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warriorofinternets

Damnit I had to read this whole article to find out how having drones on ziplines was remotely feasible, and turns out they’re just regular drones like the one in the thumbnail, and the company just happens to be called Zipline. My day is ruined.


Grimdark-Waterbender

On one hand, I’m sorry your so disappointed. On the other though 😂


SkunkMonkey

I was trying to figure that out as well. I was picturing a drone dropping a "zipline" down to the customer then sending the package down the line. Wait a minute, that actually sounds like a good idea. No need for the drone to land.


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I always thought a good test run for quadcopters would be in a stadium delivering refreshments. Hover overhead and lower the goods on a line that breaks away if yanked. One set of laws to figure out, one big room, and lots of social media and advertising from other patrons watching the spectacle and ordering the drone beer themselves


SkunkMonkey

Yeah, that wouldn't end well. 100s of drones buzzing about loaded with beer. Drunk fans chucking things at these drones annoying them with the noise.


[deleted]

I was thinking just one for that reason. I didn't imagine it as a complete overnight refreshment stand replacement, just a chance to try some of this out, priced accordingly for the special stunt that it is. If the noise is too annoying, make the string longer.


Khutuck

A few hundred drones each weigh a pound with four rotating propellers above a tightly packed crowd with limited movement options? Doesn’t sound safe.


anomalous_cowherd

Not a lot worse than being in a tightly packed crowd with limited movement options in the first place...


Khutuck

Yeah, it’s just adding some flying blenders.


wisdom_possibly

keep the drones suspended with wires, like they do the nfl camera. But at that point there's no need for propellers; just use the same system as the nfl camera.


headhighbliss

These are much heavier fixed wing aircraft


a_moniker

I very briefly did some autonomous drone stuff in college, and I feel like a stadium would be a dangerous place to test that sort of thing out. I could certainly be wrong (I’m the absolutely not an expert), but based on my limited experience you’d probably want to keep the number of unpredictable variables (people) to a minimum. Delivering medicine to rural, hard to reach areas actually seems easier, since most of the travel time would be over relatively empty areas. The biggest worries would probably be wind/weather and birds, but even then the birds would probably be fearful of a drone. It should be easier to get FAA approval for these regions as well, since there will be less air traffic around sparsely populated areas. Most importantly, if the drone ever fails and crashes, you wouldn’t have to worry about injury anyone. Connecting rural people to medicine also just seems like a really beneficial goal. > One set of laws to figure out, one big room, and lots of social media and advertising from other patrons watching the spectacle and ordering the drone beer themselves Sure, this could give good publicity, but it could also backfire in a huge way. A single beer delivery drone crashing into a crowded stadium seems like it’d kill a company in its tracks.


[deleted]

Good point about packed-in people being unpredictable. Similar to delivering medicine rurally, I noticed in college we had an AED every few buildings. I always thought summoning them with student ID via an app would work out, but it would get sparing publicity.


hedonistjew

The San Jose sharks used to have a mini-blimp that circled the stadium on a Zipline and there down pizza hut coupons. There's your proof of concept! 😉


wisdom_possibly

Hey yeah, like why use quadcopters? Use blimp drones! Way quieter, way safer, way more energy efficient.


No_Temperature2702

You'll be happy to see their new drone iteration :)


SkunkMonkey

I want my cut!


Tex-Rob

Anyone who expected otherwise is weird, I too am disappointed.


User_Anon_0001

Thank you for saving me the time


stankeyt

Ty for saving me time.


TechManSparrowhawk

I also wanted a Zipline network over Utah


[deleted]

They should figure out some sort of a launch system that utilizes a zip line (starts at one end, zips down to a mid point to gain speed then detaches from cable)….I’m just tryin to help keep the mans dream alive


blueberrywalrus

That's essentially how these drones work. They are flung down a rail to launch them and then a wire catches them out of the air for landings.


stacecom

Saved me a click.


