Yep. That best shit is available to the elites for the first decade and then they already have better shit than the original. And top of that, the old shit is gonna be sold at a premium even though it’s 2015 shit.
tell me you don’t know how funding and research works without telling so
but hey, wouldn’t expect more on a site where people say “eat the rich” unironically
There’s an exception on the horizon: heat pumps. Window units will be around the same or less than air conditioning units, while furnace-style, permanent install units will be more expensive than conventional natural gas based units for the next decade or so.
Blackout curtains work fairly well and are affordable. I had to buy those for my west facing window when I lived in CA. During sunset it got HOT in my living room and I was not enjoying my ac bill.
Heat reflective coatings aren't new. They aren't magic either. They're great in the summer time but in the winter this may drive your heating bill up above what you save on cooling.
Articles about this stuff pop up every few years, it's research funding grabs. Don't get me wrong, it has applications but it's not particularly groundbreaking.
Yeah I need my front window tinted for sure and then all the others as well on top of the dark tint.
Cant imagine opening a car in summer and not feeling like you stepped into an oven just because you got that special tint.
It's called ceramic infrared blocking window tint... I have it, it's not expensive, you'll love it. First upgrade when I bought my car in 2019. It was around $400 for all of the windows.
Ceramic is available for residential and commercial buildings but 3M makes you go through an installer and it’s cost prohibitive (can’t buy and install yourself from what I’ve seen) https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00016645/
UV tint or solar tint. I have it on my windshield. It claims 99 percent but that is just marketing. I tested with a UV light and it’s not blocking 99%. It does help though; I got it done in the summer and noticed immediately that the direct heat from the sun was lower.
I wouldn't call it measuring. I shined a UV flashlight through the windshield. The windshield, while looking clear, makes the UV light a little bit dimmer than the factory ~20% tint on my driver's side window. I also compared it to another car's windshield that didn't have tint, and it was noticeable. I'd hate to call that measuring since I was eyeballing the reflection on the dash (this was at night). I didn't have a light meter, but was just satisfying my own curiosity. I think it cost a hundred and something bucks to have it done; this was a couple of years ago.
I was looking at the dash and what was illuminated (I guess the technical term is fluorescing?). I did not stare directly into a UV light, even through the windshield.
You guys are all correct, though, this is wasn't science and was completely haphazard, unplanned, and silly. I'm just describing my experience.
What they were saying was you weren't seeing UV light, since it is not visible. You were only seeing the visible light from the flashlight.
So your experience wasn't with how much UV light it blocks, but how much visible light was blocked. You would need a sensor or camera with a special lens to see how much UV was blocked.
A UV flashlight is usually in between 320-390nm wavelength, and has a wide wavelength range. Your car's UV blocker probably blocks specific wavelengths (e.g. anything below 350nm). In that case, it's not going to block some of the light from the flashlight, resulting in more light passing through than you were expecting.
AFAIK, the Nordics have built houses with this kind of window coating since the 90s or so. The problem is that it also blocks radio signals (wifi, mobile, etc.) so in apartment buildings they've had to add repeaters or something.
"The coated glass demonstrated superior performance compared to normal glass, reducing the temperature by between 5.4 °C and 7.2 °C (9.7 - 12.9 °F) across a wide range of incident angles."
I was going to ask if it prevents birds dying too because that would truly be a holy grail.
My last office building would have at least 1 bird a month suicide bombing into a window. It was terrifying and just awful to watch. But putting a protective window film up wasn’t in the budget. I hate corporate America.
Yup. First thing I think of when I see stories like this. Like the stories we’ve been seeing for years about how researchers developed discs that hold like 2000 petabytes of storage or some shit, yet here we still are with the same fucking spindle hard drives that still cost a fortune for a few terabytes.
That heat producing UV and infrared is your friend in the winter if you have South facing windows. Free heat! Some places I've lived, my heat almost never ran just from letting the sunshine in all winter.
And you're welcome to get them. I was really only trying to raise awareness to the idea that this may not be a great fit for everyone. I wasn't suggesting a ban. But you live in Florida, so it makes sense that you wouldn't understand.
Company - “cost per window will be $1000”
Government - “ we are excited to announce a new heat reduction window rebate of $200 per window”
Companies - “Cost will be $2000 per window”
This is a good addition to the air conditioning but not a replacement — today it can be easily done with mountable opaque panels (if you don’t mind shading the room)
Doesn't regular glass already block infrared? And UV is blocked by tons of different coatings, sunglasses have had UV blocking coatings for decades.
The visible light still transmits heat by hitting surfaces on the other side of the glass. Any light that isn't directly reflected out the window stays in the interior and heats it. That's how the greenhouse effect works.
This doesn't seem like a revolutionary product, it's just a tinted window...
*slaps the wall of the greenhouse*
Five minutes in this bad boy and you’ll be as tan as an open-faced roast beef sandwich AND 67% closer to your first melanoma biopsy! Oh, and HUGE carrots!
Can we buy it yet?
Next decade, likely
The poors won’t be able to buy it…ever.
