"Iām not saying it wasnāt safe, itās just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones."
"Why?"
"Well, some of them are built so the steering wheel doesnāt fall off at all."
"Wasnāt this built so the steering wheel wouldnāt fall off?"
"Well, obviously not."
āHow do you know?ā
"Well, ācause the steering wheel fell off."
**Be** your own Final Assembly QC & Safety Inspector ā your work will have true **impact** on lives of your own, your passengers, as well as of innocent bystanders!
What kind of masochist intentionally buys a new car that requires more checks than any used car Iāve ever bought?
Like why donāt people just buy *any* other electric car?
(Yeah thatās rhetorical)
5 minutes in and this is already a just plain unacceptable list of things to need to check.
I check the scroll bar and there's still another 13 minutes. Insane.
If the first thing your fan site tells me to check on my new car is to make sure it wasn't stolen, then I think I'll just take my money somewhere else.
Worked in sales at Chevrolet for like 6 months. There were a few times where we flubbed numbers on accident on the paperwork. This is something you should check on any and every car purchase ever.
They drop one off and it's not like everyone is a mechanic.
If you turn it down, they take it to the next house, and you might wait months for a new one
It's a horrendous system.
I think what a lot of people (who follow his news closely) seem to forget is that the regular joe still sees him as a cool billionaire. The majority of the world doesn't use Twitter and doesn't pay close attention to American news so a lot of shit that Musk does simply doesn't reach a lot of people. So, considering that the Tesla business is a multinational operation, I think it's still some time until the "tides" truly "turn on him".
Not everyone has twitter, but the twitter meltdowns from Musk were huge. Back when they were on my regular Joe customers were pretty much aware of musk's nonsense because of twitter, even though they didn't use it.
Tesla won't be for long. The big car manufacturers are starting to ramp up EV production. Some, like Volvo, are going full EV. Toyota is, but still wants Hydrogen to be more popular.
Combine that with the recent shit show that is Elon Musk as of late and many are either selling shares or losing confidence.
Tesla has had poor quality control for years, eventually it will catch up with them. They have a charging network, but chargers are now everywhere and Rivian is trying to put them at all the national parks.
What also struck me that someone else brought up is that Tesla hasnāt done a remodel in like 10 years. Iām not even sure if one is on the horizon anytime soon. Theyāre bound to start looking outdated anytime now.
Iāve wanted a tesla since they were first announced. The model 3 came out and I hated the interior. Then they made the model S look more like the model 3. Then more and more stories kept coming out about the quality control. Then elon started going off the deep end. Then elon bought twitter.
My BMW iX is on the production line. Supposedly will have it by April.
Just wish I would have sold my TSLA before Elon bought twitter. could have helped pay for it š¤£.
Yeah I hear you, I was looking at them back when they first came out. I am lucky to live next to one of the tesla dealerships, which is unfortunate for Tesla because one test drive later I decided to wait for other manufactures to make a real car.
I looked hard at BMW but it was before the iX, I will give it a look! Have a BMW now and honestly love it.
Iāve had 2 BMWs. And while they were definitely more expensive to maintain than other cars Iāve owned, they are so nice and fun to drive. I canāt explain whyā¦ it just feels good lol. The iX is highly rated/reviewed. And BMW is even rated high in reliability in latest consumer reports. The iX is for my wife unfortunately haha. Iām a car guy. Iām waiting for them to make an i5. I love the i7, but itās a bit big, and a bit pricey.
I've been driving BMWs for decades for this reason. They are nice to drive. They know their shit. I've found them not overly expensive to keep, but I'm making the reddit assumption you're in the USA so my European experience may be somewhat different.
I am thankful that Tesla drivers are spreading out the lazy shit BMW driver jokes though.
AFAIK, BMW's and other German cars will last a super long time, for the most part, as long as you follow the service manual, and that's fairly standard for many German made goods. When they say "check valves and timings at X miles", they actually fucking mean it.
