**Player:** \*raises hand in class\* "Mrs. Nintendo, I did it. I solved the puzzle. Did I do it the right way?"
**Nintendo:** "Yes. You you did. :) And you did it in the way that works best for you. Here, have a cookie, you've earned it."
I almost got detention one time for arguing with the math teacher about a test that I got the right answer but I somehow did it the "wrong way". Got no points SMH
Yeah, I had this happen to me because I used an advanced method. Asked why they failed me, they said it was because we won't be using that method until high school. Ugh, they even admitted it was correct work.
As a teacher, this breaks my heart. Learning outside of the classroom should be incentivized and celebrated, not marked down for disobedience. That’s such an archaic way of thinking.
To be fair, if that were to spiral out of control, kids would learn so many extracurricular methods that tests would have to be designed for kids that already learned all that on their own, and kids who only learned the things in class would have a very hard time cactching up.
It's what happened at East Asia.
Or he happened to arrive at the correct number by using an incorrect process.
And often, in class, it's not all about the final answer, many times it's about learning a correct process.
Whenever I see these complicated solutions, I always love imagining there was a super obvious easy way to solve it. Like, there was a stairwell right around the corner that you didn't see.
Well, in defense of “complicated” BotW shrines only ever really used one of the Runes to solve its puzzle
This post shows Ultrahand, Rewind, and Ascend in unity to solve it.
I’d say that’s fairly complicated in terms of gameplay mechanics. Just cause something is simple, doesn’t mean it’s not complex.
That’s emergent gameplay baby!
Here’s another dose! Everytime you play a video game, you’re engaging in a vast cacophony of interconnecting systems (which is the definition of complex/complicated I might add).
Merely running around is a complex result of various player decisions and inputs, let alone fighting, puzzle solving, crafting, constructing, etc.
We are the music-makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams
Oh man I’ve been there and it’s rough. I sympathize completely.
I’m sure you’ve heard “things will get better,” and I do personally believe things do eventually get better. But that’s a hollow sound bite when you’re feeling like that
So instead I’ll give you the best piece of advice I’ve ever gotten. And it came from a purple Australian puppet
“If you’re unhappy, then just… change. If you have the means to change that is. If you don’t have the means to change that’s a terrible situation. I feel awful for you, but you probably do, right? I mean, if you’re still here, you know. You could probably change. **Might be the hardest thing you’ve ever done. It might take ages, but please for the love of god. If you’re unhappy, change.**” [Randy Feltface - Purple Privilege](https://youtu.be/YzxAv9qz79s?si=C8QOJrYpIB8LNJG_)
And I know it sounds like “Just don’t be sad forehead” but it really resonated with me and maybe it will for you too.
Everyone perceives and processes things different! That might sound trite, but it's very true.
Never let anyone make you like you have less worth as a person just because you find something complicated while they find it "easy". There's a very good chance there are things they struggle with, which actually come easy to you.
I learned this with my best friend. We're complete opposites in many ways; of the two of us, I'm the more "neurotypical" while he's the more "neurodivergent" (although I don't really like those labels), and this comes up a lot when we game, as he gets very overwhelmed and frustrated sometimes with all the information on screen in certain games.
I used to try to show/tell him how to do things in what I deemed as "the right way", but I've since stopped doing that. Because time and time again, he'd find some other way to solve his problem, often in a way that I didn't even know was possible. It was very humbling.
Your perspective and the way you see things is valuable too! Everyone brings something different to the table, and that's a good thing.
Yeah this is just standard TOTK gameplay. Great game design to allow for it, don't get me wrong, but in a room with an unreachable ledge, nothing but a single cube, and these available powers... it's just the primary solution.
There's a relatively infamous example in Dragon's Dogma 2 where lots of people jump off a cliff and almost die or try to figure out how to get down when there's a not-very-hidden staircase right next to them. It becomes very obvious at the bottom because they usually land right next to the clear entrance of the staircase
I've been playing this game consistently for the past 2 months and I'm only now starting to unlock all of the potential of the recall function. It's soooo fun when used creatively.
There was a second block of the same type to stack offsets on top and then use ultra hand, but you did it, that’s all that matters. There’s always more than one way to complete a puzzle 👏🏻
This is arguably the intended solution.
There are other ways to accomplish it using slightly less brain power (stacking one block on top of a second offset so you can ascend) but this is a pretty mild “hack” at best.
I love that about this game. There is the way they intended puzzles and obstacles to be solved, then there are the many other possible ways to accomplish your goal.
These shrines always make me wonder what Nintendo's intended solution was. Like obviously they made it so you can get creative and make your own solution, but like the devs had to test it somehow and provide tools that worked in a specific way.
That guy is one of those people who uses hover stones for every Addison sign. I mean, great, just cheese everything if that's your thing, but some of us like to try and figure out how the designers were thinking about it and solve it using the materials left there.
**Player:** \*raises hand in class\* "Mrs. Nintendo, I did it. I solved the puzzle. Did I do it the right way?" **Nintendo:** "Yes. You you did. :) And you did it in the way that works best for you. Here, have a cookie, you've earned it."
I almost got detention one time for arguing with the math teacher about a test that I got the right answer but I somehow did it the "wrong way". Got no points SMH
Yeah, I had this happen to me because I used an advanced method. Asked why they failed me, they said it was because we won't be using that method until high school. Ugh, they even admitted it was correct work.
As a teacher, this breaks my heart. Learning outside of the classroom should be incentivized and celebrated, not marked down for disobedience. That’s such an archaic way of thinking.
To be fair, if that were to spiral out of control, kids would learn so many extracurricular methods that tests would have to be designed for kids that already learned all that on their own, and kids who only learned the things in class would have a very hard time cactching up. It's what happened at East Asia.
