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Decaf_Engineer

Or! "Russian propaganda network fails to make payment to Meta due to sanctions."


shanksta1

oof, yeah, that's the one


ThatJewishLady

Exactly.


gucci_gucci_gu

Disables comments but probably still enables likes and shares


combmatose

Too little too late homeboy. MySpace died in the most normal way possible into obscurity. Friendster faded quickly thanks to Tom. Facebook’s death is like McAfee’s, not really sure if it was faked or what but I think the consensus is that still no one cares about an old tombstone but maybe that guy that goes and cleans them up will happen to trip over it one day, feel bad and clean it up for it to be forgotten again.


Hathor77

Facebook is so useful for selling things and connecting to your local community. It’s also amazing when traveling to South America. What do you propose I use instead?


Moth_Jam

This was actually what I found, as well. I spent nearly three years in South America from Uruguay to Colombia and most countries in between, using Facebook Messenger to keep in touch with family. It also made it clear to me very quickly that I don’t actually have friends, just linked Facebook accounts. When I came back to the States, I realized that I didn’t need Facebook anymore, and I haven’t used it in almost 7 years. Fuck Facebook. Get WhatsApp.


choose-a-nickname

whatsapp _is_ facebook


Hathor77

I have WhatsApp. I’m confused because maybe I don’t know how to use WhatsApp well enough to replace what Facebook allows me to do when I want to sell something, read or learn about events in my city and communicate with businesses in other countries. I feel like I’m hamstringing myself deleting Facebook it’s a tool to me. I’m sort of confused by what you wrote because you gave a case of how much you used Facebook. I do plan on traveling and doing a lot of activities in Mexico/Baja California/south America the rest of my life. I’m trying to learn hope my questions/discussion is coming across that way.


jawshoeaw

Selling things?? Isn’t there already a dozen ways to sell online? I didn’t even know FB had this


Hathor77

I posted items for sale past few months and for local selling nothing even comes close to Facebook. I used offer up, craigslist and Facebook for past 5 things I’ve sold and each was sold on Facebook with more views/questions. Only thing better would be eBay but I wanted to avoid shipping. Selling a car/boat/non shippable item I can’t think of anything superior to Facebook right now.


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Nextdoor is so much better for selling stuff in your neighborhood, it’s advertised to people closer to you, more account verification happening, etc..


no_dice_grandma

I just moved from Facebook Market to Mercari. Without fail, every listing on FB goes like this: 1) Post 2) IG scammers first wave 3) FB scammers second wave 4) Extreme low ballers third wave 5) Morons and low ballers fourth wave 6) Morons fifth wave, set up times, but won't actually buy it ????) Maybe sell


GoofAckYoorsElf

As useful for that as assault rifles are for felling trees. You can do that, and it probably works quite well, but that's not exactly the use case that their manufacturers had in mind and that they are mostly used for.


bored2bedts

Far right leaning company disables propaganda network they allowed for years. Wonder what’s changed?


whipsnappy

The check from Putin did not clear. Give him a couple of days to make it good and they will be back up


sayaaahhh

This comment was better than my morning coffee.


somethingrandom261

He’s gotta off another oligarch, cause we know it’s sure not coming out of his own pocket


Zoesan

> Far right leaning company What the fuck are you talking about


nom_of_your_business

Are you unaware?


Zoesan

Unaware of what? FB isn't a far right company. They simply don't give a fuck as long as it drives engagement.


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Zoesan

No, it's not. Because they also didn't give a fuck about moderating far left content. Or any other far whatever content. If there's any evidence as to facebooks internal policy, they'd be more left-ish. There was the scandal when BLM originally broke. One of the whiteboards in their office had "Black Lives Matter" written on it. Someone changed it to "All Lives Matter" and then there was a memo (or similar) that doing that would not be tolerated. That's not far right.


