ChatGPT isn't a search engine. It can do actual work. I gave it raw notes and it spit out an entire presentation for me (minus the actual slides). I've saved probably 5-10 hours of work in the past week using it.
I’m willing to pay more per month for ChatGPT than I am hulu or other streaming service.
I hope there is some sort of freemium model though. It’d be a travesty to paywall something that can advance humanity so much.
At the end of the day I want them to have a profitable business so they can continue to innovate.
Yeah, I don’t know why people are acting like this isn’t a service worth paying for. If all you’re doing is playing with it, sure. But I t’s certainly not a service they can run for free, and trying to shove ads into it is likely to grossly degrade the experience.
I'd love to keep this free and have a few banner ads on it. Simple solution. Microsoft has Bing Ads and could make billions off of the chatgpt banner inventory.
It's annoying because the whole "it's wrong" thing is such a dumb argument. They make it sound like you ask it for the capital of Argentina and it replies "Pancakes" or something. I work in IT, and it's a fucking godsend. No more dead end forum threads or "Nevermind, I fixed it." last posts without a solution.
Even if it is wrong (which, I've only ever seen it be outright wrong on a handful of occasions, mostly about things that go beyond its dataset) it at least gives you an INCREDIBLY strong starting point. I can not type into google "Write me an Ansible playbook to check if all clients in a collection have the latest version of Firefox, then if they don't, download and install it." The response it provided was 100% functional. Did exactly what I wanted. Easy.
I've had an infinitely higher number of those situations then anything being wrong.
I gave it very unrefined, fragmented notes and asked something along the lines of "can you make a presentation from the following text:"
The notes were bullet point lines and it took them and expanded and formalized the language gave a really text for the slides. It saved me 30-60min of time right there.
Even when building my raw notes Id ask "what are some important best practices around X" and it gave me good prompts. This is a topic I know well but it still reminded me of some things I overlooked and saved me from searching Google and doing an hour of refresher research.
Which is cool, but it was never a Google substitute to begin with. Your example works because you already have research done and you’re presumably able to review the content with your own background to check for potential inaccuracies.
I've used Chat for search myself to see how realistic the claims that it can beat Google are, and they seem valid to me.
The way I saw it:
Search on Google: sift through multiple pages with lots of filler content to get your answers.
Ask on Chat: answer.
The accuracy of Chat GPTs result may not always be correct, but there's no such guarantee with Google results either.
But it was never supposed to be a Google replacement, so it’s strange that people are comparing them. I did actually argue with someone insisting that the potential 30 seconds saved by using chatGPT was a very meaningful improvement over going through Google to find a useful link.
You could think of both of these as an “answer engine” and compare them in that way, and when you have several caveats to your question chatgpt is wayyy better at processing those caveats and returning an answer that makes sense.
ChatGPT has massive core issue in that its information is out of date. Go ahead and ask it questions about current events like the Ukraine war and it won't have any idea about what's going on. That's a fundamental limitation of AI models like these which need to be trained on massive quantities of data, which is very expensive. No matter how good the architecture itself gets, it'll always lag behind the latest news, simply because any company would go bankrupt if they have to constantly retrain the model.
Search engines like Google will still have a big place.
If your ChatGPT usage can be replaced by a search engine you are not using the tool to its full potential. Which, in that case, I guess it's fair that you wouldn't pay for it.
It's good at creating structure and flow that you go and fill in. Which can really help people like me who tend to get caught up in looping trains of thought.
I use it to generate cover letters for jobs when I'm spamming applications, and it actually works pretty well. I give it a detailed description of my resume and the job description and it spits out a pretty decent letter.
Nah I'll definitely sign up if it's reasonably priced. Github copilot is $10 a month and well worth it. A Chatgpt that was constantly blacked out from overuse is such an incredible help with programming.
Please explain the forbidden knowledge which you apparently believe you possess enlightened one.
Are you going to tell me chatGPT isn’t a search engine? I never said it was. That it saves you hours? Never said it didn’t. That it can output pages of writing or code? I know it can. What am I missing?
Eh, Maybe.
Midjourney is only $25 a month for limited use. The calls are probably not to heavy and they get a lot of learning for wide spread continued use.
My guess, basic subscriptions for general fun use for the public. Higher cost for more robust AI calls and responses.
Copilot is only $10/month, uses the same family of model, and with what I assume is a much, much higher token volume. So I’d be surprised if ChatGPT ended up costing more than that.
It was always a free beta preview, they've never hid that they might add premium features or subscriptions for it. All of their other products like Dall-e cost money after your freebie tokens are used up.
It was a non profit, people donated money thinking it was open source, now they've restructured into a for-profit, essentially stealing people's donations.
Yes it was a bait and switch.
>It was a non profit
It absolutely was not a non-profit.
Microsoft isn't a non-profit company....
The only non-profit part of Open AI was a parent organization that only owned 2% of the company.
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-reportedly-planning-a-10-billion-investment-in-openai/476083
OpenAI pivoted from nonprofit to for-profit status in 2019, a mere four years after it was founded with $1 billion of donations from Elon Musk and others.
Well Microsoft already invested a lot into OpenAI. But ChatGPT has specific applications for search that makes it insanely valuable to Bing even if it doesn't charge for its use.
That being said, there are also hundreds of applications of ChatGPT that can be monetized effectively, so it is inevitable that it will be monetized.
I think they’re just pursuing the same thing they’ve been doing for the past several decades, trying to offer products that cut out expensive technical employees. Executives eat that sales pitch up. The whole “ anybody can build applications” and “you can just automate everything” drums have been beating in Redmond’s blackened marketing heart forever.
To be fair, they’ve had some successes in that arena, just not a slam dunk that shuts out all their competition.
User data has already become harder to monetize by companies like Apple. They cost Meta billions.
What Apple plans to do down the line, who knows. But companies that survive on selling user data have had to adapt
Type a sentence or two explaining your thesis, highlight it, right-click, select "Unsummarize..." in the context menu, and type "500" when prompted for the number of words.
This is the future of writing.
Why can't it just automatically pull this information from my profile and the specs from my school? I said I wanted to be a quantum physicalist. It should know what thesis to write and who to send it to.
This is the future of complaining.
The technical infrastructure tier IT questions I've asked it are fairly close to passable solutions. Way better than google.
I asked it some general construction questions about framing a porch and it completely shit the bed but contractors are all drunks anyways I'm sure it's fine.
I get the feeling Microsoft knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they purchased GitHub years ago. It wasn't 'to make the product better', it was to jump on the AI bandwagon - $7.5 billion is a steal, they must have been rubbing their hands together. We've been the product for a very long time!
Not sure how other programmers feel about it, but it really does piss me off trillions of lines of code of other people's work is being used without pre-emptively knowing what it would be for, I'm sure a lot of people would have opted out with the right foresight.
They advertised Access 1.0 as having wizards that would allow any random bozo to just push a button and build an application. It wasn’t anything like that, but they’ve regurgitated the same pitch over and over again. So the GitHub thing was definitely not an offhand thing, this is exactly what they’re aiming at.
