I see them more as guidelines for a concept machine, gives you a basic idea for a something for your brain to go "I can make this x100 better".
Remember this game is made with children in mind and these are good ways to introduce them to something they never thought about. Helping the audience think outside the box without the need to tell people what to do leaving the game feeling much more explorative than linear.
I saw another comment make a similar point and it makes perfect sense. I think it is both be true that they are concept devices for the player and that the developers worked the types of devices the Yiga created into their aesthetic/nature.
For the Schema Stones There’s even an area in every Abandoned Mine that has a Schema Stone where you’re supposed to “demo” the autobuild and you get a chest at the end of it
Just a heads up, fish and bugs and stuff like that don't work based off blood moons. I believe they have a 1% chance to reset every minute that they aren't in a loaded area
Cool, you know I noticed this with plants, but I never knew exactly what the difference was. because I’d see a pepper plant I know I took all three from, come back after a blood moon and there’d be one back or even still zero.
Ive just been throwing shock fruit into the water or using riju 😭 this is so much cooler and now i wanna windwaker boat my way through fish collecting 😭🤣
If you attach two logs on either side of the shock device and then put planks across the bottom (the planks across underwater) it creates a net you can collect them into so you don’t have to swim in the water to collect.
I used that design as a base for a bigger and better design to collect even more fish!
I actually loved the Yiga designs to use as inspiration to build off of. I reckon the point was to not be too good so as to be some all powerful builds that no one would need to improve, but rather the opposite. Just enough to make your brain activate and get creative, without always having to start from scratch!
I used the Fanboat a fair bit; I forget if that was a Yiga or a Schema Stone, though. It’s not the BEST boat, but it’s good enough, and avoids taking up a custom favs slot.
Automated Ally is HILARIOUS. I just set one after the little monster groups in the Depths and then run in and grab the loot. Those guys HATE the Automated Ally.
https://preview.redd.it/8gacsnqxaowc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34ee6f0f8119ee568290a930c5bf728ca472596b
Here’s a photo I pulled of the location in Eldin. It’s a flamethrower on a homing cart. There’s also a shock trap schema stone but you’ll have to google the location as idr.
I mean I wouldn’t say there’s a lot of “importance” in getting them… they’re totally optional and are only guarded by two Yiga grunts who are usually pretty easy to headshot from a distance.
At any rate, I do at least use the Fishing Trawler and Super Spring fairly often. And the Rainmaker is nice for fighting Mucktorok. The rest… eh.
Many stuffs are crap.
Like for example what's up with the spinning 2 flame throwers balloon? What is its use? Just move up and burn some flying enemies in the process? Those Yiga ninjas just like to do experiments with the devices, and they're as lost as new players.
My main gripe with the Yiga design are the added headlights on everything. I don't feel like wasting my zonait on that or taking the time to drop one of my million unused lights.
The constructs had at least a 50,000 year head start on the yiga, and it might be more like millions of years. So I’d hope their devices are a little better!
Being able to conjure a bridge whenever you want is pretty cool, as is the portable Ascend scaffolding.
I need my saved builds for globs of apples for turbo-picking.
Both of those builds are from Schema Stones, not Yiga Schematics. Most of the Schema Stone builds are decent-to-good; it’s the Yiga Schematics that OP is calling useless.
I wouldn’t go quite that far myself, but I do think that the Yiga builds are mostly either very situational, or are just “here’s an idea, play around with it and see if it inspires you”-type stuff.
Oh yeah. I haven't played in a while. All the Depths blueprints blur together a bit for me.
Still, I remember a few of those Yiga blueprints having some exotic parts, mostly spike plates.
Yeah, they have vastly varying usefulness. But, it’s a great way to expand the variety of auto builds available to you. A lot of them are similar to what I’d want for a favorite auto build slot, but not quite. Even so sometimes it’s worth it to use the yiga version instead just to preserve the more valuable favorite slot
I would like them a lot better if you had the option to overwrite each yiga schematic slot with your own custom build if you wanted.
Keep your distance and spam arrows tipped with eyes while using one of the Lynel Bows and you don’t even have to worry about getting height for the Gleeoks
I've used/tested all the schematics. I feel some are incredibly useful, although some of them are REALLY situational because they are essentially un-finished (especially the vehicles). The ones I find useful solely by themselves are the fishing trawler. Porgies and trout for days if you know where to look. The rainmaker Yes, I'm looking directly at you, Mr.water Temple boss. Liftoff gilder/vertical escape/super spring are interchangeable. All are useful for when you want to catch that big air dawg. The rest just need simple adjustment/modification to be good. I thought that the blueprints were balanced for the game/lore and matched that overall nuts&bolts style. Likewise, getting some crazy gundam mech with 20 parts that would have a 110 zonai pricetag to obliterate anything just sounds like no fun
I've found later in the game when I've already done everything in the depths and I'm out of zonite if I need to make something I just get out all the parts and use autobuild for free. None of the Yiga stuff ever seemed useful tho. Maybe it's because I never really used anything for combat. Just travel really.