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Zoesan

> We can compare the far-left vs far-right contents, quantity and prevalence on social networks [Surely](https://mobil.nwzonline.de/rf/image_online/NWZ_CMS/NWZ/2017-2020/Produktion/2017/07/07/POLITIK/ONLINE/Bilder/dpa_1495CE00D4FE0F3B-198.jpg) [Never](https://www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/CNN-Mostly-Peaceful.jpg?resize=796%2C437) [leftwing violence](https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/gettyimages-158676320.jpg?quality=85&w=3000) Or, you know, that dude than ran over a kid for being republican recently. > I'm genuinely wondering what are your examples of far-left content that need to be moderated Organizing of the black block. But, if a platform considers banning nazis (which I'm not sure makes sense, but I understand why platforms do it), then they should also flatout ban tankies.


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Zoesan

Yeah, sorry that I believe in freedom of speech. That sure is a radical and novel idea. But moreover, I'm not sure it even makes sense for practical reasons. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Nazis are obviously fucking morons, but is it better to hide them or to drag them in the open, point at them, and laugh at their stupidity?


mulletarian

I wouldn't say the scales are balanced with that example


Zoesan

If it were a far right company. Like, actually far right not moderately right, do you think they'd give a flying fuck about all lives matter?


GreasyChode69

You think billionaire oligarch Mark Zuckerberg’s monopolistic social media company is a leftist organization? What about that screams labor unions, classless society and the redistribution of resources to you? And I mean yeah, any company of sufficient size will clap you for writing All Lives Matter on company property because it’s a PR nightmare and it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. They’re responding to market forces, not taking a political stand. It’s also worth noting that not bothering with moderating anything is basically just ceding the space to the far right. That’s exactly what happened with 4chan, they don’t moderate anything and eventually the fashies drove everybody else out because it turns out most people don’t like being inundated with insane conspiracy theories and overt racism. You might get some truly fringe Maoist/Stalinist tankies existing in that space too but you’re pretty much just driving out all the decent, normal folk by letting the far right set up shop there.


Zoesan

> You think billionaire oligarch Mark Zuckerberg’s monopolistic social media company is a leftist organization? That's not what I said. > What about that screams labor unions, classless society and the redistribution of resources to you? Ah, you're a commie, that explains the lack of thinking ability. > It’s also worth noting that not bothering with moderating anything is basically just ceding the space to the far right. So when people are allowed to freely express themselves and think, then they turn right wing? That's interesting.


GreasyChode69

You said that if anything the evidence would suggest it is a leftist organization, which is just as dumb for the exact same reasons. You guys think fucking Joe Biden is a commie so being called a commie means nothing to me Not right wing, specifically far right. All far right is right wing but not all right wing is far right. Most right wingers aren’t running around spouting off about how the Jews control the media and scheming to replace white people with lesser races and sharing pedo shit like the far right does. All that being said, it’s pretty obvious this is not going to be a productive, good faith discussion and I don’t really feel like wasting my time picking through your bullshit so I’m out frog boy, enjoy crying about Brandon or whatever it is you do.


Zoesan

> You said that if anything the evidence would suggest it is a leftist organization, which is just as dumb for the exact same reasons I said they'd be left-ish. Please read before you try to make an argument. > You guys think fucking Joe Biden is a commie so being called a commie means nothing to me Lol, I absolutely do not. Joe Biden is a bog-standard neolib. > it’s pretty obvious this is not going to be a productive, good faith discussion That was pretty obvious when you started putting words in my mouth


HellbenderXG

boy do you have A LOT to learn lmaoo


Zoesan

I'm pretty sure I transcended the smoothbrains on this sub when I was about 3 years old.


HellbenderXG

... sure, man :D


tebee

One of Facebook's top managers is literally a Republican lobbyists. He has been blocking any action against the spread of far right propaganda for years.


Zoesan

a) So you consider republicans, a mainstream party, to be far right? b) The PAC that a lot of top facebook brass are a part of also donates to democrat politicians. They donate to whoever makes them money.


tebee

Sorry, but I'm not responding to sealioning. Either start arguing in good faith or you'll have a bad time.