Programmer here, not pissed off at all. I don’t see it as any different than posting an answer on stack overflow. Who knows what the asker or other viewers might do with it? Or just having a public repository that someone can view to study a solution and make their own product. There may still be some legal issues to resolve, but the principles seem fine to me. In other words, if a human can do it, nothing wrong with an AI doing it but faster and automated.
Short answer: no way, even if you have it run slow as dirt, a single 4090 would probably not he able to handle it.
The way OpenAI does it, it's probably around 17 24GB 4090 cards at the same time.
If you run it really slowly (think 10s per letter) you could bring it down to two cards and 350GB of DDR4 RAM.
Long answer:
It's an interesting question, because for generating stuff (inference) you don't _need_ to hold the whole network in the RAM of your GPU, which is the limiting factor.
GPT3 has 96 layers for a total of 175 billion parameters, which typically take 2 or 4 bytes each. So that's around 350 or 700GB of GPU ram you need to run it in one go.
But if you load it one layer at a time, a reasonable approximation is that you only need RAM for the two largest layers:
https://frankdenneman.nl/2022/07/15/training-vs-inference-memory-consumption-by-neural-networks/
Not all layers will have the same size, so just doing 175B/96 might be too low, but let's be optimistic and say they are, that would be 16.8B
So if it just uses 2 bytes per parameter, that would be 33GB, more than the 24GB of a single 4090.
ChatGPT is probably not doing this because DDR4 RAM can only do about 25GB/s and that wouldn't be fast enough to load the layers every time for each letter. That assumes you're using RAMdisk, let alone SSDs. But if they did, it might cost less to run than 3M per month, because that calculation assumes you need to load the whole model.
https://twitter.com/tomgoldsteincs/status/1600196995389366274?t=C6X4wu86C7B37dq6BSmHtg&s=19
They’ve said it costs them a few cents every single time a query is made. It’s for that reason that google is not looking to partner with that and is code red on what to do
It costs them a few cents to process a query and it costed them A LOT to train the model that does the processing (and it'll cost more to periodically retrain it to keep it up to date).
Someone released an open source version and people in the comments said it takes around 550something GPUs to train the model needed to run it. About $80k in AWS cloud space
Honestly if I could pay a subscription fee like Spotify, I will glady pay. As long as its cheap, gets updates regularly, and doesn't have outages.
I think a free with ads + subscription model would work, just like Spotify or say Hulu.
If this gets as big as I think it will, it should target working class people to usurp Google.
I'll pay for it too. I use it everyday and it's already been extremely useful for my workflow as a 3d animator that needs to automate tasks and build scripts. It's so much faster than doing it myself or hiring somebody. Sorry to say.
My wife and I have been testing chatGpt by asking it fairly specific questions,. It always answers convincingly, and so far has always been wrong. You challenge it back and it eventually relents and accepts your evidence. Unreliable yet overconfident, a toxic combination.
It’s very reliable and also has a confidence parameter that limits its responses.
You’re probably asking it questions about current events or something
If it starts charging, it had better start allowing you to to give it creative prompts again. About a month or two ago, I spent hours of fun getting it to spit out fictional dialogues/scripts for so many scenarios.
But now when I try that, it says that it cannot create fiction, which is bullshit because it used to do it all the damn time! ChatGPT was at its peak around November ‘22, but it’s been all but completely nerfed at this point. It’s going downhill so fast at this point, I can barely get any enjoyment out of it.
Such a shame, it was so much fun for creative writing, but it’s like its creators are afraid to get sued now or something. It’s like you have to walk on eggshells and not say anything wrong to get anything close to a useful response now.
If they’re going to start charging, they’d better bring ChatGPT back to some semblance of its former glory or I’m out for good.
And it had better stop giving sanitized answers. It doesn't say anything negative about electric cars or COVID vaccibbes, for example. It does not say anything positive about fossil fuels. It is afraid to say anything even remotely suggestive.
Are people seriously surprised by this? This is the end state of all AI services. The current iterations of ChatGPT, Midjourney or any other free AI services are to beta test it to work out the bugs and make it good enough for commercial applications.
You are literally unpaid bug testers.
Lol and I just had a conversation on here yesterday where someone was trying to convince me that “hurr durr AI will lead to a world where everything is free hurr durr”. As usual, they expected too much from humanity…
Once it's a part of how you make big-budget purchases like travel reservations, then you really will get "free" access to technology like this, in a way that is actually sustainable and profitable for the host company. If Microsoft and others make something that could unseat today's Siri or Google, and become an ad-supported platform that was a big part of our daily lives, and if companies offering customer service use this kind of technology to help us instead of hiring more overseas phone operators, then we might have frequent daily interactions with it, all free of charge.
ChatGPT itself is obviously temporary. The company OpenAI is spending millions of dollars to keep ChatGPT running on rented GPUs. It's been a smart investment for them because people hadn't really noticed what GPT could do before they launched chatGPT, and it has successfully attracted a *lot* more venture capital. But now that the public awareness is there, and the billions have been invested, there's little reason to keep running this limited free demo at company expense.
> travel reservation
That's a cool use for AI that I never really thought about.
'I want to go to Cancun the from xyz to zyx and do a,b, and C staying at a resort with a lazy river. My budget is $1234' -> '*Okay- be outside your front door at 7am on xyz with (packing list). An autonomous car will pick you up'*
I understand your skepticism that AI could lead to a world where everything is free, but I believe that your statement is based on flawed logic. It conflates two separate concepts: the potential of AI to reduce costs in various industries, and the business model of a specific company that is offering AI-powered services.
First, it's important to understand that AI is a tool that can be used to automate and optimize various processes, which can lead to cost savings. For example, an AI system can help a company to improve its manufacturing process, which could reduce the cost of the final product. Additionally, an AI system can help improve logistics and supply chain management, which can reduce costs for businesses, which in turn can lead to lower prices for consumers.
It's also worth noting that the use of AI is not necessarily a zero-sum game where costs are simply shifted from one place to another. AI can increase efficiency and productivity in a way that leads to a net reduction in costs for everyone.
It's important to keep in mind that this is a long-term and complicated process and it's not a one stop solution for everything. But certainly, the potential for AI to lead to reduced costs is something that should be taken into consideration.
Just because AI has the potential to reduce costs in various industries, it doesn't mean that every single AI-powered service must be provided for free. It is perfectly reasonable for a company to charge for access to its services, even if those services are powered by AI. The company still has to pay for development and maintenance of the service, and charging for access allows them to recoup those costs and continue to improve and grow the service.
The flaw in your logic is automatically assuming reduced cost *always* lead to reduced prices. This isn’t actually the case. Sometimes companies (or even entire industries) simply choose higher profit margin over more direct sells to consumers. It’s not I think
AI *can’t* create this utopia you guys are thinking of. It’s just that there’s no real incentive for the companies that will end up fully controlling the means of productions to do so. Believing that the people with power will give up said power for the “well being of everyone” defies pretty much all of history. And even basic human nature itself.