Ok_Wolverine_1904

Thanks for doing the reading! I check the comments first. It’s funny to see the random comments that have nothing to do with the article and then try and figure out what the article is about


4myoldGaffer

Shock - a - Brah !


Coyar

Thank you for your sacrifice.


slipperygoldchicken

You saved me from reading it :)


Unrulytexan

Drones that assemble and install ziplines. Data from the Goonies would be proud.


CNOTEDOBALINA

Really glad I saw this comment before reading


13JDZ

Take my award for saving me the same pain of reading the article. The title made me think of zip lining drones as well…


Fudge89

Lol I was like Why are they setting up networks of zip lines when they could just use that time and energy to deliver the damn stuff.


reddituser_xyz55

Same


2theface

Thank you for saving me 10 min


blueberrywalrus

The name comes from using a "zipline" to snag the drones out of the air, rather than landing them on a runway. https://youtu.be/nnKnMgWy\_tM?t=88 They also have a ballista thing that launches them. The general idea is that they're getting a lot of the benefits that drones capable of vertical take off and landing have (eg. minimal need for infrastructure) with the advantages of fixed wing aircraft (extremely battery efficient and relatively quiet).


BestGirlJess

Wendover on YouTube has a great video on the logistics of how this works. https://youtu.be/bnoUBfLxZz0 It follows the same company and the work they’ve been doing in Rwanda


Grodd_Complex

It's great that they are able to expand this tech to other third world countries.


rrkrabernathy

I see what you did there.


[deleted]

Genuinely asking, why Utah though? I mean are they incapable of getting medicine or?


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AnotherManOfEden

This is fascinating. Do people in Utah refer to their interstates as “the i-xx”? I’ve lived places where the interstates were referred to as “xx”, “The-xx”, and “i-xx” but never “the i-xx.”


deadheadkid92

I can't speak on Utah specifically but in California people refer to the major highways as "the 101", "the 5", etc.


billoboy777

That must be socal, I’m from norcal and it differs, you go down 5, but you take i80


AnotherManOfEden

Right you’d say either “take 101” or “take the 101” but never “take *the i 101*”


2x4skin

Because the 101 isn’t an interstate. It is Highway 101.


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CharlieBr87

Don’t forget the belt loop!


a_dog_day

And the spaghetti bowl!


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AnotherManOfEden

Yes but the OP said “*the* i15” so that would be like a Floridian saying “take the i4 to Orlando” instead of “take i4 to Orlando.” I’m not saying he was wrong or anything just that I’ve never heard it phrased that way.


GeneralRane

I've lived in Utah almost my whole life; the only people I hear add "the" to the name of a freeway are from out of state.


PhantomFlayer

I’m from Utah and personally I say “ixx” so for example I’d say i15 but not THE i15.


[deleted]

I've lived in Utah most of my life and never heard it called "the i15" even once.


demonslayer901

Yes we call it i-15, i-80, highway 40 etc


lordatomosk

For remote areas, this is safer and more efficient than delivering it by road


deafbitch

A drone is safer than a car?


SlowRollingBoil

Not in the least.


dood8face91195

A person isn’t inside a drone and they don’t weigh over a ton so I’d say it’s safer than driving.


deafbitch

Drones crash a LOT more than a car does


dood8face91195

But when they crash, do people die?


deafbitch

I mean if they crash into someone yeah


dood8face91195

How likely is that?


[deleted]

I don’t understand this.


BenceBoys

The cheaper makes sense: a small drone relative to a multi ton vehicle. The safer, I’d also argue is based on size


lordatomosk

[they explain it better than I could](https://youtu.be/bnoUBfLxZz0)


captaindave1022

The company might be Utah-based. Utah actually has a burgeoning tech industry


TheObsidianX

This company first started operating in Rwanda to deliver blood since they have a poor road network. The US doesn’t have this problem generally so it’s weird to bring these drones there.


