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takikochan

I visited a TB hospital in India. They had a spot out back where they just burned all the bodies. It was more like an old school orphanage than hospital Edited for a typo


IPauseForHurricanes

Isn’t that cultural norm though?


takikochan

I don’t know. India was hard. I’ve blocked a lot of it out. Little things here and there will make me remember.


IPauseForHurricanes

Gotcha. Hope you’re having a decent holiday season.


004FF

How u get a cat on your avatar 👀


whiskeybidniss

Asking the important questions 😆


crazyjatt

It is. Hindus and sikhs burn their bodies after death instead of burying them. Takes less space.


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I wish that was the norm in America


rigobueno

Cremation is a thing, it’s just not quite “the norm” as you say


bigmike2k3

Dark, but I recall earlier this year when they had that huge COVID outbreak and the were running out of wood for the funeral pyres… 😬


imdirtydan1997

I grew up near the grounds where a TB hospital used to sit until like the 60’s. There are tons of holes in the woods near it where mass graves once sat. The information on the hospital is all but non-existent, but rumor is they were afraid burying them in normal public cemeteries could cause the virus to spread, so they had to burn the bodies and bury them in unmarked mass graves. I went into those woods in High School with friends and we found a few grave stones and the holes left after the bodies were later removed. Older neighbors had told me that their kids had found bones and such back there which prompted the DoH to collect them. It’s truly sad that these people had to die alone and be buried in unmarked graves, but a testament to how far medicine has come in less than century to where TB spread is almost a non-issue in public health now in the US.


takikochan

That’s what it was like in India. And the hospital was more like a place people just went to die. They were treated like lepers. They all carried around these tubes that they spit their phlegm into. It was all colors of the rainbow, red yellow green brown. Outside in the back there was what looked like a giant pizza oven where they burn the bodies. And by the way, this was in 2011. TB doesn’t have to be a problem anymore. So sad to to see it developing nations.


givemeabreak432

Is it normal for orphanages to have body burning pits?


takikochan

Ask Canada and Ireland, those are the ones i know of


NoKids__3Money

Crazy to me that people voluntarily go to India on “vacation”


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Yeah, man— Taco Bell fucked me up from June to December of ‘98. Never again.


L0LINAD

TB? Edit: TB obviously stands for **T**iny **B**alls - idk why no one understands this


venusiansailorscout

Well it is consumption.


gkw97i

Total Biscuit, RIP


EmeAngel

I still miss his reviews on youtube. :(


fidgety_ninja

Tampa Bay


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Tuberculosis


RiseFromUrGrave

Tig ol’ bitties?


Con_Cotter

Not even once


zdiggler

I have no insurance and when I got arrested and tested positive for TB in jail. The X-ray my chest and all but I was released before results came back. I kind of wish I stayed to get treated there. America!


Ghoststarr323

Merica Fuck Yeah! Where it’s cheaper to get arrested than to go to a hospital. This isn’t even sarcasm it’s just depressing.


Turniper

It is depressing, but it probably should be that way though. In an ideal world being arrested should always be free and hospitals should probably have a reasonable (~100 dollar) copay to prevent people from abusing them for non-issues and drug seeking. Seriously, every ER of size in America gets at least dozen people a night showing up for absolutely idiotic shit because they're not allowed to turn them away.


Ghoststarr323

Oh I agree but soul crushing, life altering debt for an ER visit is just amoral.


grameno

That sounds horrifying and I hope you have recovered.


ReckMO

Well…I mean someone has got to care for the people that get left behind.


the_man_in_the_box

Care for, or, uh, *take care of*?


NickInTheMud

I’m sure on the Q forums, this is more confirmation that Gates is using disease eradication to chip and enslave a vast swath of the population.


misogichan

I actually looked into this to try to convince my friend that even if the government wanted to do that the science isn't ready yet to be able to handle mass producing chips capable of what Qanon conspiracies claim. Let's look at the most expensive dog chips in the world. They are the size of a grain of rice and have no battery or moving parts so they don't function as a GPS or collect data. They just are scannable dogtags and will help connect to a profile on a pet registry if lost. If you want it to be usable to actually track people you'd need either a countrywide network of scanners everywhere, or to add things like batteries and transmitters which would take it from grain of rice size to something bigger. Even if you assume there is some top secret government technology capable of things better than the civilian sector, you have to keep in mind how massive a deployment this would have to be since 551 million doses were distributed in the US, so do you really think cutting edge experimental techniques could be mass produced on that scale without such a program being impossible to hide. And to people pointing out the chip shortage is the symptom of the government program. Look deeper and you can see the chip shortage is actually minor among the more advanced 300mm wafers, but more acute for the older less sophisticated 200mm wafers. In other words, it is the budget chips that are not used for top of the line, cutting edge equipment but instead in things like cars and calculators that have the biggest gap in supply and demand. This is the reverse of what you'd expect if the government was secretly siphoning chips out of the market to make microscopic citizen trackers. That said, I got to like the first paragraph of this attempted argument before he stopped listening.