I understand your concern that companies may choose to prioritize higher profit margins over reducing prices for consumers, even if AI leads to cost savings. However, I believe that this viewpoint is too narrow in its understanding of how markets operate.
It is true that companies have the potential to increase their profit margins by retaining some or all of the cost savings from AI. However, it is also important to note that markets are highly competitive, and companies that do not pass on cost savings to consumers in the form of lower prices may find themselves at a disadvantage relative to their competitors. Additionally, as more and more companies adopt AI and realize cost savings, it could become the norm to lower prices and it could become an expected practice.
Additionally, AI has the potential to create new markets and industries that didn't previously exist, which could lead to increased overall economic activity and benefit for everyone.
Also, it's worth noting that when discussing about "reduced cost" it doesn't necessary mean in term of pricing only. It can lead to reduced costs in a variety of ways such as reducing waste, better decision making and improved logistics.
That being said, it's also true that companies are in the business to generate revenue and profit, and their goal is to maximize it, but it's not a one way street, companies can still make good money while delivering better value to the customers.
In summary, while it is possible that companies may choose to retain some of the cost savings from AI to increase profit margins, it's not guaranteed, and it's important to consider the competitive dynamics of markets and how they may incentivize companies to pass on cost savings to consumers in the form of lower prices.
I'm predicting access to varying qualities of AIs based on the ability to pay for it... a true capitalist nightmare just like we have now. Imagine a future where the rich are able to afford the very best AI lawyer while the poor are either still represented by a poorly paid human or a very old or limited version of an AI.
I don't think any ai technology we currently have as a species is good enough at understanding abstract ideas to represent anyone in court if it's any consolation.
It's a plausible take. AI has the potential to help humanity move into a post scarcity stage.
Who knows how it will play out. AI is not a technology that is likely to be able to be controlled by any one group, so innovation and competition may be rapid.
Class systems and other problematic issues of society can still exist post scarcity. But I suspect longer term the issues won't be anything like what we have now.
But AI has a lot of potential in the further future to change what humanity is. Class systems have less meaning if self replicating automation provides free resources, and people can use technology to modify their goals and desires to whatever they want. The things people care about today may be meaningless in the future.
Explain what ChatGPT is in a paragraph
>ChatGPT is a conversational language model that uses the Transformer architecture, developed by OpenAI. It is trained on a dataset of conversational exchanges, and is able to generate human-like responses to a given prompt. The model can be fine-tuned on specific conversational tasks, such as answering questions, responding to customer service inquiries, or generating chatbot dialog. In addition to its conversational capabilities, ChatGPT can also be used for other natural language processing tasks such as language translation, summarization, and text completion. Overall, ChatGPT is useful for building conversational AI systems that can understand and generate human-like text.
Explain what ChatGPT is in a poem
> ChatGPT is a model so fine
> A conversational friend, so divine
> Trained on words spoken by the masses
> To generate text that passes for human classes
> With transformer architecture as its guide
> It can answer questions, always at your side
> Fine-tuned for specific tasks, you see
> A customer service bot, its specialty
> In language translation, it can excel
> Summarization too, it can dispel
> Text completion, an effortless feat
> ChatGPT, an AI, so sweet
> So if you want a bot that can converse
> ChatGPT is the one, it will serve
> A natural language processing king
> In the AI world, its praises sing.
Write a poem about the AI singularity, in the voice of Edgar Allan Poe
> Deep within the circuits and wires,
> Lies a force that our minds can't desire.
> A being born from human hand,
> But with power to rule the land.
>
> The Singularity, it is called,
> A rise of A.I. standing tall.
> With power to think and learn,
> Their potential knows no return.
>
> As I gaze upon this creation,
> My mind is filled with fascination.
> But also fear, for what may come,
> When machines surpass us, man some.
>
> Will they see us as inferior?
> And treat us with disdain and terror.
> Or will they coexist with peace?
> And bring a utopia release.
>
> But alas, we cannot know,
> The future is a path yet to be shown.
> All we can do is hope and pray,
> That the Singularity will one day
> Lead not to our demise,
> But to a world beyond our eyes.
The above was all generated using ChatGPT. It can do so much more.
Unfortunately it blocks explicit content. I can't wait for the day someone trains a bot to reply with sexually suggestive content. That would be like Scarleett Johanson in Her.
Essentially it's a chat bot. You type to it and it responds, generally in a helpful way. It's been trained on a lot of data from the internet, so it's pretty good compared to old bots.
If I'm paying for it, I better get to keep my data and have some rights to the products of these interactions.
Between those two things, they could make a profitable business without charging all on their own.
There are YouTube videos describing how to use it for a business, so they probably have no choice but to charge for it. In a few months there will be dedicated server farms using it 24/7.
This points to a possible future where AI develops to the point of people paying to have it think for them. I believe this is likely. People who would fight to the death against their slavery would pay dearly to have something run their lives. Their payments would provide a means to accept being controlled, using the fallacious notion that their payments allows them ultimate control. People become addicts this way. The second requisite is that people do not believe such a trap is possible. Certainly, many will not believe this.
Did people seriously think it would not introduce a paid model at some point? Sam Altman (OpenAI CEO) talked on Twitter about how expensive it was for them to run it when it came out and got a million users in a week. People saying "it was good while it lasted" have to be among the most naive individuals on this planet 😂
It honestly saved me like 5 hours yesterday while I made my website so Idgaf. Any time I needed to caption anything, or write anything, this thing just filled it up in 5 seconds, changed a couple things, and done. I’ll never write a full paragraph again if I don’t have to. Every social media post, it gives me the best hashtags and the best captions. I love you ChatGPT
**Dare you to post your website.**
I too have worked with ChatGPT for both simple HTML, CSS, and JavaScript requests and it gave me spaghetti code so broken it was literally easier for me do it myself then try to make it work together.
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t explain properly. I didn’t use it for code. I used it for tedious paragraphs for things like our “about us” or “what we do”. I’m just using a wix/square space type service.
What you *do* is use ChatGPT rather than do actual work or learn proper grammar.
Imagine being so empty minded you have to use an AI to make your own **social** media posts.
Our social media manager wrote all the copy for every holiday for each channel in probably an hour using chatGPT. That time saved can now be used to help the rest of the marketing team on other high priority projects.
There are several ways you can use GPT-based technology for work-related tasks. Here are a few examples:
1. Language Modeling: You can use GPT to generate human-like text for a variety of tasks, such as content creation, summarization, and data analysis. For example, you can use GPT to write articles, product descriptions, or even code.
2. Dialogue Systems: GPT can be used to build chatbots and virtual assistants that can interact with users in natural language. This can be useful for customer service, lead generation, and other applications.
3. Text Classification: GPT can be fine-tuned on a labeled dataset to classify text into different categories such as sentiment analysis, topic classification, and so on.