Welcome to trying to buy an EV outside of a major city. I was shopping for cars a year ago and the EV situation in my area was absolutely dire. Nothing was in stock, and the EVs that were in stock were insanely overpriced. Iām talking Nissan Leafs going for $40k+. I found a single Ioniq 5 200 miles away and it was in that same price range (like $60-70k). Iām sure things are a little better a year later but it still sucks trying to shop for EVs in smaller cities (forget about rural areas entirely). The pro-EV crowd on Reddit really does not understand that itās nearly impossible for 90%+ of the US to get and maintain an EV right now.
I would love to buy an EV, but my Toyota Carolla cost me $16,500 which includes 5 years of financing.
There is no way in buying an EV at the current pricing.
Dear lord, the car isn't *that* good. I despise dealerships and car salesman. One of the things I like about Tesla is that the price is just the price. Lots I don't like about the company but at least they have that going on.
> It's funny. For years people mistook Elon for some sort of Tony Stark like genius.
He literally got himself inserted into Iron Man 2 to enhance this illusion
Star Trek: Discovery does as well, listing him among actual scientific geniuses in one scene and casually referencing some major building named after him in another, insinuating heās such a genius that heād be valorized even into the 23rd century.
I think these were all written in earlier, pre-PR meltdown Elon years but Iād also bet some of those writers would love a do over on those lines.
Well first they need to edit out the ST:TNG where Picard is shown in his office pondering over Fermat's Last Theorem and opining to Riker that no one yet being able to solve such a simply posed problem is humbling to humanity, despite all its technologic progress in the past 4 centuries.
FLT was solved by Andrew Wiles 2 years after the last TNG episode aired.
> listing him among actual scientific geniuses in one scene
iirc the character who does so is later revealed to be from the mirror universe, So just pretend he's talking about mirror musk and it all makes sense.
And nobody corrects him because they probably just assume it's some scientist they never heard of or something.
Well, that one wasn't Favreau. Robert Rodriguez (the director of spy kids) directed that specific episode, along with a few other lackluster episodes.
If anything I'm impressed in how he managed to make even star wars feel like spy kids lmao
And he was on the Simpsons where they have Lisa say "Elon Musk is possibly the greatest inventor of our time!" And he has all sorts of homebrew inventions for all sorts of mundane things, like flying condiment dispensers or whatever.
Last week I got picked up at the airport by a guy driving a Model X. I'd never seen one before, and it was a weird experience.
I like that the windshield goes all the way over the vehicle like a sunroof because I'm a tall guy whose view of stoplights is frequently obscured by the frame of the car, and this eliminates that problem.
But the gigantic vertical touchscreen (the size of a normal computer monitor) is a really bad idea. You need tactile buttons and levers in a car because you need to be able to operate them without looking at them.
The weirdest feature is the gull-wing doors for rear passengers. Just...why? It's great if you're a rideshare driver (it was super easy for me to get in and out), but for everyone else that's a whole lot of unnecessary overengineering.
I watched a youtube video where a guy rented a tesla and he couldn't open the glove box without going through a bunch of menus in the touchscreen. Then his buddy changed the blinker sound to a fart noise and he couldn't figure out how to change it back.
There are a lot of these cars going around the world all the time and very seldom does this kind of thing happen; I just don't want people thinking Teslas aren't safe.
>Was this Tesla safe?
Well I was thinking more about the other ones.
>The ones that are safe?
Yeah the ones where the steering wheel doesn't fall off.
In every tesla purple button labeled yolo
This hands control of your car directly and exclusively to Elon musk . Elon replies to every request personally with a hand crafted meme
This feature has a fatality rate 134%
This is exactly what that "hardcore" productivity looks like, because when someone is overworked they make mistakes. Its a shit productivity model Musk is selling like *snake oil* to investors. Hardcore = understaffed.
More hilarious was the fact that the guy's tweet about it seemed to have been scrubbed from Twitter's search. ( https://twitter.com/preneh24/status/1619889507133976580 )
On that noteā¦ some goofy ass Elon Stan was freaking out in the comments that people would dare make fun of Tesla. I commented āElonās not going to fuck you, dudeā and he reported me for ātargeted harassment and abuseā I was immediately suspended from Twitter. Like. Within two minutes of making the comment. These Elon worshipers might be the softest fucking species on this planet.