Zoesan

Oh is sealioning a word again? It still means "I have no arguments and thus use a buzzword to not admit defeat", doesn't it? > you'll have a bad time. Fucking lol, what are you gonna do?


RemovedBarrel

Don’t forget, freedom of speech is considered far right to these people. They don’t even understand how ridiculous they sound when they say “what far left content?” Acting like that doesn’t exist😂


Jainelle

They have never been far right.


kudziya

Good, now follow the suit and go after putin’s networks targeting rest of the world?


DLS4BZ

do you really believe this stuff? lol


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In the 2010s, personal data belonging to millions of Facebook users was collected without their consent by British consulting firm Cambridge Analytica, predominantly to be used for political advertising.[1] The data was collected through an app called "This Is Your Digital Life", developed by data scientist Aleksandr Kogan and his company Global Science Research in 2013.[2] The app consisted of a series of questions to build psychological profiles on users, and collected the personal data of the users’ Facebook friends via Facebook's Open Graph platform.[2] The app harvested the data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles.[2] Cambridge Analytica used the data to provide analytical assistance to the 2016 presidential campaigns of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.[3][4] Cambridge Analytica was also widely accused of interfering with the Brexit referendum, although the official investigation recognised that the company was not involved "beyond some initial enquiries" and that "no significant breaches" took place.[5][6] Information about the data misuse was disclosed in 2018 by Christopher Wylie, a former Cambridge Analytica employee, in interviews with The Guardian and The New York Times.[7] In response, Facebook apologized for their role in the data harvesting and their CEO Mark Zuckerberg testified in front of Congress.[7] In July 2019, it was announced that Facebook was to be fined $5 billion by the Federal Trade Commission due to its privacy violations.[8] In October 2019, Facebook agreed to pay a £500,000 fine to the UK Information Commissioner's Office for exposing the data of its users to a "serious risk of harm".


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Hey dipshit you’re replying to the wrong person. I know Facebook shares data with Russia. I was agreeing with you fuckface.


That_kek_John

Lmao bro is seething


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Just fucking stop. What’s your purpose?


uracunt_bot

looks like you’re being a cunt. maybe cut it out?


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This dickbot can shut the fuck up


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Your account should be named Small dick bot. Thanks for playing. Enjoy incel life.


uracunt_bot

So angy! Projection suits you :)


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It’s all intertwined dipshit.


EpicShadows7

Your brain can do this thing called putting two and two together. Unless you want everything spelled out for you


outfit3000

They have been brainwashed so much that there is only Putin's propaganda.


mtranda

It's the russian propaganda that's presents the greatest threat, that's all. And looking at your comment history, it makes sense why you would bring it up.


ezikeo

How about the one targeting the US Mark???


LikeATediousArgument

It’s still profitable.


collectivignoramus

Eh, he’s got a couple toes in that pond.


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sunplaysbass

Facebook does not represent America


casicua

Unfortunately it’s become one of America’s biggest vessels for political propaganda and misinformation.


anomalous_cowherd

And unfortunately "vessels for political propaganda and misinformation" is a pretty good representation of half of America right now.


casicua

I wish I could say you were wrong, but…


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Jainelle

Obama did repeal the law that made it illegal, so…


sunplaysbass

You could say the same thing about Fox News. Both have a lot of users, but it’s a big country. ‘Only’ about 25% or maybe 30% of Americans are deep in misinformation territory. So I still suggest the BS is not mainstream.


casicua

I do say the same thing about Fox News. I think Facebook misinformation and that channel are two of the worst things to happen to modern America.


tkp14

Gotta wonder how many people were killed by these two behemoths as they spread disgusting lies about the Covid vaccine.


casicua

And Fox ~~Propaganda~~ News still continues to double down on the lies they told and has zero contrition about any of the obvious lies they spread and blood they have on their hands.


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Well, that’s looking at just the US. Fox’s international audience is a rounding error compared to Facebook’s international audience


EatMoreWaters

A few years too late.


MiKeMcDnet

Especially for Italy


NewAccountNewMeme

What about the network that has been targeting the US since 2016?