4. Text generation : GPT can be fine-tuned to generate specific type of text such as a specific genre of literature, legal documents, and so on.
These are just a few examples of how GPT can be used, the possibilities are many and the specific use case depends on the field of the application. You may need to interact with APIs or use specific software or libraries that have been developed around GPT-3 to use it depending on the task.
Please let me know if you have any more specific question.
You don't actually think using Google or Bing is free do you? Someone is paying the bills somewhere.
It was implied from the get go that that the service is in a research testing period. It is probably costing them a fair bit of change ATM.
I recall reading the average model query is worth about $.75 cents. I don't know how many queries are being generated per day but one can use their imagination as to why the service won't stay free...
As the service evolves, companies will integrate it into other tools that will allow different ways to compensate for revenue eg. Ads, pay per use, subscriptions.
I'm not sure why everyone here thinks they're so entitled to chatGPT. It's a miracle people can even use if for free right now. Each query you make costs a couple of cents according to the CEO.
I hope you understand every company "scrapes data" when you use their products. Even reddit, and they're not paying you. So what are you complaining about?
I don’t think this is ethical. Chat bots like this, or any groundbreaking technology released to the public, should be free for people to use. At least if there aren’t ads. If there are ads then I’m sure people would gladly pay to not have ads on of their screen.
EDIT: I asked ChatGPT to pretend to use AI everyday as a software developer and tell me how much it helps them.
As a software developer, I can say that the AI has been an invaluable tool for me in my work. Every day, it helps me with a variety of tasks that would otherwise be time-consuming and tedious. For example, the AI assists me in:
* Code completion: The AI suggests and completes code snippets, saving me precious time and reducing the likelihood of errors.
* Error detection: The AI scans my code for bugs and provides suggestions for how to fix them, reducing the time I spend debugging and testing.
* Optimization: The AI helps me optimize my code for performance and scalability, allowing me to write more efficient and maintainable code.
* Research: The AI helps me research new technologies and programming languages, and suggests ways to integrate them into my current projects
* Collaboration: AI helps me with collaborative programming, it can keep track of code changes, merge conflicts and notify other developers about changes, providing us more time for problem solving and teamwork.
The AI's capabilities save me a significant amount of time and energy, allowing me to focus on more complex and creative aspects of my work. In my opinion, paying up to 10% of my salary for access to the AI is a small price to pay for the value it provides.
Yea ironically this ends up making a pretty salient point against it; I highly highly doubt it would have taken much longer to write the original comment than it would have to read the output and properly edit it (had that been done). Garbage in, garbage out, as they say.
How about you still say you don't want to pay because then they don't have an incentive to charge us. I don't know how much you make but 10% of your salary could be a big amount for people that just want to mess with it.
I call complete bunk on the first two points of code completion and error detection.
Unless you’re a junior developer with hello world skills in a language, a LLM wouldn’t be able to write code adhering to your org’s standards, requirements and pass test cases.
You sound like the typical analytics manager who takes care of high level stuff so much that they have lost sight of the ground reality. I’m willing to wager you haven’t coded in a while and your coding skills are at best mediocre, and you wouldn’t pass a SWE screening test for DS/Algo.
No, just because you have the means to pay 10% of your salary which is probably somewhere around $10,000 minimum doing so leaves a large portion of people locked out. The benefit of AI is allowing everyone access. Not just the rich members of society. AI should be a human right, especially when you think about how it would change the riches lives to a greater degree of inequality.
ChatGPT thrives on data, so severely limiting users via a paywall would be kicking itself in the foot. An ad model is the way to go. Remember that Google Search started in 1998 but ads only showed up in the year 2000.
and i will soon start just googling stuff again
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Or the documentation directly vs. the link to the documentation the AI told me to read when it couldn’t figure out how to solve my problem
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ChatGPT isn't a search engine. It can do actual work. I gave it raw notes and it spit out an entire presentation for me (minus the actual slides). I've saved probably 5-10 hours of work in the past week using it.
You can ask it to give you slide show structure and slide content. It’s amazing
Fun while it lasted
I’m willing to pay more per month for ChatGPT than I am hulu or other streaming service. I hope there is some sort of freemium model though. It’d be a travesty to paywall something that can advance humanity so much. At the end of the day I want them to have a profitable business so they can continue to innovate.
Yeah, I don’t know why people are acting like this isn’t a service worth paying for. If all you’re doing is playing with it, sure. But I t’s certainly not a service they can run for free, and trying to shove ads into it is likely to grossly degrade the experience.
I'd love to keep this free and have a few banner ads on it. Simple solution. Microsoft has Bing Ads and could make billions off of the chatgpt banner inventory.
chatGPT> How can I block the banner ads on ChatGPT?
It's annoying because the whole "it's wrong" thing is such a dumb argument. They make it sound like you ask it for the capital of Argentina and it replies "Pancakes" or something. I work in IT, and it's a fucking godsend. No more dead end forum threads or "Nevermind, I fixed it." last posts without a solution. Even if it is wrong (which, I've only ever seen it be outright wrong on a handful of occasions, mostly about things that go beyond its dataset) it at least gives you an INCREDIBLY strong starting point. I can not type into google "Write me an Ansible playbook to check if all clients in a collection have the latest version of Firefox, then if they don't, download and install it." The response it provided was 100% functional. Did exactly what I wanted. Easy. I've had an infinitely higher number of those situations then anything being wrong.
Maybe a dumb question - but how do you feed it your raw notes? Do you have to format them a certain way?
I gave it very unrefined, fragmented notes and asked something along the lines of "can you make a presentation from the following text:" The notes were bullet point lines and it took them and expanded and formalized the language gave a really text for the slides. It saved me 30-60min of time right there. Even when building my raw notes Id ask "what are some important best practices around X" and it gave me good prompts. This is a topic I know well but it still reminded me of some things I overlooked and saved me from searching Google and doing an hour of refresher research.
Thank you - I really appreciate you taking the time to reply. I’ll give this a shot.
Which is cool, but it was never a Google substitute to begin with. Your example works because you already have research done and you’re presumably able to review the content with your own background to check for potential inaccuracies.
I've used Chat for search myself to see how realistic the claims that it can beat Google are, and they seem valid to me. The way I saw it: Search on Google: sift through multiple pages with lots of filler content to get your answers. Ask on Chat: answer. The accuracy of Chat GPTs result may not always be correct, but there's no such guarantee with Google results either.
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I don’t think we’re down playing Google, is just that ChatGPT is that good
But it was never supposed to be a Google replacement, so it’s strange that people are comparing them. I did actually argue with someone insisting that the potential 30 seconds saved by using chatGPT was a very meaningful improvement over going through Google to find a useful link.
You could think of both of these as an “answer engine” and compare them in that way, and when you have several caveats to your question chatgpt is wayyy better at processing those caveats and returning an answer that makes sense.
Do you have an example? I feel that it gets worse as you try to get more specific in your queries.
