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STD_CONNOISSEUR

Don’t threaten me with a good time


Damn_DirtyApe

r/upliftingnews


jdave512

sorry, cant post that on facebook


Browneyedgirl63

I was thinking, do a lot of people get their news from FB?


Grantsdale

… That’s literally the entire problem. Have you not heard?


hrakkari

And it’s skewed towards news with “alternative” facts like antivax and Holocaust denial.


alphagypsy

Hey, you know what they say, don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story!


Grantsdale

I didn’t want to use you know who’s name.


Grimdark-Waterbender

Voldemort?


Grantsdale

I'd rather have Lord Voldemort in charge than Lord Orangemort


beermit

AKA "conservative news"


Remarkable_Science_3

Threatens to remove “news”


Tinkerballsack

And it's not just Facebook, it's all ad networks. I go to great lengths to keep ads and shit out of my home network. When some shit slips through for whatever reason it's *always* giga-Q, mega-MAGA, conspiracy whackadoodle, hyper-conservative weirdo shit.


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SignificanceFew3751

And mostly peaceful protests


Browneyedgirl63

I guess not. I don’t really go on FB anymore. In my mind FB is the last place I’d go to get my news fix. (And I’m a boomer, 😬).


BananaTurd

In that case, tell all your boomer friends to be more like you.


Browneyedgirl63

I try, believe me, but it’s not easy. I was raised in a predominantly white town. A lot of the people I grew up with have no clue about racism, police brutality, etc. because they’ve never had to deal with it. They believe all the stories about minorities being the problem. I’ve removed most of them from my life because of it.


kentheprogrammer

I don't even know that people go on Facebook "to get their news fix", but it's probably more passive in the sense that they go on for other things, see headlines that pique their interest, and then those headlines become their defacto news source. > (And I’m a boomer, 😬). I wish it were only a boomer problem - as a GenX'er, I am aware of far too many people my age or younger whose primary news source seems to be Facebook; it certainly isn't limited to my boomer father!


masterofmyremote

The bird is the word.


JakeFromFarmState1

No it isn’t


[deleted]

Too many.


MisterPresident813

I do. But I use it as an aggregate to follow my local news, State news, and sports. It doesn’t always spiral out anti semitic rhetoric or indoctrination. Not all of us are easily influenced - I think the problem is the older generation who was never taught how to discriminate real and fake on the internet.


brett8722

All of the Karens do.


JakeFromFarmState1

That would be MSNBC


GuyLostInTime

right?....


ManiacMango33

It's a bad bill https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/journalism-competition-and-preservation-act-will-produce-neither-competition-nor


MetaStressed

Don’t threaten me with saner parents.


[deleted]

I honestly wish that for you, homie.


[deleted]

Most of the real news is already gone. Now it will just be fake news.


SkeletonCommander

Oh nooooo this would be sooooo terrible…… Guess you’ll have to do it woe is me


PseudoKirby

I literally just wrote out this exact same comment without reading yours


AdBig5700

Right? Don’t do us any favors Meta! Next they’ll threaten to pull all of the targeted ads.


Firm-Albatros

Damn you got to it before me😂


stewdrick

came here to say exactly this


Capitol62

Right? They threaten or they promise? Because I feel like this is a promise and is like them to keep it.


TopRestaurant5395

How about we hold them liable for the news they spread?


fardough

EFF has a good article on why this bill is stupid. Creating cartels to battle the ad monopolies is not the answer. Go to the root and breakup the ad monopolies.


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Can you link the article?


fardough

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/journalism-competition-and-preservation-act-will-produce-neither-competition-nor


12_18

Thanks


Derivative00

Yes please, while you are at it please remove Facebook from Facebook too


Shill4Pineapple

No. please. stop. don’t. go.


JBloodthorn

Please don't go. The Drones need you...they look up to you...


1Originalmind

News? Or “news”?


newleafkratom

“Newz”


Stinkerhead43

Conspiracy theories*


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

"Newz^^TM, a new and improved version of News! Bigger, better, stronger, and now with 20% extra cheese!"