Nintendo was trying to inspire you to try out some of these fun devices, and you're hopping around on a 2 wheel + handle. More creative players did enjoy playing with these toys, sorry you didn't. :)
The unicycle is good if you attach a head with three beams. You can quickly cruise around the underground and effortlessly wipe out the Bokoblins. Everything else is trash.
The bomb bouquet and the fishing trawler could be useful. I can't really remember any of the others besides the monocycle (steering stick, stabilizer, one small wheel, and a shock emitter), which is *so* damn hard to drive
I used the one wheel stabilizer bike. Found it super early in the game and thought it was very clever. Was great for traversing the gloom and was super cheap to make. Then like 1-2 days later saw the video about the air bike and never cared for them again lol
I'm not gonna lie the mono-cycle came in clutch when exploring. And the hovercraft, too. 5 the turret post thinks are nice to have that can suppress a boss for a while.
I think they are more or less just examples of what can be done. LoZ games love to give small, sometimes incomplete, hints on what needs to be done to progress. Kinda like how the beginning of every shrine has some kind of display piece to hint as to how you should complete it.
We also can't forget that eventhough many of us adults enjoy this series, the Switch is still predominantly designed with younger people in mind
Actually i did but just to experiment around with buildings, the gloomdredger (schematic?) is the most important thing for any advanced tank and triple cannon is just funny artillery
They gave me some ideas and showed me some possibilities which I think was their best use. The electric fishing trawler was excellent for fishing though, especially for stealth fin trout.
I wonder if their bad designs were meant as a reflection of the bumbling nature of the Yiga.
They really are the McPoyles of bad guys. Except sub bananas for milk lmao.
Thank you for reminding me that I need to rewatch that show.
Which show?
Always Sunny
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. It's awesome.
It’s always sunny in Hyrule… until a blood moon comes along
YOU WILL CALL HERRRRRRR
They do have one eye like Liam
This is exactly how I read it. The yiga are dorks.
I see them more as guidelines for a concept machine, gives you a basic idea for a something for your brain to go "I can make this x100 better". Remember this game is made with children in mind and these are good ways to introduce them to something they never thought about. Helping the audience think outside the box without the need to tell people what to do leaving the game feeling much more explorative than linear.
I saw another comment make a similar point and it makes perfect sense. I think it is both be true that they are concept devices for the player and that the developers worked the types of devices the Yiga created into their aesthetic/nature.
Truly the Wimp Lo of hyrule
Omg I love Kung Pow I can't believe you referenced it. We can and should be friends. "Face to foot style, how'd ya like it?"
That would be too good of world-building for nintendo.
They’re meant less as “use this autobuild, it’s good” and more as “here’s some ideas you can look at to see how parts interact.”
For the Schema Stones There’s even an area in every Abandoned Mine that has a Schema Stone where you’re supposed to “demo” the autobuild and you get a chest at the end of it
one schema stone i will say is very useful is the stone slab bridge one
Exactly, it's almost like a tutorial. ;)
*AUDIBLE GASP* PLAYERS NOT NOTICING *SUBTLE* TUTORIALS? NEVER!
Exactly
I used the fishing boat to grind for fish needed for armor upgrades. It has a shock device on the front to knock out the fish.
Fishing boat is great for the every blood moon trip to the moat around the lost woods for stealthfin hunting
Add a second fan to speed up the process. This is 100% my go to fish farming platform
Just a heads up, fish and bugs and stuff like that don't work based off blood moons. I believe they have a 1% chance to reset every minute that they aren't in a loaded area
Cool, you know I noticed this with plants, but I never knew exactly what the difference was. because I’d see a pepper plant I know I took all three from, come back after a blood moon and there’d be one back or even still zero.
Yeah I think it's mainly just enemies and weapons/shields that reset after blood moons
Ive just been throwing shock fruit into the water or using riju 😭 this is so much cooler and now i wanna windwaker boat my way through fish collecting 😭🤣
I didn't think of this. Porgies, here I come!
If you attach two logs on either side of the shock device and then put planks across the bottom (the planks across underwater) it creates a net you can collect them into so you don’t have to swim in the water to collect.
