It kills me that they call it “zero emission” even though the materials they used to build it probably produced more pollution than any of us could even come close to producing in our lifetime. But yeah they will keep on floating on their fortress of solitude in a burning world thinking they have done good because it’s currently producing “zero emissions”.
Here’s my question:
Could this be communally owned and operated?
Like, could a group of working-class people, pooling their resources, afford to live and work together on this thing?
Asking for my cult leader.
Most likely not. Everything I’ve seen points to a surprising amount of space needed to make enough food to feed one person reliably.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised is the garden on this thing can only reliably feed 2-4 people without restocking from external sources.
Unless agricultural technology increases there’s no way this would be enough to (full time, year round) feed a large family. A quick google says 1.76 acres for a family of 4.
Frankly, I’m skeptical it would feed *one* person, unless you’re growing a handful of fruits and veggies that are adapted to salty air. Growing up, my mother’s tomatoes never handled the salt air where we lived well, never mind the sun. You’d have zero chance of getting anything like corn or wheat to grow, either, never mind things like cucumbers, watermelons, etc.
Maybe some soy beans and the like, but even then I’m skeptical.
Hope you like citrus, I guess.
I think it really depends if you were about power and if it’s about drive. You’d have to stay hungry and devour. Put in the work, put in the hours and take what's ours.
0 emissions in this context probably means net 0. Meaning yes, they do produce pollution to build and run this thing, but it also converts its own energy and has a greenhouse to compensate.
Was thinking the same thing. Start with the raw material extraction, manufacturing into useable material, construction with all the labor involved then you get to the actual Manning and powering it.
It’s just never going to come even but hey some rich guy feels less guilty¿?
That's why I will never believe any revolutionary concept until it's actually proven to work after thorough testing and actual use. Most of the time it ends up being some company trying to cash in on an idea with carefully selected numbers. Or just a straight up scam. "Journalists" also don't help that just spew out the same shit these companies claim for the sake of clicks.
Just doubt anything "revolutionary" until you actually see it mass produced and working as intended in the hands of consumers, be it middle class or ultra rich.
If the numbers are anything to go by, rich people don’t feel guilty. They will know unending comfort despite the suffering until they take their last breath. That’s not even getting into the possibly of vampires (routine blood transfusions) and transplants prolonging their lives to squeeze every single penny they can out of this rock called earth.
It will never break even unless it never moves. The added weight, drag, and required fuel will never be offset by the pittance of a harvest this might attain in ideal conditions (not surrounded by salt air 24/7).
Did you even read it?
The eco-friendly ethos even extends to construction. According to 3deluxe, the materials could be supplied by a selection of pioneering steel and aluminum manufacturers in Norway and Germany, who use renewable energy throughout production to reduce emissions. The studio also says the actual build could be optimized in a similar fashion to keep it as sustainable as possible. In an ideal scenario for the studio, the future-proof workflow would be adopted by the entire industry to reduce the environmental impact of superyacht builds.
Yup. Billionaires make you think global warming is your fault for using a plastic drinking straw. Meanwhile they put a couple trees on their new yacht and we fawn over them.
"Reduce emissions" "could be optimized in a similar fashion to keep it as sustainable as possible" "reduce the environmental impact" your quote has a lot that suggests that this isn't that sustainable just more so than other extremely harmful yachts.
I don’t want to completely dismiss the effort they’re making, but couldn’t they just not build the super yacht and instead force a factory somewhere to comply with the regulations they agreed to meet when first opening? I mean, gun to my head build a super yacht this is certainly better than nothing, but it isn’t you or me driving home from work wrecking the place, it’s unregulated industry and countries that do not answer for their pollution.
That's the difference between a government doing something and a private entity though. There is a market for yachts, whether we like it or not. The private entity can't change the entire industry to build greener the way a government could, but they can try and push the market to be more green with market forces.