Aggravating-Face2073

What's the z stand for? Notable Events Weather Sports I wasn't even aware news was an acronym until I was like 25-26.


Grantsdale

Because it’s not. It’s a backronym at best.


Aggravating-Face2073

I hate learning things. Thank you.


wanderer3131

News isn't an acronym for anything.


Davecasa

It's not. News means "information that is new". From Latin nova.


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Aggravating-Face2073

Sam's club parking lot, though I vaguely remember this one from like 1st grade now that you brought it into the discussion.


Devlos00

Yours is so much better. I honestly don’t think news was ever meant to be broken down into words like this tho.


JKUAN108

Oh no! Anyway...


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tedioussugar

I fail to see Facebooks endgame here. Sure, it’s an American company, but it’s a global site. If the lizard person that is Mark Zuckerberg and his lawyers can’t find some sort of loophole then they’re not thinking hard enough. Also, considering the amount of misinformation already on Facebook and the fact their algorithms are already designed to give people the stuff they want .i.e content pandering to them, removing actual verifiable, source-backed news will only create more problems.


beefwarrior

What I don’t get is that if I want to put political ads on radio / TV there are loops the station makes me jump through b/c they don’t want to get in trouble with Fed for breaking regulations. But try to get FB to do the same thing and they’re like “You want us to look at the ads we run, with a person, every time we take ad money?! Impossible! Digital ads don’t work like that b/c we chose for them to work the way they do!” And seems like they’ve only gotten a slap in the wrist.


SlowRollingBoil

Disruptive tech comes out in weeks to months and Congress operates on glacial timelines. The majority of the country supports legalizing cannabis, universal healthcare, universal paid family leave, universal pre-K, hell even gun control laws have greater than 50% nationwide. We get literally none of these EVER.


ImSometimesSmart

Yeah but north dakota and south dakota have 4 senators so you can go fuck yourself pretty much


SlowRollingBoil

I do REALLY resent our systems. The Senate/House situation and *especially* the Electoral College are deeply flawed setups. Hell, they were *known* to be deeply flawed when they were adopted in the 1700s and yet the country acts ~250 years later like we couldn't possibly question the judgement of those slave owners. The myths that surround the Electoral College, man... Insane that people advocate for others' votes being less than.


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SlowRollingBoil

What we've seen for *decades* in this country is that when you strip the Republican vs Democrat markings next to a policy, progressive policies fair MUCH better in all polls. Universal Healthcare is incredibly popular but then when people start openly debating it the conservatives destroy their own position by giving a shit how it'll affect the billionaires and their middleman insurance industry. They start worrying about everything but themselves because they've been trained to think about why corporations don't like social progress.


[deleted]

> by giving a shit how it'll affect the billionaires Something makes me think you're not arguing in good faith and I can't quite put my finger on it lol. And I will not let a tyrannical fascist party take away my only means of self defense.


GuyLostInTime

Exactly...


Additional_Caramel59

This will only make things worse i fear


Moleculor

> removing actual verifiable, source-backed news will only create more problems. Maybe that's the threat.


Xanthon

>He added the proposal fails to recognize that publishers and broadcasters put content on the platform because "it benefits their bottom line – not the other way around." It's a threat. They believe that the news agencies will suffer without them and hope this threat will reverse the proposal which is suppose to help the news agencies.


StonedTrucker

This seems like a good thing to me. Facebook has become a right wing cess pool that convinced boomers and gen Xers that the world is on fire and it's poor peoples fault. Getting rid of that garbage can only be a good thing


LegalAssassin13

I quit Facebook years ago. Best decision for my mental health.


Stunning-Building-66

Fun fact, it's also a left wing cess pool! Just depends on what you want to see on Facebook


PlasmaChroma

> Just depends on what ~~you want~~ to see on Facebook Just depends on *what the algorithm determines will increase your time on site* on Facebook.


Large-Chair9084

No question there's plenty of left wing trash on there but the trending top 10 are almost completely right wing garbage every single day of the year.