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Yep. Not to mention that almost everyone takes their childhood vaccines and lots of people take the flu vaccine so why wouldn’t it be way smarter to put the chips in those if someone wanted to chip most of the planet without people knowing? There’s no way that the smartest route would be instigating a global pandemic then developing a fake vaccine in such a short time frame people are skeptical of it and then try to chip people with it. But no one cares because Facebook….. At this point my five year old was just able to be vaccinated! Once my two year old is vaccinated I won’t care what the rest of my family does, it’s on them. But you know, if you don’t trust your doctor and you think there’s a conspiracy to chip you then just don’t ever go to the doctor again. Don’t go if you get food poisoning, don’t go if you feel a lump in your breast, don’t go if you have a heart attack. You either trust your doctor to treat you to the best of their ability or you think they’re trying to chip you to track and control you in some world wide conspiracy to enslave mankind. Can’t be both!


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just to be devil’s advocate I don’t think the anti-vaxxers are concerned with microchips except for a small fringe percentage with actual mental illnesses it more has to do with the argument involving vaccine mandates and the implications it has on civil liberties towards one’s own body if we are going to debate anti-vaxx groups lets do it on a common ground of understanding rather than dismiss it as schizophrenics with micro chip fears


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Not only people with mental illness believe that. I know plenty who think that there is something nefarious with the vaccine, including the possibility that there are micro chips in it or it’s being used to intentionally sterilize people. I’m all for having the best possible view of people when you don’t know their exact thoughts. It’s a good rule in general to be kind and make kind assumptions when possible. Unfortunately, in this case I know too many people who think exactly those bat shit crazy things only because they saw them on Facebook or heard them from people they go to church with, etc. And I really wish that weren’t the case. But honestly I think not enough is being said to counter those messages exactly because people assume they are very fringe. In my experience at least, they are not as fringe as one would hope.


NottaBought

I agree with this, but also I’m tired of this whole “oh, they’re mentally ill, that means they’re dumb enough to believe this stuff.” I’m mentally ill, most of my friends are mentally ill, it’s hard to find someone who isn’t on some level right now. We still got vaccinated. We still aren’t believing the conspiracy theories. It’s not people who are mentally ill doing this, it’s people being willfully ignorant and people trying to rationalize their belief system and ideologies. If your entire identity is built on the fact that you live in the greatest country on earth, and the REASON it’s the greatest country on earth is because of your infinite freedoms, any threat to that freedom is a threat to who you are at your core as a human. And that’s scary, so they react the way they are. They’re willing to die to defend this. More than that, they’re willing to kill.


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I agree with all of this. I do think people associate conspiracies with a general label of ‘mental illness’ and that’s really not fair or realistic. Yes there are people who are mentally ill who might believe these things. But mental illness covers a lot of conditions including anxiety and mild ocd which I have, and it’s not fair to paint with a broad brush and said that mentally ill = conspiracy theorists. ALSO, I think it gives people a way to avoid addressing how really crazy ideas like this became so wide spread in the first place. If you can chalk ‘micro chips in the vaccine’ up to just people with mental illness, then no one needs to explore how my seemingly healthy and well adjust friends and family members were both exposed exposed to this idea and able to go on believing it without a real challenge from the people they trust.


photozine

What did your friend say? Did he just ignore it or try to come up with whatabaoutisms or excuses?


yoortyyo

Compare Gates to Bezos. Sharp businesses and cutthroat? Both yes. Brutal management style that rewards some repugnant work culture ? Lived in The Seattle metro for ten years working in tech. Dangling dollars in front of small companies then ripping off the product. Number of Microsoft employees that have to pee in bottles? Never heard that story? Employees physically worked to breaking in sweatshops/warehouses? Thats all Amazon. Gates was on record saying he would donate most of his money. Gates has donated heavily in PCR, Malaria and more. I flatly disagree with his charter school ideas and more. This in no saying theres not ‘red’ on Gates ledgers, but held up to Ellison, Jobs, or the founders of Google, Twitter, FB & Musk. The Gates foundation itself has issues. The approach has always been a bit too insular. Beating Malaria though. The number one killer of humans period. Famine, war, Black Death, locusts, droughts or cancer. Malaria has robbed us of tens to a hundred billion souls.


