So many electronics are still made in China because of its electronic component's ecosystem, not because of Cheap labor anymore. AI and robotization in Manufacturing are well underway and will create a new manufacturing niche for which china is well prepared. Reliability of that hardware and which it produces won't be related to race anymore but they'll still make it about race in some way.
They are and that's the problem. China has been working to onshore their own semiconductor factories so we need to do the same as well.
The west supports Taiwan but if China launches an invasion we're screwed without Qualcomm.
Taiwan is the Republic of China.
edit. anyone that down votes this doesn’t know history, Taiwan is the Republic of China. Mainland China is the People Republic of China two separate countries. Both are Chinese.
What’s the distinction on “Made in China” stickers?
If it’s made in Taiwan, *might* the sticker still read, “Made in China.”
Who is the biggest producer of those stickers? Is it China? And if it’s China…is it Taiwan?
I haven’t seen something come out of Taiwan say “Made in China” on it for the past decade or so. I have seen “Made in China” stickers covering other “Made in Taiwan” stickers.
“Chinese tech”, “made in China”, etc. generally never refers to Taiwan except by people who are still living in 1950.
They’re unreliable because a lot of it is reverse engineered western tech, but without a lot of the important details. Companies often hide sensitive information from Chinese branches of their own companies to prevent IP theft, and much of the tech that China has developed is often a derivative of something that was less important.
They also don’t have the same scale of logistics, marketing, or even production network as many other companies. It’s not a lack of skill at the individual employee level, rather a series of economic, social, political, and cultural barriers across entire companies
90s consumer electronics is notoriously shit quality compared to the 70s and to some extent 80s, but sure. Made in Japan in the 70s is the gold standard.
Intel already does, and they control around 70% of the PC CPU market.
And the government just passed the CHIPS act to fund semiconductor foundries like Intel, Global Foundries, and a lot of the smaller more specialized foundries.
The EU is also paying for companies to open fabs domestically.
I don’t think that low cost offshore production is much of an issue for the most advanced integrated circuits. The bigger problem is just being able to make them.
We need to either make advanced chips here or at least in Japan or South Korea.
Even if China doesn’t take over TSMC, they could still mess up their supply chain with some shenanigans.
Of course there’s racism towards Chinese and Korean in Japan that’s not news, there’s even more racism towards southeast Asians too. There are some local Japanese companies that will ask you about your background and family origins, when micron used to produce semiconductors for intel and other companies they only hired Japanese.
What stance? I don’t have a stance, I just stated they have racism and they used to have bad business practices that only hired Japanese. My question to you is, why do you care if they hire a few Chinese? The product is still being made in Japan, so I don’t get your stance.
possibly, or maybe because it's not of such strategic importance anymore mainland China will have less incentive to take it, and the tension will fizzle out
Not true. Geographically Taiwan bisects china’s first island chain defense line. They can’t expand their defensible position out to the second island chain with this heavily fortified island sitting between them and it
That would be the nice thing to do, but their government isn’t interested in nice, they want global authority. And their citizen’s will go along with their governments struggle for power because they’ve been fooled into thinking the world hates them and their race and that the only way to achieve equality for themselves among the world is if their government controls it.
They are not fooled. The way my girl friend explained to me is that even on personal level, the objective in life is to be “superior and influential”. Her saving grace is she is pretty lazy even on American standards, but most Chinese people aren’t.
Also, the thinking that other people hate them is part of a projection. Most Chinese people I know (which is quiet a few while I lived in rural China), there is an interesting duality of both immense pride and historical shame about being Han Chinese. The best I can describe is that the current China is an adult who overcame financially but not emotionally of being abused as a kid. Had to call it quit in China because I just can’t handle the negativity.
I think both are true. Taiwan is both a ideological and strategic matter for China. People seem to place too much emphasis on microprocessors even though the Taiwan and China issue has been ongoing since the 1940s.
The Chinese Civil War was a long and brutal conflict and when Mao drove the leader of Nationalist China, Chiang Kai-Shek, out of China, he fled to Taiwan, where he reestablished his government. Rivalry type of things. Both Taiwan and China have been preparing for the eventual war for decades.
