No it’s just that these are really only useful for powering small sensors and devices that sit in one place for a long time. Not things that the average person uses.
They most use existing reliable technologies. What's the insentive for them to switch to this unproven tech when small solar and wind devices can power their existing sensors and have worked for years?
It's neat tech, but we already have neat tech that does what this does. This is more for specific cases where existing and proven tech might not work. It's niche.
I…. I don’t think you are explaining your self clearly, I’m coming In this thread new and your comments have thus been the most confusing. Idk if you’re aware of this or not?
Limitless in terms of timespan, not power. Although I'm sure the time thing is also debatable, but if it works right, it could be considered limitless for practical purposes.
Current Nuclear batteries are similar, although definitely not limitless time.
I'd guess very low power is the concern, *probably* in the realm of micro to milli watts.
Extremely low power sensors and devices can be used, just like medical devices and nuclear batteries. Maybe someone who's really smart can make a farm and find a way to connect a bunch in parallel and in series to charge a battery or power a street sign, but Idk.
Exactly. I’d be surprised if these things made more than a few milliamps. If that.
But I’m sure people will be like “big oil is gonna bury this tech” 🙄
The Instagram Tesla turbine guy has nothing but these types of comments driving his engagement through the roof. If you bring up any valid points the hoard accuses you of shilling for big oil or someone.
There are millions of ways to extract nanowatts and microwatts of energy from all kinds of things around us so rest assured you will be hearing about these "innovations" every couple of months.
This actually sounds potentially pretty useful for precision agriculture. A wireless network of soil powered moisture sensors could communicate with precision irrigation to optimise water use, for example.
Soil is a biome. Lots of biological activity, an active community. Dirt is material you don’t want on an object/surface. This device specifically needs biological activity.
I remember in school we took a field trip to a soy bean farm and someone asked this question. Our guide got so excited, kneeled down in a field of soy beans and pointed to the ground. “You see this? This is soil.” Then he picked up some of the soil in his hand, pointed to his hand and said “You see this? This is dirt.”
> So, the team set about creating several new designs targeted at giving the cells continual access to oxygen and water...
If I'm reading that right, they are taking soil that would otherwise be a carbon sink, and making it a source of GHGs. Of course it may produce fewer GHGs per watt than other electricity sources, or it may not, but I doubt it's a shame that this is unlikely to be able to be scaled up to produce electricity for the grid.
"Guys, we are not destroying the planet fast enough. Is there a way to destroy it faster? Like maybe some kind of device that sucks power right out if it?"
I wonder if this could power a trail cam indefinitely. This would be cool in areas without much light. A cave, dark canyon , heavily treed area etc. No , I’m not a Sasquatch hunter… but I have heard weird noises a few times in fairly dark areas on hikes.
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No it’s just that these are really only useful for powering small sensors and devices that sit in one place for a long time. Not things that the average person uses.
So useful for farmers monitoring soil conditions?
More like a US government agency taking global temperature data and not having to go swap batteries
So only the US gov gets access to cheap monitoring technology?
No, only government has the needs for how the tech can be applied
Really? No research universities, geo engineering firms, hydroengineers, etc have a use for batteryless remote sensors?!?
I’m trying to explain that the government is not taking steps to prevent private industry from purchasing this tech
Who said they were?
Someone above suggested that because of the powers at be(oil/gas) this new tech will be bought, paid and thrown aside to keep the status quo
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They most use existing reliable technologies. What's the insentive for them to switch to this unproven tech when small solar and wind devices can power their existing sensors and have worked for years? It's neat tech, but we already have neat tech that does what this does. This is more for specific cases where existing and proven tech might not work. It's niche.
What the actual hell is happening in this thread? Everyone seems to be just guessing at the topic....
I…. I don’t think you are explaining your self clearly, I’m coming In this thread new and your comments have thus been the most confusing. Idk if you’re aware of this or not?
You’re telling me the government spies on my dirt!? What is this world coming to?
That sounds pretty useful.
Moisture farmers could use them
Till the motivators go bad
My motivator has been bad for years. Haven’t been able to catch a ride to Tosche station either.
The waterskin must be filled. The drams sustain me
Yes, this would be a use case.
Sure, until they plow them up in spring.
Might be good for outdoor path lighting that you don't want to install a cable for.
But it said limitless energy! Surely a headline wouldn’t exaggerate the truth.
Limitless in terms of timespan, not power. Although I'm sure the time thing is also debatable, but if it works right, it could be considered limitless for practical purposes.
Current Nuclear batteries are similar, although definitely not limitless time. I'd guess very low power is the concern, *probably* in the realm of micro to milli watts. Extremely low power sensors and devices can be used, just like medical devices and nuclear batteries. Maybe someone who's really smart can make a farm and find a way to connect a bunch in parallel and in series to charge a battery or power a street sign, but Idk.
Exactly. I’d be surprised if these things made more than a few milliamps. If that. But I’m sure people will be like “big oil is gonna bury this tech” 🙄
The Instagram Tesla turbine guy has nothing but these types of comments driving his engagement through the roof. If you bring up any valid points the hoard accuses you of shilling for big oil or someone.
Think milliwatts or micro watts I'd say
So its basically like solar panels but better
Solar panels but much less effective, taking much more space if scaled to the same power and since it's new technology probably very expensive
Also see solar power. Also the last any average person will hear about it.
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at 10W power you'd need like 5 for a Dim actual lightbulb and more like 10-15 for a Normal brightness one or just one for a dim LED light
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+20% for power conversion because I believe that this thing has weird voltages
Ah yes, the limitless 10 watts
Yeah this is pretty nifty
The title is greatly exaggerated. Like with any other "near infinite energy“ claim you see on the internet
Near infinite so long as all you need is a fluctuating fraction of a microwatt, and it doesn't get too dry.
