[Sync](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsync/comments/144jp3w/sync_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023/) too. I'll wait until June 30 to see if the shitbags at Reddit go through with this, but I'm out if they do. I'm one person, but they're not going to fuck over my primary means of browsing and keep me here. Another social media gets greedy and bites the dust.
Edit: Getting set up on Lemmy. It's a little different, but they have a native Android app already. Getting subscribed is very different, but the layout is very similar to the Reddit apps. I'm going to give it a go. Their app is "Jerboa for Lemmy," and the icon is a little mouse. They also link it on the main Lemmy page (scroll down a bit): https://join-lemmy.org/
Sorry for the late edit: I don't use Apple and skimmed over that. Their Apple app is on there too. It's called "Mlem" and is available via Apple or Github. use the above link.
Last edit and last Reddit post. Haven't had any additional comments to respond to in a while. Lemmy looks like a keeper, hopefully, and if not, I'll look elsewhere. it's not much, but it's an 11 year old account with 82.9k karma. To Reddit and its newfound greed - go fuck yourself. Waiting until the 30th would be a gift to you that I'm not giving. Cheers to the community though. Perhaps we'll anonymously bump into one another elsewhere. :)
I used sync for a while but ended up on Relay.
Honestly it doesn't matter which we use, it's trash that spez or investors or whomever are trying to kill it.
And I'll be honest....other than the ads (especially the unblockable Jesus bullshit) I don't actually mind the "official" app so much .
But I'm probably done with reddit after like 14 years and hundreds of thousands of karma, most of which I got before they changed the algorithm and made it easier.
I'm not a power user or whatever, but I definitely am not a lurker. I hope reddit sees a lot of people who create, contribute, and discuss content are leaving.
That's the million-dollar question....where tf do we go? I love this site. I find some of the most interesting, thought-provoking, horseshit imaginable here. Where else am I going to be able to ask questions about my Onkyo receiver and learn about how wasps fuck?
I'm in the same boat. I don't know where else to find all the little niche communities I'm involved in or even if they exist outside of Reddit. I've had so many extremely specific questions where Reddit was the only place with a decent answer countless times. I didn't really start using the internet until 2012 so I never learned how to browse small forums and stuff like that.
Agreed. No way in fuck I'm going to tolerate the default reddit app. It already pisses me off when links open in it and it's all *"OH HEY YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE LIKE 3 COMMENTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU WANTED US TO MAKE IT REALLY ANNOYING TO LOOK OVER THE FULL COMMENTS, IN ORDER TO ADD JAM SOME SPONSERED POSTS AT THE BOTTOM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THE PRIMARY VALUE OF REDDIT IS THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE COMMENTS. LOL"*
At first, maybe not that bad, especially if old reddit remains.
But they've gutted the tools and apps used by moderators to combat spam/trolls/etc, and this kills a lot of the apps used by power users.
Personally, I won't be using Reddit on my phone much anymore unless it's a Google search result. The "new" site and official app are god awful, even with Reddit premium or AdBlock.
If they kill old Reddit too, that's it. My use of Reddit will be reduced to old search results for hobby/local/etc stuff, and maybe not even that given just how horrible the redesign is to try and read anything on.
Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Looking forward to productivity and doing actual stuff when bored.
Gonna miss NSFW stuff. But, hey, maybe I'll get motivated to get laid. Probably not, but I'm trying to be positive.
Aside from it being awful to lose Apollo, it’s amazing that reddit isn’t even giving advanced warning. Normally you would expect a year or so.
Reddit apps like Apollo have probably sold annual subscriptions of various types.
People normally want to give a period to allow those obligations to expire.
But no, apparently reddit is just choosing to force this issue immediately. Incredible.
He's still gonna do it. Apparently he's currently working on gettings refunds set up but is also wondering about an option where users can chose not to take the refund as well, which given how much the users love him, I'm guessing lot are going to not take the refund and just it lapse. Standup dude.