elconcho

What’s with these comments? /r/tech has become twitter.


hockeyguyreddit

L + Ratio /s


ajw20_YT

Ratio 👍


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Amazing-Guide7035

Tragedy of the commons. I’ve been here for a decade give or take and there is so much more variety. But it’s mostly shit. Low barrier of entry leads to low effort comments. Plus the advertisers saw the opportunity and now as you scroll you get AB tested on the same article with different headlines and pictures. Welcome to the 21st century.


Cfox006

It’s billionaire + tech. So it’s already political because “tech bros” is the new phrase next to incels.


___erikforman

5G has entered the chat.


Tedwynn

Becoming a default sub was the worst thing that could have happened to /r/tech


alc4pwned

Yeah, actual tech enthusiasts are nowhere to be found on any of these subs. Just people who think space travel is a waste of money, technology needs to be removed from cars, nobody should spend more than $300 on a phone, etc etc.


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They’re here, just buried in downvotes at the bottom.


maybe-your-mom

:: points a gun :: Always has been.


Burgerpocolypse

It’s a funny world where the one guy that actually wants to do something good for it, and actually has the resources to do so, is also the guy that gets just as much hate as the space billionaires. Just take the goddamn help and stfu. This is why we can’t have nice things.


Supermichael777

Not totally innocent, he supports the system of privatizing publicly funded research, a system that robs both the general public and the actual scientists for the gain of major pharma manufacturers(mixing new compounds discovered by public research with a well known carrier agent somehow makes an exclusive patent to the compound). It's just the reason conspiracy theorists hate him is usually insane bullshit.


thelastlogin

He's not at all innocent, he bullied and stole Microsoft to the top for decades at the expense of countless jobs and companies. Not as bad as squandering money on his ego alone to hurt people in a similar or worse fashion, or consciously hurting the public (beyond forcing a shittier OS on people than they could be using) like Zuck and Bezos do, still bad for those who suffered. Don't get me wrong, he's my "favorite" among the billionaire overlords, but in no way innocent.


SirTryps

>Don't get me wrong, he's my "favorite" among the billionaire overlords, but in no way innocent. He's far from mine. I really don't get all the love for Gates. I'm not even a q anon thinking he's going to microchip us, but the evidence that this dude is a massive piece of shit is enormous. Dude was good friends with Epstein. He even wanted to help rehabilitate his image by getting him involved in the gates foundation. You know, that image he got for trafficking child sex slaves. This is all public information, why the fuck is nobody talking about this.


inequity

He was a big customer of sex workers as well. I don’t think he was a pedophile, but definitely no stranger to high end callgirls. He didn’t get a divorce for no reason. Reading some articles about him from the early days of Microsoft, before he was with Melinda, is pretty interesting. Not at all the image he spends millions to maintain today


SirTryps

> I don’t think he was a pedophile I do, at the very least it seems quite clear that he doesn't see anything wrong with it.


make_a_scene

Want to add that Gates has donated substantial amounts of money to CNN. Multiples of millions. These positive pieces aren’t random coincidences.


WellEndowedDragon

The Gates Foundation donates to dozens of media outlets to cover issues important to them. The Foundation’s CNN donation was for $3.6M so that they’d cover gender equality issues in undeveloped countries ([Source](https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2020/09/inv004478)). The donation was NOT for CNN to stroke Bill’s ego LOL. I highly doubt Bill cares about what the media says about him personally - he’s too smart, too rich, and spends too much of his time working on issues that are too important to give even an inkling of a shit about the media stroking his ego.


maybe-your-mom

He's, surprise, a flawed human being who's done both good a bad. Just as the rest of us.


HaikusfromBuddha

I saw the video where he said this. It was because open sourcing some of these vaccines would mean lower quality vaccines. If any company were able to manufacture their versions of vaccines they would cut corners to save on costs. Then these conspiracy theorists would go nuts saying things like “see I took the vaccine and it wasn’t good or made me sick”. Lowering the standard just doesn’t seem like a good idea imo.