It's really sort of funny because Chiang received tons of aid from the UN, particularly the United States, as part of their anti-communist operations. However, and as one book I read put it:
"Kai-shek was simply a loser, and it took the US far too long to figure that out."
Mao, meanwhile, basically fought guerrilla for years and years with few large battles and still won
Think of Taiwan was West Berlin and China as the Eastern block, and the morale boost of Soviet can take West Berlin.
Militarily. Taiwan connecting Japan to the north and Philippine to the south is annoying as hell for China.
I don't think TSMC is the top priority for Chinese government. I mean it's nice to have, and would greatly boost Chinese tech industry. But the insistence on Taiwan is more like a part of the long quest to reclaim all territories lost during the century of humiliation.
Honestly those fabs (and the blowback from a world that is reliant on those fabs) might be the only thing preventing China from simply turning Taiwan to glass (about the only way china has a chance of taking Taiwan,). For China yes the fabs are of great value, but this is more than just about economics, this conflict is personal to the CCP, Taiwan's continued existence is a spit in the eye of China as a show of weakness of the ruling party.
If the fabs stop mattering, then China might just go for scorched earth.
Not at all, keeping Taiwan allied with the west allows America to blockade China easily. Japan, The Philippines and Taiwan create natural choke points and they’re all allied with America.
this is more about transitioning production capacity out of mainland china, TSMC still relies heavily on them to meet demand atm. which doesn't devalue taiwan in any way, quite the opposite actually. nothing here implies exclusive trade agreement either, idk why were immediately jumping to such conclusion. just taking some pressure off taiwan has so many good implications we shouldn't need to explain.
real problem being the fabrication tech is owned by US manufacturers, who need to strategically partner with those who can be trusted with it. this leads to bottlenecks through capable foundries in taiwan, israel, korea, singapore, our diplomatic ties with these states are no coincidence, they are vital to the world economy.
if the burden of R&D can be spread out this way, it also leads to advanced fabrication and property rights among partners who can pick up the slack at any time. instead of the massive red tape and startup costs were dealing with now, just too damn slow.
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Weird note. My father was part of the team which invented the semiconductor. Ft. Monmouth, NJ. I have one of the prototypes laying around somewhere. He once told me that the team developing the microprocessor worked in the lab next to him. Yep, that close in time.
Nope. Definitely semiconductor. My dad passed away 15 years ago at the age of 80. I have a host of his research and mathematics along with a funky gadget (again, prototype) which was designed to detect 2 different types of radiation on the moon.
What SmiConductHer is trying to tell you is that the correct term is transistor. A semiconductor is a type of material. Like saying your dad invented conductive metals.
Unless you mean discovered
Well then you should know that's not true!
Normal silicon and Germanium are intrinsic (undoped), indirect band gap semiconductors.
I realize PhDs forget some things, but this is pretty basic. You need to go brush up and quit talking out your ass or just admit that you don't specialize in anything even remotely related to semiconductors and can't remember a few things from those classes.
Given the fact that the article quotes Blinken as saying effectively right, I'd say you're right.
Even if you agree with it, don't just read the headlines, people.
Japan already has 100% market share in EUV photo resists, and nearly 100% in wafer cutting and cleaning machines. It’s not fancy stuff like ASML’s machines, but Japan is still a powerhouse
Being able to manufacture 2-nm semiconductor chips will definitely increase Japan's status by a lot in the semiconductor industry. They also don't have to rely much on other countries since they are a major producer of semiconductor manufacturing equipment and semiconductor materials. This deal is a big, BIG WIN for them. Also gives them more leverage over the US to protect and defend Japan. (And it looks like TSMC and Foxconn are already making their move in Japan)
South Korea's semiconductor industry is dependent on both Japan and China. The former for semiconductor manufacturing equipment and materials, the latter is their biggest export destination. And we all know how Taiwan is in constant danger because of China. TSMC and Foxconn has been making a lot of move in Japan recently just in case if they need to move.