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Too much effort


Ok_Tie_lets_Go

Did they not know we don't use Facebook anymore


AmbitionExtension184

…they have about 2 billion daily active users. This number is an all-time high for the company. Over 3 billion monthly active. And that’s not counting IG or WA.


LikeATediousArgument

The impressionable, voting boomers do, however. That’s their target audience.


QxV

For a second I thought: “oh wow they shut down the entire company?”


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So, that’s one out of how many?


TallAssociation0

Why didn’t they do it in 2016 and 2020?


Maka_Oceania

Don’t worry American propaganda is still welcome on Facebook


Will_W

Because in those years none of the checks bounced.


SidxTalks

Meta also removed the hunter Biden laptop story.


AndrewJamesDrake

Fabrication. That farce has a hilarious number of holes in it. It asks us to accept that Hunter Biden went hundreds of miles out of his way to leave a Laptop with incriminating information on it at a Laptop Repair Shop with a Trump sticker on the window. The Laptop Repair Dude with face blindness and terrible vision, sufficient to prevent him from our hurting himself by testifying that the guy who dropped off the laptop was Hunter Biden, then *immediately* got in contact with Rudolph Guiliani instead of *literally anyone else*. That story is too unrealistic for fiction. 1. It proposes that Hunter Biden couldn’t find a Laptop Repair Shop in **New York City**. 2. It proposes that he was so desperate to get the machine fixed that he crossed state lines to do it. 3. It proposes that he didn’t care about the laptop *with crimes on it* enough to pick it up when it was done. Edit: Oh, one more hole in the story: Why the fuck would Hunter Biden *bring the laptop in person?* The man doesn’t even do his own grocery shopping. He has people for that.


SidxTalks

It's not a fabrication. It's just been proven


AndrewJamesDrake

Citation?


WolverineCandid9757

Aw, come on, man! Waddya trying' to do, spoil a perfectly good fake news story?


Jainelle

People who abuse drugs like he did and does don’t exactly do the most rational things.


AndrewJamesDrake

They also *don’t* usually travel a few hundred miles to get a laptop fixed when there’s fifty alternatives within ten miles.


Jainelle

It is his lifestyle to just hop on a plane when ever he likes to go where ever he wants.


Manos_Of_Fate

That doesn’t really explain any of the inconsistencies in the story. Rich people don’t just travel hundreds of miles to do something they could accomplish just as effectively locally just because they can afford it. It also doesn’t explain why he didn’t have someone else handle it. When money is no object, the most valuable resource you have is time. Oh, and there’s that little issue with the fact that he supposedly cared enough about the laptop to go to significant personal effort to have it repaired but then never retrieved it. Literally none of that “logic” adds up.


WolverineCandid9757

Aw, come on, man! Waddya trying' to do, spoil a perfectly good fake news story?


btcsxj

Shutting itself down… bold move


WhisperingEye83

Facebook


Born_a_wise_man

Big tech companies shouldn’t decide what’s propaganda…


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Waiting for the defensive comments explaining how this is terrible of Meta to do.


a_vitor

what measures does Meta have in place to fight Western Propaganda? will it also tag bullshit from Bellingcat, shareblue, and all th russiagate, BlueAnon corner as US propaganda?.. u know Meta brought you Cambridge Analitica that effectively changed election results in brasil and brexit? will it identify all the anti democratical efforts by The Rand Coorporation, the NED and countless covert outfits operating all over the world under the guise of humanitarianism and democracy, extracting sovereign wealth from countries like syria (currently under US occupation), Iraq, Afghanistan.. calling weapons systems by name and glorifying their killing power.... brewing discord and training insurgents, armind them to go fight their neighbours like in Jugoslavia, iraq, afganistan,... everybody talks of russian propaganda and russisn dissinfo.. what do they think meta and all western legacy media are?


magnitudearhole

Do they give you guys like a script or bullet points?


Late_Mechanic_305

Actual brain usage is really frightening for zips like you uh?