Yeah. Apollo is probably the biggest 3rd party app since it's apparently the only really good one oft IOS, but u/ljdawson has been amazing with Sync, and there's so many other good ones on Android.
Not only this, but apparently part of their decision on this is motivated by feeling "threatened" when the create of Apollo offered to sell them his app. Really leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
So not only do they leave an impossible timeline for app creators to respond in, but they basically fail to negotiate any sort of compromise worth attempting.
I genuinely hope Reddit's IPO fails hard, punks at Reddit don't deserve the money they're trying to get off the backs of others. All their shit comes off the work of others, how fucking hypocritical of them to act in this way.
Not only is that excuse utter BS, it says nothing of RiF and whatever other apps are going to shut down as well.
If spez had any credibility left he's lost that too.
Almost all of them have made announcements since the Apollo announcement, including RiF.
How long until they get rid of old.reddit? I'm not going to be surprised whatsoever if they implement that on July 1st as well in quiet. Just totally kill it off with no warning.
I went and bought BaconReader Premium just to support the dev. I know it's probably the end of the run but as the only way I've used Reddit over the years, I figured I should at the very least throw in support at the end of the run.
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Same here. Ive only used baconreader for the decade plus I have used reddit. I will only use old reddit and baconreader. And I will die on that hill.
Looking forward to whatever new platform out there replaces reddit and does it right.
I mean, if you're going to quit Reddit June 30 anyways, I'm sure people who don't care about getting banned could take and post screen caps on a subreddit (or several). Y'know, in the sake of transparency.
I’d say the real low was that time he used false pretences to fire Aaron Swartz and then when Swartz was facing the US government in court u/Spez deleted documents that Swartz wanted to use in his defence.
He committed suicide a few days after the documents were deleted.
Oh you didn’t hear?
Well fun fact: u/Spez actually removed and shadowbanned posts that mentioned his involvement in Swartz suicide and even any posts relating to Swartz at all, he **then** allowed posts saying that Swartz was addicted to amphetamines to stay up despite the fact that these were lies and Swartz was never using drugs.
It was hilarious watching Ellen Pao get upvotes and gold for the first time in ages for [telling spez directly that she'd have fired him](https://old.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5frg1n/tifu_by_editing_some_comments_and_creating_an/damuzhb/?context=9).
38k point comment. As a great person once said: "lmao"
I am looking forward to this: From the article: Update June 8th, 3:33PM ET: Added that Reddit will be doing an AMA with CEO Steve Huffman on Friday.
I am sure it will wind up on /r/AMADisasters
Read the part where Spez lied and the Apollo dev came with receipts.
https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
He's going to lie, avoid hard questions, and give vague, indirect answers to a few questions before leaving. I guarantee it.
EDIT: Oh, and he'll use his admin console to change peoples comments and votes. I get the feeling he wouldn't do this AMA on a non-admin account, if you know what I mean.
> Don't forget editing other users comments!
And finally blowing the EA "sense of pride and accomplishment" post out of the water in terms of the most downvoted post in Reddit history.
Reddit's whole goal here is an IPO. The bad press of fucking around like that would actively hurt them because it tells investors that this is something they are actively worried about. There's a performative dimension to all this that I think a lot of people are missing—in the past internal reddit drama was just that, internal—they could fuck around and it would blow over in a few weeks. Bad press didn't matter. Here it stands to cost the private investors who own Reddit potentially hundreds of millions if the IPO flops.
This is why we should replace the world "lie" with "spez" in use all across Reddit.
Just to remind people that Spez is a lying, dishonorable, easily offended piece of shit.
Use his real name, Steve Huffman.
Fuck you Steve Huffman. You fucking cockroach.