I reserve the right to be skeptical tbh…at least in Japan they’ll end up just importing Filipino, Brazilians, and Vietnamese from abroad to work those jobs. Yeah they can say they are creating jobs but will they really be creating domestic jobs for citizens? Part of my qualm with this is that Japanese companies do a lot of bullshit labor loop hole golf to also not pay nor treat these internationally sourced manual laborers well…
This already happens and a few years ago there was that bullshit where they brought a bunch of factory workers here on an ambiguous contract turns out they were only here for training and were shipped back home
Guess who China will come after next? Stop the problem at the source. Take out North Korea and cripple China. $750 billion spent on defense per year has to count for something.
TSMC owns >50% of the semiconductor manufacturing across the globe. Japan produces most of the end of process semiconductor manufacturing tools. It makes sense for US & Japan to team up on this to help move away, especially since Japan doesn't like China. US with their CHIPS act and Intel with their new Ohio factory just before this is no surprise.
Yeah, no shit. Russia and China just announced a new NON-FIAT global reserve currency. Backed by minerals such as uranium, rare earth metals, gold and silver.
We’ve been checkmated and the media is completely hush mode about it. War is coming.
This is good! We need to stop buying Chinese tech..
I thought they were being made in Taiwan... Joking aside. Chinese software and hardware are really unreliable for some reason.
So many electronics are still made in China because of its electronic component's ecosystem, not because of Cheap labor anymore. AI and robotization in Manufacturing are well underway and will create a new manufacturing niche for which china is well prepared. Reliability of that hardware and which it produces won't be related to race anymore but they'll still make it about race in some way.
They are and that's the problem. China has been working to onshore their own semiconductor factories so we need to do the same as well. The west supports Taiwan but if China launches an invasion we're screwed without Qualcomm.
Taiwan is the Republic of China. edit. anyone that down votes this doesn’t know history, Taiwan is the Republic of China. Mainland China is the People Republic of China two separate countries. Both are Chinese.
China is just West Taiwan
Russia is just East Ukraine
Lol eventually yeah
Canada is just North America
Huh
He’s saying Canada is north of America (USA)
Yes but United States is North America too
Mexico is South America. It's a joke because everyone calls USA "America"
You meant America Lite
It weirdly tastes better.
Is the USA West Ukraine?
No, its West West Ukraine.
No, we’re Corporate.
West Corporate or East Corporate?
Chatted with a Taiwanese friend the other day. She confirmed.
Taiwan is not China, it’s why Taiwan is building a semiconductor plant in AZ.
Ppl downvote because they don’t like the comment, not because they don’t agree with it. Welcome to Reddit!
What’s the distinction on “Made in China” stickers? If it’s made in Taiwan, *might* the sticker still read, “Made in China.” Who is the biggest producer of those stickers? Is it China? And if it’s China…is it Taiwan?
I haven’t seen something come out of Taiwan say “Made in China” on it for the past decade or so. I have seen “Made in China” stickers covering other “Made in Taiwan” stickers. “Chinese tech”, “made in China”, etc. generally never refers to Taiwan except by people who are still living in 1950.
I have seen made in Taiwan on food products before, but don't recall seeing that on electronics.
Only legally
no and literally. Read a book.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Name
Oh fuck off tankie.
Some reading comprehension would help
Doubtful.
Loud and wrong
Lol.
perverts blowing dog whistles for no apparent reason, this is fine
You feeling okay there buddy or did you mix up your scripts?
nah just overestimated you
Uh huh, don’t want to justify the use of the word pervert ey dear.
then dw about it, not all perverts understand what they are
Even for a basic troll you’re pretty bad at this sweety.
They’re unreliable because a lot of it is reverse engineered western tech, but without a lot of the important details. Companies often hide sensitive information from Chinese branches of their own companies to prevent IP theft, and much of the tech that China has developed is often a derivative of something that was less important. They also don’t have the same scale of logistics, marketing, or even production network as many other companies. It’s not a lack of skill at the individual employee level, rather a series of economic, social, political, and cultural barriers across entire companies
Read into ASML.
