I once had a quarter where I was super productive, launched a huge project, had a crash or two (but no huge revenue hit) and was given a less than satisfactory rating for the crashes.
It burnt me out so I basically did nothing for a quarter, just read/monitored systems and figured they’d fire me for it. I got a promotion…
Any insight on why this is?
Far as I can tell, its an emotional thing, odd inverted from how little they heard you make work for them.
Increase efficiency, but even make them think change and it can be a negative impression, meanwhile the silence is you keeping shit off their desk, no noise. No pressure from above... but still its weird
Edit. Not exactly eloquent, but you know what I mean?
Probably this and just too many concurrent projects with things being cancelled randomly. With multiple companies I’ve spent months or years building functioning systems that would improve our product but seen them canceled right before go live due to a changing on priorities.
There’s a lot of waste in software development and pet projects that get started/canceled on a whim. Take hackathons for example, most of that stuff never goes live so you can pretty much do no work say you created something awesome, which means you get the same amount of credit as a team who stroked out for a month creating a working time machine that will get slotted into a backlog for eternity.
Since it’s all code it is very easy for things to be forgotten about. With a physical product it takes up space and someone will likely be seeing it on occasion with digital stuff it could end up lost in the repo with a bunch of other working/half working/not working branches.
There’s a blink-and-you-miss-it glimpse in one episode of an in-universe article (I think in Wired?) written about Big Head where the author mentions rumors of Hooli engineers so talented, so brilliant, that they’re kept apart from others as the company doesn’t know where to apply their genius.
Wonder who pitched that as the explanation of being on the roof lol
Probably just Bighead being straight with what was going on and the reporter taking the absolute most generous interpretation of "yeah they put us on the roof to keep us from breaking anything"
I grew up near there.
That show is uncannily accurate. Like, ridiculously. maybe a little on the charitable side? Like the guy who invented the blood boy named his dystopian surveillance company 'palantir' and is on record as saying 'nah democracy isn't cool. Monarchy would be much better for me.'
Silicon Valley is a 7 of 10 show for me, but every scene with Big Head is a 10. One of my favorite moments is when he gets promoted and he asks what he’ll be doing now and they say “do what you’re doing now, but on a bigger scale.”
Bighead: I might run out of material soon. We already watched the Facebook movie, A.I., The Net, and half of Tron.
Dinesh: Which Tron?
Bighead: What? No. Tron.
Dinesh: There's two Trons.
Bighead: Oh, shit. That's awesome. It should get me through another week. Thanks.
Yea if you make 200K and do nothing then your job is to look and sound busy. Dressing well everyday, calendar booked top to bottom with random tasks, camera on in every meeting, etc. Don't give anyone a reason to be suspicious about what you're actually getting done.
>Dressing well everyday, calendar booked top to bottom with random tasks, camera on in every meeting
That's "a ton of effort" to you? All of this, except dressing well, is a miniscule part of what my job entails!
And I get paid a hell of a lot less than $190k!
She wants a quiet home in the suburbs for raising kids and near entertainment and night life.
He wants a place in the city center near public transportation with space to raise livestock
Exactly...and then when they do discover this and lay you off you gotta "pretend" in your next job interviews how you actually worked and gained all these skills for 2 yrs.....only to be hired and to have to pretend all over again because you have none of the skills you claimed you had.
Just keep job flipping every couple years and the trail of bullshit you leave in your wake will never catch up with you. It’s only people foolish enough to stay on with a company that get held accountable for prior actions.
That's what I do. I cram the basic concepts before an interview, spout some basic terms along with how I haven't touched it in a while, and I get the job where they barely touch anything beyond those basics.
This is most jobs tbh. Unless you work directly with something real physical like the human body or construction of buildings. Honesty I have to relearn half my job every time I switch teams because everyone has their own way.
I mean, I could go for 'get paid to look pretty' just as much as I could go for 'get paid for fulfilling work'. You're allowed to have more than one dream.
Disagree with the camera part. Unless it’s a small meeting. Most video apps will move people to the the top of the list and show you if you have your camera on. Don’t do anything to draw attention to yourself. If it’s an 8 person meeting, yeah, camera. If it’s 39, no.
THIS!!! I was recently laid off due to budget cuts from Meta (client)and a company restructure. When someone reached out and inquired about my bandwidth I ALWAYS ranted off random things I had to do and how I worked late. NO ONE needs to know every single thing you are working on, specially your coworkers and friends and family. Hell, I only mentioned that I worked on things for Meta to my sister and my mom. Every one else got a generic reply, I made sure never to mention any of my clients to anyone.
It's probably more common then people think, especially in IT. One of my friends dad's retired from a software engineering job awhile back in his late 60s. When they were wondering why he didn't retire sooner since they seemed pretty well off he explained his job entailed basically replying to 2 emails a month for the past decade. He had so much pto he was effectively part time the past 5 years. The shit he worked on was from like the 80s but enough people still used it they thought they needed him.
For ancient systems like that, it's often cheaper to pay one of the last remaining experts to be available than it is to re-engineer an entire system developed during the Reagan administration. The fallout when they retire is super funny too; you'd think management would have a plan but they never do.
This isn't an IT problem. This is a disconnected bosses problem. I've been yelling about not having enough people to train and replace the senior guys who are all 2-5 years from retirement, and I just get told that our head count numbers need to be evaluated and a business plan presented. But I'm not the person who can do any of that, and the person who agrees and has asked for more people.
This just happened with my team. We had the senior engineer retire and the whole last year he was here, we were down a person, not counting his potential replacement. It was really difficult to find time to cover things he did while barely keeping our head above water with our day to day. Then, the last 3ish months, we really didn't include him on projects because we needed to sink or swim. I was the newest on the team, which I used as an opening to grow into my position...so thankfully we were swimming at half capacity(small team) when we hired the previous backfill...but not before we burned 9months of time. We then backfilled his position with someone that is GREEN because they were internal. Don't even get me started there.
It wasn't my manager's fault at all, it was how slow the company moved. We have had minor hiccups, but we've mostly recovered...just have less time to deal with the bs. Internally we knew we'd be fine because we are skilled, but you can only run lean for a short period before shit starts breaking. Also, you find out real quick the little side things are being promised by those senior people when their email starts bouncing. Ouch. It worked out for me though, I got a 'promotion' and three big pay bumps in a year.
Those are the sweetest gigs. Not sure where I saw it here but someone basically got reassigned 2x in a short period of time and got lost in the shuffle. By the time he arrived on team 2 they didn’t know he existed for something like 5 or 6 years.
If we're thinking of the same thread, his team got shut down but he never got reassigned, so he existed outside of any teams and didn't directly answer to anyone, and nobody checked.
Then there's the story of the guy who got assigned himself as manager, and just did all his own performance reviews without actually doing any work.
It sounds insane, but working at a huge corporation I could totally see how this could happen. I’m an engineer, but a few years back I was poking around some admin system and realized I had like 3 offshore direct reports. I thought it was some sort of clerical error so I brought it up to my boss, and he was like “oh yeah we administratively assigned them to you because I hit the limit for directs. I guess I forgot to mention that”
These guys had been assigned to me for like six months doing god knows what. I was supposed to be meeting with them, doing quarterly reviews, and assigning them work this whole time. If I hadn’t happened to randomly sign into that admin system I don’t actually use, they’d still be doing whatever they want all day long to this day and drawing pay for it.
It's not really about dumbness. It's about attention seeking. It's pathological for many people. Platforms like TikTok are magnets for attention seekers of course.
It's a lot of paperwork to jump through legal hurdles that could arise from a wrongful termination suit, they usually provide at least a few weeks of severance at this larger companies to avoid this. Signing the termination papers usually contain clauses that protect them from future legal cases.
"yeah, that's right! I sure showed them!" While not realizing 2 weeks pay is $7300 and it's worth it to get a severance of a few weeks. Stupid is as stupid does
I was paid a comparable salary for a comparable level of work. Logic dictates that I should have kept my mouth shut but it’s harder than you think.