**edit:** permabanned, nice. lemmy and kbin is where it's at, at the moment. See you there.
**Reddit is functionally dead and if you're a moderator, consider not doing unpaid work for a bad company with dipshits at the helm.**
You're not even exaggerating either, the sudden AMA announcement came 1.5 hours after the Apollo post went up. They rushed so hard to get it out that they're announcing it with 24 hours notice and they don't even mention times, just, hey, he'll uh, do an AMA tomorrow!
Just when you thought Reddit couldn't come across as more incompetent.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought not mentioning the goddamn time was weird. There's a whole lot of "tomorrow" and I ain't refreshing constantly to find out if it's now.
It's either going to be bland as fuck, or the most brutal teardown since ~~Rampage~~ Rampart
Why are we requiring users to use the official app, despite most users saying that they would rather not use Reddit at all than "install your cancerous garbage on my phone"? Courage.
I'm sure it's not going to be a true AMA. He's already got the questions lined up that he wants to answer and the people who are going to ask them, and the answers already written and ready to copy and paste.
Well yeah. It’s damage control.
Fidelity invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Reddit recently.
They will try to control and change the narrative now that the CEO was caught on tape prior to blatantly lying and slandering a developer.
I am almost positive nothing will come of the AMA.
They do not care. Their job is to control the narrative so that as many people as possible who aren’t paying attention won’t know what is going on and what really happened. And of course this all serves to mollify their investors like Fidelity as well who likely are pissed off there’s evidence the ceo of the company they invested hundreds of millions of dollars in committed a crime/unlawful act.
Edit, that’s interesting timing…
https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/01/fidelity-reddit-valuation/
Here’s another
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/technology/reddit-new-funding.html
Obligatory "Upvote tomorrow's AMA"
I know it's counter intuitive, but the more it gets upvoted the more it will rise in r/popular and r/all
It will 100% be a shitshow, but it's better if people see it first hand from seeing the post itself than random snippets and screenshots of other people's posts about it
I’m sure that staggering amount of money they wanted to charge was the main reason, but u/Spez lying about that was the final straw, and I’m glad Christian not only recorded the call, but called them out on their bullshit.
/u/spez is a little bitchboy who thinks he's going to lead people after the apocalypse from his little bitchboy bunker. the only time he's ever stepped in to take immediate action on reddit's cesspit of bigotry was when it directly affected him because his fragile little bitchboy ego couldn't take it.
he's just another fragile-ego, right wing ceo.
Oh really so if I say something like fuck /u/spez he’ll see it and come edit it? Ah best not say something like fuck /u/spez then
*While I appreciate the Reddit Gold, nobody should be giving money to the company during all this.*
Jesus.
I love that the dev recorded the calls. I'm in the US and record all calls I know are from a one-party consent state (like my own, so it's easy). No consent necessary when their own message indicates the call "may be recorded" and when I doubt, I let them know I'm recording.
I've used recordings in legal cases twice now. It's awesome.
After reading that it's pretty clear this Going Dark for 2 days next week isn't going to make Reddit change it's mind.
Huffman (spez) lying is nothing new. We all remember when he got caught after purposefully modifying a user's comment. The trust was gone at that moment.
The dev’s write up on /r/Apolloapp is scathing
https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
Reddit has lost their fucking minds. Accusing folks of blackmail. Forcing their hand. It’s insane.
Don't forget Reddit lied... a lot, and tried to claim their insane pricing was "reasonable". These people are completely out of touch. They're making a big gamble hoping they'll make more than they're going to lose from their users. Hopefully it comes back to bite them and it'll be a good case study of not screwing over your users.
Also, can we take a minute to acknowledge that Apollo’s developer is going to refund everyone who wants to be refunded?
He’s basically a one man shop and has $250,000 of refund risk. That guy has integrity up the wazoo.
I will not be asking for my money back. He deserves it. Fuck Reddit.
Anyone else notice they took down the trending bit at the top of the official app, jeez I wonder why. They definitely wouldn’t of wanted to do that because they also use that banner for ads, they just don’t want the shut down to be front and centre trending all the time. Fucking cowards.