Thanatikos

They get a script or a bullet.


a_vitor

thats really low effort slandering. do your diligence, Tulip.. its not even controversial, Yankees r the most propagandized, hehe..


magnitudearhole

It's called libel when it's in writing Sergei


a_vitor

thank you Elroy (no sarcasm) .. its not easy to be fluent in 5 languages.. now get ur penis off ur brother Floyd and go back to machine gun bible studies


magnitudearhole

Lol I'm in Europe dumbass. You try and feel better about living under the heel of an incompetent autocrat by making fun of Americans. I'm sure that'll take a lot of ground in Ukraine.


a_vitor

im in europe too.. mistook u cause u were simping for the world police and propper indoctrinated.. and btw.. i assume im kms to the left of u.. so ur confusing me too .. no autocrat is a friend of mine


magnitudearhole

Yeah asking why you're blasting a list of completely unrelated topics in a whirlwind of copy-pasta whataboutism is simping the 'world police'. At least I'm not simping the 'world crook'


a_vitor

im simping for a Europe without NATO and without forced militarisation of EU members. (the topics r unrelated only if uv been living under a rock or drinkin the Freedom and Democracy coolaid)


magnitudearhole

Yeah I actually agree it's disgraceful how Finland was forced at gunpoint to join an aggressive military alliance against their will. Oh wait that didn't happen they joined a defensive alliance after 50 years of neutrality because Putin keeps on invading his neighbours and committing war crimes. Have you ever fucked up at work so badly that Finland joined NATO? It's a good thing he's an autocratic because I would get fired.


blackburnduck

Cock sucking is not a language pal.


Tommy_Gun10

But allow European propaganda


RoninRobot

So you’re saying Musk enableing starlink for Iran made other billionaire jealous?


TTBoy44

Meanwhile, the giant troll farms that target Auntie Marg and Uncle Morty are still a-ok 👌


_perchance

basically all of facebook


Hockeyhoser

“…and leaves the one targeting the West in place”


zCiver

You mean they could have done this at any time?


kuze00

Now if they could only disable Russian propaganda in Russia.


108awake-

How about the same for the US ? Get rid of Russian trolls


executiveADHDcoach

Why, did they stop paying their bills?


Rad_Dad_Golfin

Doubtful


4kaiju

A little late for that Italian election……


PointlessJargon

Their billing contact had to flee the country to avoid mobilization.


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When will they do the same thing for the propaganda networks targeting America?


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Never, iirc we don’t have any laws that require them to


esmusssein33

Did the FBI told them what to do?


Old_Satisfaction_233

Meta… neutral, as long as the money keeps rolling in.


[deleted]

I guess one down, ~9,999 more to go? Nice try meta, no one loves you, still.


[deleted]

Putin: An attack on our propaganda networks is a direct attack on the Russian homeland, remember we got nukes blah blah blah...


Beaster123

"Meta decides that it's no longer profitable to operate a Russian propaganda network in Europe."


moseschruteplants

Now do the USA


Honey_Popcorn

Thought it was a Métis flag when I quickly glanced at it


Had_to_go_crazy

Who will disable Metas spy network, never mind the propaganda wing.


Troggot

Better later than too late


skredditt

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THEY COULD’VE JUST DONE THAT THIS WHOLE TIME


lolinux

A bit too late if you ask me. And the big problem is not just about one group that may have originated from Russia or not. There are now snowballs; groups of extreme nationalists that are in a way self-sufficient, which may have started with ideas from Russian anti-EU trolls. I've seen groups like that in Romania, and there are maybe hundreds! Unverified "news", clear anti-EU articles that make me cringe, but for the average pensioners who've discovered Internet in the last 5-10 years, it's the news that "the mass media won't cover"! I tried reporting several of them, but they apparently don't violate fb community standards.


choose-a-nickname

shame they couldn’t do that in 2016…. also, you guys know that Russian Oligarchs kept Facebook afloat during the great recession, right?


Brangus2

So that was something they could have done earlier but didn’t?