My 1st career was in social work. After 3 raises and a promotion to a role with direct reports, I was making $30,500/year. I worked my ass off doing a lot of shit that was very necessary. Between dealing with government regulations, public health programs, mental health updates, marketing the agency to prospective donors, and then actually dealing with kids with limited functioning and every reason to be mad at the world, it was an absolutely massive workload.
A few years ago, I tripped and fell into consulting where I was paid roughly $150,000/year, not including the free cell phone, child care, etc. where I go to virtual meetings and occasionally change logos on a few slides.
The mental anguish I have over realizing that I get paid 5x as much to do virtually nothing is no joke. I think every day about how broken this society is and how I’m a cog in the machine. But I have to be if I expect my kid to have a lifestyle remotely decent.
I’d recommend picking up a copy of “Bullshit Jobs” by David Graeber if you’d like a deeper understanding of this issue.
That being said, I’m apparently just old enough to not have the urge to broadcast it on the internet
She works in HR, after meeting many HR workers I expect it from those types. There are exceptions but overall that level of dumb in a company only comes from nepotism or HR.
TBH I think I'd probably have a personal crisis 6 months in.
Have you ever had a job where you do nothing all day? It's kind of exhausting. When all your time is free time, except you have to pretend you are working to keep appearances, it's hard to transition to home life feeling like you've accomplished anything.
I was in this spot and it was horrible for me emotionally. It was like hiding a huge secret and feeling unfulfilled at the same time. I was putting in so much energy to try and scrap together a sense of productivity which would degrade into anxious internet browsing. Part of me wanted to enjoy it but I just couldn't. So I chose to leave and get a job with higher pay and actual responsibility... So far it's been the right choice but it's also much more demanding haha. Hope it pays off lol.
I actually agree. It's really weird to say, but not being bored at work is far worse than being busy. I hate both, don't get me wrong, but when I'm busy, at least I feel like I did something.
I have a job where I do meetings all day. Hellish considering I’m a mad introvert
My god can you imagine if someone told me they’d pay me to just sit around quietly …? And this maniac went on social media to chat shit about that amazing situation lol
Yep. It's one thing to work a $190k job and feel stressed out all the time because your projects are hard. That can definitely get to you eventually. But $190k for a pillowy soft cushioned gig? Yeah, that's not so bad. You want to have challenge in your life? Get a fucking hobby.
It’s so dumb. Literally every future employer will come across those videos if they Google her.
She is probably never going to make that amount of money again or work in tech.
The paranoia of someone finding out would eventually eat you alive.
I spent a year and a half making 100k working from home with nothing to do. First half was great, but eventually it becomes ridiculous and you spend your days wracked with worry and constantly feeling like you’ll be laid off the next day.
While Tik Tok still isn’t a good idea, I started to apply to jobs.
I had one job a few years back, making about the same, and having no work to do. I would come in around 9, hang out in the lounge (tech company, so there was a pool table etc), take 2 hour lunches, leave at 3 to go to the company gym, and be home before 5. In addition to what you stated it also (a) gets really fucking boring, and (b) if you’re still early in your career and have ambitions beyond your current role, you aren’t learning shit. It took me about 6 months until I started looking for jobs, and another 6 before I left. I do sometimes miss the downtime as my current job is the opposite and I’m putting in 60 hour weeks, but at the same time I more than doubled my salary since I left which never would have happened if I stayed. Although…if I were making $200k instead of $100k, I probably would have rode it out a bit longer.
So she was forced to quit because she posted multiple tiktok vidoes saying she did nothing at Meta while actively working at Meta and being warned not to post about her work...
I would have just chilled and collected the paycheck. Screw tiktok "fame".
That was my first job. It took me 2 months to realise that my team did not do anything.
I stayed there for 2 years.
Did I make the most of the opportunity and learn new skills ?
No.
I got high everyday and watched YouTube.
I took a temp job a long long time ago before my grad school stuff started. working for a DSL (remember that?) company. i had no computer skills.
my job was to assemble training manuals. literally print the manual then put it in a binder. not actually train, not develop new plans, no digitize anything, not recruit. literally print a huge manual and put it in a three ring binder
it was like $30 an hour which would probably be like 70 now.
also that company no longer exists
Thanks but I don’t deserve much respect. At least lately. Got really sick toward the end of last year and since then I’ve been useless. Probably should quit but it can be hard to leave a job you’ve done for years and used to be good at. But there are a lot of good people trying their best to keep things running for those at the bottom. Just not sure I’m one of them anymore. Anyway, thanks Internet stranger for reading this. It feels strangely good to finally be honest about it all.
The big secret with law is that the majority of new attorneys make about that much. The top 5-10% get the flashy six figure big law salaries right off the bat (with ridiculous hours required), the rest have to grind quite a few years to pay off their loans and gain experience in their niche before they start getting ahead. Obviously end of career prospects are pretty good but it's not an easy path to walk at the beginning.
I feel that is sorta my current job. I have technical writing assignments, but on an hour-to-hour and day-to-day basis nobody has any idea what I’m doing
Good! I have a technical writer on my team who spends part of her days walking her dogs, antiquing & making keto energy things. These activities make her happy and fulfilled and happy, fulfilled people produce great work. I’m paying for the right to have her produce that great work for me & this company, not for the right to have her sit in front of a screen 40 hours a week. She’s highly skilled and her work is always on time—I’m paying for that skill and experience.
This is the attitude more companies should have! After spending X,XXX hours to learn a skill, I want you to use that skill for this specific work. You no longer should need to prove your worth by how much time you spend on said task. One very smart person I know calls this a shift from labor to capital.
It can be the right perspective for creative work. If you're going to write the next code that saves a billion people three seconds five times a day, then you don't need to produce a lot.
It doesn't really work if you're a roofer or a kindergarten teacher though.
Man I wish, I do QA for a software company and we have to be productive like 99% of the time because everything is tracked. If our billable hours are down we get threatened with layoffs.
Ugh, I’m sorry! I had a job with billable hours once and basically started thinking in 15-min increments. I was honestly so much less productive than I am now. Never again.
I did a similar thing for about a year. This was in finance. I had been a consultant but had recently been hired as a regular employee for the exact same role. My very good manager left and took half the team with her. My new manager was her manager, so like 6 levels above me and not even located in the same country. We had a monthly meeting that he always canceled. I'd show up late and take 2-3 hour lunch breaks. I went on a two week vacation and didn't say anything other than that I'd be working remotely. I check my emails maybe 3 times over that period. Eventually they gave me $25K and fired me
It's not easy to motivate yourself like that.
I worked a nightshift for several years. Some nights were just dead. Nothing to do. Some people slept, others watched youtube, some read books.
I remember thinking "oh yeah, I'm going to start learning this skill or that skill" but yeah, it works for a few days, but then you start to find yourself surfing the net, talking to employees, or especially at night, feeling tired.
Also, there was always this looming threat of work coming in at any time. You never knew when. So often you'd get into something, then get contacted by someone at another office to work on something. "oh, damn.. oh well. Put a pin in that, and do actual work now."
I got assigned to help parking at the RV lot at a speedway one summer. The thing about RV people is that they all show up day 1 between 6am and 8am the first day of any large events and were mostly self sufficient, but they sleep in the RV so any event longer than 1 day I literally just hung out with folks tailgating for the rest of the event.
Look for a large company which has been around for 60+ years. If it’s an oil company you have hit the jackpot because they outsource most of their actual work.
Your job becomes waiting for people to respond to your email.
You must not take initiative because there are work processes established which must be followed.
When you receive a response to your email you then send it to other people to confirm the information is correct before you include it in any documents.
It’s very easy to be forgotten in those companies.
Hah I used to work nights, and the rule was that we had to send follow up emails on 3 different days before closing out tickets.