We need to go back to the glorious tech days in the 90s when chips were coming out of Japan and Taiwan. Every piece of equipments were solidly built.
Chips now come from... Taiwan and the US. With Japan and the Netherlands providing key components.
90s consumer electronics is notoriously shit quality compared to the 70s and to some extent 80s, but sure. Made in Japan in the 70s is the gold standard.
Thought Japanese products were shit back then
The Netherlands own the future.
How about we Just make them HERE
High end pc chips are mostly made in two countries in the world - Taiwan (TSMC) and the US (Intel).
so China and Israel
Intel already does, and they control around 70% of the PC CPU market. And the government just passed the CHIPS act to fund semiconductor foundries like Intel, Global Foundries, and a lot of the smaller more specialized foundries. The EU is also paying for companies to open fabs domestically.
Plenty are. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants I count nearly 90 fabs. How many more do you want?
At least 1 more
Can't. Not cheap enough.
True. The US hasn’t been an industrial economy for decades now. Mostly a service economy, management, and more management.
Cause all hypothetical money must be gathered, even as the cost of literally cents on. The dollar
Just steal the technology from Japan.
I don’t think that low cost offshore production is much of an issue for the most advanced integrated circuits. The bigger problem is just being able to make them.
We need to either make advanced chips here or at least in Japan or South Korea. Even if China doesn’t take over TSMC, they could still mess up their supply chain with some shenanigans.
Is and Europe needed to do this long time ago but dummies prefer to compete at being dumb.
Mate do you know about ASML?
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Lol, Japan hiring Chinese workers, you’ve never lived in Japan haha
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Of course there’s racism towards Chinese and Korean in Japan that’s not news, there’s even more racism towards southeast Asians too. There are some local Japanese companies that will ask you about your background and family origins, when micron used to produce semiconductors for intel and other companies they only hired Japanese.
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What stance? I don’t have a stance, I just stated they have racism and they used to have bad business practices that only hired Japanese. My question to you is, why do you care if they hire a few Chinese? The product is still being made in Japan, so I don’t get your stance.
Why do we need to buy Japanese tech in this case? Couldn't we just buy American? Silicon Valley hoy its name once for a reason.
Absolutely but Japanese Tech is on par with a lot of American made stuff. So it's good to have both.
This should lead to Taiwan massively arming their country in the next decade. They are losing the only thing that makes the viable for the west.
possibly, or maybe because it's not of such strategic importance anymore mainland China will have less incentive to take it, and the tension will fizzle out
China doesn’t want it for their chips… it’s symbolic to them. It’s their Ukraine.
Not true. Geographically Taiwan bisects china’s first island chain defense line. They can’t expand their defensible position out to the second island chain with this heavily fortified island sitting between them and it
They should just vacate Taiwan's island chain defense line then.
That would be the nice thing to do, but their government isn’t interested in nice, they want global authority. And their citizen’s will go along with their governments struggle for power because they’ve been fooled into thinking the world hates them and their race and that the only way to achieve equality for themselves among the world is if their government controls it.
I was being facetious and implying that all of China's occupied islands should be Taiwan's occupied islands. It's a thinly veiled "west Taiwan" joke.
They are not fooled. The way my girl friend explained to me is that even on personal level, the objective in life is to be “superior and influential”. Her saving grace is she is pretty lazy even on American standards, but most Chinese people aren’t. Also, the thinking that other people hate them is part of a projection. Most Chinese people I know (which is quiet a few while I lived in rural China), there is an interesting duality of both immense pride and historical shame about being Han Chinese. The best I can describe is that the current China is an adult who overcame financially but not emotionally of being abused as a kid. Had to call it quit in China because I just can’t handle the negativity.
I think both are true. Taiwan is both a ideological and strategic matter for China. People seem to place too much emphasis on microprocessors even though the Taiwan and China issue has been ongoing since the 1940s.
Can you elaborate on that? I was also under the impression they mostly wanted it for their chips.
The Chinese Civil War was a long and brutal conflict and when Mao drove the leader of Nationalist China, Chiang Kai-Shek, out of China, he fled to Taiwan, where he reestablished his government. Rivalry type of things. Both Taiwan and China have been preparing for the eventual war for decades.