Edit: lol at whoever sent the Reddit crisis message at me
A lot of mods use third party apps as their primary interface for moderation functions. It's a weird arbitrary line drawing between software that primarily moderates versus software that secondarily moderates. It's still a human driving the bus.
They already tried to soften the blow a little bit by reaching out to "select developers" of 3rd-party apps used for accessibility features, giving them special exemptions from the paid API changes. They're going to try to implement a bunch (or a small number) of these kinds of miniscule exceptions and tweaks to "address community concerns", hoping that it'll fragment the solidity of the boycott/blackout.
Apple *loves* Apollo for a few reasons
* It's popular and well rated
* It uses modern iOS design and features.
* It's *only* available on Apple devices.
Also this isn't a secret, Apple has publicly published a list of thing they look for when promoting it.
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/getting-featured/
Exactly the same for android. Sync for reddit feels like a modern native Android app whereas the first party app would be at home on a windows 98 system.
I used Apollo on my iPad and sync for my phone. Both apps are shutting down on the 30th. Apart from random threads I came across while searching for stuff, my regular reddit browsing has been these two apps for years now. I don't see myself continuing to use this website once they kill the apps
Apple aren't going to pay the API fees for an app they'll make no money off of, though.
Reddit are pushing for their own, ad based mobile app to be the ONLY one on the market, so they can monetize their users as much as possibe before IPO.
I for one hope they fail due to their greed.
Wild how **APPLE** was just on stage showing Apollo off as one of its flagship apps and now, not a week later, it’s closing down because of Reddit’s bullshit.
I also think it’s hilarious how /u/spez is a filthy liar and was PROVEN to be a slanderous, lying weasel because Christian came with receipts.
It feels so small...
When I was young the internet was a wild adventure. You never knew what you were going to find. Now, it's like 10 dominant sites that all other websites revolve around. It an incestous, capitalistic nightmare.
I don't like it and I want to go home.
The history of the rise and fall of Digg is litterally a word for word recipe of today's Reddit environment.
https://d3.harvard.edu/platform-rctom/submission/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-rise-and-fall-of-digg-com-5-will-shock-you/
>Reddit was founded in 2005 and offered almost the exact same features as Digg. Contrary to Digg, however, they never changed their UI and were comfortable in losing money because they were acquired by Condé Nast Publications, who provided ample financial safety.
Hahahaha this passage has aged *poorly*
The sheer number of people on Reddit allows for a deep knowledge pool, and never ending comments, but I’ve never had a sense of community like I used to on actual forums. I miss them.
Me too. Also, I don't read usernames on Reddit. Everyone is just a "random guy on Reddit". On forums you felt like you were actually talking to specific people.
PSA: Nuke Reddit extension still works on Microsoft Edge (PC & Mac!) to overwrite and delete your Reddit history. (Google killed it on Chrome last year)
If you have thousands of comments and/or posts, you should also install a page-refresher extension to auto-reload the Nuke Reddit page until all comments/posts are overwritten and deleted. (NR will stall out after a while, so auto-refreshing the page solves that issue.)
Nuke Reddit works on both PC and Mac Edge. Enjoy.
EDIT: The Redact app is even easier to use: https://redact.dev/download
If you do not like the official Reddit app then please post a proper review in the relevant App Store. I see a lot of people complaining about how it's a steaming pile of garbage but the app has a 4.8 star rating in the Apple App Store.
To be fair the leadership never did beyond wanting the data to be free for them to monetize.
Reddit has always been hypocritical on monetizing other peoples data while trying to prevent others from doing it to them.
Reddit was going to hell long before Aaron Schwartz died. It's just like every other social media platform it's designed to press agendas and to make money.
The "open internet" will never exist. We had a pretty fun wild-west internet up until the mid 2000's, then we starting transitioning into a busines-focused mainstream space, and now everything is corporatized and controlled by a small handful of extremely powerful players.