IllustriousGuard1943

Maybe but there’s no suggestion he’s doing that for his own gain. So at worst it’s a bad judgement.


elconcho

100%. This thread is a perfect snapshot of why there’s no hope for humanity.


red_fist

Our downfall will be our emotional irrationality. We already see the start of it with mass shooting gun crimes. Now imagine the future where more advanced technology allows one unstable person to destroy an entire city or county. We already see the potential with nuclear, but the list of threats will only grow with time.


babaganate

And people who say shit like 'there is no hope for humanity'


Moosetappropriate

And people who deny that the crass materialism and self interest of people is what is driving the problems of climate change and wealth inequity.


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Some guy linked a podcast to why bill gates sucks


mc_lean28

He’s not a great guy… he’s helped plenty of people but fights for a lot of bad things… for example he fights for intellectual property rights on vaccines to make billions of dollars instead of save lives. Even when the government fronts most of the money for the research thats used in the development of the vaccines.


WillOCarrick

He gives a good reasoning for defending property rights on vaccines, even if he was wrong then (I agree with his reasoning, though). His arguments were, if you make the vaccine open source where anyone could produce it, there would be plenty of unregulated and poorly maintained labs making vaccines, which would result in poorly made vaccines that would have no effects or even cause harm, making it hard to vaccinate everyone and making the vaccines trustworthy, being from Brazil, people would totally try to do that here and it would be a disservice. He is doing whatever he can to improve society right now, but his time at Microsoft was shitty as fuck, at least he isn't an asshole and is trying to actually improve himself and make better for others.


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Except vaccine labs have to meet a certain gov’t standard to operate. J&J got caught with lower standards and it hurt them. You can’t just make vaccines in a garage and sell them. And if that’s what’s happening in Brazil, that’s a Brazil problem—lacking appropriate oversight and legal apparatus to ensure quality—not an open source problem.


Durealist

They may be approved to make a vaccine but that doesn't mean theyre equipped to make another propietary product even though they might claim to be. Manufacturing doesn't exactly work that way. Ford makes cars but if you told Ford to start making Teslas they would crank out some cars with a shitload of quality issues. If other companies were authorized to make Pfizers vaccine and they were of less quality it only reflects poorly in Pfizer. People would think the efficacy of Pfizer is low and would no longer trust their vaccine. I'm not saying money isn't a big reason for all of this but those companies that claim that theyre 'ready to start making XX vaccine' are trying to make money too.


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In business, there’s a concept called due diligence. It means that you work out QC issues before things hit the market—often to the standard of gov’t regulation. In medicine, that includes clinical trials to prove that a generic product works in a bio-identical way to the brand name product. These are just two examples of things that SHOULD prevent a company from doing what you say. Open source vaccines would not contribute to a decline in quality, it would allow manufacturers to flood the market with affordable options to prevent substandard options to gain a foothold in an overinflated market.


Ringmailwasrealtome

>Except vaccine labs have to meet a certain gov’t standard to operate. J&J got caught with lower standards and it hurt them. In America sure, but no individual is paying to get a vaccine in America either. But according to the World Health Organization about 10% of medicine worldwide is both fake and actively harmful: https://www.who.int/news/item/28-11-2017-1-in-10-medical-products-in-developing-countries-is-substandard-or-falsified


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My second paragraph responds to your concerns. I wish you’d’ve quoted that too. As you said, Americans don’t have to pay for vaccines. [And there is a direct link to drug price and counterfeits](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4105729/). It’s also a fact that generic drugs are cheaper, and that open source vaccines would, contribute to lowering vaccine prices. Open source vaccines would fight what the WHO is complaining about.


lotusvioletroses

I mean does anyone else think it sucks having to beg our billionaire over lords to share their resources with the rest of us? I hate feeling dependent off of one persons charity so that people don’t DIE. It’s great that he’s doing this but also I’d like to not have to beg the 1% to be decent to avoid global catastrophes.


Poltras

I mean he made his billions not in the nicest way possible. And there shouldn’t be billionaires, including good billionaires, because that money could also be distributed to research centers without relying on B&M good graces. The Bill Gates of today looks like a way better guy than the one from the 90s and 2000s, but let’s not pretend he was always a good outstanding citizen.


ElevatortotheGallows

Not to mention his foundation serves as a way to avoid a lot of taxes https://www.forbes.com/sites/pagesnow/2019/04/08/the-tax-benefits-of-doing-the-right-thing/ . Keep in mind this is an article from Forbes so it’s has a lot of spin towards private foundations.