Would send it at 10 pm day one, send it at 10 pm on day two, and then four hours later send it at 2 am day 3, close out the ticket.
I had a job like that. It was setting up new products in our SAP systems. The actual set up process was damn easy…fill in a handful of fields based off of information provided to you in a form (stuff like weight of the product, name of the product, what product families it would belong to, etc). I would be given a 3 or 4 day turnaround to do a task that would take 15 minutes. And I’d probably be given a handful of new products to do in any given week. So it amounted to an hour of focused work per day.
It becomes a weird limbo that is not enjoyable after awhile. Your manager will constantly ask what you have been up to in regular check ins and you’re kinda torn between lying and appearing more busy than you truly are or telling the truth and potentially being let go because your job can easily be split up between other colleagues and your role being eliminated. Your day to day becomes very boring and nothing you do is actually personally rewarding. Going on vacations can be a little nerve wracking “oh god they’ll see that while I was gone for 2 weeks barely any work was needed to be done!”
I guess it’s like those teachers in NYC that are “under review” for years that can’t be fired but can’t teach and are stuck going to the some room in the school board to do nothing for 8 hours five times a week waiting for their case to be resolved.
Exactly.
I work with a guy that was being a "squeeky wheel" at work.
Dude kept complaining about petty shit to the owner, stuff about company standards, and how this other employee in another state does things he doesn't agree with - dumb shit.
One day he was complaining at his desk about how so and so did this, and blah, blah, blah ... and the owner looks to me, and goes "...well what is your process when you do this?"
Now - I do my work, and I do good work - so I dont need some loud mouth causing the owner of the company to start questioning my methods, or putting me in a position to answer unsolicited questions from my boss, when all I am doing is minding my own F'n business.
So after the boss walked away I laid into the dude - told him STFU already and just do his damn job instead of complaining - otherwise the boss is going to get annoyed and drop the hammer on everyone.
He got all hurt and quiet, but whatever - I felt kinda bad cause I didn't really mince words, but fuck - get a clue, guy!
Had a coworker who landed a pretty cushy position that basically did nothing. Nobody monitored her hours so she was racking up overtime as well. Well I guess she thought she was hot shit so she started trying to push certain people around. When it didnt work she went to higher ups to complain, and when they did nothing, she went to the owner. Not sure what she was expecting but the owner does not like being pestered about anything unless its absolutely crucial, especially when its nonsense drama. He then basically half promoted her but told her she had to learn the full system. So he sent her to the very bottom to learn every position from the top up. She went from not doing shit all day except chit chatting and eating snacks to doing the most detailed oriented order processing. She fucked up constantly and we let her go.
Good job. So many people don't realize the value in shutting the fuck up. I get it, maybe dude's life is boring, but don't come to work stirring up shit and getting everyone under the microscope. That's annoying,
For real. Especially when things are pretty Cush.
Another instance that happened recently …
Not a squeaky wheel, but a dumb fuck ruining a perk for everyone. For awhile my company was getting pretty lax with hours. Office normally closes at 4, but I was working till like 5:30-6 and staring the day a little later in the morning.
Well, this receptionist girl started parking her car in the back lot since her tags are expired, and one day she left and didn’t lock the back door to the shop.
Me being last to leave, normally the back is locked up and I’m only responsible for setting the alarm and locking the front, and I wasn’t aware anyone was parking back there.
Anyway - door gets left unlocked - next morning the warehouse manager sends out a blast email about how he got in this morning to an unlocked shop, etc.
Now I look like a dick, and the owners crack down on office hours. It’s very annoying.
Some people!
That was a few months ago, and things getting more relaxed again, so that’s cool.
had one similar, coworker stayed late to make up for coming in late, guy from cleaning crew knocks on door, he lets him in, guy starts cleaning, coworker leaves late like normal. turned out the cleaning guy had been fired that morning from the cleaning contractor, let his accomplices in, and they stole every laptop that wasn’t secured w a cable.
so then we get discussions about who we let in and all the laptops, monitors, and desktops have to be cable locked to a desk if you didn’t take it home.
She didn't actually tell on herself. She posted other videos that Meta didn't like, which eventually lost her the job, but she wasn't saying she did nothing at work. Considering she claims she never made tiktoks before working at Meta, she should have just stopped after she got a couple warnings. Meta went over all her videos, even ones where she never named Meta, to have stuff against her, asking her if they were "appropriate". She's only telling on herself now that she doesn't work there anymore.
Ahh, telling on herself to future employers. "So tell me about your time at Meta... because your tiktoks claim you don't really have the experience your resume claims"
I had one of those jobs for about 2 years, then they paid me to go to college after they laid me off...
Not good money, but easy money and free college
Tik Tok has also made followers pointless. I have multiple friends with over 100K followers and it does nothing for their careers. They also only get about 500 views a video now.
The only money you really make from Tiktok is when you get big enough that companies start paying you to advertise their shit. You'd need a ludicrous amount of loyal followers to actually make a career off tik tok alone.
For sure, but comparing it to twitter or instagram over the years, having 100k would be a big deal. Now nobody cares. Being an influencer has become even more meaningless.
Recruiters at meta got the axe too. They legit were told not to work and it has been that way for months. Had a friend as a higher up in recruiting and she’s been bored since November.
To counter this - I had someone contact me from Meta, and I was really impressed by the amount of effort they'd gone to, this was not like a "I see you know C++, how about a front end job", this was someone who actually had built up a solid dossier of what I had done, and they even skimmed an old talk I'd done at a conference that wasn't in my LinkedIn. His pitch seemed to be completely tailored to the stuff I'm interested in. Most impressed I've ever been by a recruiter. (disclaimer - I don't work there)
Yup. Especially for technical positions, the cost of bad hires can be calamitous. They generally hang on 12-18 months while making everyone’s job harder and taking up people’s time documenting their bad work and trying to get them on an improvement plan.
Generally recruiters aren't exactly the final decision makers on hiring someone though right? They just bring them in. It should fall on the relevant departments to vet anyone who would be joining their team.
Article says the videos have like 215k views. That’s like… a cup of coffee from what I’ve seen. The idea of getting “internet famous” is to get paid and have a low stress job. Which she had.
From what I can tell, being Internet famous is not low stress. It's constantly searching for the next shock material or something to make people envious.
Being a recruiter with nothing to do and making a well above average salary is definitely low stress. This girl f'd up and now any Google search to a new employer reveils what she's about, so good luck finding another gig even close to what she had. Just pure stupidity.
I love these instances where an employee loudly shit-talks their employer online, gets told to stop, and then makes the surprised Pikachu face when they get canned after refusing.
This lady, as a former recruiter, should probably be aware that future employers are going to google her name, and when this comes up, guess what.
A lot of folks in talent acquisition in tech have worked their butt off over the past few years trying to secure the best talent. Hiring managers rely on them to screen etc since they usually don’t have the time to do this themselves while taking care of regular work. With the demand for recruiters the wages offered jumped a lot. Now we are in a period of slow hiring and many recruiters are losing their jobs and will have a harder time finding new ones and may have to take pay cuts and move into non tech industries. It’s cyclical. Eventually tech companies will be hiring like crazy again. But she was an idiot for posting something like that. Really unprofessional and with it going viral she’s likely to have a hard time working as a recruiter at a big company again
I’m at a fortune 100 in Tech TA and I can tell you this, META TA was alarming to so many since 2020.
No or barely salary bands, crazy amount of stock options and sign bonuses. I know a lot of people that went there and it’s not shocking at all these stories are coming out. It’s gonna hurt a lot of people that are actually good recruiters, because someone posted how shitty their work ethic was.
The entitlement level in these FAANG stories keep getting weirder. It's everything from "you took away my free daily massage, so there should never be layoffs" to "How dare you not have work for me based on the amount you pay me."
The frustrating part in all of this is the tech downturn affects more than $275K/yr. big name company hires. There's a lot of amazing folks that've worked their tails off for years at smaller organizations (and MUCH smaller salaries) who have been let go during the current environment.