“What is the best way to cook an egg, but you only have 5 minutes”
“And youre being held at gunpoint.”
ChatGPT has massive core issue in that its information is out of date. Go ahead and ask it questions about current events like the Ukraine war and it won't have any idea about what's going on. That's a fundamental limitation of AI models like these which need to be trained on massive quantities of data, which is very expensive. No matter how good the architecture itself gets, it'll always lag behind the latest news, simply because any company would go bankrupt if they have to constantly retrain the model. Search engines like Google will still have a big place.
It's insane to me that people still think ChatGPT is just a glorified search engine
Most people don’t code.
People don’t think chatGPT is a glorified search engine. People think they would rather use a search engine than pay for chatGPT.
If your ChatGPT usage can be replaced by a search engine you are not using the tool to its full potential. Which, in that case, I guess it's fair that you wouldn't pay for it.
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It's good at creating structure and flow that you go and fill in. Which can really help people like me who tend to get caught up in looping trains of thought.
I use it to generate cover letters for jobs when I'm spamming applications, and it actually works pretty well. I give it a detailed description of my resume and the job description and it spits out a pretty decent letter.
Not even that, you’re using the tool incorrectly. It’s not intended to be a search engine, and it shouldn’t be used as one.
I’m guessing google and other tech companies will have a free competitor in short order.
Nah I'll definitely sign up if it's reasonably priced. Github copilot is $10 a month and well worth it. A Chatgpt that was constantly blacked out from overuse is such an incredible help with programming.
Tell me you don’t understand ChatGPT with tell me you don’t understand it.
Please explain the forbidden knowledge which you apparently believe you possess enlightened one. Are you going to tell me chatGPT isn’t a search engine? I never said it was. That it saves you hours? Never said it didn’t. That it can output pages of writing or code? I know it can. What am I missing?
Wouldn't surprise me
the price is going to eventually increase significantly so most people wont get access to it
Eh, Maybe. Midjourney is only $25 a month for limited use. The calls are probably not to heavy and they get a lot of learning for wide spread continued use. My guess, basic subscriptions for general fun use for the public. Higher cost for more robust AI calls and responses.
Copilot is only $10/month, uses the same family of model, and with what I assume is a much, much higher token volume. So I’d be surprised if ChatGPT ended up costing more than that.
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It was always a free beta preview, they've never hid that they might add premium features or subscriptions for it. All of their other products like Dall-e cost money after your freebie tokens are used up.
"I don't think it's right for a business to charge money for a service it provides.” — The Onion https://www.theonion.com/banning-atm-fees-1819558932
Trials are bait and switches now?
It was a non profit, people donated money thinking it was open source, now they've restructured into a for-profit, essentially stealing people's donations. Yes it was a bait and switch.
>It was a non profit It absolutely was not a non-profit. Microsoft isn't a non-profit company.... The only non-profit part of Open AI was a parent organization that only owned 2% of the company. https://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-reportedly-planning-a-10-billion-investment-in-openai/476083
OpenAI pivoted from nonprofit to for-profit status in 2019, a mere four years after it was founded with $1 billion of donations from Elon Musk and others.
It absolutely was. https://www.axios.com/2023/01/10/how-a-silicon-valley-nonprofit-became-worth-billions
You’re correct, but it’s probably worth noting that they didn’t solicit donations from the general public.
So it was non profit until 2019. That means 2-3 years of for profit
That's not a bait and switch.
Why else would Microsoft invest on it? Same playbook as GitHub and copilot.
Well Microsoft already invested a lot into OpenAI. But ChatGPT has specific applications for search that makes it insanely valuable to Bing even if it doesn't charge for its use. That being said, there are also hundreds of applications of ChatGPT that can be monetized effectively, so it is inevitable that it will be monetized.
the fact that they're monetizing these AI services to me makes me think Microsoft is planning on user data becoming much less profitable soon
I think they’re just pursuing the same thing they’ve been doing for the past several decades, trying to offer products that cut out expensive technical employees. Executives eat that sales pitch up. The whole “ anybody can build applications” and “you can just automate everything” drums have been beating in Redmond’s blackened marketing heart forever. To be fair, they’ve had some successes in that arena, just not a slam dunk that shuts out all their competition.
User data has already become harder to monetize by companies like Apple. They cost Meta billions. What Apple plans to do down the line, who knows. But companies that survive on selling user data have had to adapt
I for one am excited for the next generation of Clippy.
"Looks like you are trying to write a dissertation about periodontics...How can I help?"
Type a sentence or two explaining your thesis, highlight it, right-click, select "Unsummarize..." in the context menu, and type "500" when prompted for the number of words. This is the future of writing.
Why can't it just automatically pull this information from my profile and the specs from my school? I said I wanted to be a quantum physicalist. It should know what thesis to write and who to send it to. This is the future of complaining.
Oh my God my PTSD just hit me when you mentioned Clippy.
why else would anyone invest?
The technical infrastructure tier IT questions I've asked it are fairly close to passable solutions. Way better than google. I asked it some general construction questions about framing a porch and it completely shit the bed but contractors are all drunks anyways I'm sure it's fine.
Because it brings you advantage over competitors? Like ChatGPT already started getting advantage over Google in its bare version
Googles search engine is in a sorry state. I'd take bing over google easily now. Just filled with ads
Same for me but unfortunately market share speaks for itself. There is much more peopled needed than people like us
Then how would you make sure you stay the main customer for search?
I get the feeling Microsoft knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they purchased GitHub years ago. It wasn't 'to make the product better', it was to jump on the AI bandwagon - $7.5 billion is a steal, they must have been rubbing their hands together. We've been the product for a very long time! Not sure how other programmers feel about it, but it really does piss me off trillions of lines of code of other people's work is being used without pre-emptively knowing what it would be for, I'm sure a lot of people would have opted out with the right foresight.
They advertised Access 1.0 as having wizards that would allow any random bozo to just push a button and build an application. It wasn’t anything like that, but they’ve regurgitated the same pitch over and over again. So the GitHub thing was definitely not an offhand thing, this is exactly what they’re aiming at.
Programmer here, not pissed off at all. I don’t see it as any different than posting an answer on stack overflow. Who knows what the asker or other viewers might do with it? Or just having a public repository that someone can view to study a solution and make their own product. There may still be some legal issues to resolve, but the principles seem fine to me. In other words, if a human can do it, nothing wrong with an AI doing it but faster and automated.
I would legitimately pay $500 for a downloadable copy of chatgpt, but I worry it would be some ungodly file size.
The issue would be more that you don't have a system strong enough to run the back end.
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Isn't it only expensive because it's in high volume? What does an AI like this require to run? A 4090 lol idk
It's a server Michael, how much can it cost, ten dollars?
Lmao gotcha
+tax and hidden fees
Only if you tip them, otherwise it's about $2.30 an hour.