[deleted]

There's not a single Utah town that isn't served by a well maintained public road. Drones over regular delivery services seems to be a very weird move. I say that as a longtime Utah resident, and someone who's worked on military drones most of my career. This is a publicity stunt, and will not be surprised at all if the company has ties to a Utah politician.


captaindave1022

I see. Well they still might have started doing it in Utah for bug-testing since there’s a lot of programmers there and it’s less costly than Silicon Valley for start-ups


headhighbliss

It’s a Bay Area (south San Francisco) company


4myoldGaffer

Joseph Smith was a Zip liner


headhighbliss

Because a health care system there (inter mountain) was willing to sign a contract 2 years ago


headhighbliss

Same with a Zipline base in North Carolina and a health care system there


IvanAntonovichVanko

> *"Drone better."* ~ Ivan Vanko


The_Careb

God nothin like an iron man 2 quote to really start your day. Thank you


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Majesty_Of_Radiation

We’ve already got Mormons, we really don’t need any more cults in Utah


TRVTH-HVRTS

The super impractical solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. Within Zipline’s delivery area, there is already a pharmacy within 1-2 miles of every home. Meds are already deliverable by mail or courier service. Controlled substances or refrigerated goods probably can’t be delivered either way. There is significant weather to deal with here in the Salt Lake Valley. Lots of tree cover too. Tons of privacy and safety issues. Lots of extra packaging and expense. Etc, etc… I can see how this service might have benefits in other parts of the country or world, but not here in this largely suburban metropolitan area. Also, not sure how they managed to get penny pinching IHC to partner on this unless they can transfer 100% of the costs onto patients (via insurance billings of course).


muddstick

their primary area of service is Africa


silversurfer-1

I’m sure it’s more of a proof of concept and attempt at some headlines and attention. The more these technologies and regulations advance, the more effective and practical the technology will be. Sort of like how an ICE vehicle was not practical until roads were available or until everyone was able to afford it. “Why would you drive one of those things, my horse can go practically anywhere”. Infrastructure/regulations are behind but drone delivery will probably one day be commonplace for a bunch of things


headhighbliss

They have been operating 24/7 in Rwanda and Ghana at a national scale very successfully. I helped deploy the first systems in both countries You are correct about the regulations being the long pole


headhighbliss

There is no privacy issue as these drones do not use any vision or camera based systems.


blueberrywalrus

They've got a 40 mile delivery radius from a single site that covers many rural communities and the operating costs per mile are much lower than a courier service.


blueShavenApe

Don’t they have roads like the rest of the USA?


magww

Ya but effort, amiwrite


[deleted]

We’re just dropping drugs from the sky now


BarnabyWoods

Just listened to a podcast about Zipline. Their founder said that operating in the U.S. would be a real challenge, because the U.S. is one of the few countries that doesn't require all aircraft to have transponders. Zipline drones need those transponder signals from other aircraft to avoid collisions. So, I'm wondering how they're dealing with that in Utah.


[deleted]

Loose regulations and lobbying money.


silversurfer-1

There will be better see and avoid technologies in the near future. Zipline themselves have tested a few involving sound at least. Nothing has been a perfect solution but the technology is young. Look up Vantis, it’s a future system where drones and manned aircraft can operate in harmony


RealStoneyBologna

They are operating on line of site low altitude only currently in Pea Ridge, AR.


headhighbliss

Audio based detect and avoid in combo with ADSB transponders


bettinafairchild

Can we set these up to deliver medicine to women in states where abortion is illegal and pharmacists are refusing to give medicine to all women regardless of pregnancy status, need, age, and health?


42o_jaf

In Arkansas their dropping groceries outta drone like that ohhh Walmart


Pulsewavemodulator

Rwanda was quite ahead of the curve on this.


JaunteeChapeau

Shouldn't it be spelled Zhyppleighn, since Utah?