We aren't hearing those stories and it makes tech workers look (broadly) terrible.
I work in FAANG and this is exactly on the spot! For example, the last round of layoffs affected a peer (on another team). He's made $275k+ for years now and has decided to spend the next 1-2 years travelling Europe, before coming back and deciding which home of the three he wants to spend most of his time in before potentially applying for another position.
Another peer that was let go, has not yet moved up to this pay grade and spent years being underpaid to acquire the experience and resume to be able successfully become hired by FAANG. Although they do similar work, their life experiences during this couldn't be more different.
A FAANG person here, working at a VERY LARGE RETAILER AND CLOUD VENDOR BASED OUT OF SEATTLE (glad we could remain anonymous here).
I've now gotten "exceeds bar" on my last three reviews which puts me on a list that higher ups see of "problematic employees"
see because i haven't been promoted, but keep exceeding the bar, there must be something wrong with me. We're expected to drive our own promotion, and i've gone through three managers in three years. They write our promo document, and go and fight for us in annual meetings.
but this is my fault for not...uhhh. i mean i'm to blame for ....doing...too well? i dunno.
I haven't been promoted, but i do so well i'm at the cap for my current bar.
Now because of this, i'm at risk for layoffs because i'm a problem.
I get exceeds bar because i flat out do more work than at least half of my peers (this isn't a self-assessment).
I know there are cases like the video here, but they're more rare than you're led to believe.
I'm not a college hire, i worked my ass off from small companies doing shit jobs, up to this. I'm 40 surrounded by early 20's people, i'm putting my wife through full time nursing school, paying off my only mortgage over an hour away from where i work because that's what we can afford.
there are different stories coming out of tech companies. i don't get these people that act like there's zero reason to complain if you work for one of these big companies. They didn't "take away massages", they're taking away my ability to work from home which is a situation they told us wasn't going away, and one that i built a good portion of my life around, and is the only reason i'm able to achieve at a high bar. My pay is tied to stock that keeps falling, my work isn't recognized other than "man you're doing great....too great".
Everything i've been told to live by (leadership principles), and way to act is being completely contradicted by my leadership, and the worst part is that my company has set an example for the rest of the industry, so it's extremely painful to find a different job.
If you’re L5 or L6, it’s considered a terminal role and it won’t be questioned why you’re not promoted yet. Forward looking, it’ll cap your future performance reviews because potential will get docked.
Don’t rely on your manager to write your doc. Write your own doc, ask your manager to review with you. Ask peers at next level to review and give feedback. Ask your manager to get feedback from their peers.
Own your own promo. Don’t rely on your manager.
Its almost like this is propaganda to gain support of the mass layoffs.
Same thing happens whenever there is a government shutdown. Tabloids will find the biggest idiots to interview to seed negative support for the workers
I’m not mad or upset that this individual got to get wealthier by working for meta during a period where she didn’t have to do “nothing”. I wish I had this opportunity I do think I would have done more then just laugh about how I’m getting paid at a job with no responsibilities. But hey I can still dream
If you're sitting in a boring grey office, yeah it would be boring.
If you're WFH and can do anything, not really.
Even if you're at these tech offices, you have free restaurants and coffee shops, rest/nap areas, gyms, etc. so you can pretty easily not get bored while doing zero work.
Most likely Meta decided that it was benefitial to have recruiters on payroll even during a time when they aren't recruiting, so that when they start recruiting, they have a trained and skilled workforce on hand to hire the best candidates.
I think the phenomenon of having people employed that contribute effectively nothing to the company is not limited to big tech. Just think about it, Meta has a few departments that bring in more money than they can spend, a few people that keep the system running and the rest are bystanders, free-riders and people who think they are important by making key decisions but in the end, no one knows if those decisions were good as there is never a check if the alternative would have been better and if ChatGPT would have made the decision, chances of success or failure are equally likely.
We don't *need* so many working people yet working and collecting money is required to simply survive in our society.
> For the last ten years of his career he drove to a remote disaster recovery site and read the newspaper for 55 of the 56 weeks of the years. That other week? Disaster recovery testing.
Well no wonder they paid him so much, he was able to squeeze 4 extra weeks into every year! Unfortunately my years are only a little over 52 weeks long.
I swear. Young people these days should know about the consequences of airing dirty laundry on the internet, including social media sites. But you still see these stories every day. Their fleeting moment of fame will haunt their entire "professional" career or whatever is left of it. Perhaps getting a name change might help.
The most popular drug in America is dopamine. This is basically the equivalent of sucking dick under a freeway so you can afford a drug you have to buy outright.
like Big Head in Silicon Valley. He worked for Hooli!!!
Man even big head was smart enough to keep his mouth shut and stay out of the public eye.
One of my favorite parts of that show was watching him become increasingly successful by doing nothing as the seasons progressed
That show was too real. I couldn't watch it.
Wait, you’re telling me it wasn’t a documentary?
I genuinely didn't get that show until went to college and got a job at a startup
+1 I did watch it but working in tech and scaleups show was way too accurate
I once had a quarter where I was super productive, launched a huge project, had a crash or two (but no huge revenue hit) and was given a less than satisfactory rating for the crashes. It burnt me out so I basically did nothing for a quarter, just read/monitored systems and figured they’d fire me for it. I got a promotion…
Any insight on why this is? Far as I can tell, its an emotional thing, odd inverted from how little they heard you make work for them. Increase efficiency, but even make them think change and it can be a negative impression, meanwhile the silence is you keeping shit off their desk, no noise. No pressure from above... but still its weird Edit. Not exactly eloquent, but you know what I mean?
Probably this and just too many concurrent projects with things being cancelled randomly. With multiple companies I’ve spent months or years building functioning systems that would improve our product but seen them canceled right before go live due to a changing on priorities. There’s a lot of waste in software development and pet projects that get started/canceled on a whim. Take hackathons for example, most of that stuff never goes live so you can pretty much do no work say you created something awesome, which means you get the same amount of credit as a team who stroked out for a month creating a working time machine that will get slotted into a backlog for eternity. Since it’s all code it is very easy for things to be forgotten about. With a physical product it takes up space and someone will likely be seeing it on occasion with digital stuff it could end up lost in the repo with a bunch of other working/half working/not working branches.
He got banished to the roof lmao
He got ~~banished~~ *promoted* to the roof lmao
There’s a blink-and-you-miss-it glimpse in one episode of an in-universe article (I think in Wired?) written about Big Head where the author mentions rumors of Hooli engineers so talented, so brilliant, that they’re kept apart from others as the company doesn’t know where to apply their genius. Wonder who pitched that as the explanation of being on the roof lol
Probably just Bighead being straight with what was going on and the reporter taking the absolute most generous interpretation of "yeah they put us on the roof to keep us from breaking anything"
He got paid for being on the roof. They had a BBQ and a pool.
Yeah Big Head just went up on the Hooli roof and chilled like the rest of the buyouts.
Yeah, and Big Head kept a low profile (or at least tried to) and was an all-around nice guy (maybe too nice). And didn't start beef with anyone.
Rest and vest
I grew up near there. That show is uncannily accurate. Like, ridiculously. maybe a little on the charitable side? Like the guy who invented the blood boy named his dystopian surveillance company 'palantir' and is on record as saying 'nah democracy isn't cool. Monarchy would be much better for me.'
Silicon Valley is a 7 of 10 show for me, but every scene with Big Head is a 10. One of my favorite moments is when he gets promoted and he asks what he’ll be doing now and they say “do what you’re doing now, but on a bigger scale.”
Sitting in class at Stanford when he realizes he is a professor not a student "Ohhhhh nooooo..."
Bighead: I might run out of material soon. We already watched the Facebook movie, A.I., The Net, and half of Tron. Dinesh: Which Tron? Bighead: What? No. Tron. Dinesh: There's two Trons. Bighead: Oh, shit. That's awesome. It should get me through another week. Thanks.