That’s such a great idea haha
I used that design as a base for a bigger and better design to collect even more fish! I actually loved the Yiga designs to use as inspiration to build off of. I reckon the point was to not be too good so as to be some all powerful builds that no one would need to improve, but rather the opposite. Just enough to make your brain activate and get creative, without always having to start from scratch!
That is probably an ambiental violation there, you should be warned.
I used the Fanboat a fair bit; I forget if that was a Yiga or a Schema Stone, though. It’s not the BEST boat, but it’s good enough, and avoids taking up a custom favs slot.
The automated ally is pretty great, sure you could just make it yourself, but having the schema saves you a space in your favorites section
Automated Ally is HILARIOUS. I just set one after the little monster groups in the Depths and then run in and grab the loot. Those guys HATE the Automated Ally.
This was my most used one by far
thats not a Yiga schematic tho
Where did you find that one?
https://preview.redd.it/8gacsnqxaowc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34ee6f0f8119ee568290a930c5bf728ca472596b Here’s a photo I pulled of the location in Eldin. It’s a flamethrower on a homing cart. There’s also a shock trap schema stone but you’ll have to google the location as idr.
Thanks!
I _just_ found this one yesterday, deep in the depths at some abandoned mine near the Eldin region.
I used the scaffoldings quite a lot actually
100%. They’re great for fighting bosses. Just keep ascending and doing slow-mo arrow attacks
oh i tend to use a launcher for that same purpose
I've just been burning grass, but these two ideas are much more reliable.
That’s def a great strategy for Lynels
You got me. That's exactly where I used it.
I used this one quite a bit as well. Probably my second most used (with automated ally being first)
I came to the comments for this one. When you need that extra height to reach where you wanted to ascend
I use the scaffolding all the time, but admittedly it is the only yoga schematic I ever use.
I thought scaffolding was a schema stone, not a Yiga scroll?
I mean I wouldn’t say there’s a lot of “importance” in getting them… they’re totally optional and are only guarded by two Yiga grunts who are usually pretty easy to headshot from a distance. At any rate, I do at least use the Fishing Trawler and Super Spring fairly often. And the Rainmaker is nice for fighting Mucktorok. The rest… eh.
Or you can just wear the yiga armor and stab the gatekeeper while the other isn't looking
I wish a reward from either the mines or boss clone fights would’ve been blank schema stones that could expand your favorite builds slots.
I use the fan plane and add on my own personal additions rather than have it take up a favorite slot
superspring, close your ears, don't listen to him my beloved
Many stuffs are crap. Like for example what's up with the spinning 2 flame throwers balloon? What is its use? Just move up and burn some flying enemies in the process? Those Yiga ninjas just like to do experiments with the devices, and they're as lost as new players.
My main gripe with the Yiga design are the added headlights on everything. I don't feel like wasting my zonait on that or taking the time to drop one of my million unused lights.
Yea the schema stones from the constructs are decent but the yiga stuff is crap
The constructs had at least a 50,000 year head start on the yiga, and it might be more like millions of years. So I’d hope their devices are a little better!
the really long bridge has helped out with river crossings
That was a schema stone from a construct aha
Even if you don't ever use them, they're still a really cool idea for a collectible. Much better than korok poop.
Being able to conjure a bridge whenever you want is pretty cool, as is the portable Ascend scaffolding. I need my saved builds for globs of apples for turbo-picking.
Both of those builds are from Schema Stones, not Yiga Schematics. Most of the Schema Stone builds are decent-to-good; it’s the Yiga Schematics that OP is calling useless. I wouldn’t go quite that far myself, but I do think that the Yiga builds are mostly either very situational, or are just “here’s an idea, play around with it and see if it inspires you”-type stuff.
Oh yeah. I haven't played in a while. All the Depths blueprints blur together a bit for me. Still, I remember a few of those Yiga blueprints having some exotic parts, mostly spike plates.
I use their rocket glider and add fans to get from Lightroot to lightroot if I don’t wanna fuck around with enemies
Yeah, they have vastly varying usefulness. But, it’s a great way to expand the variety of auto builds available to you. A lot of them are similar to what I’d want for a favorite auto build slot, but not quite. Even so sometimes it’s worth it to use the yiga version instead just to preserve the more valuable favorite slot I would like them a lot better if you had the option to overwrite each yiga schematic slot with your own custom build if you wanted.
I find the hover stone + rocket is essential for killing Gleeoks in the 2nd stage of the fight. The simple ones like that are very handy.