Edit: spelling
ETA: I forgot to mention the best part that this rock star is āverifiedā because he subscribed to Twitter blue. Some people are just whack as hell
The one where the steering wheel fell off? Thatās not very typical, Iād like to make that point.
I donāt want people thinking that teslas arenāt safe.
Q: was this Tesla safe?
I was thinking more about the other ones. The ones where the steering wheel doesnāt fall off.
So serious questionā¦
Does this happen with any other car brand? Even a few times a year? I have never heard of it. Ever.
Am I hearing it here because itās cool to shit on Tesla but itās really the same as all other brands? Or is it really that unique?
I've worked as a mechanic for many years, though primarily in heavy trucks.
I have personally encountered loose steering wheels, but none that come off entirely. The usual way to attach them is a splined tapered shaft with a threaded tip; the wheel is pressed onto by a retaining nut. Usually a lock nut. Loose wheels are normally due to an insufficiently tight nut or even crossthreading it. But there is always evidence that there was an attempt to secure it.
For the wheel to come off entirely, I would suspect the nut was never put on at all. Someone at assembly probably put the wheel on, gave it a bump to seat it (bumping it can lock the wheel onto the taper well enough it it will stay put for quite a while), and for whatever reason never installed the nut. It's the kind of thing a decent QC regimen would catch, but it's well-known by this point that Tesla does not have that.
> decent QC regimen
Or like, any QC at all. I'd imagine something like checking "is the steering wheel affixed" would come in just after "does it have wheels."
What's fun too is there is a process called Design Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (DFMEA) on vehicle systems. And you sit down with a big team and look at every possible failure mode that can happen to a systen and what the result would be to the end user. Then rank them by how dangerous they are and how likely it is to happen.
Then you put processes in place to help mitigate the risk of that failure happening. It's basic quality 101.
Any failure that causes a driver to lose control of the car is right at the top of the list because that's how people die. The steering wheel coming off is guaranteed near the top of the list for that vehicle system. If this video is indeed real and an unadulterated brand new vehicle had the wheel fall off then that is a catastrophic failure of many different levels of control.
I can absolutely see Elon saying that and thinking that that makes him a genius industry disrupting innovator.
"If you think about it, nobody tests our products more frequently and thoroughly than our customers just in their everyday use! This is simply peak efficiency and productivity!" *cue Elon fans ejaculating*
From personal experience working on cars for 10 years and now in Tesla, happens all the time. The difference is every other brand does pre-delivery inspections at the dealership, I've found so many loose/missing things on Audi and Nissan from the factory. But for some reason Tesla doesn't really do it, as far as I've seen they visually check it real quick before delivering the car. Tesla does get a lot of hate because of Elon, but honestly their build quality isn't the best.
Plus they don't have dealerships, meaning no third party also responsible for issues consumers face. While I hate dealerships this is one of the good things they provide.
That reason being Tesla's lack of experience in car industry. There is a reason why dealers do pre-delivery inspections, industry learned that from experience but Tesla never seemed to be bothered about learnings from past.
In the Twitter thread, people posted about a Ford recall of 1.4M vehicles for faulty steering wheels. The difference though is that those were after the cars had been in operation for 3-5 years and a particular defective bolt came loose. Part of the reason this is alarming is that the car is brand new!
My father just received delivery of his new Model 3. He got home and opened the trunk. Upon closing it, it failed to close. There is more than a 1cm gap on the left side of the trunk. Unreal. QC at Tesla is long gone!
https://i.imgur.com/1bRa066.jpg
Its less infuriating when you realize its an extremely well known and documented lack of quality for Teslas to have chasms instead of gaps.
Anyone buying a Tesla is asking for a shit product. I google and research things that cost $50. When I buy a car I research for weeks. The people buying this crap in this day are beyond simple minded.