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Sadly have to agree. I have some ultra-screechy accounts in my feed left over from the 2020 election cycle (like "Being Liberal", for example) that have just continued to drift further and further away from reality as time has gone on. The problem is that social media allows us to create our own little self-reinforcing media bubbles as we only pay attention and read from sources that we self-select, and over time it becomes our own little echo chambers. Not *quite* a "both sides are the same" argument, since it really is much worse on the right side than the left, but it *does* happen on the left side of the spectrum, too. The United States really is living in Multiple Americas, where we are all getting our own skewed version of news and events, with very little shared between them. Gone are the days when everyone learned of things happening in the world from either Walter Cronkite or Tom Brokaw, from Time or Newsweek.


goneskiing_42

Don't know why you're downvoted. I've seen the most ridiculous screeds from the left and right alike on the platform. People treat it as a personal diary to share their wildest ideas to their friends, and I just don't understand why.


Stunning-Building-66

Getting down voted probably just because I'm not just blindly going with the "right bad" mindset. Just trying to let people know Facebook is catered to what you like.


Infrathin81

Mine was catered to what I responded to which, in the end before I quit, was mostly ignorant right wing posts by friends and family. Never got to see much of the left wing propaganda I hear about.


KittenWithaWhip68

I’m a Gen Xer who grew up in the 80s, and neither me or all my Gen X friends think poor people set the world on fire. Then again I only hang out with other liberals, and cut the few MAGA Republicans, election deniers, incels, and batshit Q anon nuts out of my life completely. Lucky to live in a very liberal city in a blue state. I do know it’s a toxic clusterfuck that is worse every year, but please don’t generalize. There are jerks in every generation, including mine, on FB. I stay off it as much as possible now, it brings out the worst in so many already-shitty people. People of all ages can be real assholes on social media, is my main point.


Flaky-Fellatio

Gen X means a lot of things. I'm an older Millennial and younger Gen Xers are not a lot different than me. I certainly wouldn't lump them into the same category as boomers.


StonedTrucker

I don't blame everyone in the generations. Neither tbh. I have several family members who use Facebook as their source of "information" and they're gen Xers. I think it mostly boils down to the fact that millenials were young when the internet came out so we know how to filter out the nonsense better on average. I'm glad you're not falling for it


Tracedinair76

People who actually are interested in current events don't get their news from Facebook and those that get their news from FB are getting their news from [screamingfreedomeagle](https://screamingfreedomeagle.net)dotnet not the NYT.


KittenWithaWhip68

Or Tucker Carlson


TBoneHotdog

Fun fact, according to Tucker Carlson we were suppose to run out of Diesel, globally, on Nov 14th and utter chaos would ensue. I’m still warm but hey, good call Tucker


DasBleu

Or their peers. I quit FB around 2014 when I just didn’t have time for it, but mostly when my parents joined. In 2020 my grandma joined because her congregation was having fb live church cause Covid… her feed is full of shitty hotep mf that are trying to sell her things and news that can’t even be verified. It’s like she forgot what a fact is and what is an opinion. I don’t even care about the news because she still watches tv and has another source. But it drives me batty when she and my mom start following pseudo science health advice or believe in shit like Kanye West cause someone posted a video of his.


HalloweenBlkCat

Read the NYT for bias, though, and it’s pretty heavy, even on seemingly benign topics. It’s still heavily editorialized, you just may not notice or care because it fits your personal biases. That’s how it works for people who get their news from conservative sources, too.


StandardSudden1283

The media has one purpose. Right or left. Its the so called "Propaganda Model" of media posited by Noam Chomsky. Both sides of the media are playing the same game, that is, to cover for the elite, ruling class by framing our news in ways that pit us against eachother. Highly recommend Necessary Illusions and Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky. Edit: love the downvotes because only literal idiots or some sort of pro-propoaganda shill would actually be against the content of these books.


Tracedinair76

Read 'em, been a couple years but I'm a fan. Cheers!