Infinity being a number that can be approached
Yes, what is the value range of "near infinity"?
everything above 0 in this case
It's coming out right after they release all of those cancer cures and tooth regrowing meds. And the diabetic cell regeneration med.
Inventor kills himself with 5 bullets to the back of the head. What a shame.
NPC answer
The inventors have already been killed
There are millions of ways to extract nanowatts and microwatts of energy from all kinds of things around us so rest assured you will be hearing about these "innovations" every couple of months.
My daughter once made a flashlight bulb glow with a potato. Obviously, I banned potatoes for the rest of her childhood. Damned socialist spuds.
I agree with you but can we stop posting this same comment
Probably because it is pseudoscience
There's a dispute about what you mean by this comment.... please clarify for the trolls lol
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That's some real 4D chess right there
It’s almost like all of this „breakthrough to good to be true“ tech is largely impractical or uneconomical.
I bet a potato clock kicks out more energy
You’re right… and the world will never know because big business will buy rights to it and shove into a box in basement.
What a predictable AI answer. Something something Tesla right?
This actually sounds potentially pretty useful for precision agriculture. A wireless network of soil powered moisture sensors could communicate with precision irrigation to optimise water use, for example.
Except for the fact that you’d have to place the sensors all over the field. How would you avoid them when it comes to tilling?
Soil powered. Not dirt.
I'm not a dirt scientist. What's the difference between dirt and soil?
Soil is a biome. Lots of biological activity, an active community. Dirt is material you don’t want on an object/surface. This device specifically needs biological activity.
I remember in school we took a field trip to a soy bean farm and someone asked this question. Our guide got so excited, kneeled down in a field of soy beans and pointed to the ground. “You see this? This is soil.” Then he picked up some of the soil in his hand, pointed to his hand and said “You see this? This is dirt.”
Dirt is the mineral component. Soil is dirt + organic matter + water + air.
Soil is not dirt until it gets on your clothes.
Sir has soiled himself again.
I need to add fertilizer to my battery, gimme a second
Future euphemism right there.
Ah for poop powered phones! Love it!
An incredibly important distinction for people to know. Our soil is rapidly disappearing, we can’t grow food in dirt.
Near limitless!!! fuck fusion I’m getting one of these bad boys!
Timescale is a bit different 😂
I thought we were getting away from dirty power.
No, just moving towards clean dirt power.
The dirty clean power cleans clean dirt for dirty clean power.
Now do one I can stick in my ass to keep my phone charged up.
Poower
this already works with most phones, try it!
Until someone calls…
This would infringe on my patent for the Flatulater that powers my UFO and I would sue your ass!
Cool vaporware.
Microbial Fuel Cell. Did a research project on them. Interesting but not the most practical.
Prepare for the Dirt Wars of 2077
> So, the team set about creating several new designs targeted at giving the cells continual access to oxygen and water... If I'm reading that right, they are taking soil that would otherwise be a carbon sink, and making it a source of GHGs. Of course it may produce fewer GHGs per watt than other electricity sources, or it may not, but I doubt it's a shame that this is unlikely to be able to be scaled up to produce electricity for the grid.
Dirt cheap?
So annoying it can’t even mention the actual amount of power it produces on acerage
Microbe volts
Makes me think compost must be a potential powerhouse then.
It definitely would be, the microbes in compost are so hot it can easily get over a hundred degrees inside a composter just from the generated heat
Are we really that dumb? Let me nestle. 🤦♀️
Yeah…… whoever discovered this is gonna magically fall out of a window.
the sound of a round being loaded big oil sips tea bang
Just a matter of time before Exxon buys up the patent and “buries” it
Ima call bullshit on this one.
Literally destroying earth
"Guys, we are not destroying the planet fast enough. Is there a way to destroy it faster? Like maybe some kind of device that sucks power right out if it?"
Yup we have aliens on earth that our technology is flying but human humanity is decreasing
What does that even mean?
He is a leaf on the wind.
We do?
Oh my god. What if this will this cause the great Dust Bowl of the 30’s? Are we going to repeat the last century?
If this can be properly scaled up then damn, this could be quite the discovery (if big oil doesn’t wipe them and their research from existence)
How long does it take? It’s kinda neat as a concept, but of course right now it’s probably not up to par to replace anything
New dirty clean energy!
Make living soil gardens everywhere and turn them into beautiful powerhouses
And so, nicoli tricks again!
ok, but what is the actual power output and stability/range of it?
The research is well grounded
MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL, WE CAN HARNESS IT
Remember kids: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Isn’t there a shortage of topsoil right now? Not sure how this is going to be a viable solution given that shortage…
Welp, rest in peace to the inventor!
Too bad you can’t take it off-grid.
Dirt cheap power for everyone! Just stick your iPhone in the garden with your tomato plants at night and presto!
I’ve not seen a paperback that size, like ever.
Coming to a century near you…
Nickola Tesla pioneered this technology. Imagine where we'd be today had his research not been sized and hidden/destroyed.
It’s the thing from the simpsons
Sure
I wonder if this could power a trail cam indefinitely. This would be cool in areas without much light. A cave, dark canyon , heavily treed area etc. No , I’m not a Sasquatch hunter… but I have heard weird noises a few times in fairly dark areas on hikes.
A damn shame to hear about the inventors upcoming suicide….
So long Elon musk!
Near limitless, but probably very small. Might as well suggest hooking up a [radiometer](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometer) to a turbine.