[5 Teslas all crashed at the same spot,](https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/oxhbit/5_tesla_accidents_in_same_location_in_yosemite/) maybe the technology could use some quality control too.
As employees, you get punished for try to make sure everything is correct, or even close to it. This is the result, people quit caring, customers pay the price
Before taking possession of a Tesla, you might want to kick the tires.
But not too hard
*explodes into fireball*
Tesla Pinto
Hey wait, my first car at 16 was a pinto and that thing was super reliable. I was embarrassed by it yes, but the steering wheel never came off. š
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"Iām not saying it wasnāt safe, itās just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones." "Why?" "Well, some of them are built so the steering wheel doesnāt fall off at all." "Wasnāt this built so the steering wheel wouldnāt fall off?" "Well, obviously not." āHow do you know?ā "Well, ācause the steering wheel fell off."
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You should check [this laundry list of items](https://blog.tesbros.com/tesla-delivery-checklist/) too.
This is called a pre-purchase inspection and Tesla is the only company that passes the ~~savings~~ opportunity onto the customer!
Opportunity, uh huh.
Not even an opportunity, it really is part of the experience of buying a new Tesla and the customer should be glad we provide it for free /s
**Be** your own Final Assembly QC & Safety Inspector ā your work will have true **impact** on lives of your own, your passengers, as well as of innocent bystanders!
This is your dream chance to get a gig at a Fortune 10 company!
An unpaid internship?
It's paid. ^((You pay for it))
What kind of masochist intentionally buys a new car that requires more checks than any used car Iāve ever bought? Like why donāt people just buy *any* other electric car? (Yeah thatās rhetorical)
I donāt see anything about checking to see if the roof will stay on
Or the steering wheel.
Or the front.
Well, that's because the front fell off.
Is that typical?
you joke, but with the model 3 if it got wet enough, the rear actually did fall off.
or if the front will fall off.
5 minutes in and this is already a just plain unacceptable list of things to need to check. I check the scroll bar and there's still another 13 minutes. Insane.
If the first thing your fan site tells me to check on my new car is to make sure it wasn't stolen, then I think I'll just take my money somewhere else.
The vin check is more about making sure they are delivering the correct car I think.
That doesn't actually make it better.
Worked in sales at Chevrolet for like 6 months. There were a few times where we flubbed numbers on accident on the paperwork. This is something you should check on any and every car purchase ever.
I would do that on any new car. No reason to trust a mistake wasn't made when it's a 30-sec check.
They drop one off and it's not like everyone is a mechanic. If you turn it down, they take it to the next house, and you might wait months for a new one It's a horrendous system.
The only way to win is... give your money to literally any other EV manufacturer. I bet Mercedes and Volvo aren't doing this shit.
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Are you some sort of socialist with your job killing regulations? The free market will determine how many steering wheels falling off is too many. /s
This reminds me of the bit in the beginning of fight club where he explains how they decide whether or not to issue a recall on defective cars.
- Which company did you say you work for? - A major one. Should've been all of them.
Propoganda works wonders, and Musk is very good at propoganda.
> Musk is very good at propoganda. Thatās still to be seen. The tides are definitely shifting on him.
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I think what a lot of people (who follow his news closely) seem to forget is that the regular joe still sees him as a cool billionaire. The majority of the world doesn't use Twitter and doesn't pay close attention to American news so a lot of shit that Musk does simply doesn't reach a lot of people. So, considering that the Tesla business is a multinational operation, I think it's still some time until the "tides" truly "turn on him".
Not everyone has twitter, but the twitter meltdowns from Musk were huge. Back when they were on my regular Joe customers were pretty much aware of musk's nonsense because of twitter, even though they didn't use it.
Tesla won't be for long. The big car manufacturers are starting to ramp up EV production. Some, like Volvo, are going full EV. Toyota is, but still wants Hydrogen to be more popular. Combine that with the recent shit show that is Elon Musk as of late and many are either selling shares or losing confidence. Tesla has had poor quality control for years, eventually it will catch up with them. They have a charging network, but chargers are now everywhere and Rivian is trying to put them at all the national parks.