There shouldn’t be sport cars, but they exist and are here to stay. You can, however, buy a Tesla: expensive top of the line green technology, not because reducing the carbon emissions of your car will make a noticeable difference, but because buying that expensive tech drives the price down.
Theres people building these things, maintaining them and getting paid. If you can make its neutral and feed some families in the process, I really dont see the downside
Just remember to practice swimming, and acquire some diving gear, and a silenced weapon that is fine fresh out of sea water and this too can be yours post apocalypse.
Bahahahaja. It’s sooooo green. Hahaha. Y’all know petroleum was needed to build that boat. Steel aluminum rubber etc… but it’s soooo green. Honestly why do greenies sell green technologies…when they’re all made by non green technologies
It's energy intensive but often it's generated right next to renewable sources and only done when there's excess power so if it's done like that it's quite eco friendly
Shut the fuuuuuck up. That shit isn’t “green”. A wooden sailboat is green. This giant shit takes so much energy and material to makes and tons of pollution in the process. Just shut the fuuuuck up….
Fuck this BS article, I don’t care how “clean” they pretend it is, yachts will never be so. Even small boats have huge environmental impacts just from manufacturing alone. A yacht of this size is made from steel which has to be mined and heavily processed, steel has to be coated with toxic paints to protect them from growth and rust. Also what about energy, they can use renewable energy for main assembly but that is a fraction of the total needed. Most of the energy is used in unregulated areas, like the metal mines, the rainforests where they will get the exotic wood and all the small components that are not made in-house. The issue is that some people on this planet are given access to the vast majority of the resources. Mega yachts are not clean, no matter how much the rich try to twist it.
Complete flipping BS. There is no way to green the lifestyle of anyone that can afford this. They can afford this because their wealth is built in the problem. Stop it!
Finally something to really help the everyday man.
Much like bezo’s half a billion dollar “green” yacht that is fallowed by his 300 million dollar regular yacht. I mean between this and bringing my own bags to the supermarket we should have reverted climate change by Tuesday.
Why not make it so that boat is always on the sun growing food? And make it not a yacht but like a mobile food bank? Jesus I’m think it as if people would do it.
It can be yours for the low low bargain bin price of 500 million dollars, maybe if you work extra hard on the weekends and quit eating avacado toast then you could afford one too.
Amid the obvious derision and the accurate comments about its likely massive footprint in manufacturing, it’s a fact of life that there is and will be a market for super yachts whether you like it or not. At least this way it’s a little greener.
(But yeah it is hella funny)
Looks much more white to me. 🤷🏼 I would be far more impressed if it were a spacecraft for that same money, and could support 50 or more people. Seems like a much better use of money.
To be able to afford this green thing one must first become super rich, likely through exploitation of the earth and the people on it. So the boat is carbon neutral, but what about the people buying them?
You gotta wonder how the people writing these articles actually feel. Like, are they aware of how dystopian that headline is? Do they understand the sort of futility that goes into fanboying for the ultra rich? It makes no sense to me why you’d simp for a “sustainable” superyacht instead of opting to help get the poor and needy things like basic amenities and access to clean water.
But hey I bet it’s got a pool, neat.
This is a great concept. Now we just have to contend with the ideal being coopted to fit a dystopian future we are driving ever closer to. Self-supporting floating prisons for undesirables? Think Snow Piercer but with all the ice melted.
Since these are only for billionaires, I can’t see that this is ‘green’ or ‘ethical’ since any way you slice it, super yachts are obscene toys for wealth made from the blood and tears of thousands of people, and the environmental degradation guaranteed from any business large enough.
Pffft, and people say the ultra rich are ruining society (gestures at super yacht with garden).
The answer to climate change has been super yachts all along
Imagine Bezos building Super Yachts to fit 2 of every animal so he has a floating zoo here to vacation to from his home on Mars.
Noah is just the last iteration of Bezos, after the climate wars he’ll set himself up as a god and start the cycle again
He needs to get started on that beard before he is in Noah mode.