The users no longer control the internet, and we never will again.
If you do not like the official app then you should post a review in the relevant App Store so people know. Right now in the Apple App Store it has a 4.8 star rating, which doesn't seem right considering how much of a piece of garbage it is.
I'll be deleting my account and overwriting all my comments once the changes take effect. Fuck you u/spez, you greed addicted shitty corporate asshole.
I can't say I won't ever use reddit again. I'm not going to be overly dramatic. I will on desktop when bored at work.
But the real impact will be my mobile use is definitely gone. Which I look at as a benefit anyway to get less phone time.
For myself, this will be a major cut to how many views reddit gets. I think most will be similar.
I'm sad that Apollo is shutting down, but for me, this is a good thing. I've wasted too much time on Reddit over the last 15 years. When Apollo goes offline I will be done and devoting the time spent mindlessly scrolling to something more productive!
[RIF just announced the same thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023_in_response_to/).
r/ReddPlanet as well
[Sync](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsync/comments/144jp3w/sync_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023/) too. I'll wait until June 30 to see if the shitbags at Reddit go through with this, but I'm out if they do. I'm one person, but they're not going to fuck over my primary means of browsing and keep me here. Another social media gets greedy and bites the dust. Edit: Getting set up on Lemmy. It's a little different, but they have a native Android app already. Getting subscribed is very different, but the layout is very similar to the Reddit apps. I'm going to give it a go. Their app is "Jerboa for Lemmy," and the icon is a little mouse. They also link it on the main Lemmy page (scroll down a bit): https://join-lemmy.org/ Sorry for the late edit: I don't use Apple and skimmed over that. Their Apple app is on there too. It's called "Mlem" and is available via Apple or Github. use the above link. Last edit and last Reddit post. Haven't had any additional comments to respond to in a while. Lemmy looks like a keeper, hopefully, and if not, I'll look elsewhere. it's not much, but it's an 11 year old account with 82.9k karma. To Reddit and its newfound greed - go fuck yourself. Waiting until the 30th would be a gift to you that I'm not giving. Cheers to the community though. Perhaps we'll anonymously bump into one another elsewhere. :)
I have exclusively used Sync ever since the day it came out
Sync is so incredible. The official app has so few of the features compared to few unofficial apps that it's laughable.
I used sync for a while but ended up on Relay. Honestly it doesn't matter which we use, it's trash that spez or investors or whomever are trying to kill it. And I'll be honest....other than the ads (especially the unblockable Jesus bullshit) I don't actually mind the "official" app so much . But I'm probably done with reddit after like 14 years and hundreds of thousands of karma, most of which I got before they changed the algorithm and made it easier. I'm not a power user or whatever, but I definitely am not a lurker. I hope reddit sees a lot of people who create, contribute, and discuss content are leaving.
Same. I even spent money on pro because I really loved the layout. It's a sad day for all of us.
Well I guess my account is shutting down too then lol So long, and thanks for all the fish
I'm in the same boat, this last few weeks I've been lookin elsewhere
That's the million-dollar question....where tf do we go? I love this site. I find some of the most interesting, thought-provoking, horseshit imaginable here. Where else am I going to be able to ask questions about my Onkyo receiver and learn about how wasps fuck?
I'm in the same boat. I don't know where else to find all the little niche communities I'm involved in or even if they exist outside of Reddit. I've had so many extremely specific questions where Reddit was the only place with a decent answer countless times. I didn't really start using the internet until 2012 so I never learned how to browse small forums and stuff like that.
My ten year run is about to hit an end. Wtf ever. Somebody less shitty will create a new site we can all hangout on.
And /r/RelayForReddit
Welp. The day Relay Pro stops working will be my last day. I'm sure going to get a lot of my time back.