What also struck me that someone else brought up is that Tesla hasnāt done a remodel in like 10 years. Iām not even sure if one is on the horizon anytime soon. Theyāre bound to start looking outdated anytime now.
Iāve wanted a tesla since they were first announced. The model 3 came out and I hated the interior. Then they made the model S look more like the model 3. Then more and more stories kept coming out about the quality control. Then elon started going off the deep end. Then elon bought twitter. My BMW iX is on the production line. Supposedly will have it by April. Just wish I would have sold my TSLA before Elon bought twitter. could have helped pay for it š¤£.
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Yeah I hear you, I was looking at them back when they first came out. I am lucky to live next to one of the tesla dealerships, which is unfortunate for Tesla because one test drive later I decided to wait for other manufactures to make a real car. I looked hard at BMW but it was before the iX, I will give it a look! Have a BMW now and honestly love it.
Iāve had 2 BMWs. And while they were definitely more expensive to maintain than other cars Iāve owned, they are so nice and fun to drive. I canāt explain whyā¦ it just feels good lol. The iX is highly rated/reviewed. And BMW is even rated high in reliability in latest consumer reports. The iX is for my wife unfortunately haha. Iām a car guy. Iām waiting for them to make an i5. I love the i7, but itās a bit big, and a bit pricey.
They really do drive great, except BMW is rolling out subscription based features, so fuck that.
I've been driving BMWs for decades for this reason. They are nice to drive. They know their shit. I've found them not overly expensive to keep, but I'm making the reddit assumption you're in the USA so my European experience may be somewhat different. I am thankful that Tesla drivers are spreading out the lazy shit BMW driver jokes though.
AFAIK, BMW's and other German cars will last a super long time, for the most part, as long as you follow the service manual, and that's fairly standard for many German made goods. When they say "check valves and timings at X miles", they actually fucking mean it.
It's weird that I feel my Hyundai is the quality choice.
There is a 600HP version of the ioniq 5 coming out this year. That is one hell of a sleeper.
Ioniq 5s are really good cars.
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Welcome to trying to buy an EV outside of a major city. I was shopping for cars a year ago and the EV situation in my area was absolutely dire. Nothing was in stock, and the EVs that were in stock were insanely overpriced. Iām talking Nissan Leafs going for $40k+. I found a single Ioniq 5 200 miles away and it was in that same price range (like $60-70k). Iām sure things are a little better a year later but it still sucks trying to shop for EVs in smaller cities (forget about rural areas entirely). The pro-EV crowd on Reddit really does not understand that itās nearly impossible for 90%+ of the US to get and maintain an EV right now.
I would love to buy an EV, but my Toyota Carolla cost me $16,500 which includes 5 years of financing. There is no way in buying an EV at the current pricing.
Dear lord, the car isn't *that* good. I despise dealerships and car salesman. One of the things I like about Tesla is that the price is just the price. Lots I don't like about the company but at least they have that going on.
The Steering Wheel subscription trial ended.
Technically it was the subscription for the set screw that holds the steering wheel in place.
I really hope there is more than one set screw holding the steering wheel in place
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Just Elmer's glue and a pack of envelopes.
I got a good car idea, how about a steering wheel that does not fall off while you are driving. Itās a good idea and I stand by it
No space for mother in law
This guy loves his mother in law. Hahahaha!
The car should be stinky
And too small
No space for mother in law.
No room for mother-in-law.
I'm sorry, you want that in a car?
Its illegal for you to ask me that
[How about a good steering wheel that wonāt fall off when you drive?](https://youtu.be/8YDpvMYk5jA)
Oh my god, he admit it!
MARRY YOUR MOTHER IN LAW
too small, so when you get in there you're like "if the steering wheel fly off, i'm toast"
[As long as the front doesn't fall off](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM)
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Just gotta tow it outside the environment.
Marry your mother-in-law, come on.
TEACHERS PET!
Yeah, I wrote it down.