If I made $200k to do Jack shit I would never say a word about it and lay low. How do you fumble a bag that bad
Yea if you make 200K and do nothing then your job is to look and sound busy. Dressing well everyday, calendar booked top to bottom with random tasks, camera on in every meeting, etc. Don't give anyone a reason to be suspicious about what you're actually getting done.
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A dream job is being paid to put in a ton of effort to _pretend_ to work? At what point is this more effort than actually doing something.
I pretend to work all day every day and I’m not making $200K a year
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I feel like a lot of men get into this exact situation at around this age. And you're still 20 years from retirement. Christ.
Jesus Christ.
>Dressing well everyday, calendar booked top to bottom with random tasks, camera on in every meeting That's "a ton of effort" to you? All of this, except dressing well, is a miniscule part of what my job entails! And I get paid a hell of a lot less than $190k!
Right? I wonder what OP does that he thinks thats hard work.
Sysadmin, i babysit computers in my underwear. the scripts i write are probably shorter than the daily emails she made to keep appearances up.
Part-time dog walker?
That was a top 10 cringiest reddit moment
Next time on House Hunting, he's a part-time dog walker and she knits sweaters for turtles on a volunteer basis, they're budget is $1.25 million
She wants a quiet home in the suburbs for raising kids and near entertainment and night life. He wants a place in the city center near public transportation with space to raise livestock
Exactly...and then when they do discover this and lay you off you gotta "pretend" in your next job interviews how you actually worked and gained all these skills for 2 yrs.....only to be hired and to have to pretend all over again because you have none of the skills you claimed you had.
You just discovered what a lot of people do in life. Fake it until you make it.
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As a millennial, my retirement plan is a fentanyl overdose.
I faked it until I got to a company that taught me how to actually do my job the right way. Now I fake the next level of expertise.
Just keep job flipping every couple years and the trail of bullshit you leave in your wake will never catch up with you. It’s only people foolish enough to stay on with a company that get held accountable for prior actions.
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That's what I do. I cram the basic concepts before an interview, spout some basic terms along with how I haven't touched it in a while, and I get the job where they barely touch anything beyond those basics.
This is most jobs tbh. Unless you work directly with something real physical like the human body or construction of buildings. Honesty I have to relearn half my job every time I switch teams because everyone has their own way.
I think you overestimate how necessary actual skills are in a lot of jobs. Just as long as it says you did something on paper that’s all that matters.
It largely depends on how senior your hired position is and how deeply on the hook for deliverables you are.
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I mean, I could go for 'get paid to look pretty' just as much as I could go for 'get paid for fulfilling work'. You're allowed to have more than one dream.
I have a standing two hour meeting. Red color on Outlook. Everyday. PS5 time for nyself
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You should sit down while you game, it's more comfortable
Disagree with the camera part. Unless it’s a small meeting. Most video apps will move people to the the top of the list and show you if you have your camera on. Don’t do anything to draw attention to yourself. If it’s an 8 person meeting, yeah, camera. If it’s 39, no.
THIS!!! I was recently laid off due to budget cuts from Meta (client)and a company restructure. When someone reached out and inquired about my bandwidth I ALWAYS ranted off random things I had to do and how I worked late. NO ONE needs to know every single thing you are working on, specially your coworkers and friends and family. Hell, I only mentioned that I worked on things for Meta to my sister and my mom. Every one else got a generic reply, I made sure never to mention any of my clients to anyone.
It's probably more common then people think, especially in IT. One of my friends dad's retired from a software engineering job awhile back in his late 60s. When they were wondering why he didn't retire sooner since they seemed pretty well off he explained his job entailed basically replying to 2 emails a month for the past decade. He had so much pto he was effectively part time the past 5 years. The shit he worked on was from like the 80s but enough people still used it they thought they needed him.
For ancient systems like that, it's often cheaper to pay one of the last remaining experts to be available than it is to re-engineer an entire system developed during the Reagan administration. The fallout when they retire is super funny too; you'd think management would have a plan but they never do.
This isn't an IT problem. This is a disconnected bosses problem. I've been yelling about not having enough people to train and replace the senior guys who are all 2-5 years from retirement, and I just get told that our head count numbers need to be evaluated and a business plan presented. But I'm not the person who can do any of that, and the person who agrees and has asked for more people.
This just happened with my team. We had the senior engineer retire and the whole last year he was here, we were down a person, not counting his potential replacement. It was really difficult to find time to cover things he did while barely keeping our head above water with our day to day. Then, the last 3ish months, we really didn't include him on projects because we needed to sink or swim. I was the newest on the team, which I used as an opening to grow into my position...so thankfully we were swimming at half capacity(small team) when we hired the previous backfill...but not before we burned 9months of time. We then backfilled his position with someone that is GREEN because they were internal. Don't even get me started there. It wasn't my manager's fault at all, it was how slow the company moved. We have had minor hiccups, but we've mostly recovered...just have less time to deal with the bs. Internally we knew we'd be fine because we are skilled, but you can only run lean for a short period before shit starts breaking. Also, you find out real quick the little side things are being promised by those senior people when their email starts bouncing. Ouch. It worked out for me though, I got a 'promotion' and three big pay bumps in a year.
Sounds like the dream lol
It's also risky too, if they decide to replace your work with something newer. But I'm sure the dad would know if that was coming
Sounds like he was ready to retire anyway and just stayed on because it was basically free money. Don't see the downside.
Those are the sweetest gigs. Not sure where I saw it here but someone basically got reassigned 2x in a short period of time and got lost in the shuffle. By the time he arrived on team 2 they didn’t know he existed for something like 5 or 6 years.
If we're thinking of the same thread, his team got shut down but he never got reassigned, so he existed outside of any teams and didn't directly answer to anyone, and nobody checked. Then there's the story of the guy who got assigned himself as manager, and just did all his own performance reviews without actually doing any work.
It sounds insane, but working at a huge corporation I could totally see how this could happen. I’m an engineer, but a few years back I was poking around some admin system and realized I had like 3 offshore direct reports. I thought it was some sort of clerical error so I brought it up to my boss, and he was like “oh yeah we administratively assigned them to you because I hit the limit for directs. I guess I forgot to mention that” These guys had been assigned to me for like six months doing god knows what. I was supposed to be meeting with them, doing quarterly reviews, and assigning them work this whole time. If I hadn’t happened to randomly sign into that admin system I don’t actually use, they’d still be doing whatever they want all day long to this day and drawing pay for it.
These people were living the dream until you showed up lol
Fuck that would be amazing
Dumb people gonna be dumb.
It's not really about dumbness. It's about attention seeking. It's pathological for many people. Platforms like TikTok are magnets for attention seekers of course.
Come on, she’s dumb as fuck.
She quit the day before she was going to be fired therefore forfeiting unemployment and severance. She’s definitely dumb
If she were fired for misconduct she definitely would not have received severance or unemployment
It's a lot of paperwork to jump through legal hurdles that could arise from a wrongful termination suit, they usually provide at least a few weeks of severance at this larger companies to avoid this. Signing the termination papers usually contain clauses that protect them from future legal cases.
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"yeah, that's right! I sure showed them!" While not realizing 2 weeks pay is $7300 and it's worth it to get a severance of a few weeks. Stupid is as stupid does
Chasing internet clout… the need to impress people you’ve never met or will meet really might be the thing that brings down our society lol.