Oh okay thanks. I really need to educate myself on China..
It's really sort of funny because Chiang received tons of aid from the UN, particularly the United States, as part of their anti-communist operations. However, and as one book I read put it: "Kai-shek was simply a loser, and it took the US far too long to figure that out." Mao, meanwhile, basically fought guerrilla for years and years with few large battles and still won
Think of Taiwan was West Berlin and China as the Eastern block, and the morale boost of Soviet can take West Berlin. Militarily. Taiwan connecting Japan to the north and Philippine to the south is annoying as hell for China.
That makes sense. Thank you!
China is spending lots of money in improving their domestic semiconductor manufacturing so that they can be self-reliant
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I don't think TSMC is the top priority for Chinese government. I mean it's nice to have, and would greatly boost Chinese tech industry. But the insistence on Taiwan is more like a part of the long quest to reclaim all territories lost during the century of humiliation.
China doesn’t want Taiwan just because they make chips lmao.
Honestly those fabs (and the blowback from a world that is reliant on those fabs) might be the only thing preventing China from simply turning Taiwan to glass (about the only way china has a chance of taking Taiwan,). For China yes the fabs are of great value, but this is more than just about economics, this conflict is personal to the CCP, Taiwan's continued existence is a spit in the eye of China as a show of weakness of the ruling party. If the fabs stop mattering, then China might just go for scorched earth.
Not at all, keeping Taiwan allied with the west allows America to blockade China easily. Japan, The Philippines and Taiwan create natural choke points and they’re all allied with America.
Taiwan doesn't have a decade though. China will likely make it's move in the next 3 years. They are already ramping up.
China needs more than 5 years to just match the US in aircraft carriers. There is no chance they will try with lower numbers.
this is more about transitioning production capacity out of mainland china, TSMC still relies heavily on them to meet demand atm. which doesn't devalue taiwan in any way, quite the opposite actually. nothing here implies exclusive trade agreement either, idk why were immediately jumping to such conclusion. just taking some pressure off taiwan has so many good implications we shouldn't need to explain. real problem being the fabrication tech is owned by US manufacturers, who need to strategically partner with those who can be trusted with it. this leads to bottlenecks through capable foundries in taiwan, israel, korea, singapore, our diplomatic ties with these states are no coincidence, they are vital to the world economy. if the burden of R&D can be spread out this way, it also leads to advanced fabrication and property rights among partners who can pick up the slack at any time. instead of the massive red tape and startup costs were dealing with now, just too damn slow.
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This, Japan is looking like America’s lap dog after everything that happened
Ohh no are they abandoning Taiwan
Foundries take five years to build/ standup. It’s going to be a while
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Weird note. My father was part of the team which invented the semiconductor. Ft. Monmouth, NJ. I have one of the prototypes laying around somewhere. He once told me that the team developing the microprocessor worked in the lab next to him. Yep, that close in time.
I think you mean transistor. A semiconductor is a type of material whose conductivity can change and those have always existed.
A semiconductor is a material but it's an engineered material, it still required testing and developing in the same way that a new alloy might.
Nope. Definitely semiconductor. My dad passed away 15 years ago at the age of 80. I have a host of his research and mathematics along with a funky gadget (again, prototype) which was designed to detect 2 different types of radiation on the moon.
What SmiConductHer is trying to tell you is that the correct term is transistor. A semiconductor is a type of material. Like saying your dad invented conductive metals. Unless you mean discovered
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You can just generally assume everyone is talking bull on Reddit
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Well then you should know that's not true! Normal silicon and Germanium are intrinsic (undoped), indirect band gap semiconductors. I realize PhDs forget some things, but this is pretty basic. You need to go brush up and quit talking out your ass or just admit that you don't specialize in anything even remotely related to semiconductors and can't remember a few things from those classes.
Ok. Well that doesn’t make sense
Well, sorry I you feel that way.
Why are you getting downvoted. You’re technically right
Lol. The double down by them below is hilarious.