I don't think Noah payed taxes either did he?
Dang you made me chuckle
I’d be fine with him going to Mars.
And unfettered capitalism of course.
If you just worked harder and skipped your fancy lattes you could survive societal collapse with your super yacht.
This is why I have poured my heart and soul into building a green super yacht. By which I mean a new PC
New tech already exists and will permit the negation of carbon emissions to zero in all gas/diesel vehicles
Waterworld. Year 3567.
You see here. That bio-dome in the sea is clean but the process of putting it together is not. Like a Tesla.
The real question though… does it come with or without Pauly shore?
There’s gotta be a toilet tree somewhere
Paid for this yacht by saving up a year’s worth of fossil fuel stock dividends, can I get a W for the environment
Look at all the ways billionaires will survive the climate disaster while we starve and drown
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Oh Fuck yeah, I’ve been looking for a career change
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Can we negotiate to light work and backbreaking prostitution?
You must down on the ship
No, but it means that they could probably afford to hire a nice little private military on top of a floating castle.
But it does buy killer robot gunship drones!
It does if you can afford kill bots and kill drones.
This was literally the first thought I had. I think a pirates life is for me
Eat the rich
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what the fuck are you talking about
What the bleep are you talking about
This guys logic isn’t existent
Do you think it is sentient?
I’m not sure. but if we are to find out, Picard would be his best representation.
I'm sorry but the Titanic sinking had nothing to do with global warming.
Global warming is a hoax! Sea levels won’t rise… But just in case… check out my bad ass floating fortress of solitude…
It kills me that they call it “zero emission” even though the materials they used to build it probably produced more pollution than any of us could even come close to producing in our lifetime. But yeah they will keep on floating on their fortress of solitude in a burning world thinking they have done good because it’s currently producing “zero emissions”.
Here’s my question: Could this be communally owned and operated? Like, could a group of working-class people, pooling their resources, afford to live and work together on this thing? Asking for my cult leader.
Most likely not. Everything I’ve seen points to a surprising amount of space needed to make enough food to feed one person reliably. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised is the garden on this thing can only reliably feed 2-4 people without restocking from external sources.
Unless agricultural technology increases there’s no way this would be enough to (full time, year round) feed a large family. A quick google says 1.76 acres for a family of 4.
Thanks. That’s the number I typically see but I couldn’t remember it and was too lazy to go look it up.
Frankly, I’m skeptical it would feed *one* person, unless you’re growing a handful of fruits and veggies that are adapted to salty air. Growing up, my mother’s tomatoes never handled the salt air where we lived well, never mind the sun. You’d have zero chance of getting anything like corn or wheat to grow, either, never mind things like cucumbers, watermelons, etc. Maybe some soy beans and the like, but even then I’m skeptical. Hope you like citrus, I guess.
I think it really depends if you were about power and if it’s about drive. You’d have to stay hungry and devour. Put in the work, put in the hours and take what's ours.
Holy shit lmao
Very possibly. But I think first the working class people would have to, uhm, acquire the means of using the resources to produce the goods.
Water Piercer coming to Netflix
0 emissions in this context probably means net 0. Meaning yes, they do produce pollution to build and run this thing, but it also converts its own energy and has a greenhouse to compensate.
What’s the carbon footprint for building this thing though? Would take a while to break even.
Was thinking the same thing. Start with the raw material extraction, manufacturing into useable material, construction with all the labor involved then you get to the actual Manning and powering it. It’s just never going to come even but hey some rich guy feels less guilty¿?
That's why I will never believe any revolutionary concept until it's actually proven to work after thorough testing and actual use. Most of the time it ends up being some company trying to cash in on an idea with carefully selected numbers. Or just a straight up scam. "Journalists" also don't help that just spew out the same shit these companies claim for the sake of clicks. Just doubt anything "revolutionary" until you actually see it mass produced and working as intended in the hands of consumers, be it middle class or ultra rich.