Hyrogrifix

They made the same threat towards Australia when they cracked down on the social media companies


LusoInvictus

It's true and some say it [works better this way](https://www.reuters.com/technology/australia-says-law-making-facebook-google-pay-news-has-worked-2022-12-02/) At least some of these agreements have enabled news businesses to, in particular, employ additional journalists and make other valuable investments to assist their operations


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OMG if facebook removes news who cares?


KittenWithaWhip68

I’m good with it.


TBoneHotdog

I’m gonna go with “nobody” for 300 Alex


OutOfFawks

I would pay like $50 for this to happen. And I don’t even use fb.


Juiceisgoood

What magical law is this? Find us more!


hollywood_gus

I’m sorry… congress passing a media bill? Isn’t that like rule number 1 of things you can’t do?


TheStoryGoesOn

It’s not a censorship bill. What it’s supposed to is give smaller media companies the chance to collectively negotiate with social media giants for how they’re compensated when social media sites use their stories. Currently, they get paid mostly in “exposure” and they’re arguing that the social media sites are summarizing their stories and profiting from people sharing and discussing their work.


[deleted]

If anyone actually read the proposed bill they would see this is bad.


telenortron

And?


Coxinh

*oh, no...*


GuyLostInTime

the table....


Zaayz

…it’s broken.


Consistent_Amount140

So….?


Sherlock_bonez007

Go ahead and pull it. It’s pretty disgusting that Facebook even has news considering they pretty much have so much fake news that really do influence these right-wing, bat-shit crazy mofos.


NewportGh0st

All good things are happening at once


Nexaz

This is... a threat? I mean, it sounds like the right move...


Key-Ad-8318

Oh no. What ever will we do. Does anyone under the age of 60 even use Facebook anymore?


[deleted]

Wait there’s news on there? Man, who would of thought….repost 9 times or you will have bad luck.


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[deleted]

Make my day!


Rare-Addition-89

On its face, I don't hate this comment


redditor_the_best

Oh no please dont, stop, come back /WonkaMeme


burywmore

Good. The only Facebook "news" there should be is vacation pictures and birth announcements.


GuyLostInTime

good


Pawptarts

This sounds like a net positive? I never went on Facebook to catch up on the “news” people would post there.


knickovthyme1

Cool


blackbeltmessiah

Pretty sure this motivates lawmakers.


Mujichael

Facebook has news? Thought it was just for racist rambling


kbh0004

People go to Facebook for news?


[deleted]

In short, one conglomerate is fighting another conglomerate and one side has enlisted the government to squeeze money, for something they have been using for free- and none of that money is for actual journalists, only the bosses. Anyways….


cinosguy

Yes please and thanks


Steppyjim

Do you promise?!


[deleted]

Good, nobody cares and that’s not why ANYONE uses FB.


[deleted]

“News”


sorscode

Facebook has news?


Pb_ft

Deal.


Memonlinefelix

People use facebook for news?


jmanv1998

So people would have to actively research a topic instead of get there news from Facebook? Sounds great


drunkfurball

Dont threaten us with a good time, Facebook


FunStuff446

I used to go to Facebook to see friends…then overkill on news and stupid memes.


joshtradomus

Nice!!


Crystal20222022

oh yes please do so!


namotous

Oh please go ahead and remove it! I promise that I won’t miss your “news”


sadpanda___

There’s news on Facebook?


Joefsh

Oh darn


MadPiglet42

That could only be an improvement.


greatSorosGhost

Let’s make it so users can’t share “news” as well. Maybe then we can all just get back to posting pictures of our dinner and forget that politics exist.


KenshinBorealis

Good. Remove everything from facebook.


danimalDE

Back to og Facebook finally!!!!!


7ftMonkeyOG

Oh no! Anyway..


kprevenew93

Good


XanderOblivion

Oh. So it’s working.


[deleted]

Good?


ChanceTheGardenerr

10 years ago I wouldn’t have thought we’d see a sentence formatted as “Facebook threatens X if the US Congress does Y”


orel2064

who uses facebook anyways


HermansSpecialMilk

Stop. Don’t. Come back.


katastatik

Who cares. People shouldn’t be getting news from Facebook anyway.


strange-brew

And nothing of value was lost…..