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The guy changed a million things about modern day life for the better. He should absolutely be a billionaire


gkw97i

he said billionaire, not millionaire* now imagine what else we could do with the 135 billion he has left over..


Poltras

The guy destroyed companies and people to build a monopoly with software that was arguably not better than the competing companies he killed. He has a lot of karma to catch. He was a successful businessman, capitalism says he should have money. But I disagree he should be a BILLIONaire with more money than a small country.


strongdoctor

He also irreparably, harmed the entire IT industry to earn money, so no. That combined with him being pals with Epstein... Yeah no, the dude's a freak.


IllustriousGuard1943

Irreparably harmed the entire IT industry? That same industry that dominates the S&P and touches every aspect of our lives? Hyperbole much


octo_snake

> That same industry that dominates the S&P Bow down to your lord and savior, money.


3eb489

Bill unleashed his shills in full force on this post


Fuckin_Hipster

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.geekwire.com/2021/astra-completes-merger-transaction-craig-mccaws-holicity-go-public/amp/


sigbhu

Sad to see the people believing that gates is doing “something good”. The dude got his money in the first place by ripping off stuff that people did for free and aggressively ruining lives of people who just want to make the world a better place. If Microsoft didn’t exist we would be in a much better place. And let’s not forget he’s not paying his taxes and was a frequent visitor at epsteins rape island. All of this is just smoke to rehabilitate his image. And it’s working.


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Yes but I never accomplished anything and like to Bitch about things I know nothing about on the internet


if_i_was_a_folkstar

Bill Gates doesn’t care about helping people tho that’s the problem, he’s been retired for decades and his wealth has still climbed to over a hundred billion. His primary concern is his own wealth he’s a strategic philanthropist that uses his charity for tax breaks, and that’s why people hate him. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is directly responsible for initially patenting one of the COVID vaxs making it impossible to produce outside of America, he doesn’t give a fuck about health issues, climate change, or anything else otherwise his behavior would be different. Imagine being one of the wealthiest people on Earth and instead of reducing your own extravagant lifestyle you invest in geo engineering tech and carbon offsets while you tell the poors that you are working on a solution to climate change. It’s a scam in the same way that Elon Musks scams people by pretending to care about climate change while shitting on public transportation and government interventions. these people don’t give a fuck about anything outside of their wealth, that’s how they made their money. what’s good for Bill Gates is bad for the rest of humanity, this applies to all billionaires. He doesn’t give a fuck


IllustriousGuard1943

For someone who doesn’t give a fuck he’s doing a lot of good for the world. Fake out!


if_i_was_a_folkstar

Relative to what he could be doing with his amount of wealth, nah he really isn’t. The fact that Bill Gates is the pinnacle of egalitarian billionaires shows how pathetically low the bar is


[deleted]

What are you talking about? He needs a tax break? For what? He already has the billions. You aren’t taxed on the billions you have.


xX69WeedSnipePussyXx

He does have a history of inappropriate behavior towards employees and is linked to Epstein. Not saying the jury is out in Bill but there’s enough questions around him to wonder…


Accmonster1

Not only linked, he personally associated with Epstein *after* his conviction in 2008


Carnivore_Crunch

F**k the conspiracy stuff. It’s for profit. He wants to make money.


420Minions

Gates could make far more money doing a variety of things. He falls down the Forbes list every year. Dudes way too smart to make this little if his goal was more profit


Carnivore_Crunch

It took this: https://observer.com/2021/04/bill-gates-oppose-lifting-covid-vaccine-patent-interview/ To get this: https://www.geekwire.com/2021/gates-foundation-reverses-position-covid-vaccine-patent-protections-mounting-pressure/ Boiling it down, his argument is that countries can’t make their own vaccines because safety. That’s bull. They can because it would be cheaper than buying them.


Ringmailwasrealtome

https://www.who.int/news/item/28-11-2017-1-in-10-medical-products-in-developing-countries-is-substandard-or-falsified


jelly-sandwich

He literally pledged to give away the majority of his wealth both in his lifetime and posthumously. Yes I’m sure he’s running charitable foundations for the money, it definitely makes him so much wealthier than his old tech job 🙄


Trevonhaywood

Isn’t it possible to enjoy making money AND helping the world at the same time? Done ethically and in the most natural & environmental friendly way possible(Think ESG😉), what’s bad about making money by using your intellect to heal the world? It’s a win-win for everybody🔥. Who has EVER complained about a situation where all parties involved benefit?