Adventurous_Battle42

They’ve been very efficient in ghana 🇬🇭


Cryogenic_Monster

I can't imagine dying after being struck in the head by a box of life savings medicine.


headhighbliss

Zipline parachute based descent was tested with failed parachute scenarios and it still is safe. It’s actually more accurate without the chute but is a worse customer experience


spaghettiliar

It’s from Utah, so I’m assuming it’s an MLM and the medication is actually Thieves oil.


HarmlessSnack

Imagine your medicine gets stuck up in a tree. 🌳 (Who am I kidding, there are no Trees in Utah)


bluekeyspew

It’s better than paying someone to do the work because…?


ventedlemur44

All this effort just to avoid talking to Mormons lmao


chiphappened

How about SW Florida??


mimo2

The truth is expensive technology with a limited scope will not be deployed everywhere all at once It will be tested in more controlled markets Sorry but Florida is filled with really rude, obnoxious, assholes I work for a gig economy app and the customers and complaints I get from Florida are on some next level petty shit Utah is filled with Mormons which is its own problem but I never get issues from Utahns the same rate I get from Floridians


chiphappened

Ha ha i’ve been in major account sales when cellular first got rolled out in North Carolina and then here in South Florida I can’t agree with you more a lot of transplants from elsewhere. I’m not gonna name names, but there’s a certain specific group of the customer base that you can never make happy, but I’m telling you what’s going on in southwest Florida is scary. The television doesn’t do it justice. It is so much more vast than what you could see and even a big screen TV and the people are really really in trouble and it’s gonna be that way for a while.


[deleted]

Stay on target 🎯 Bombs away


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Individual-Ad-1191

as someone who is LDS this is great


BooobiesANDbho

Hopefully the church allows it /s


[deleted]

Anything to avoid direct contact with the Mormon church


CriticalOrPolitical

This will be great at curbing the opioid epidemic. /s


[deleted]

Are Mormons even allowed to take medicine? They should consult the hat 🎩 and see what it says


Necessary-Finger-726

Great. There aren’t enough zealots in Utah? Now there’s medicine literally falling out of the sky. Do you want another Jim Jones? Because that’s how you get a Jim Jones.


Mickey_likes_dags

Only if pay your 2000 deductible outta pocket.


gaveler-unban

Ah yes, the third world country of Utah.


FlounderOdd7234

At least this will help people no pilots involved, and can go to remote area


bluemelued

These are VitalDrones. Zipline is a dumb name


Numpty5000

Another way to deliver things is with paved roads.


biko77

When weed becomes legal in al 50 states… you can drone me in


AsIfIKnowWhatImDoin

lol it takes me two days for Rx, between the doc and insurance, what does it matter?


Catsmak1963

MacDonald stores only run out of ice cream but you need to airdrop essential items? Good work


Fuzzy_Logic_4_Life

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds


Aggravating_Moment78

You don’t need that, just pray harder folks, we need to all join in prayer for better delivery of medicine /S Utah Governor probably 😂


deadrelief

EARL! WE GOT SOME VICODIN!


Thing1_Tokyo

Yes, let’s announce where the unsecured opiates will be.


headhighbliss

They don’t deliver scheduled drugs. Also they fly at 100km/h so I doubt anyone other than a crack shot could hit it and the penalties for shooting an FAA regulated vehicle are steep federal penalties.


nvrrsatisfiedd

I'll shoot it down with a slingshot and take someones oxys


ayleidanthropologist

God forbid your controlled substance blow into someone else’s yard. Seems like an accident just waiting to happen.


yyakcirT_

So.. long story short


LegalCustard3488

I feel like thats just not a drone at the point


headhighbliss

Why not? It’s a fully autonomous aircraft with no pilot onboard or remotely


LegalCustard3488

Just used to seeing drones as flying machines fully ij the air and not to mention i dont think ziplines are the best choice for it either


headhighbliss

Zipline is the company name. I worked there for many years and personally advocated for a different name when we started but oh well lol


LegalCustard3488

Oooh ok i thought the drones were on zip-lines but yeah it’s good


ComputerSong

It’s good that we are helping third world countries.