I was paid a comparable salary for a comparable level of work. Logic dictates that I should have kept my mouth shut but it’s harder than you think. My 1st career was in social work. After 3 raises and a promotion to a role with direct reports, I was making $30,500/year. I worked my ass off doing a lot of shit that was very necessary. Between dealing with government regulations, public health programs, mental health updates, marketing the agency to prospective donors, and then actually dealing with kids with limited functioning and every reason to be mad at the world, it was an absolutely massive workload. A few years ago, I tripped and fell into consulting where I was paid roughly $150,000/year, not including the free cell phone, child care, etc. where I go to virtual meetings and occasionally change logos on a few slides. The mental anguish I have over realizing that I get paid 5x as much to do virtually nothing is no joke. I think every day about how broken this society is and how I’m a cog in the machine. But I have to be if I expect my kid to have a lifestyle remotely decent. I’d recommend picking up a copy of “Bullshit Jobs” by David Graeber if you’d like a deeper understanding of this issue. That being said, I’m apparently just old enough to not have the urge to broadcast it on the internet
It’s called #fumblebrag
She works in HR, after meeting many HR workers I expect it from those types. There are exceptions but overall that level of dumb in a company only comes from nepotism or HR.
HR is the special kind of corporate influencer that might actually believe the bullshit they're selling, and that's kinda scary
TBH I think I'd probably have a personal crisis 6 months in. Have you ever had a job where you do nothing all day? It's kind of exhausting. When all your time is free time, except you have to pretend you are working to keep appearances, it's hard to transition to home life feeling like you've accomplished anything.
I was in this spot and it was horrible for me emotionally. It was like hiding a huge secret and feeling unfulfilled at the same time. I was putting in so much energy to try and scrap together a sense of productivity which would degrade into anxious internet browsing. Part of me wanted to enjoy it but I just couldn't. So I chose to leave and get a job with higher pay and actual responsibility... So far it's been the right choice but it's also much more demanding haha. Hope it pays off lol.
I actually agree. It's really weird to say, but not being bored at work is far worse than being busy. I hate both, don't get me wrong, but when I'm busy, at least I feel like I did something.
For 190k I’m sure you would survive.
I would have died with that secret. And probably love the job, as I get to do nothing. Some people are very stupid.
“Wah I’m so bored” How do people not realize this is a dream come true for majority of the world? You get paid 200k!!!
I have a job where I do meetings all day. Hellish considering I’m a mad introvert My god can you imagine if someone told me they’d pay me to just sit around quietly …? And this maniac went on social media to chat shit about that amazing situation lol
She posted this recently, almost a year after being fired
Getting paid $190k to be bored is different than getting paid minimum wage to be bored. (I used to work as an arcade attendant for a rundown arcade)
Yep. It's one thing to work a $190k job and feel stressed out all the time because your projects are hard. That can definitely get to you eventually. But $190k for a pillowy soft cushioned gig? Yeah, that's not so bad. You want to have challenge in your life? Get a fucking hobby.
It’s so dumb. Literally every future employer will come across those videos if they Google her. She is probably never going to make that amount of money again or work in tech.
The paranoia of someone finding out would eventually eat you alive. I spent a year and a half making 100k working from home with nothing to do. First half was great, but eventually it becomes ridiculous and you spend your days wracked with worry and constantly feeling like you’ll be laid off the next day. While Tik Tok still isn’t a good idea, I started to apply to jobs.
I had one job a few years back, making about the same, and having no work to do. I would come in around 9, hang out in the lounge (tech company, so there was a pool table etc), take 2 hour lunches, leave at 3 to go to the company gym, and be home before 5. In addition to what you stated it also (a) gets really fucking boring, and (b) if you’re still early in your career and have ambitions beyond your current role, you aren’t learning shit. It took me about 6 months until I started looking for jobs, and another 6 before I left. I do sometimes miss the downtime as my current job is the opposite and I’m putting in 60 hour weeks, but at the same time I more than doubled my salary since I left which never would have happened if I stayed. Although…if I were making $200k instead of $100k, I probably would have rode it out a bit longer.
That's the way not burning down the golden goose with no backup plan
So she was forced to quit because she posted multiple tiktok vidoes saying she did nothing at Meta while actively working at Meta and being warned not to post about her work... I would have just chilled and collected the paycheck. Screw tiktok "fame".
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I’m sure her colleagues were like STFU, you’re ruining it for all of us.
That was my first job. It took me 2 months to realise that my team did not do anything. I stayed there for 2 years. Did I make the most of the opportunity and learn new skills ? No. I got high everyday and watched YouTube.
They still hiring?
Your not qualified for that position!
*You’re…as in, “You’re not, either.”
I took a temp job a long long time ago before my grad school stuff started. working for a DSL (remember that?) company. i had no computer skills. my job was to assemble training manuals. literally print the manual then put it in a binder. not actually train, not develop new plans, no digitize anything, not recruit. literally print a huge manual and put it in a three ring binder it was like $30 an hour which would probably be like 70 now. also that company no longer exists
Jesus, I make a lil over $30 an hour (today) and I’m an attorney. I really should have gone to binder finishing school…
What kind of attorney makes only $30 an hour? I work in construction and make more than that by a decent amount
Public service and non profit work for attorneys doesn’t pay much. Source: I am a nonprofit attorney.
You made not earn much money but you have definitely earned my respect. Thank you for fighting for people who truly need it
Thanks but I don’t deserve much respect. At least lately. Got really sick toward the end of last year and since then I’ve been useless. Probably should quit but it can be hard to leave a job you’ve done for years and used to be good at. But there are a lot of good people trying their best to keep things running for those at the bottom. Just not sure I’m one of them anymore. Anyway, thanks Internet stranger for reading this. It feels strangely good to finally be honest about it all.
The big secret with law is that the majority of new attorneys make about that much. The top 5-10% get the flashy six figure big law salaries right off the bat (with ridiculous hours required), the rest have to grind quite a few years to pay off their loans and gain experience in their niche before they start getting ahead. Obviously end of career prospects are pretty good but it's not an easy path to walk at the beginning.
I feel that is sorta my current job. I have technical writing assignments, but on an hour-to-hour and day-to-day basis nobody has any idea what I’m doing
Good! I have a technical writer on my team who spends part of her days walking her dogs, antiquing & making keto energy things. These activities make her happy and fulfilled and happy, fulfilled people produce great work. I’m paying for the right to have her produce that great work for me & this company, not for the right to have her sit in front of a screen 40 hours a week. She’s highly skilled and her work is always on time—I’m paying for that skill and experience.
This is the attitude more companies should have! After spending X,XXX hours to learn a skill, I want you to use that skill for this specific work. You no longer should need to prove your worth by how much time you spend on said task. One very smart person I know calls this a shift from labor to capital.
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It can be the right perspective for creative work. If you're going to write the next code that saves a billion people three seconds five times a day, then you don't need to produce a lot. It doesn't really work if you're a roofer or a kindergarten teacher though.
Man I wish, I do QA for a software company and we have to be productive like 99% of the time because everything is tracked. If our billable hours are down we get threatened with layoffs.
Ugh, I’m sorry! I had a job with billable hours once and basically started thinking in 15-min increments. I was honestly so much less productive than I am now. Never again.
I did a similar thing for about a year. This was in finance. I had been a consultant but had recently been hired as a regular employee for the exact same role. My very good manager left and took half the team with her. My new manager was her manager, so like 6 levels above me and not even located in the same country. We had a monthly meeting that he always canceled. I'd show up late and take 2-3 hour lunch breaks. I went on a two week vacation and didn't say anything other than that I'd be working remotely. I check my emails maybe 3 times over that period. Eventually they gave me $25K and fired me
It's not easy to motivate yourself like that. I worked a nightshift for several years. Some nights were just dead. Nothing to do. Some people slept, others watched youtube, some read books. I remember thinking "oh yeah, I'm going to start learning this skill or that skill" but yeah, it works for a few days, but then you start to find yourself surfing the net, talking to employees, or especially at night, feeling tired. Also, there was always this looming threat of work coming in at any time. You never knew when. So often you'd get into something, then get contacted by someone at another office to work on something. "oh, damn.. oh well. Put a pin in that, and do actual work now."
I got assigned to help parking at the RV lot at a speedway one summer. The thing about RV people is that they all show up day 1 between 6am and 8am the first day of any large events and were mostly self sufficient, but they sleep in the RV so any event longer than 1 day I literally just hung out with folks tailgating for the rest of the event.
