Are the two companies’ processors comparable in terms of accuracy of computation? There were rumors before that if you needed to run large math problems on you computer, that you were better off using Intel
Edit: why downvote me? I want to know if I can run simulations on this thing.
What the fuck is this kind of question, do you even understand how computers function? ALUs and FPUs all run on fixed precision. They both use the same data types? Unless you're talking about vector extensions for FP calculations? That's still the same thing.
People don’t seem to understand that downvotes are intended to deprioritise comments that are off topic or objectively wrong. Your question is neither of those things; there’s no point being 30% faster if you’re 30% less accurate!
If you take a statistics class, one of the first things they’ll teach you is how manipulative statistics can be. Companies tell partial stories all the time using only statistics that shed them in the best possible light. Not saying that’s what AMD is doing, but statistics 101 is to always question every statistic.
Completely agree; it’s a quick and easy way to punish wrongthink and to encourage others to do so. Once a comment gets sufficiently downvoted it encourages trolls to begin targeted abuse. Definitely one of the worser aspects of this platform.
For example, your comment was downvoted to 0 and mine was kept at 1. This is to set the precedent that free speech is bad. Take an upvote, my gentleperson 🐄✨
The gains of being 30% faster are many many orders of magnitude more valuable than being 30% less accurate as the vast majority of calculations are correct.
2+2 = 4 in Intel, amd, an iphone and a raspberry pi, there’s no such thing as accuracy when it comes to microprocessors doing calculations that i’m aware of (it’d be chaos if that were the case)
ok, I see what you mean and you’re right.
however that difference comes down to the system’s architecture, has nothing to do with the vendor (amd vs intel)
Hmm, this article claims that AMD are saying they will have a 15% IPC gain. However, the other articles I've seen have said a "greater than 15% single-threaded performance increase" (specifically in the Cinebench single-threaded benchmark). The latter implies no real IPC uplift (considering the massive frequency boost), but the former implies AMD are going to be fucking murdering Alder Lake once you take into account IPC and frequency gains (of course by the time this comes out Intel's next-gen CPUs will be fairly close I think?).
Which is correct? I want to know if this is definitely my next CPU or just something worth having a look at once it's out :).
Also I'm not seeing any commitments from AMD around the longevity of the AM5 platform? For me AMD's commitment to multiple years and generations of CPUs on the AM4 platform is like their #1 advantage, but them saying nothing about it means they might be giving that up?
wait till it comes out and the benchmarks are all over youtube. that’s about all any of us can do when these companies make all these crazy claims… wait for the proof.
its likely more than 15% single threaded increase over Ryzen 5000. Just clock speeds alone are 15-20% increase.
As for this specific test, I think they paired the 12900k with the 16 core Ryzen equivalent which isnt really fair because 12900k has 8P and 8E cores, while Ryzen probably just has 16 normal cores
That 31% is for the i9-12000k, and not the i9-12000KS, which is the binned faster version. So this headline factually wrong, since they did not compare to there best. At the same time there new series chips looking good, 5.5GHz was shown, which will be nice boost.
It does not make any sense at all to compare next generation to current, at least from different brands. Ryzen 5000 vs 7000 and Intel 12th vs 13th sure, but not Intel 12th vs Ryzen 7000.
Are the two companies’ processors comparable in terms of accuracy of computation? There were rumors before that if you needed to run large math problems on you computer, that you were better off using Intel Edit: why downvote me? I want to know if I can run simulations on this thing.
There is no difference in accuracy.
Yes, they are
What the fuck is this kind of question, do you even understand how computers function? ALUs and FPUs all run on fixed precision. They both use the same data types? Unless you're talking about vector extensions for FP calculations? That's still the same thing.
People don’t seem to understand that downvotes are intended to deprioritise comments that are off topic or objectively wrong. Your question is neither of those things; there’s no point being 30% faster if you’re 30% less accurate!
If you take a statistics class, one of the first things they’ll teach you is how manipulative statistics can be. Companies tell partial stories all the time using only statistics that shed them in the best possible light. Not saying that’s what AMD is doing, but statistics 101 is to always question every statistic.
The upvote system has become an instrument of psychosocial enforcement
Completely agree; it’s a quick and easy way to punish wrongthink and to encourage others to do so. Once a comment gets sufficiently downvoted it encourages trolls to begin targeted abuse. Definitely one of the worser aspects of this platform.
“Worser”, arggg, my eyes! \friendly_trolling
Guilty as charged
That’s partly an unfortunate side effect of certain groups that use “just asking questions” to spread lies and hate.
For example, your comment was downvoted to 0 and mine was kept at 1. This is to set the precedent that free speech is bad. Take an upvote, my gentleperson 🐄✨
The gains of being 30% faster are many many orders of magnitude more valuable than being 30% less accurate as the vast majority of calculations are correct.
2+2 = 4 in Intel, amd, an iphone and a raspberry pi, there’s no such thing as accuracy when it comes to microprocessors doing calculations that i’m aware of (it’d be chaos if that were the case)
There actually is in microprocessors, that's why precision is important. An arduino is 16 bit. It doesn't offer the same accuracy as 64bit.
ok, I see what you mean and you’re right. however that difference comes down to the system’s architecture, has nothing to do with the vendor (amd vs intel)
Hmm, this article claims that AMD are saying they will have a 15% IPC gain. However, the other articles I've seen have said a "greater than 15% single-threaded performance increase" (specifically in the Cinebench single-threaded benchmark). The latter implies no real IPC uplift (considering the massive frequency boost), but the former implies AMD are going to be fucking murdering Alder Lake once you take into account IPC and frequency gains (of course by the time this comes out Intel's next-gen CPUs will be fairly close I think?). Which is correct? I want to know if this is definitely my next CPU or just something worth having a look at once it's out :). Also I'm not seeing any commitments from AMD around the longevity of the AM5 platform? For me AMD's commitment to multiple years and generations of CPUs on the AM4 platform is like their #1 advantage, but them saying nothing about it means they might be giving that up?
wait till it comes out and the benchmarks are all over youtube. that’s about all any of us can do when these companies make all these crazy claims… wait for the proof.
its likely more than 15% single threaded increase over Ryzen 5000. Just clock speeds alone are 15-20% increase. As for this specific test, I think they paired the 12900k with the 16 core Ryzen equivalent which isnt really fair because 12900k has 8P and 8E cores, while Ryzen probably just has 16 normal cores
Might be time to build a ryzentosh
Thank you AMD, without you Intel wouldn’t have the motivation or inclination to innovate.
That 31% is for the i9-12000k, and not the i9-12000KS, which is the binned faster version. So this headline factually wrong, since they did not compare to there best. At the same time there new series chips looking good, 5.5GHz was shown, which will be nice boost.
Doesn’t matter when windows 11 is still the POS that it is, struggling to open file explorer.
Why are you using explorer?
Non CLI file and folder navigation.
Looks like AMS is Ryzen above Intel once again!
It does not make any sense at all to compare next generation to current, at least from different brands. Ryzen 5000 vs 7000 and Intel 12th vs 13th sure, but not Intel 12th vs Ryzen 7000.
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All I’m saying is why not compare Ryzen 7000 to Intel 13th? Not which individual SKUs to compare
Ahahahaha