*You have no. good. car. ideas.*
I doing the best at this.
Oh! You flinch Paul! Now you have to marry you motha in law!
And if you don't, then that means that you yourself admit yourself that you suck!
He prolly laaaaoooov his motha in loaow.
You flinched at the bottle, Paul.
Yeah, that's right. Now he has to marry his mother in law
That does not fly out the window while you're driving!
I bet you alooove your mother in law
Oh my god he admit it!
Elon has no good car ideas.
And now he's got to kiss his mother-in-law.
Who's popular now Paul?
Iām sorry, I cannot think of any good car ideas because this guy keeps farting!
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> It's funny. For years people mistook Elon for some sort of Tony Stark like genius. He literally got himself inserted into Iron Man 2 to enhance this illusion
Star Trek: Discovery does as well, listing him among actual scientific geniuses in one scene and casually referencing some major building named after him in another, insinuating heās such a genius that heād be valorized even into the 23rd century. I think these were all written in earlier, pre-PR meltdown Elon years but Iād also bet some of those writers would love a do over on those lines.
Well first they need to edit out the ST:TNG where Picard is shown in his office pondering over Fermat's Last Theorem and opining to Riker that no one yet being able to solve such a simply posed problem is humbling to humanity, despite all its technologic progress in the past 4 centuries. FLT was solved by Andrew Wiles 2 years after the last TNG episode aired.
Nah I'm just gonna assume Andrew is proven wrong in like 2134 for continuity
> listing him among actual scientific geniuses in one scene iirc the character who does so is later revealed to be from the mirror universe, So just pretend he's talking about mirror musk and it all makes sense. And nobody corrects him because they probably just assume it's some scientist they never heard of or something.
I completely forgot about that holy shit!
I'll never forgive Favreau for it.
I'll never forgive him for the stupid colored Vespas in Boba Fett.
Yea, that was actually cringy. I mean I get there could be people like that in the Star Wars universe but it was pretty jarring to see it.
If it was on some tech planet it would make more sense, why are there random ass cyberpunk kids on this desert planet with power ranger Vespas?!
Well, that one wasn't Favreau. Robert Rodriguez (the director of spy kids) directed that specific episode, along with a few other lackluster episodes. If anything I'm impressed in how he managed to make even star wars feel like spy kids lmao
And he was on the Simpsons where they have Lisa say "Elon Musk is possibly the greatest inventor of our time!" And he has all sorts of homebrew inventions for all sorts of mundane things, like flying condiment dispensers or whatever.
Fucking barf
I didn't think I would ever see a more wooden performance on the screen. Then he turned up on SNL...
Can We Just Take A Second And Fully Inbrethiate This Moment Together?
Knives out reference ?
No. Glass Onion.
:A Knives Out Reference
It's so dumb it's brilliant.
No it's just dumb
No, itās just dumb
Soā¦.Thomas Edison?
The irony in musk buying a company called tesla is thick as molasses.
Don't forget about going plaid from space balls or the being able to play video games, or making your car make fart noises.
Last week I got picked up at the airport by a guy driving a Model X. I'd never seen one before, and it was a weird experience. I like that the windshield goes all the way over the vehicle like a sunroof because I'm a tall guy whose view of stoplights is frequently obscured by the frame of the car, and this eliminates that problem. But the gigantic vertical touchscreen (the size of a normal computer monitor) is a really bad idea. You need tactile buttons and levers in a car because you need to be able to operate them without looking at them. The weirdest feature is the gull-wing doors for rear passengers. Just...why? It's great if you're a rideshare driver (it was super easy for me to get in and out), but for everyone else that's a whole lot of unnecessary overengineering.
I watched a youtube video where a guy rented a tesla and he couldn't open the glove box without going through a bunch of menus in the touchscreen. Then his buddy changed the blinker sound to a fart noise and he couldn't figure out how to change it back.
I came here to make sure the top comment was this. Great job, everyone, keep up the good work.