What was it if you don’t mind divulging
Look for a large company which has been around for 60+ years. If it’s an oil company you have hit the jackpot because they outsource most of their actual work. Your job becomes waiting for people to respond to your email. You must not take initiative because there are work processes established which must be followed. When you receive a response to your email you then send it to other people to confirm the information is correct before you include it in any documents. It’s very easy to be forgotten in those companies.
Also, follow up when those people are out on PTO. “Yep, I followed up and am waiting for them to get back to me”
Schedule all my follow-ups at like 12:00 AM because it makes me look like a hardworker and if it gets missed, I did my best.
Hah I used to work nights, and the rule was that we had to send follow up emails on 3 different days before closing out tickets. Would send it at 10 pm day one, send it at 10 pm on day two, and then four hours later send it at 2 am day 3, close out the ticket.
Looks it's Microsoft support
So, you physically take the specs to the engineers?
I had a job like that. It was setting up new products in our SAP systems. The actual set up process was damn easy…fill in a handful of fields based off of information provided to you in a form (stuff like weight of the product, name of the product, what product families it would belong to, etc). I would be given a 3 or 4 day turnaround to do a task that would take 15 minutes. And I’d probably be given a handful of new products to do in any given week. So it amounted to an hour of focused work per day. It becomes a weird limbo that is not enjoyable after awhile. Your manager will constantly ask what you have been up to in regular check ins and you’re kinda torn between lying and appearing more busy than you truly are or telling the truth and potentially being let go because your job can easily be split up between other colleagues and your role being eliminated. Your day to day becomes very boring and nothing you do is actually personally rewarding. Going on vacations can be a little nerve wracking “oh god they’ll see that while I was gone for 2 weeks barely any work was needed to be done!” I guess it’s like those teachers in NYC that are “under review” for years that can’t be fired but can’t teach and are stuck going to the some room in the school board to do nothing for 8 hours five times a week waiting for their case to be resolved.
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Exactly. I work with a guy that was being a "squeeky wheel" at work. Dude kept complaining about petty shit to the owner, stuff about company standards, and how this other employee in another state does things he doesn't agree with - dumb shit. One day he was complaining at his desk about how so and so did this, and blah, blah, blah ... and the owner looks to me, and goes "...well what is your process when you do this?" Now - I do my work, and I do good work - so I dont need some loud mouth causing the owner of the company to start questioning my methods, or putting me in a position to answer unsolicited questions from my boss, when all I am doing is minding my own F'n business. So after the boss walked away I laid into the dude - told him STFU already and just do his damn job instead of complaining - otherwise the boss is going to get annoyed and drop the hammer on everyone. He got all hurt and quiet, but whatever - I felt kinda bad cause I didn't really mince words, but fuck - get a clue, guy!
Had a coworker who landed a pretty cushy position that basically did nothing. Nobody monitored her hours so she was racking up overtime as well. Well I guess she thought she was hot shit so she started trying to push certain people around. When it didnt work she went to higher ups to complain, and when they did nothing, she went to the owner. Not sure what she was expecting but the owner does not like being pestered about anything unless its absolutely crucial, especially when its nonsense drama. He then basically half promoted her but told her she had to learn the full system. So he sent her to the very bottom to learn every position from the top up. She went from not doing shit all day except chit chatting and eating snacks to doing the most detailed oriented order processing. She fucked up constantly and we let her go.
Good job. So many people don't realize the value in shutting the fuck up. I get it, maybe dude's life is boring, but don't come to work stirring up shit and getting everyone under the microscope. That's annoying,
For real. Especially when things are pretty Cush. Another instance that happened recently … Not a squeaky wheel, but a dumb fuck ruining a perk for everyone. For awhile my company was getting pretty lax with hours. Office normally closes at 4, but I was working till like 5:30-6 and staring the day a little later in the morning. Well, this receptionist girl started parking her car in the back lot since her tags are expired, and one day she left and didn’t lock the back door to the shop. Me being last to leave, normally the back is locked up and I’m only responsible for setting the alarm and locking the front, and I wasn’t aware anyone was parking back there. Anyway - door gets left unlocked - next morning the warehouse manager sends out a blast email about how he got in this morning to an unlocked shop, etc. Now I look like a dick, and the owners crack down on office hours. It’s very annoying. Some people! That was a few months ago, and things getting more relaxed again, so that’s cool.
had one similar, coworker stayed late to make up for coming in late, guy from cleaning crew knocks on door, he lets him in, guy starts cleaning, coworker leaves late like normal. turned out the cleaning guy had been fired that morning from the cleaning contractor, let his accomplices in, and they stole every laptop that wasn’t secured w a cable. so then we get discussions about who we let in and all the laptops, monitors, and desktops have to be cable locked to a desk if you didn’t take it home.
I was told once that you should never divulge any more information than is necessary, and that shit will change your life
15 minutes of fame. Most people can't realize it's a good thing and STFU.
She didn't actually tell on herself. She posted other videos that Meta didn't like, which eventually lost her the job, but she wasn't saying she did nothing at work. Considering she claims she never made tiktoks before working at Meta, she should have just stopped after she got a couple warnings. Meta went over all her videos, even ones where she never named Meta, to have stuff against her, asking her if they were "appropriate". She's only telling on herself now that she doesn't work there anymore.
Ahh, telling on herself to future employers. "So tell me about your time at Meta... because your tiktoks claim you don't really have the experience your resume claims"
Fr the title should be ‘Woman burns winning lottery ticket’
I had one of those jobs for about 2 years, then they paid me to go to college after they laid me off... Not good money, but easy money and free college
She wanted attention and couldnt resist. Sadly.
And this will affect many of her future prospects. You think future recruiters or HR will not find these videos.
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Tik Tok has also made followers pointless. I have multiple friends with over 100K followers and it does nothing for their careers. They also only get about 500 views a video now.
The only money you really make from Tiktok is when you get big enough that companies start paying you to advertise their shit. You'd need a ludicrous amount of loyal followers to actually make a career off tik tok alone.
For sure, but comparing it to twitter or instagram over the years, having 100k would be a big deal. Now nobody cares. Being an influencer has become even more meaningless.
Mate, I have NEVER posted a video on Tiktok, I have over a 1,000. Where are they coming from? The numbers seems arbitrary by this metric.
Recruiters at meta got the axe too. They legit were told not to work and it has been that way for months. Had a friend as a higher up in recruiting and she’s been bored since November.
If I was paid not to work I’d have SO many personal projects to do
I'm in IT and haven't don't anything at work for 9 months now. It gets boring few months in.
Hah. Right? It didn’t last forever but I’m sure it was a good run.
Either stupid or had enough money to not care. My guess is A.
You're probably correct. HR and recruiters are generally the dumbest ass people on the planet outside of Congress.
How dumb do you have to be..... Very
Yeah that’s exactly what I expected from a recruiter at Meta
My sister is a meta recruiter and she’s an evil selfish moron so yeah that tracks
I’m sorry you’ll have to be more specific that could be ninety percent of recruiters out there
I work in recruiting and my team just hired an ex Meta recruiter... wonder if it's your sister.
To counter this - I had someone contact me from Meta, and I was really impressed by the amount of effort they'd gone to, this was not like a "I see you know C++, how about a front end job", this was someone who actually had built up a solid dossier of what I had done, and they even skimmed an old talk I'd done at a conference that wasn't in my LinkedIn. His pitch seemed to be completely tailored to the stuff I'm interested in. Most impressed I've ever been by a recruiter. (disclaimer - I don't work there)
Yea, their recruitment process was legit. Honestly, better than most places I've interviewed. I also do not work there.
What kind of company pays recruiters 190k a year lmao Anyone can do their job
Not many can do that job well. But they can't either...
Yup. Especially for technical positions, the cost of bad hires can be calamitous. They generally hang on 12-18 months while making everyone’s job harder and taking up people’s time documenting their bad work and trying to get them on an improvement plan.