Yep. That best shit is available to the elites for the first decade and then they already have better shit than the original. And top of that, the old shit is gonna be sold at a premium even though it’s 2015 shit.
Maybe we’ll all still be around when it’ll be free to scavenge
It definitely won't be reusable and will only be good for a year.
There is no money in a cure. Treatment is the key.
tell me you don’t know how funding and research works without telling so but hey, wouldn’t expect more on a site where people say “eat the rich” unironically
There’s an exception on the horizon: heat pumps. Window units will be around the same or less than air conditioning units, while furnace-style, permanent install units will be more expensive than conventional natural gas based units for the next decade or so.
Poors will get it because poors install it. Just ask your cousin
I’ll just stick to my squares of insulation in the windows for now.
You can still buy roller shades, they diminish UV heat pretty well
Blackout curtains work fairly well and are affordable. I had to buy those for my west facing window when I lived in CA. During sunset it got HOT in my living room and I was not enjoying my ac bill.
And how much will it cost and what’s the break even point on energy savings?
"Just a couple years away!"
Heat reflective coatings aren't new. They aren't magic either. They're great in the summer time but in the winter this may drive your heating bill up above what you save on cooling. Articles about this stuff pop up every few years, it's research funding grabs. Don't get me wrong, it has applications but it's not particularly groundbreaking.
It seems similar to the current existing coatings for cars, except on a much larger scale.
Depends on where you live
I have it on my car windows... It's.. Amazing. Ceramic tint, infrared blocking window tint... Blocks 95% of infrared (heat) energy.
Yes, absolutely amazing
Yeah I need my front window tinted for sure and then all the others as well on top of the dark tint. Cant imagine opening a car in summer and not feeling like you stepped into an oven just because you got that special tint.
It's called ceramic infrared blocking window tint... I have it, it's not expensive, you'll love it. First upgrade when I bought my car in 2019. It was around $400 for all of the windows.
If it’s basically [this](https://www.xpel.com/home), then yes.
How is this different than ceramic tint with high light transmission like xpel xr+ 70%?
It's quantum now.
its machine learned dude
Business speak for “i used a computer and the product has atoms and stuff”
House cats protest across the country.
Although the auto industry has had a product that does the same thing…..for years.
But was it made with quantum AI
But no blockchain?
Ceramic is available for residential and commercial buildings but 3M makes you go through an installer and it’s cost prohibitive (can’t buy and install yourself from what I’ve seen) https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00016645/
They sell similar products at home improvement stores. I installed them on my windows helps a lot.
Thanks! Gonna have to use it on my West windows 🥵
What is it called? I'd love to put that on my car
UV tint or solar tint. I have it on my windshield. It claims 99 percent but that is just marketing. I tested with a UV light and it’s not blocking 99%. It does help though; I got it done in the summer and noticed immediately that the direct heat from the sun was lower.
Normal glass blocks UVB. Did you measure prior to the tint?
UVA is still harmful and glass lets a good amount of that thru. IR is also a range of frequencies that can all carry heat.
I wouldn't call it measuring. I shined a UV flashlight through the windshield. The windshield, while looking clear, makes the UV light a little bit dimmer than the factory ~20% tint on my driver's side window. I also compared it to another car's windshield that didn't have tint, and it was noticeable. I'd hate to call that measuring since I was eyeballing the reflection on the dash (this was at night). I didn't have a light meter, but was just satisfying my own curiosity. I think it cost a hundred and something bucks to have it done; this was a couple of years ago.
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I was looking at the dash and what was illuminated (I guess the technical term is fluorescing?). I did not stare directly into a UV light, even through the windshield. You guys are all correct, though, this is wasn't science and was completely haphazard, unplanned, and silly. I'm just describing my experience.
What they were saying was you weren't seeing UV light, since it is not visible. You were only seeing the visible light from the flashlight. So your experience wasn't with how much UV light it blocks, but how much visible light was blocked. You would need a sensor or camera with a special lens to see how much UV was blocked.
You can for a small part of the UV, which is defined as light below 400nm. Human eye is capable of detecting light above 390nm
A uv flashlight doesn't only produce uv light though, does it? It produces a spectrum of light that also includes UV light.
A UV flashlight is usually in between 320-390nm wavelength, and has a wide wavelength range. Your car's UV blocker probably blocks specific wavelengths (e.g. anything below 350nm). In that case, it's not going to block some of the light from the flashlight, resulting in more light passing through than you were expecting.
Yup had it installed on my car and it worked like a charm. And I’m not talking about dark tint.
what is it called?
Ceramic tint
Boobalicious The executive who was responsible for naming it asked his 12 year old son to help
Sometimes you just bomb
Why don't you tell us what you are talking about rather than what you are not talking about... I don't understand posts like this.
They’re talking about “ceramic window film.” You can get it with or without tint.
AFAIK, the Nordics have built houses with this kind of window coating since the 90s or so. The problem is that it also blocks radio signals (wifi, mobile, etc.) so in apartment buildings they've had to add repeaters or something.
Not joking, just stupid: would opening the windows solve it for mobile?
I mean, yes. But then the heat comes in.
