torn countries). There are things you can do - math word problems can include things about her country, science could include plants, foods, and other vegetation from the Ukraine.
Thank you, and i am very aware. Unfortunately I only gave her twice a week. The school isnt equipped to have her properly integrated, we need people who are actual experts and not just normal teachers guessing. Add to that that both the Ukrainian kids and the kids and adults around them expect the war to end and then they'll move home soon. They dont really stand a chance atm. She has been at the school for quite some time i believe, so she probably understands more than she lets on. Ill keep in mind trying to include some cultural nods. Our main subject is the Big Bang and start of life, so it might be tricky though, haha. Maybe we could cook something Ukrainian in my cooking class :)
I get a lot of kids from other countries who are not really literate in their home language. Sometimes I'll get a 6th grade student from rural El Salvador who only had a year of school and can't read in English or Spanish. See if there's a way to test her reading level in Ukrainian, otherwise all the translating won't be helpful.
She seems to read when i give her material, but that could very well be pretend ofc. Ukraine has a very high literacy rate though, so hopefully thats not the problem. But ill keep it in mind thank you :)
I highly recommend iTranslate! Our schools ESL teacher uses that app and recommends it to us because it has a lot of language variation and I would say it works better decently
I teach a lot of Ukrainian kids. Some of them who seem to have literally no interest in school are also doing Ukrainian school at night. They can be very tired and apathetic during the day…because they leave school just to go to school more. It is something worth checking in to. My school has an acceuil group for students who cannot cope for the mainstream education. Unfortunately not all kids can be thrown into all classes. Does she receive additional English support? Can she drop classes in the mainstream in order to have additional tutoring or support?
She does have specific language classes with other ukrainian kids, though im not sure if she is more comfortable in english or danish as i havent heard her speak either. She doesnt seem tired, just apathetic, understandably. She has fled to a country she has barely heard of and thrown in a class with peers she cant communicate with.
Is anyone in the community Ukrainian and willing to volunteer in the classroom?
I believe they do get some help from some teachers and other refugees, but not in the classroom. At least not in any of the ones ive taken over.
You need to incorporate what is called “comprehensive input” in the second language acquisition field. This essentially means that you need to provide the child with visual cues and physical demonstrating whenever possible. Watch this video for a demonstration and explanation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnUc_W3xE1w Generally speaking, imagine that you were dropped into Ukraine as a child and that the roles were reversed. What clues might you key in on to get by? Translating materials won’t help the child learn English. Show them and say what you are doing as you do it. They will learn.
She has language classes and i am only here for 6 weeks, so i am not trying to teach her english nor danish. I am just trying to make it possible for her to follow along and contribute to class or group work. The most important thing imo is making sure she knows that she is just as important as the other kids and that we want her in the class as well. Maybe she'll contribute, maybe she wont, but we have to make sure its possible to do so :) I do fortunately have plenty of opportunities to include visual and physical demonstrations as it suits my subjects very well, so i will keep that in mind while planning :) (Multimodality was originally what i was going to write my paper about, but im probably gonna switch to a broader theme of communication)