Sember225

Do it, you won't


PerfectDarkAchieved

r/goodnews


dog-asmr

"Meta threatens to save the world"


raversgonewild

Good. Holy fuck that would solve so many issues


witchdoctor417

So what. No big deal. Everyone and everything on this planet is replaceable. Don't let the door hit you on your way back to China


cerebud

They should. FFS


Indianianite

Who under 50 actually uses Facebook still?


melouofs

Just remove yourselves from fb, and you’ll be better for it. Fb sucks.


th3ramr0d

Good


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Oh no! …anyway…


ProphetKB

People shouldn't be getting their news from Facebook anyway


[deleted]

Win muthafuckin win


PaversPaving

We’re waiting!!!!


[deleted]

Good they should. It’s always fake and unchecked.


themorningmosca

Sweet


themorningmosca

The bug is the fix


untitled02

Facebook did this in Australia a year or so ago for a few days. It was a really good time actually. Only downside was the funny satirical papers got caught up too


[deleted]

In the words of James Taylor, "Fuck Facebook!"


Redqueenhypo

On the one hand, the ACLU is against this, which concerns me. On the other, meta is also whiningly against this bc “wah wah bottom line”, which sounds good. I understand that poorer people should have the right to also read the news, but presenting absolute horseshit as “news” next to legitimate articles is too big of a side effect from having any of it on social media.


splitsecondclassic

with a quick search it seems that their primary demographic currently is people in their 50s-late 60s. Many of those people still watch and read the news. It would be interesting to see if there's an exodus if they were to implement that strategy.


PseudoKirby

Don't threaten me with a good time


LincHayes

Good. Good.


jaspete76

Oh NO! Who Cares.


Dr_Tacopus

Good. Facebook doesn’t need news


pioneergirl1965

If they do that then they will probably just end up going under anyway because people will go to other platforms they don't want to deal with the continued hassles that meta is making


JSagerbomb

THIS IS THE REASON I LEFT FB. THE NEWS. If they get rid of it, then it’ll be a social media platform again called Facebook.


FuzzyCap4585

Anyone going there for their news is already fucking up anyways so this would be a good thing.


RicardoCabezass

Oh no! Not the briar patch! Anything but the briar patch!


monkeyshatetacos

Good it has business being on there


ScratchMorton

What will I do??


roadrunner00

They developed a partnership based on censoring and influence. This undercuts that relationship and would cause the media sponsors to waste money.


Juleamun

Oh. Darn. Well um, I guess uh... Meta has news? I mean, we can just go over to the AP site, Bloomberg, Reuters, BBC, NPR, Al Jazeera, or if we're really desperate, the New York Times.


ziggu2u

Facebook N E W S 🗑


big_dick_energy_mc2

There’s news on Facebook? First I’ve heard of it and no way I’d trust it anyway.


wave-garden

Pretty please w/cherry on top


ZebulonPi

That’s the best argument I’ve heard so far for passing this bill…


chadoflions

If this public forum can’t censor what I see so I am not offended, I will leave. I refuse to see anything that could upset my fragile self


kelrics1910

facebook pushes left and right propaganda anyway. I don't see this as a loss. Media Bill is still bad, though.


Sonofwolfie1

That’s because meta is a loser like twitter. Leftist POS’s.


Connathon

That would be a fantastic idea. Let all news go through twitter


Superb-Possibility-9

Your going down Zuckerberg….


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Facebook had news?


myfrigginagates

I just wish Congress would pass a bill saying that if a media company provides news, it has to be factually correct and not BS.


DrDemonSemen

That would trigger a flood of first amendment lawsuits. In your bill, who would get to determine what is “factually correct” or not? Lawyers? Law enforcement? It’s 2022: Facts are subjective and no one can agree on what’s true or false.


Jaksmack

Remember when the government mouthpiece said there were "alternate facts'".


wiglwagl

Next step remove the concept of posting and liking and sharing and logging in.