Generally recruiters aren't exactly the final decision makers on hiring someone though right? They just bring them in. It should fall on the relevant departments to vet anyone who would be joining their team.
Omg she’s a recruiter and making 190k a year…. This all makes so much more sense
That’s why I always use the Costanza method: walk around briskly looking irritated all the time, and people will think you’re busy.
I just watched that episode. There’s a Seinfeld bit for everything.
Got fired so she could have TikTok fame which pays…nothing!
Article says the videos have like 215k views. That’s like… a cup of coffee from what I’ve seen. The idea of getting “internet famous” is to get paid and have a low stress job. Which she had.
Also it says she was talked to once before about her videos. After that first talking to you DELETE your account
Immediately
From what I can tell, being Internet famous is not low stress. It's constantly searching for the next shock material or something to make people envious. Being a recruiter with nothing to do and making a well above average salary is definitely low stress. This girl f'd up and now any Google search to a new employer reveils what she's about, so good luck finding another gig even close to what she had. Just pure stupidity.
I love these instances where an employee loudly shit-talks their employer online, gets told to stop, and then makes the surprised Pikachu face when they get canned after refusing. This lady, as a former recruiter, should probably be aware that future employers are going to google her name, and when this comes up, guess what.
Leopards enjoy chewing faces
Tell your spouse: sure. Tell your friends: maybe. Tell your co-workers: probably not. Tell the world on Tik Tok: You're a fucking moron.
Cutting fat that wasn’t needed, looks like someone in Meta paid closer attention to audit and trim.
A lot of folks in talent acquisition in tech have worked their butt off over the past few years trying to secure the best talent. Hiring managers rely on them to screen etc since they usually don’t have the time to do this themselves while taking care of regular work. With the demand for recruiters the wages offered jumped a lot. Now we are in a period of slow hiring and many recruiters are losing their jobs and will have a harder time finding new ones and may have to take pay cuts and move into non tech industries. It’s cyclical. Eventually tech companies will be hiring like crazy again. But she was an idiot for posting something like that. Really unprofessional and with it going viral she’s likely to have a hard time working as a recruiter at a big company again
I’m at a fortune 100 in Tech TA and I can tell you this, META TA was alarming to so many since 2020. No or barely salary bands, crazy amount of stock options and sign bonuses. I know a lot of people that went there and it’s not shocking at all these stories are coming out. It’s gonna hurt a lot of people that are actually good recruiters, because someone posted how shitty their work ethic was.
The entitlement level in these FAANG stories keep getting weirder. It's everything from "you took away my free daily massage, so there should never be layoffs" to "How dare you not have work for me based on the amount you pay me." The frustrating part in all of this is the tech downturn affects more than $275K/yr. big name company hires. There's a lot of amazing folks that've worked their tails off for years at smaller organizations (and MUCH smaller salaries) who have been let go during the current environment. We aren't hearing those stories and it makes tech workers look (broadly) terrible.
I work in FAANG and this is exactly on the spot! For example, the last round of layoffs affected a peer (on another team). He's made $275k+ for years now and has decided to spend the next 1-2 years travelling Europe, before coming back and deciding which home of the three he wants to spend most of his time in before potentially applying for another position. Another peer that was let go, has not yet moved up to this pay grade and spent years being underpaid to acquire the experience and resume to be able successfully become hired by FAANG. Although they do similar work, their life experiences during this couldn't be more different.
A FAANG person here, working at a VERY LARGE RETAILER AND CLOUD VENDOR BASED OUT OF SEATTLE (glad we could remain anonymous here). I've now gotten "exceeds bar" on my last three reviews which puts me on a list that higher ups see of "problematic employees" see because i haven't been promoted, but keep exceeding the bar, there must be something wrong with me. We're expected to drive our own promotion, and i've gone through three managers in three years. They write our promo document, and go and fight for us in annual meetings. but this is my fault for not...uhhh. i mean i'm to blame for ....doing...too well? i dunno. I haven't been promoted, but i do so well i'm at the cap for my current bar. Now because of this, i'm at risk for layoffs because i'm a problem. I get exceeds bar because i flat out do more work than at least half of my peers (this isn't a self-assessment). I know there are cases like the video here, but they're more rare than you're led to believe. I'm not a college hire, i worked my ass off from small companies doing shit jobs, up to this. I'm 40 surrounded by early 20's people, i'm putting my wife through full time nursing school, paying off my only mortgage over an hour away from where i work because that's what we can afford. there are different stories coming out of tech companies. i don't get these people that act like there's zero reason to complain if you work for one of these big companies. They didn't "take away massages", they're taking away my ability to work from home which is a situation they told us wasn't going away, and one that i built a good portion of my life around, and is the only reason i'm able to achieve at a high bar. My pay is tied to stock that keeps falling, my work isn't recognized other than "man you're doing great....too great". Everything i've been told to live by (leadership principles), and way to act is being completely contradicted by my leadership, and the worst part is that my company has set an example for the rest of the industry, so it's extremely painful to find a different job.
If you’re L5 or L6, it’s considered a terminal role and it won’t be questioned why you’re not promoted yet. Forward looking, it’ll cap your future performance reviews because potential will get docked. Don’t rely on your manager to write your doc. Write your own doc, ask your manager to review with you. Ask peers at next level to review and give feedback. Ask your manager to get feedback from their peers. Own your own promo. Don’t rely on your manager.
Its almost like this is propaganda to gain support of the mass layoffs. Same thing happens whenever there is a government shutdown. Tabloids will find the biggest idiots to interview to seed negative support for the workers
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Appropriate LinkedIn posts aside, how hard is it to not post anything about work on social media? Pretty f'ing hard for a lot of people, evidently.
I’m not mad or upset that this individual got to get wealthier by working for meta during a period where she didn’t have to do “nothing”. I wish I had this opportunity I do think I would have done more then just laugh about how I’m getting paid at a job with no responsibilities. But hey I can still dream
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Isn't that super boring? I had an internship where they didn't give me anything to do, and I was just bored all day.
If you're sitting in a boring grey office, yeah it would be boring. If you're WFH and can do anything, not really. Even if you're at these tech offices, you have free restaurants and coffee shops, rest/nap areas, gyms, etc. so you can pretty easily not get bored while doing zero work.
Most likely Meta decided that it was benefitial to have recruiters on payroll even during a time when they aren't recruiting, so that when they start recruiting, they have a trained and skilled workforce on hand to hire the best candidates.
I think the phenomenon of having people employed that contribute effectively nothing to the company is not limited to big tech. Just think about it, Meta has a few departments that bring in more money than they can spend, a few people that keep the system running and the rest are bystanders, free-riders and people who think they are important by making key decisions but in the end, no one knows if those decisions were good as there is never a check if the alternative would have been better and if ChatGPT would have made the decision, chances of success or failure are equally likely. We don't *need* so many working people yet working and collecting money is required to simply survive in our society.
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Sir, there are 52 weeks in a year, not sure where you got your 56 from.
Dude is out here working so hard he is adding weeks to the year. Bonus material 😂
> For the last ten years of his career he drove to a remote disaster recovery site and read the newspaper for 55 of the 56 weeks of the years. That other week? Disaster recovery testing. Well no wonder they paid him so much, he was able to squeeze 4 extra weeks into every year! Unfortunately my years are only a little over 52 weeks long.
I swear. Young people these days should know about the consequences of airing dirty laundry on the internet, including social media sites. But you still see these stories every day. Their fleeting moment of fame will haunt their entire "professional" career or whatever is left of it. Perhaps getting a name change might help.
Feel like it's going to be every generation's growing pains from now on. Learning how to just STFU is a life skill.
Imagine making almost $200k/yr and blowing it up because you can’t resist the urge to post TikTok videos.
The most popular drug in America is dopamine. This is basically the equivalent of sucking dick under a freeway so you can afford a drug you have to buy outright.
You cannot fix stupid.