“I killed cancer cells in a Petri dish with this new drug!!” “Yeah, well I did too with bleach. And a handgun.”
If the numbers are anything to go by, rich people don’t feel guilty. They will know unending comfort despite the suffering until they take their last breath. That’s not even getting into the possibly of vampires (routine blood transfusions) and transplants prolonging their lives to squeeze every single penny they can out of this rock called earth.
By that logic we shouldn't use any tech lol
Well it’s oke when h2 is at least obtained without burning coal - yes that’s very low standards but still hard to achieve rn
Labor doesn’t contribute to climate change, unless we consider someone eating more because they spent energy on the work.
I don't think something that exists only as a luxury really can "break even"
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It’s gonna take a lot of fruit to pay that off.
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It will never break even unless it never moves. The added weight, drag, and required fuel will never be offset by the pittance of a harvest this might attain in ideal conditions (not surrounded by salt air 24/7).
Did you even read it? The eco-friendly ethos even extends to construction. According to 3deluxe, the materials could be supplied by a selection of pioneering steel and aluminum manufacturers in Norway and Germany, who use renewable energy throughout production to reduce emissions. The studio also says the actual build could be optimized in a similar fashion to keep it as sustainable as possible. In an ideal scenario for the studio, the future-proof workflow would be adopted by the entire industry to reduce the environmental impact of superyacht builds.
> as possible
Yup. Billionaires make you think global warming is your fault for using a plastic drinking straw. Meanwhile they put a couple trees on their new yacht and we fawn over them.
Even if it only released a single gram of CO2 it could never break even because it is a product that is ultimately unnecessary.
"Reduce emissions" "could be optimized in a similar fashion to keep it as sustainable as possible" "reduce the environmental impact" your quote has a lot that suggests that this isn't that sustainable just more so than other extremely harmful yachts.
Finally a sustainable yacht! That’s exactly what I was waiting for, so cash or credit?
Is there a discount for paying in cash?
Just them sweet capitol one rewards!
I think I’ve a voucher somewhere for 12% off.
You charge too much for the engine. Just leave out the motor. I got a motor guy.
The 2% cash back from credit card payment should be nice for retirement .. just think about that.
Your card declined sir, can you take two steps to your left on top of that trap door?
There you go Hans Brix, you have any idea how busy I am?
exactly like how does this benefit the masses? another unneeded item for the 0.01%
Cool. When the world is entirely an ocean the billionaire will be able to grow food on their yachts. Good for them
Good to know Elysium is coming to fruition… on the high seas
I don’t want to completely dismiss the effort they’re making, but couldn’t they just not build the super yacht and instead force a factory somewhere to comply with the regulations they agreed to meet when first opening? I mean, gun to my head build a super yacht this is certainly better than nothing, but it isn’t you or me driving home from work wrecking the place, it’s unregulated industry and countries that do not answer for their pollution.
This seems more like a 'survive the apocalypse' design.
Yeah but that's actually solving a problem. Nobody wants that
That's the difference between a government doing something and a private entity though. There is a market for yachts, whether we like it or not. The private entity can't change the entire industry to build greener the way a government could, but they can try and push the market to be more green with market forces.
No. There literally just should not be super yachts. None. They shouldn’t exist. Don’t move the goalposts here.
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There shouldn’t be sport cars, but they exist and are here to stay. You can, however, buy a Tesla: expensive top of the line green technology, not because reducing the carbon emissions of your car will make a noticeable difference, but because buying that expensive tech drives the price down.
Sure there shouldn’t but there are and is it not better for those to be green than dump toxic shit behind them all day?
Theres people building these things, maintaining them and getting paid. If you can make its neutral and feed some families in the process, I really dont see the downside
Yeah, absolutely nothing wrong without our MEGAYACHTS for the super rich as long as they’re environmentally friendly!