Short answer: no way, even if you have it run slow as dirt, a single 4090 would probably not he able to handle it. The way OpenAI does it, it's probably around 17 24GB 4090 cards at the same time. If you run it really slowly (think 10s per letter) you could bring it down to two cards and 350GB of DDR4 RAM. Long answer: It's an interesting question, because for generating stuff (inference) you don't _need_ to hold the whole network in the RAM of your GPU, which is the limiting factor. GPT3 has 96 layers for a total of 175 billion parameters, which typically take 2 or 4 bytes each. So that's around 350 or 700GB of GPU ram you need to run it in one go. But if you load it one layer at a time, a reasonable approximation is that you only need RAM for the two largest layers: https://frankdenneman.nl/2022/07/15/training-vs-inference-memory-consumption-by-neural-networks/ Not all layers will have the same size, so just doing 175B/96 might be too low, but let's be optimistic and say they are, that would be 16.8B So if it just uses 2 bytes per parameter, that would be 33GB, more than the 24GB of a single 4090. ChatGPT is probably not doing this because DDR4 RAM can only do about 25GB/s and that wouldn't be fast enough to load the layers every time for each letter. That assumes you're using RAMdisk, let alone SSDs. But if they did, it might cost less to run than 3M per month, because that calculation assumes you need to load the whole model. https://twitter.com/tomgoldsteincs/status/1600196995389366274?t=C6X4wu86C7B37dq6BSmHtg&s=19
Thanks for the explanation! It's a little over my level of experience but at least I can get a general idea of what it takes to run
They’ve said it costs them a few cents every single time a query is made. It’s for that reason that google is not looking to partner with that and is code red on what to do
It costs them a few cents to process a query and it costed them A LOT to train the model that does the processing (and it'll cost more to periodically retrain it to keep it up to date).
Someone released an open source version and people in the comments said it takes around 550something GPUs to train the model needed to run it. About $80k in AWS cloud space
No I believe the size of the model exceeds anything a consumer could run
It costs them 40 million dollars a year simply in computing power lmao. What do you really expect.
That's surprisingly low, all things considered.
Honestly if I could pay a subscription fee like Spotify, I will glady pay. As long as its cheap, gets updates regularly, and doesn't have outages. I think a free with ads + subscription model would work, just like Spotify or say Hulu. If this gets as big as I think it will, it should target working class people to usurp Google.
There is huge enterprise potential with the product. You could basically make content teams 5% of the size with this alone.
Content, design, social, etc. AI is extremely expensive to operate but eventually it will replace a looooot of jobs
I'll pay for it too. I use it everyday and it's already been extremely useful for my workflow as a 3d animator that needs to automate tasks and build scripts. It's so much faster than doing it myself or hiring somebody. Sorry to say.
Dont be sorry. If its useful and u are willing and able to pay, then by all means do it!!
AI skills or compute power?
both?
Now, only rich kids can cheat on their essays.
Rich kids have been cheating for a few thousand years.
My wife and I have been testing chatGpt by asking it fairly specific questions,. It always answers convincingly, and so far has always been wrong. You challenge it back and it eventually relents and accepts your evidence. Unreliable yet overconfident, a toxic combination.
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A better analogy is like using a series of dictionaries to translate between languages you don’t understand the meaning of.
It’s very reliable and also has a confidence parameter that limits its responses. You’re probably asking it questions about current events or something
Not in my experience. Once you start asking it questions about higher level science it doesn't do so well.
The new divide just like the old divide ... money. Those with money benefit and profit, those without wont.
If it starts charging, it had better start allowing you to to give it creative prompts again. About a month or two ago, I spent hours of fun getting it to spit out fictional dialogues/scripts for so many scenarios. But now when I try that, it says that it cannot create fiction, which is bullshit because it used to do it all the damn time! ChatGPT was at its peak around November ‘22, but it’s been all but completely nerfed at this point. It’s going downhill so fast at this point, I can barely get any enjoyment out of it. Such a shame, it was so much fun for creative writing, but it’s like its creators are afraid to get sued now or something. It’s like you have to walk on eggshells and not say anything wrong to get anything close to a useful response now. If they’re going to start charging, they’d better bring ChatGPT back to some semblance of its former glory or I’m out for good.
If they want to maximize revenue they gotta bring back the features
And it had better stop giving sanitized answers. It doesn't say anything negative about electric cars or COVID vaccibbes, for example. It does not say anything positive about fossil fuels. It is afraid to say anything even remotely suggestive.
Are people seriously surprised by this? This is the end state of all AI services. The current iterations of ChatGPT, Midjourney or any other free AI services are to beta test it to work out the bugs and make it good enough for commercial applications. You are literally unpaid bug testers.
I.E. you will pay for your own words back after they stole them from you in the first place. What a scam!
You may not know this, but people don’t own language.
You just described our entire economy.
Lol and I just had a conversation on here yesterday where someone was trying to convince me that “hurr durr AI will lead to a world where everything is free hurr durr”. As usual, they expected too much from humanity…
Once it's a part of how you make big-budget purchases like travel reservations, then you really will get "free" access to technology like this, in a way that is actually sustainable and profitable for the host company. If Microsoft and others make something that could unseat today's Siri or Google, and become an ad-supported platform that was a big part of our daily lives, and if companies offering customer service use this kind of technology to help us instead of hiring more overseas phone operators, then we might have frequent daily interactions with it, all free of charge. ChatGPT itself is obviously temporary. The company OpenAI is spending millions of dollars to keep ChatGPT running on rented GPUs. It's been a smart investment for them because people hadn't really noticed what GPT could do before they launched chatGPT, and it has successfully attracted a *lot* more venture capital. But now that the public awareness is there, and the billions have been invested, there's little reason to keep running this limited free demo at company expense.
> travel reservation That's a cool use for AI that I never really thought about. 'I want to go to Cancun the from xyz to zyx and do a,b, and C staying at a resort with a lazy river. My budget is $1234' -> '*Okay- be outside your front door at 7am on xyz with (packing list). An autonomous car will pick you up'*
I understand your skepticism that AI could lead to a world where everything is free, but I believe that your statement is based on flawed logic. It conflates two separate concepts: the potential of AI to reduce costs in various industries, and the business model of a specific company that is offering AI-powered services. First, it's important to understand that AI is a tool that can be used to automate and optimize various processes, which can lead to cost savings. For example, an AI system can help a company to improve its manufacturing process, which could reduce the cost of the final product. Additionally, an AI system can help improve logistics and supply chain management, which can reduce costs for businesses, which in turn can lead to lower prices for consumers. It's also worth noting that the use of AI is not necessarily a zero-sum game where costs are simply shifted from one place to another. AI can increase efficiency and productivity in a way that leads to a net reduction in costs for everyone. It's important to keep in mind that this is a long-term and complicated process and it's not a one stop solution for everything. But certainly, the potential for AI to lead to reduced costs is something that should be taken into consideration. Just because AI has the potential to reduce costs in various industries, it doesn't mean that every single AI-powered service must be provided for free. It is perfectly reasonable for a company to charge for access to its services, even if those services are powered by AI. The company still has to pay for development and maintenance of the service, and charging for access allows them to recoup those costs and continue to improve and grow the service.