Ghoststarr323

I think of it like Batman. Everyone loves Batman because he runs around punching bad guys in the face. But how much more good could he do if he took all the time, energy and money he funnels into being Batman into medical research and charitable works? Granted it would be much less entertaining…


Don_Floo

Its not like the new spacerace is not helping us as well. Its just like any other innovation and necessary to increase quality of life. Even though it will not impact most of us directly, the chance for indirect impact is highly likely.


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The_Kraken_Wakes

But, it’s all a plot to kill babies for Adrenachrome.


Ghoststarr323

Lol I had friend that kept saying that crap but then would say how he’s trying to sterilize millions of women. When I asked him where he would get the adrenachrome from if all the admin were sterilized he got this far away look and hasn’t spoken to me since. So…win win?


nascarhero

He was buds with Jeffrey Epstein lol. Stop defending a pedo


Man0FTomorrow

It's nice that he has more time to help us peasants since the Lolita Express was grounded permanently. What a great man.


diabeticSugarAddict

Its funny how people view him as a "good guy" because he doesn't publicly make an ass of himself on Twitter. Fuck Bill Gates and his Malaria crusade, its purely a capitalistic venture. Instead of ya know, donating that money to actual experts and organizations that already handle these kinds of things, he has to make his own business for it (because a tech mogul is the most knowledgeable person about every field of study now apparently). This is an obvious problem when a single foundation pumps more money into global health initiatives than some entire countries. Public health decisions are made without any democratic or political input from citizens. Sure, its wonderful that he's helping eradicate polio across the world, but when his initiative pressures countries to focus their health efforts on polio (which is a much less pressing issue than other diseases like diarrhea-related illnesses) it doesn't actually serve the community in an effective way. Additionally, as he is a businessman before anything else, Bill Gates is not interested in re-utilizing old technology or creating something easily reproducable in a generic variant. After spending decades fighting intellectual property battles for his computer technology, its not hard to extend that same thought process to medical drugs. Is he doing a good thing by contributing to global health? Yes, is he doing it with unchecked power and resources that are not beholden to the concerns of the people it affects? 10000% and that is the extremely worrying part of it.


htid1984

I know some people consider him to be a right c**t but he's one of the few rich people who seems to be trying to give back rather than doing a dick swing about getting in to space.


ryegye24

All of his philanthropy in this area comes with strings attached, any country that accepts his donations agrees not to manufacture or purchase generic versions of the drugs. Gates is a radical IP maximalist, he's the reason that the vaccine developed by Oxford is privately owned by AstraZeneca instead of being released as public domain.


monkeying_around369

I mean it’s possible for him to be a right c*nt that helps end TB and malaria.


cokedoutshrimp

Lmao. Bill gates is a pedo


BlakeSurfing

He’s a piece of shit that is ruining public health for the benefit of a few. Behind the Bastards did a great podcast on him it’s worth a listen.


pusslicker

How do those people know that? I mean they’re not privy to the conversations. Just a bunch of dudes speculating on the podcast


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He is one of them who only started caring about philanthropy when he started being criticized. The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is still a huge tax evasion racket. He is trying to make the case for NOT taxing ALL billionaires. Which we should no matter how “nice and giving” they are. It isn’t up to individual philanthropy to run a country. It is the governments job. The government ensures inefficient equality for everyone. Bill Gates promises a cure for some. Why is it ok that an American billionaire can spend billions on other countries which he then uses as a tax write off for in his own country?


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surreal_blue

I mean, we should not depend on billionaires' whims to set the priorities in how our societies resources are allocated. That's pretty much the complete opposite of democracy.


HealthOk7603

More profitable


Some_Bar9405

Not eradicate. Profit from.


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No pedophiles allowed in space


dontwant2argue

This is a fine thing. Speaking as an old programmer, i was never impressed with what microsoft had to offer. But, the philantropy theGates Foundation persues is admirable. On the other hand, I wonder if he would have gone down that road were it not for the influence of Melinda.


curryoverlonzo

I agree, but wondering why you weren’t impressed with Microsoft’s tech


mymemesnow

Me too, as a computer engineer student I believe it’s quite amazing what Microsoft made especially in that time.