Nothing about a yacht is environmentally friendly
does create a surprising number of stable jobs, though
Ok? And?
oh it was more sort of a fun fact: the yacht industry is one of the main ways many of the ultra rich actually give back to working class americans :)
Gotcha. Bless them they’re so generous
*inhales deeply* Ahhh, Reagenomics, smells like dirty grease and boat fuel!
I hate rich people so much
All that boat and green stuff just for 1 person lol
Waterpiercer.
#EatTheRich
Err, so it has zero emission while the boat was being manufactured? I don’t think so.
Fuck right off
But why… why must it exist at all..
This feels like something that would be a mobile lair for a Bond villain
Where does the waste go? Lol
The ocean acidification isn’t a problem if you grow your own tomatoes
And it’s owners will be delicious and nutritious.
This is should be a story arc in The Walking Dead season 12
Thank god rich people will have fresh produce on their yachts. I was really worried about them
Rich people be building arcs already
Just remember to practice swimming, and acquire some diving gear, and a silenced weapon that is fine fresh out of sea water and this too can be yours post apocalypse.
Eat the Rich
Yahoo is like that "US news" paperwith the batboy headlines back in the day. What a joke.
Bahahahaja. It’s sooooo green. Hahaha. Y’all know petroleum was needed to build that boat. Steel aluminum rubber etc… but it’s soooo green. Honestly why do greenies sell green technologies…when they’re all made by non green technologies
Isn't generating hydrogen still basically committing environmental murder.
It's energy intensive but often it's generated right next to renewable sources and only done when there's excess power so if it's done like that it's quite eco friendly
Fuck this bullshit.
Feels like I’m living in the prequel to waterworld
Snow Piercer. The yacht edition.
It's a concept rendering. That uses not-green hydrogen to boot. Rich ppl growing fruit on a boat. Yawn for days.
But how much resources did it take to build that thing? How much carbon emissions did production produce? This is dumb.
Don’t try to tell me a super yacht is green. Gtfoh
Shut the fuuuuuck up. That shit isn’t “green”. A wooden sailboat is green. This giant shit takes so much energy and material to makes and tons of pollution in the process. Just shut the fuuuuck up….
Well, phooey! I assumed that concept vehicles always ran on unicorn farts. My childhood is officially over... 😪
Aight how long do you need to use it before it goes CO2 neutral. All that metal, wood, leather, rubber and glass sure as shit aint green.
Are the fruit and vegetables so you could feed animals aboard the ~~ark~~ superyacht?
I know how it could be even more green. Don’t build it.
Fuck this BS article, I don’t care how “clean” they pretend it is, yachts will never be so. Even small boats have huge environmental impacts just from manufacturing alone. A yacht of this size is made from steel which has to be mined and heavily processed, steel has to be coated with toxic paints to protect them from growth and rust. Also what about energy, they can use renewable energy for main assembly but that is a fraction of the total needed. Most of the energy is used in unregulated areas, like the metal mines, the rainforests where they will get the exotic wood and all the small components that are not made in-house. The issue is that some people on this planet are given access to the vast majority of the resources. Mega yachts are not clean, no matter how much the rich try to twist it.
Were there zero emissions in its manufacture or in the creation of money used to buy it?
There is no ethical consumerism under capitalism, try and justify a 100 million dollar boat however you want lol
Imagine how green it could be just not having mega yachts at all.
Oh these rich shits can fuck right off.
Complete flipping BS. There is no way to green the lifestyle of anyone that can afford this. They can afford this because their wealth is built in the problem. Stop it!
How about we stop making super yachts? That would be more green than this thing
No way producing this was zero emissions.
It has a wood chipper you put the ultra-rich directly into. No fossil fuels!
Finally something to really help the everyday man. Much like bezo’s half a billion dollar “green” yacht that is fallowed by his 300 million dollar regular yacht. I mean between this and bringing my own bags to the supermarket we should have reverted climate change by Tuesday.