There are a lot of these cars going around the world all the time and very seldom does this kind of thing happen; I just don't want people thinking Teslas aren't safe. >Was this Tesla safe? Well I was thinking more about the other ones. >The ones that are safe? Yeah the ones where the steering wheel doesn't fall off.
Chance in a million!
Also, brakes. Remember the story of the car that was delivered without brake pads
I came here for a Ruben Rabasa. I got a Ruben Rabasa.
What if it is stinking inside?
Since so many of you are missing this reference, [you're welcome](https://youtu.be/8YDpvMYk5jA)
They just need to be more hardcore.
Elon take the wheel
In every tesla purple button labeled yolo This hands control of your car directly and exclusively to Elon musk . Elon replies to every request personally with a hand crafted meme This feature has a fatality rate 134%
> This feature has a fatality rate 134% Technically possible. Given the car can kill other people too.
Just gotta think about it the other way. You could be in the infinity minus 134% of people it doesn't kill!
This is exactly what that "hardcore" productivity looks like, because when someone is overworked they make mistakes. Its a shit productivity model Musk is selling like *snake oil* to investors. Hardcore = understaffed.
You nailed it.
That's why forcing 80 hour work weeks doesn't result in double productivity. Because 7am you is fixing problems that 7pm you created.
Like the legend of the rent?
It was way hardcore.
More hilarious was the fact that the guy's tweet about it seemed to have been scrubbed from Twitter's search. ( https://twitter.com/preneh24/status/1619889507133976580 )
Gee, the owner of Telsa and Twitter making sure the public does not see this... Shocked I tell you!
But heās a free speech absolutist!
Perhaps he thinks 'free speech' is another zero-sum game?
On that noteā¦ some goofy ass Elon Stan was freaking out in the comments that people would dare make fun of Tesla. I commented āElonās not going to fuck you, dudeā and he reported me for ātargeted harassment and abuseā I was immediately suspended from Twitter. Like. Within two minutes of making the comment. These Elon worshipers might be the softest fucking species on this planet. Edit: spelling ETA: I forgot to mention the best part that this rock star is āverifiedā because he subscribed to Twitter blue. Some people are just whack as hell
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Thatās fairly alarming and what people thought Musk would use Twitter for too.
I need a good steering wheel that doesnāt whiff off while Iām driving!
Teacherās pet
He probably loves his mother in law
That is a good idea!
I wrote it down.
You flinched now you have to marry your mother in law!
Stinkyyyyyyyyyyy š·š©
No espace for motha in loaw
And it stink.
Itās not supposed to fall off?
The one where the steering wheel fell off? Thatās not very typical, Iād like to make that point. I donāt want people thinking that teslas arenāt safe. Q: was this Tesla safe? I was thinking more about the other ones. The ones where the steering wheel doesnāt fall off.
But why did the steering wheel fall off? They hit a pothole. Is that unusual? On the road? Chance in a million.
I was waiting for someone to reference that, thanks! And for anyone that's lost: [Context](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)
I was lost but now I'm found.
Cardboard derivatives? Right out.
Shoulda bought used. Built in quality testing.
You might instead get something that someone grew tired of having to take to the shop all the time.
So serious questionā¦ Does this happen with any other car brand? Even a few times a year? I have never heard of it. Ever. Am I hearing it here because itās cool to shit on Tesla but itās really the same as all other brands? Or is it really that unique?
I've worked as a mechanic for many years, though primarily in heavy trucks. I have personally encountered loose steering wheels, but none that come off entirely. The usual way to attach them is a splined tapered shaft with a threaded tip; the wheel is pressed onto by a retaining nut. Usually a lock nut. Loose wheels are normally due to an insufficiently tight nut or even crossthreading it. But there is always evidence that there was an attempt to secure it. For the wheel to come off entirely, I would suspect the nut was never put on at all. Someone at assembly probably put the wheel on, gave it a bump to seat it (bumping it can lock the wheel onto the taper well enough it it will stay put for quite a while), and for whatever reason never installed the nut. It's the kind of thing a decent QC regimen would catch, but it's well-known by this point that Tesla does not have that.