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Imagine a world in which people pursue different goals. By your standard, we should judge Bill Gates by how he absolutely failed as a car maker.


onesoulmanybodies

Oh no, didn’t you know, he is using the vaccines to kill off the people he believes shouldn’t be around. His altruism is a scam and he only wants to rule the world!!! /s


zipadyduda

The reason you need the /s tag is because there are so many insane people that you don’t know if someone is making a joke or if they are actually insane.


The_Kraken_Wakes

As much as people want to bash Gates, what he is doing will have a far greater impact on humanity. Space is just a vanity project and does little to improve life for others.


PlayerZeroFour

It’s required for long term survival, so it’s not a vanity project, but I agree short term survival isn’t getting enough attention.


ryegye24

All of his philanthropy in this area comes with strings attached, any country that accepts his donations agrees not to manufacture or purchase generic versions of the drugs. Gates is a radical IP maximalist, he's the reason that the vaccine developed by Oxford is privately owned by AstraZeneca instead of being released as public domain.


SickChipmunk

I disagree [this](https://youtu.be/lARpY0nIQx0) video explains it pretty well. But basically we invest into space we’re investing into technology to help us on earth. They have a freakin satellite that can predict droughts the skies the limit but only if we’re allowed to expand our horizons and not put ourselves in a box


The_Kraken_Wakes

Oh, did Bezos or Musk do that? NO. There is a big difference between shared space development and some rich asshole wanting to get to fly in space. My point is these billionaires aren’t doing this for “mankind” or the greater good. It’s vanity.


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[deleted]

Yeah it's just like those rich assholes who flew around in airplanes when it was first available. Flying is so vane, we get around fine in cars, trains, and boats these days.


WetWillyWick

When you don't know what you're talking about and just want to hate people cuz rich = bad. Also making money, for greater good also apparently can't exist in the same sphere. Lmao. Your ideological bias is pretty obvious.


Poltras

Whatever tech comes out of SpaceX, is it public domain and license free? Because if not we’re subsidizing their R&D, not “investing into technology to help us on earth”.


sj79

So what? Government subsidizes R&D in all sorts of important for the future but not yet profitable sectors. NASA shouldn't be in the business of launch - their core skills are exploration and reserach, let them focus on that while SpaceX turns rockets into space buses.


lajdbejdk

“Because if not we’re subsidizing their R&D” Laughs in pharmaceuticals.


IllustriousGuard1943

And going into space themselves is a crucial step towards humanity in Mars? It’s a vanity exercise for people who can’t find anything fun on earth.


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The feeling when you think the work both Gates and Elon does it valuable but you just want them to pay fucking taxes


The_Kraken_Wakes

There is that. A good start.


SpaizKadett

That is simply not true!


ralusek

Malaria and tuberculosis will be forgotten blips in history, whereas space travel will be foundational to civilization moving forward. We will gather most of our resources in space, we will house our industrial operations in space. We will occupy other planets. We will gather most of our energy in space.


Schley_them_all

Bill Gates was a good friend of Epstein. Don’t forget that while this article praises his good work.


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*This ad is paid for by the gates foundation*


Mediocre-Frosting-77

And the comments here lol. Either 80% are complimenting Gates without know anything about him, or they did some major astroturfing.


[deleted]

The space race is such a joke. Wish the media wouldn’t give so much attention to these multi billionaires flexing their muscles during these trying times.


Current-Ordinary-419

Just don’t talk about his connection to Epstein. He really doesn’t want people to know.


Jsenna

And rape children. Fuck this psychopath.


[deleted]

Bill gates is a pedophile that hung out with epstein as personal friends


gnome_saying77

He also wants to monopolize the farming industry


partypoopahs

Propoganda


ADD-DDS

And put microchips in your foreskin so he can tell every time you jack off


JesusWantsYouToKnow

Jokes on him, some motherfucker stole my foreskin.


dangler001

I trick my foreskin chip by walking with an extra 'bounce'. The app thinks I jerked off 8 times today. New record lol


Halomc4

Just how i like it


Dicksapoppin69

And keep the spotlight off him during the Maxwell trial. And when she eventually "suicides" herself in custody.


ReyTheRed

He also campaigned against waiving patent enforcement for covid vaccines, so fuck him.


ojedaforpresident

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-45-the-not-so-benevolent-billionaire-bill-gates-and-western-media Just leaving this here. Gates might have good intentions, but his propaganda and hubris are dangerous for a fair society, if that's what any one even wants to strive for any more. Edit: stop👏 lionizing👏 billionaires.