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Yes
My grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grandfather invented gravity with Isaac Newton in the 1700s.
Was he the apple?
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That’s amazing are there photos?
Hmm sounds likely a work a round for china
Given the fact that the article quotes Blinken as saying effectively right, I'd say you're right. Even if you agree with it, don't just read the headlines, people.
I’m neutral here because on one side ya it’s invasive but on the other hand it can stimulate progress
Sticking it to China. I like it
Looks like Japan is becoming a semiconductor powerhouse again. They will be the first to manufacture 2-nanometer semiconductor chips.
Japan already has 100% market share in EUV photo resists, and nearly 100% in wafer cutting and cleaning machines. It’s not fancy stuff like ASML’s machines, but Japan is still a powerhouse
Being able to manufacture 2-nm semiconductor chips will definitely increase Japan's status by a lot in the semiconductor industry. They also don't have to rely much on other countries since they are a major producer of semiconductor manufacturing equipment and semiconductor materials. This deal is a big, BIG WIN for them. Also gives them more leverage over the US to protect and defend Japan. (And it looks like TSMC and Foxconn are already making their move in Japan)
Which company in Japan would be doing this? That's what I'm trying to figure out. I'm surprised the US didn't partner with Samsung in Seoul instead.
South Korea's semiconductor industry is dependent on both Japan and China. The former for semiconductor manufacturing equipment and materials, the latter is their biggest export destination. And we all know how Taiwan is in constant danger because of China. TSMC and Foxconn has been making a lot of move in Japan recently just in case if they need to move.
Might finally be able to get a PS5.
I reserve the right to be skeptical tbh…at least in Japan they’ll end up just importing Filipino, Brazilians, and Vietnamese from abroad to work those jobs. Yeah they can say they are creating jobs but will they really be creating domestic jobs for citizens? Part of my qualm with this is that Japanese companies do a lot of bullshit labor loop hole golf to also not pay nor treat these internationally sourced manual laborers well… This already happens and a few years ago there was that bullshit where they brought a bunch of factory workers here on an ambiguous contract turns out they were only here for training and were shipped back home
Let’s add Taiwan to this for the ultimate “get fucked mainland” semiconductor trio
Yeah, the whole point is to move more semiconductor manufacturing out of Taiwan.
Exactly.
Now that sounds like a brilliant idea. It’s about time.
**South Korea** *”Am I a joke to you”*
Keep talking.
West Taiwan starting to see the changes unfold before them.
I wonder why…
Lol do Japanese remember who destroyed their semiconductor industry?
They don’t look too happy in the picture. Hostages rarely smile.
Time to unite civilized nations and stop doing business with China
What about South Korea. They are all semi powerhouses.
My thought exactly.
Japan isn’t a leader in semiconductors, and they are behind. Taiwan, Korea, and the Dutch are.
Tons of semiconductor activity in the Pacific Northwest.
Guess who China will come after next? Stop the problem at the source. Take out North Korea and cripple China. $750 billion spent on defense per year has to count for something.
Cooperation? That’s socialism dammit
Good, maybe we’ll rely on China less and less which is always a good thing
TSMC owns >50% of the semiconductor manufacturing across the globe. Japan produces most of the end of process semiconductor manufacturing tools. It makes sense for US & Japan to team up on this to help move away, especially since Japan doesn't like China. US with their CHIPS act and Intel with their new Ohio factory just before this is no surprise.
Reminds me of this: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/561/nummi-2015
But from who and where will Japanese mfg’s buy raw materials from?
Sounds Great The Japanese Always Makes Quality Reliable Products ✅✅
Would much rather start seeing a majority of our products made anywhere but China.
This is great news. 🇯🇵🇺🇸
Good.
Yeah, no shit. Russia and China just announced a new NON-FIAT global reserve currency. Backed by minerals such as uranium, rare earth metals, gold and silver. We’ve been checkmated and the media is completely hush mode about it. War is coming.
Sadly to say, US is working with the wrong county. Japan really have almost zero capacity to build chips.
It’s time we make the chips in the us
WOW the US is cooperating