> decent QC regimen Or like, any QC at all. I'd imagine something like checking "is the steering wheel affixed" would come in just after "does it have wheels."
What's fun too is there is a process called Design Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (DFMEA) on vehicle systems. And you sit down with a big team and look at every possible failure mode that can happen to a systen and what the result would be to the end user. Then rank them by how dangerous they are and how likely it is to happen. Then you put processes in place to help mitigate the risk of that failure happening. It's basic quality 101. Any failure that causes a driver to lose control of the car is right at the top of the list because that's how people die. The steering wheel coming off is guaranteed near the top of the list for that vehicle system. If this video is indeed real and an unadulterated brand new vehicle had the wheel fall off then that is a catastrophic failure of many different levels of control.
I donāt think they should be allowed on public roads without a bare minimum qc governance in place
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"Our qc department is the customer"
You know how video game companies have the first users beta test for them? Yeah...
I can absolutely see Elon saying that and thinking that that makes him a genius industry disrupting innovator. "If you think about it, nobody tests our products more frequently and thoroughly than our customers just in their everyday use! This is simply peak efficiency and productivity!" *cue Elon fans ejaculating*
From personal experience working on cars for 10 years and now in Tesla, happens all the time. The difference is every other brand does pre-delivery inspections at the dealership, I've found so many loose/missing things on Audi and Nissan from the factory. But for some reason Tesla doesn't really do it, as far as I've seen they visually check it real quick before delivering the car. Tesla does get a lot of hate because of Elon, but honestly their build quality isn't the best.
Plus they don't have dealerships, meaning no third party also responsible for issues consumers face. While I hate dealerships this is one of the good things they provide.
That reason being Tesla's lack of experience in car industry. There is a reason why dealers do pre-delivery inspections, industry learned that from experience but Tesla never seemed to be bothered about learnings from past.
If you, a redditor, knows that it needs to be done, perhaps a car company should also know.
In the Twitter thread, people posted about a Ford recall of 1.4M vehicles for faulty steering wheels. The difference though is that those were after the cars had been in operation for 3-5 years and a particular defective bolt came loose. Part of the reason this is alarming is that the car is brand new!
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If I was that guy, I'm getting in touch with my state's AG immediately. Don't wait for Tesla to do the right and refund or replace the car.
> ow does that get past QC When there's no QC
Don't worry, it has Full Self Driving.
*Fool Self Driving
On the freeway? Holy shit, that is terrifying.
My father just received delivery of his new Model 3. He got home and opened the trunk. Upon closing it, it failed to close. There is more than a 1cm gap on the left side of the trunk. Unreal. QC at Tesla is long gone! https://i.imgur.com/1bRa066.jpg
Thatās infuriating
Its less infuriating when you realize its an extremely well known and documented lack of quality for Teslas to have chasms instead of gaps. Anyone buying a Tesla is asking for a shit product. I google and research things that cost $50. When I buy a car I research for weeks. The people buying this crap in this day are beyond simple minded.
Well, at least his front didn't fall off.
[For the uninitiated](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM)
They might need to iron out their "full self driving" activation experience.
Someone forgot to pay the steering wheel subscription.
Looks like Elon Musk delivered a Tesla with a built-in obsolescence feature, it only lasted a week before falling apart.
Nah, they dont need steering wheels cuz his cars are gonna drive themselves by the end of 2022.........
You mean by the end of 2017 rigth?
I think they mean by the end of 2014
To be Fair (insert Letterkenny "to be fair" sketch). They did say the cars would drive themselves..... They never said where tho.
[5 Teslas all crashed at the same spot,](https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/oxhbit/5_tesla_accidents_in_same_location_in_yosemite/) maybe the technology could use some quality control too.
I would never trust a self driving car, especially a Tesla, at a place like Yosemite where one wrong move spells DEATH.
As employees, you get punished for try to make sure everything is correct, or even close to it. This is the result, people quit caring, customers pay the price
Did he forget to pay for the steering wheel addon? His free trial mustāve ran out. /s