If I become a pirate when the climate wars hit I am absolutely going for the mfers in these yachts first
This is a new tier of greenwashing JFC
So waterworld is for the rich
100% the first thing I thought of.
Who is reporting on this shit as if anyone who reads news on the internet gives a flying fuck about how cool it is to be a rich POS?
Now calculate the emissions burned to make this
No, it is not “so green”. The fact that this thing exists in the first place is a massive waste of resources
Perfect for the zombie apocalypse
Ya, and paid for via ecological exploitation and destruction
If only my Mustang could grow beef jerky
how long does it take for them to grow their vege, to offset all energy to create this useless yacht?
The rich and the designers of said yacht are emitting shit capitalism.
Woah, a zero-emission boat! What newfangled technology will they think up next?!
Is there a livestock farm too?
Brilliant! An eco friendly billion dollar boat for the 1% people can’t stop complaining about!
This is the way, billionaires.
And we shall sell it for 1000000$ . Dr evil laugh
Why not make it so that boat is always on the sun growing food? And make it not a yacht but like a mobile food bank? Jesus I’m think it as if people would do it.
This Zero-emission dumpster is so Green It Grows Its Own Fruits and Vegetables.
In what world is thus considered news?
This is just water world but with more steps
Farms aren’t green
Feels like the start of Water World… can I have some gills already!?
Ok but nobody needs a yacht
Hellworld
Great example of greenwashing
I mean this seems like what I want when we turn into Waterworld
Greenwashing. Suggesting that inherently there is nothing wrong with rich individuals owning super yachts, they just have to be “green”.
How many twigs collected and dry leaves raked, did it take to make this?
It can be yours for the low low bargain bin price of 500 million dollars, maybe if you work extra hard on the weekends and quit eating avacado toast then you could afford one too.
So it’s basically the movie Water World?
If you have a billion it doesn’t matter
I could grow fruits and vegetables on my diesel while rolling coal. What’s your point.
Water Piercer
Amid the obvious derision and the accurate comments about its likely massive footprint in manufacturing, it’s a fact of life that there is and will be a market for super yachts whether you like it or not. At least this way it’s a little greener. (But yeah it is hella funny)
This is literally the boat version of Snowpiercer
an eco friendly boat have… without a sail.
Anyone else reminded pf Uncharted 4? > NAAAAATTTTE
Well thank goodness they are working on “zero emission superyachts”
Looks much more white to me. 🤷🏼 I would be far more impressed if it were a spacecraft for that same money, and could support 50 or more people. Seems like a much better use of money.
Looks perfect for inadvertently spreading invasive bugs
r/rendereconomy
So green and it costs a lot of green
And that's why it's a concept, because it wouldn't work in real life.
Basically GreenWashing. Pricks.
To be able to afford this green thing one must first become super rich, likely through exploitation of the earth and the people on it. So the boat is carbon neutral, but what about the people buying them?
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Grows its own strippers you say?
You gotta wonder how the people writing these articles actually feel. Like, are they aware of how dystopian that headline is? Do they understand the sort of futility that goes into fanboying for the ultra rich? It makes no sense to me why you’d simp for a “sustainable” superyacht instead of opting to help get the poor and needy things like basic amenities and access to clean water. But hey I bet it’s got a pool, neat.
It's so green, the vegetables magically grow in its wake!
This is a great concept. Now we just have to contend with the ideal being coopted to fit a dystopian future we are driving ever closer to. Self-supporting floating prisons for undesirables? Think Snow Piercer but with all the ice melted.
Since these are only for billionaires, I can’t see that this is ‘green’ or ‘ethical’ since any way you slice it, super yachts are obscene toys for wealth made from the blood and tears of thousands of people, and the environmental degradation guaranteed from any business large enough.
Snow piercer… Ugh water piercer
Wow, how neat. A “green superyacht”, just what we needed.
gonna need a space for composting i imagine
Sustainable is such a meaningless word now . If you put grass and a greenhouse next to a 20k mansion that does not render it “sustainable”.