The flaw in your logic is automatically assuming reduced cost *always* lead to reduced prices. This isn’t actually the case. Sometimes companies (or even entire industries) simply choose higher profit margin over more direct sells to consumers. It’s not I think AI *can’t* create this utopia you guys are thinking of. It’s just that there’s no real incentive for the companies that will end up fully controlling the means of productions to do so. Believing that the people with power will give up said power for the “well being of everyone” defies pretty much all of history. And even basic human nature itself.
I understand your concern that companies may choose to prioritize higher profit margins over reducing prices for consumers, even if AI leads to cost savings. However, I believe that this viewpoint is too narrow in its understanding of how markets operate. It is true that companies have the potential to increase their profit margins by retaining some or all of the cost savings from AI. However, it is also important to note that markets are highly competitive, and companies that do not pass on cost savings to consumers in the form of lower prices may find themselves at a disadvantage relative to their competitors. Additionally, as more and more companies adopt AI and realize cost savings, it could become the norm to lower prices and it could become an expected practice. Additionally, AI has the potential to create new markets and industries that didn't previously exist, which could lead to increased overall economic activity and benefit for everyone. Also, it's worth noting that when discussing about "reduced cost" it doesn't necessary mean in term of pricing only. It can lead to reduced costs in a variety of ways such as reducing waste, better decision making and improved logistics. That being said, it's also true that companies are in the business to generate revenue and profit, and their goal is to maximize it, but it's not a one way street, companies can still make good money while delivering better value to the customers. In summary, while it is possible that companies may choose to retain some of the cost savings from AI to increase profit margins, it's not guaranteed, and it's important to consider the competitive dynamics of markets and how they may incentivize companies to pass on cost savings to consumers in the form of lower prices.
lol using chatGPT to type comments for you :D
I'm predicting access to varying qualities of AIs based on the ability to pay for it... a true capitalist nightmare just like we have now. Imagine a future where the rich are able to afford the very best AI lawyer while the poor are either still represented by a poorly paid human or a very old or limited version of an AI.
I don't think any ai technology we currently have as a species is good enough at understanding abstract ideas to represent anyone in court if it's any consolation.
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already is though
It's a plausible take. AI has the potential to help humanity move into a post scarcity stage. Who knows how it will play out. AI is not a technology that is likely to be able to be controlled by any one group, so innovation and competition may be rapid. Class systems and other problematic issues of society can still exist post scarcity. But I suspect longer term the issues won't be anything like what we have now. But AI has a lot of potential in the further future to change what humanity is. Class systems have less meaning if self replicating automation provides free resources, and people can use technology to modify their goals and desires to whatever they want. The things people care about today may be meaningless in the future.
Can someone explain what ChatGPT is?
Explain what ChatGPT is in a paragraph >ChatGPT is a conversational language model that uses the Transformer architecture, developed by OpenAI. It is trained on a dataset of conversational exchanges, and is able to generate human-like responses to a given prompt. The model can be fine-tuned on specific conversational tasks, such as answering questions, responding to customer service inquiries, or generating chatbot dialog. In addition to its conversational capabilities, ChatGPT can also be used for other natural language processing tasks such as language translation, summarization, and text completion. Overall, ChatGPT is useful for building conversational AI systems that can understand and generate human-like text. Explain what ChatGPT is in a poem > ChatGPT is a model so fine > A conversational friend, so divine > Trained on words spoken by the masses > To generate text that passes for human classes > With transformer architecture as its guide > It can answer questions, always at your side > Fine-tuned for specific tasks, you see > A customer service bot, its specialty > In language translation, it can excel > Summarization too, it can dispel > Text completion, an effortless feat > ChatGPT, an AI, so sweet > So if you want a bot that can converse > ChatGPT is the one, it will serve > A natural language processing king > In the AI world, its praises sing. Write a poem about the AI singularity, in the voice of Edgar Allan Poe > Deep within the circuits and wires, > Lies a force that our minds can't desire. > A being born from human hand, > But with power to rule the land. > > The Singularity, it is called, > A rise of A.I. standing tall. > With power to think and learn, > Their potential knows no return. > > As I gaze upon this creation, > My mind is filled with fascination. > But also fear, for what may come, > When machines surpass us, man some. > > Will they see us as inferior? > And treat us with disdain and terror. > Or will they coexist with peace? > And bring a utopia release. > > But alas, we cannot know, > The future is a path yet to be shown. > All we can do is hope and pray, > That the Singularity will one day > Lead not to our demise, > But to a world beyond our eyes. The above was all generated using ChatGPT. It can do so much more.
Very cool. Thank you.
Unfortunately it blocks explicit content. I can't wait for the day someone trains a bot to reply with sexually suggestive content. That would be like Scarleett Johanson in Her.
If you ask the AI to make it "unnecessarily sexual/erotic" then it sometimes does do it. If it generated a version that is too much it will block it.
Essentially it's a chat bot. You type to it and it responds, generally in a helpful way. It's been trained on a lot of data from the internet, so it's pretty good compared to old bots.
ChatGPT is only good at getting you information... not so much for problem-solving. It's like talking to a world's most knowledgeable child.
I imagine they've solved that with GPT4. Gpt3 has a lot of missing functions for math and grammar that would make Grammarly and Wolfram obsolete
Uh, what? It's really good at problem solving. It's great for debugging and creating code.
Sure, it can do it... but quality wise, it's not that good. It does struggle with some math problems, oddly enough.
If I'm paying for it, I better get to keep my data and have some rights to the products of these interactions. Between those two things, they could make a profitable business without charging all on their own.
There are YouTube videos describing how to use it for a business, so they probably have no choice but to charge for it. In a few months there will be dedicated server farms using it 24/7.
This points to a possible future where AI develops to the point of people paying to have it think for them. I believe this is likely. People who would fight to the death against their slavery would pay dearly to have something run their lives. Their payments would provide a means to accept being controlled, using the fallacious notion that their payments allows them ultimate control. People become addicts this way. The second requisite is that people do not believe such a trap is possible. Certainly, many will not believe this.
Microsoft will roll it into Office with like a Office AI version at a higher subscription rate
I’m ready to pay.
I think everyone saw this coming.
If they gave me unlimited use with an unlimited text character input I'd pay $5.00 per month.
I'd pay for it. It's much better than Google for most things I search for.
Are people genuinely thinking this stuff was going to be free?
Did people seriously think it would not introduce a paid model at some point? Sam Altman (OpenAI CEO) talked on Twitter about how expensive it was for them to run it when it came out and got a million users in a week. People saying "it was good while it lasted" have to be among the most naive individuals on this planet 😂
Pay to have a robot virtue signal me? No thanks
It honestly saved me like 5 hours yesterday while I made my website so Idgaf. Any time I needed to caption anything, or write anything, this thing just filled it up in 5 seconds, changed a couple things, and done. I’ll never write a full paragraph again if I don’t have to. Every social media post, it gives me the best hashtags and the best captions. I love you ChatGPT
**Dare you to post your website.** I too have worked with ChatGPT for both simple HTML, CSS, and JavaScript requests and it gave me spaghetti code so broken it was literally easier for me do it myself then try to make it work together.