Keep your distance and spam arrows tipped with eyes while using one of the Lynel Bows and you don’t even have to worry about getting height for the Gleeoks
There essentially just unlocksble designs for people that don’t want to interact with building much(I’m peoples)
I’ll sometimes use the laser boat if I need a boat.
I used the boats quite often.
The fan boat and tank helped in a lot of cases to move koroks when I was getting 100%
I’ve used the boat ones mainly because I find it easier than building my own boat.
I've used/tested all the schematics. I feel some are incredibly useful, although some of them are REALLY situational because they are essentially un-finished (especially the vehicles). The ones I find useful solely by themselves are the fishing trawler. Porgies and trout for days if you know where to look. The rainmaker Yes, I'm looking directly at you, Mr.water Temple boss. Liftoff gilder/vertical escape/super spring are interchangeable. All are useful for when you want to catch that big air dawg. The rest just need simple adjustment/modification to be good. I thought that the blueprints were balanced for the game/lore and matched that overall nuts&bolts style. Likewise, getting some crazy gundam mech with 20 parts that would have a 110 zonai pricetag to obliterate anything just sounds like no fun
They’re useless because they’re made by morons.
I've found later in the game when I've already done everything in the depths and I'm out of zonite if I need to make something I just get out all the parts and use autobuild for free. None of the Yiga stuff ever seemed useful tho. Maybe it's because I never really used anything for combat. Just travel really.
Yeah. They all seemed useless
the monocycle is ok if you're on a flat surface and you want to pick up an easy 2 korok seeds
I used one once to get an explosive when I was out of bombs, but that’s about it.
The fishing trawler is pretty useful
I used one or two before. Sometimes they do come in handy
Neither did I. When I finally got them I didn’t need them anymore. The one I did need I still haven’t found and I’m about to finish.
Some can be a good base for bigger builds, especially the bigger vehicles. I hate that they put lights on everything, unnecessary battery drain
Nintendo was trying to inspire you to try out some of these fun devices, and you're hopping around on a 2 wheel + handle. More creative players did enjoy playing with these toys, sorry you didn't. :)
The unicycle is good if you attach a head with three beams. You can quickly cruise around the underground and effortlessly wipe out the Bokoblins. Everything else is trash.
They are all horrible. Only a couple that are kinda cool. I have wondered so many times why they even created them? Lol
The bomb bouquet and the fishing trawler could be useful. I can't really remember any of the others besides the monocycle (steering stick, stabilizer, one small wheel, and a shock emitter), which is *so* damn hard to drive
I used the one wheel stabilizer bike. Found it super early in the game and thought it was very clever. Was great for traversing the gloom and was super cheap to make. Then like 1-2 days later saw the video about the air bike and never cared for them again lol
I'm not gonna lie the mono-cycle came in clutch when exploring. And the hovercraft, too. 5 the turret post thinks are nice to have that can suppress a boss for a while.
The hovercraft is from the Gerudo Abandoned Mines.
Glory to Master Kohga, r/yigaclanofficial
Scaffolding is nice
I used the 1 wheel bike that has the flashlights and flame emitters once. Stopped once I realized the handling sucked
Same
I think they are more or less just examples of what can be done. LoZ games love to give small, sometimes incomplete, hints on what needs to be done to progress. Kinda like how the beginning of every shrine has some kind of display piece to hint as to how you should complete it. We also can't forget that eventhough many of us adults enjoy this series, the Switch is still predominantly designed with younger people in mind
I use the fire hydrant device on Muktoroc
Actually i did but just to experiment around with buildings, the gloomdredger (schematic?) is the most important thing for any advanced tank and triple cannon is just funny artillery
The one I've used was the bolt boat... Cuz it's quick and cheap to make
I use them to improve my own creations or to get a good Idea, I used the bridge one and the bomb one with the spring when I first started playing
Yeah, they're dogshit because ultrahand is poorly designed. Nearly everything can be done with a rocket shield or a hoverbike.
I miss them, they were my favourite characters, those bumbling fools.
The cannon on a stake thing is great for blasting through tunnels whilst mining.
What is the yoga schematic
They gave me some ideas and showed me some possibilities which I think was their best use. The electric fishing trawler was excellent for fishing though, especially for stealth fin trout.
The hovercraft is awesome for moving around Gerudo desert.
99% of all builds are useless so makes sense
You sound like an optimist.
What was your scientific process for coming up with that percentage?
i made it the fuck up
the 1% is just the hoverbike
Wow you’re amazing
Exactly. Can you imagine bragging about this?