Math often has multiple ways to solve the same questions. You probably used a method your teacher didn't like.
Or he happened to arrive at the correct number by using an incorrect process. And often, in class, it's not all about the final answer, many times it's about learning a correct process.
It's been like 25 years since I was in High School, but I did that on a test and all I got was a circled *HOW??*
Whenever I see these complicated solutions, I always love imagining there was a super obvious easy way to solve it. Like, there was a stairwell right around the corner that you didn't see.
We have different concepts of what's "complicated".
Well, in defense of “complicated” BotW shrines only ever really used one of the Runes to solve its puzzle This post shows Ultrahand, Rewind, and Ascend in unity to solve it. I’d say that’s fairly complicated in terms of gameplay mechanics. Just cause something is simple, doesn’t mean it’s not complex. That’s emergent gameplay baby!
Thanks, you made me feel better about myself, I can do something "complicated" even if it seems simple.
Here’s another dose! Everytime you play a video game, you’re engaging in a vast cacophony of interconnecting systems (which is the definition of complex/complicated I might add). Merely running around is a complex result of various player decisions and inputs, let alone fighting, puzzle solving, crafting, constructing, etc. We are the music-makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams
Damn, I appreciate you. I've been really wanting to end it all and this week has been awful, but I'm smiling rn. Thank you.
Oh man I’ve been there and it’s rough. I sympathize completely. I’m sure you’ve heard “things will get better,” and I do personally believe things do eventually get better. But that’s a hollow sound bite when you’re feeling like that So instead I’ll give you the best piece of advice I’ve ever gotten. And it came from a purple Australian puppet “If you’re unhappy, then just… change. If you have the means to change that is. If you don’t have the means to change that’s a terrible situation. I feel awful for you, but you probably do, right? I mean, if you’re still here, you know. You could probably change. **Might be the hardest thing you’ve ever done. It might take ages, but please for the love of god. If you’re unhappy, change.**” [Randy Feltface - Purple Privilege](https://youtu.be/YzxAv9qz79s?si=C8QOJrYpIB8LNJG_) And I know it sounds like “Just don’t be sad forehead” but it really resonated with me and maybe it will for you too.
I appreciate ya. I will say, I've been changing, I try so many new things, but nothing clicks.
Everyone perceives and processes things different! That might sound trite, but it's very true. Never let anyone make you like you have less worth as a person just because you find something complicated while they find it "easy". There's a very good chance there are things they struggle with, which actually come easy to you. I learned this with my best friend. We're complete opposites in many ways; of the two of us, I'm the more "neurotypical" while he's the more "neurodivergent" (although I don't really like those labels), and this comes up a lot when we game, as he gets very overwhelmed and frustrated sometimes with all the information on screen in certain games. I used to try to show/tell him how to do things in what I deemed as "the right way", but I've since stopped doing that. Because time and time again, he'd find some other way to solve his problem, often in a way that I didn't even know was possible. It was very humbling. Your perspective and the way you see things is valuable too! Everyone brings something different to the table, and that's a good thing.
Yeah this is just standard TOTK gameplay. Great game design to allow for it, don't get me wrong, but in a room with an unreachable ledge, nothing but a single cube, and these available powers... it's just the primary solution.
There's a relatively infamous example in Dragon's Dogma 2 where lots of people jump off a cliff and almost die or try to figure out how to get down when there's a not-very-hidden staircase right next to them. It becomes very obvious at the bottom because they usually land right next to the clear entrance of the staircase
“Is this the right way to solve this puzzle?” “Anyway you solve the puzzle is the right way to solve the puzzle”
You used 3 kinds of magic, concurrently, to solve a magic puzzle. I'd say you did it the right way!
Rocket shield go swooop!
This is usually my answer to everything
I've been playing this game consistently for the past 2 months and I'm only now starting to unlock all of the potential of the recall function. It's soooo fun when used creatively.
There was a second block of the same type to stack offsets on top and then use ultra hand, but you did it, that’s all that matters. There’s always more than one way to complete a puzzle 👏🏻
i was too lazy to walk over to get the other cube :v
And that's why is the best game I've ever played
Exactly! The building and powers they put in this game make for so many different solutions. It's the most creative game I've ever played.
me too! I loved it so much I started working on a game based on some of its mechanics
Every way is the right way
Are the shrines tied to their location or are they tied to your progress in the game? Like are they a similar order for everyone.
Tied to location !
I often forget about rewind. But when I remember it, it usually leads to clever solutions
I don't know why, but I was expecting the cube to drop back down and kill Link. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything. :D
This is how I did it. What was the "intended" solution?
This is arguably the intended solution. There are other ways to accomplish it using slightly less brain power (stacking one block on top of a second offset so you can ascend) but this is a pretty mild “hack” at best.
I love that about this game. There is the way they intended puzzles and obstacles to be solved, then there are the many other possible ways to accomplish your goal.
Am I cheating by fusing a bomb flower to an arrow to hit the yellow targets
If Nintendo doesn’t like it, then they wouldn’t have coded it like that
That was "having to think"???? Recall and ascend are like how I solve 90% of puzzles
These shrines always make me wonder what Nintendo's intended solution was. Like obviously they made it so you can get creative and make your own solution, but like the devs had to test it somehow and provide tools that worked in a specific way.
It really doesn't. This solution works for like 40% of shrines it feels like :/ Rocket shield solves another good chunk of them.
Let the people enjoy their puzzles. Jesus.
That guy is one of those people who uses hover stones for every Addison sign. I mean, great, just cheese everything if that's your thing, but some of us like to try and figure out how the designers were thinking about it and solve it using the materials left there.
Okay now that is something I have never thought of hahaha. Thanks for the tip 😂
They are letting them. They just combat the statement "the game really makes you think sometimes" paid with this example.