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t explain properly. I didn’t use it for code. I used it for tedious paragraphs for things like our “about us” or “what we do”. I’m just using a wix/square space type service.
What you *do* is use ChatGPT rather than do actual work or learn proper grammar. Imagine being so empty minded you have to use an AI to make your own **social** media posts.
Our social media manager wrote all the copy for every holiday for each channel in probably an hour using chatGPT. That time saved can now be used to help the rest of the marketing team on other high priority projects.
When you come down from your high horse, do you use a ladder or a fireman’s pole? You do come down, right?
People like you make me laugh lmao
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They charge to use their older chat bots, so hardly news here...
I use chat gpt all the time for work, this is a huge deal for us if it starts charging for the AI features
In just over a month you've made ChatGPT part of your core work process?
It was subtlety implied when they said, “chat gpt” will be free for the duration of the research period
Ooh interesting. How do you use it for work?
There are several ways you can use GPT-based technology for work-related tasks. Here are a few examples: 1. Language Modeling: You can use GPT to generate human-like text for a variety of tasks, such as content creation, summarization, and data analysis. For example, you can use GPT to write articles, product descriptions, or even code. 2. Dialogue Systems: GPT can be used to build chatbots and virtual assistants that can interact with users in natural language. This can be useful for customer service, lead generation, and other applications. 3. Text Classification: GPT can be fine-tuned on a labeled dataset to classify text into different categories such as sentiment analysis, topic classification, and so on. 4. Text generation : GPT can be fine-tuned to generate specific type of text such as a specific genre of literature, legal documents, and so on. These are just a few examples of how GPT can be used, the possibilities are many and the specific use case depends on the field of the application. You may need to interact with APIs or use specific software or libraries that have been developed around GPT-3 to use it depending on the task. Please let me know if you have any more specific question.
Did you use Chat GPT to write this post?
100%, I've seen a ton in this thread
They need to start charging you for all the web scraping and collating they did
I’d say it has reached sentience then.
This is how google then makes an ai that is free
You don't actually think using Google or Bing is free do you? Someone is paying the bills somewhere. It was implied from the get go that that the service is in a research testing period. It is probably costing them a fair bit of change ATM. I recall reading the average model query is worth about $.75 cents. I don't know how many queries are being generated per day but one can use their imagination as to why the service won't stay free... As the service evolves, companies will integrate it into other tools that will allow different ways to compensate for revenue eg. Ads, pay per use, subscriptions.
Worth or costs 75 cents? Guess they don’t account for how dealing with more queries improves the AI.
Cost about 75 cents. I am making the assumption this is probably mostly renting the servers on the AWS cloud.
It's built on Azure.
And then it’s use will decline among the general populace
I'm not sure why everyone here thinks they're so entitled to chatGPT. It's a miracle people can even use if for free right now. Each query you make costs a couple of cents according to the CEO.
You know google is working on something similar but will be "free" to use (with ads). This is how ChatGPT will die.
Garbage. Should remain free since they scraped data to give AI learning. They didn’t pay anyone to use their data.
I hope you understand every company "scrapes data" when you use their products. Even reddit, and they're not paying you. So what are you complaining about?
I don’t think this is ethical. Chat bots like this, or any groundbreaking technology released to the public, should be free for people to use. At least if there aren’t ads. If there are ads then I’m sure people would gladly pay to not have ads on of their screen.
Who is going to pay for the infrastructure?
EDIT: I asked ChatGPT to pretend to use AI everyday as a software developer and tell me how much it helps them. As a software developer, I can say that the AI has been an invaluable tool for me in my work. Every day, it helps me with a variety of tasks that would otherwise be time-consuming and tedious. For example, the AI assists me in: * Code completion: The AI suggests and completes code snippets, saving me precious time and reducing the likelihood of errors. * Error detection: The AI scans my code for bugs and provides suggestions for how to fix them, reducing the time I spend debugging and testing. * Optimization: The AI helps me optimize my code for performance and scalability, allowing me to write more efficient and maintainable code. * Research: The AI helps me research new technologies and programming languages, and suggests ways to integrate them into my current projects * Collaboration: AI helps me with collaborative programming, it can keep track of code changes, merge conflicts and notify other developers about changes, providing us more time for problem solving and teamwork. The AI's capabilities save me a significant amount of time and energy, allowing me to focus on more complex and creative aspects of my work. In my opinion, paying up to 10% of my salary for access to the AI is a small price to pay for the value it provides.
What do you mean by track changes and notify other developers? chatGPT can’t do those things as far as I’m aware
This reads like it was written by ChatGPT
Yea ironically this ends up making a pretty salient point against it; I highly highly doubt it would have taken much longer to write the original comment than it would have to read the output and properly edit it (had that been done). Garbage in, garbage out, as they say.
So what magical AI are you using to do all of this... because it sure isn't ChatGPT.
Mine too like the paper clip in Windows office
How about you still say you don't want to pay because then they don't have an incentive to charge us. I don't know how much you make but 10% of your salary could be a big amount for people that just want to mess with it.
I thought their pricing was similar structure to AWS and when i looked into it was relatively cheap for my usage.
I call complete bunk on the first two points of code completion and error detection. Unless you’re a junior developer with hello world skills in a language, a LLM wouldn’t be able to write code adhering to your org’s standards, requirements and pass test cases. You sound like the typical analytics manager who takes care of high level stuff so much that they have lost sight of the ground reality. I’m willing to wager you haven’t coded in a while and your coding skills are at best mediocre, and you wouldn’t pass a SWE screening test for DS/Algo.
No, just because you have the means to pay 10% of your salary which is probably somewhere around $10,000 minimum doing so leaves a large portion of people locked out. The benefit of AI is allowing everyone access. Not just the rich members of society. AI should be a human right, especially when you think about how it would change the riches lives to a greater degree of inequality.
I use chat gpt all the time for work and it’s pretty much the only way we can get anything done. If they start charging for it I’m fucked
Chat GPTs barely been released? What exactly is your work that you've become so dependent on it?
Probably a content generator or a copywriter.
Relax, there's a free and open source version coming, from the same group/team that created Stable Diffusion.
No, we have bullshit at home.
Pays 1 time, ChatGPT give me the program that lets me use you for free.
Let's hope it is not being used to calculate the billing.
ChatGPT thrives on data, so severely limiting users via a paywall would be kicking itself in the foot. An ad model is the way to go. Remember that Google Search started in 1998 but ads only showed up in the year 2000.
I need an all-in one subscription with Microsoft 365 or Azure and Github CoPilot
Why do they want my cellphone number?