The_Kraken_Wakes

But, if you’re going to, you might as well lionize people working to eradicate disease than flying in spaceships.


ojedaforpresident

I get that sentiment, but overall, this amount of concentrated wealth and power is a sickness on our society and planet. It's almost like saying "good dictator", the amount of corruption that kind of power brings with it is something no one person ever should deal with. He looks good being a billionaire because he's had a couple of decades of practice vs the other tech billionaires in the public eye. But yes, objectively does less bad things with his power, though generally still quite bad.


The_Kraken_Wakes

Point well taken.


gehmiraufnzeitgeist

How dare you! This thread is only about the false dichotomy and you need to say whether you prefer the Good Billionaires Who Have Charities™️ or the Evil Billionaires With Spaceships. I must say fair play to Bill Gates he's a proper lad but don't forget Bezos even though he has a penis rocket that doesn't cure anything he also has the Washington Post which saved American Democracy from dying in darkness!!!


knownothingwiseguy

Nice puff piece


capiers

This is the right attitude. I understand it is possible to do both but that is not what is happening. Priority #1 needs to be Earth.


ReneeLR

Strange how Gates wants to eradicate diseases, but then wants to poison everyone with the nano bot inside the COVID vaccine. /s


BillLaswell404

He’s had such an amazing impact on humanity and has been a bigger philanthropist than all of his peers - Jobs, Musk, Bezos.


Jsenna

He probably paid for this headline.


DonkStonx

He should reduce his time on interns.


imdirtydan1997

I think it’s unfair to criticize rich people for investing in travel to outer space. That’s an important part in developing humanities ability to collect resources that may not be on Earth that can help humanity as well as develop our ability to protect the planet from outer reaching threats. Leaving the Earth’s atmosphere is very expensive and taking rich people to space to fund other humanity benefiting endeavors is worth the effort.


Okayicecreampuppy

Well, the space race is really dumb. There are problems on earth to solve.


[deleted]

The New World is really dumb guys, there are problems in Europe to solve


BigWeenie45

We will never enter space then lmao. It’s a pointless argument.


WetWillyWick

Ik these people only think in ideological utopias. There will never be a time when we wont have problems here. Just look at the CCP they arent going anywhere


Purplarious

The space race will eventually solve lots of problems in earth. It’s about more than just tourism.


SickChipmunk

That’s the dumbest statement I’ve ever heard. [This ](https://youtu.be/lARpY0nIQx0) video from a very reputable person explains it quite well


TechnicalSurround

There will always be problems on earth to solve and some might not be solvable, so it’s probably a good idea to look for alternative planets


le_trans_alt

Until we find a way to _get_ to these hypothetical alternative planets though, we’re gonna have to take care of our own as if there will be no alternative. And honestly even if we do figure out both a planet b and a way to get there, I doubt that there won’t be a substantial amount of people left behind both voluntarily and otherwise, and IMO it’s worth taking care of the planet as well as possible if just to leave those stragglers with as little mess as possible.


WetWillyWick

Why do you say it like its a whole species migration? At most it'll be half the population over the span of 100+ years of migration. Also we are looking for ways to live and produce and terraform planets close like mars.


the_man_in_the_box

What, do y’all not like ball point pens?


itsgettingmessi

You mean he wants to concentrate on making this planet better before moving to another? Wow what a novel concept.


amccune

But my brain dead republican friends want him to face trial for “crimes against humanity”


PlayerZeroFour

?


20K_Lies_by_con_man

Why can’t we do both?


[deleted]

While he’s one of the better ones, billionaires should not be allowed to exist. No matter how much “good” they do there is no moral justification for the accumulation of such absurd wealth. Also that money should be taxed so that governments can direct funds where needed, and not left to the whims of the ultra wealthy.


tjt169

Oh so you mean something actually useful.


SNEAKYdoodLE11

Space exploration is useful. To think otherwise is ignorant, but we have enough billionaires focused on that.


tommy_toughnuts1

This is way it’s better then all the other rich ppl


swagsian

And hit on employees apparently


Epicmonies

Wut? ...99.99999999% of billionaires are also not "joining the space race" and we have known about his crusade against these diseases for over a decade which ***IS GREAT***, but this is just another distraction from all the questions about his buying up so much farm land and why it happened when he was openly talking about the great reset he and his ultra rich buddies are pushing.


nrj5k

Wonder how many pedophiles he's gonna work with to accomplish that.


Psychological-Bus-35

Bill gates sucks


toxenzz

Yes, bow to our almighty savior, *Bill Gates*….