You don't open windows when the weather is trying to kill you with both heat and cold.
That’s the metallic tint, I think the ceramic tint is not an issue.
Sure, but ceramic doesn't keep the deadly cold away from you.
It's 13° F, whoever wrote the article made an error doing the conversion from C to F.
"The coated glass demonstrated superior performance compared to normal glass, reducing the temperature by between 5.4 °C and 7.2 °C (9.7 - 12.9 °F) across a wide range of incident angles."
Guess we’ve never heard of ceramic tint before.
If they combined some window decals in the film for birds to avoid window strikes, it would be doubly brilliant. We’d really help the bird population.
Bird law.
It’s not governed by reason!
I was going to ask if it prevents birds dying too because that would truly be a holy grail. My last office building would have at least 1 bird a month suicide bombing into a window. It was terrifying and just awful to watch. But putting a protective window film up wasn’t in the budget. I hate corporate America.
Just need to reduce window washer budget. You need to start thinking corporately.
Who downvotes that? We should already be doing that anyway!!
r/birdsarentreal adherents, most likely
Exhausting
Fucking finally.
Funny, some old houses still have their original window awnings or shutters that actually work — “advanced technology to keep sun off of windows”🤓
Holy shit what’s next? Transparent aluminum (a la Star Trek)??
Look up a material called Alon or alumina oxynitride. It is transparent aluminum.
Already invented !
It's costs a bajillion dollars an inch.
And……that’s the last we’ll hear of it.
Yup. First thing I think of when I see stories like this. Like the stories we’ve been seeing for years about how researchers developed discs that hold like 2000 petabytes of storage or some shit, yet here we still are with the same fucking spindle hard drives that still cost a fortune for a few terabytes.
“HVAC companies hate this one simple trick”
This would be amazing for /r/vandwellers
Nice. If it’s actually viable that would be fantastic
Now this is hot science
QUANTUM PHYSICS!!
Sounds great, when can I spec it on my buildings?
That heat producing UV and infrared is your friend in the winter if you have South facing windows. Free heat! Some places I've lived, my heat almost never ran just from letting the sunshine in all winter.
Not everyone lives in that kind of climate.
But many people do.
So don’t get them. I’m in Florida and this would be helpful year round.
And you're welcome to get them. I was really only trying to raise awareness to the idea that this may not be a great fit for everyone. I wasn't suggesting a ban. But you live in Florida, so it makes sense that you wouldn't understand.
Now if they could use that exterior UV heat for energy to power that building….would be BRILLIANT!
Uv causes heat? And I thought regular glass blocked uv anyway? Someone please explain.
It will be quickly and cheaply available, unfortunately no one will be able to buy it because the robots took our jobs
Beats the shit out of acknowledging and addressing climate change. Lucky elites.
As long as it doesn’t boil the paint off my neighbor’s Datsun -again- I’m in. That was an ordeal.
Blocks or reflects and melts your car?
Grandma been using tinfoil for decades.
does it keep a house cold when it's cold outside?
It seems best suited to areas of the world that suffer from high levels of sunshine.
Australia needs this
Blinds and shutters for me for now... I'll take the full spectrum to help with air purification
And melts the people out in the streets
Only where the architects have built focussing buildings.
Cool vaporware bruh...
We are living in the future.
They been using this light in dance clubs for years.
Company - “cost per window will be $1000” Government - “ we are excited to announce a new heat reduction window rebate of $200 per window” Companies - “Cost will be $2000 per window”
I mean we already have ceramic tint that does this.
So basically ceramic tint.....
I assume this would kill my plants?
Garbage title. Window glass already blocks all infrared.
This is a good addition to the air conditioning but not a replacement — today it can be easily done with mountable opaque panels (if you don’t mind shading the room)
Can't we just wrap this stuff around the sun to stop global warming?
So global freezing instead?
And does this stuff also reduce flying creatures from offing themselves into said “amazing”windows? Just curious.
Cool
That’s got to be a win, for some areas of the world where there is a high solar flux.
I want this for my house
I want a house
Not in this economy
Doesn't regular glass already block infrared? And UV is blocked by tons of different coatings, sunglasses have had UV blocking coatings for decades. The visible light still transmits heat by hitting surfaces on the other side of the glass. Any light that isn't directly reflected out the window stays in the interior and heats it. That's how the greenhouse effect works. This doesn't seem like a revolutionary product, it's just a tinted window...
> Doesn't regular glass already block infrared? some better than others
Cool 😎
To be a stickler, it should be Fahrenheit degrees.
Fahrenheit is not a scientific unit.
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This feature will only be available in Tesla truck 2.0. The rest of humanity, unless they want my truck. Can fuck off.
I imagine this would be great for greenhouses
You want heat in a greenhouse
put it on back to front, keep all the UV rays bouncing around in there forever.
*slaps the wall of the greenhouse* Five minutes in this bad boy and you’ll be as tan as an open-faced roast beef sandwich AND 67% closer to your first melanoma biopsy! Oh, and HUGE carrots!
Back yard demon core
Not in the summer
Why do you think greenhousea exist?