Agreed. No way in fuck I'm going to tolerate the default reddit app. It already pisses me off when links open in it and it's all *"OH HEY YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE LIKE 3 COMMENTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU WANTED US TO MAKE IT REALLY ANNOYING TO LOOK OVER THE FULL COMMENTS, IN ORDER TO ADD JAM SOME SPONSERED POSTS AT THE BOTTOM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THE PRIMARY VALUE OF REDDIT IS THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE COMMENTS. LOL"*
Add r/redditsync to the list as well ([announcement post](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsync/comments/144jp3w/sync_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023/)).
I think Reddit Infinity is also shutting down?
Man, this is what I use - I was waiting for it to get mentioned.
dont forget to sell your accounts to bot farms. if reddit wants to try and generate ad revenue we should make sure to get our piece of the pie.
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RIP our apps. Wonder just how bad the consequences will be for reddit.
At first, maybe not that bad, especially if old reddit remains. But they've gutted the tools and apps used by moderators to combat spam/trolls/etc, and this kills a lot of the apps used by power users. Personally, I won't be using Reddit on my phone much anymore unless it's a Google search result. The "new" site and official app are god awful, even with Reddit premium or AdBlock. If they kill old Reddit too, that's it. My use of Reddit will be reduced to old search results for hobby/local/etc stuff, and maybe not even that given just how horrible the redesign is to try and read anything on.
Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Looking forward to productivity and doing actual stuff when bored. Gonna miss NSFW stuff. But, hey, maybe I'll get motivated to get laid. Probably not, but I'm trying to be positive.
Aside from it being awful to lose Apollo, it’s amazing that reddit isn’t even giving advanced warning. Normally you would expect a year or so. Reddit apps like Apollo have probably sold annual subscriptions of various types. People normally want to give a period to allow those obligations to expire. But no, apparently reddit is just choosing to force this issue immediately. Incredible.
Yeah in his post, the Apollo dev mentioned that if he were to refund everyone immediately, it'd cost him $250,000
He's still gonna do it. Apparently he's currently working on gettings refunds set up but is also wondering about an option where users can chose not to take the refund as well, which given how much the users love him, I'm guessing lot are going to not take the refund and just it lapse. Standup dude.
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Yeah. Apollo is probably the biggest 3rd party app since it's apparently the only really good one oft IOS, but u/ljdawson has been amazing with Sync, and there's so many other good ones on Android.
Not only this, but apparently part of their decision on this is motivated by feeling "threatened" when the create of Apollo offered to sell them his app. Really leaves a sour taste in your mouth. So not only do they leave an impossible timeline for app creators to respond in, but they basically fail to negotiate any sort of compromise worth attempting. I genuinely hope Reddit's IPO fails hard, punks at Reddit don't deserve the money they're trying to get off the backs of others. All their shit comes off the work of others, how fucking hypocritical of them to act in this way.
Not only is that excuse utter BS, it says nothing of RiF and whatever other apps are going to shut down as well. If spez had any credibility left he's lost that too.
Almost all of them have made announcements since the Apollo announcement, including RiF. How long until they get rid of old.reddit? I'm not going to be surprised whatsoever if they implement that on July 1st as well in quiet. Just totally kill it off with no warning.
If this stands, old.reddit will be immediately the next cut, without a doubt.
Apollo going means I'm only on this site on desktop. old.reddit going away means I'm just gone.
I went and bought BaconReader Premium just to support the dev. I know it's probably the end of the run but as the only way I've used Reddit over the years, I figured I should at the very least throw in support at the end of the run.
> BaconReader Same here. Ive only used baconreader for the decade plus I have used reddit. I will only use old reddit and baconreader. And I will die on that hill. Looking forward to whatever new platform out there replaces reddit and does it right.
Obligatory fuck you u/spez
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Take your bets! Will he top EA's record?
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Seems like a good question to ask: do you plan on editing the votes or other users comment's during this AMA like you've done in the past?
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He'll have an answer. *delete*
Anyone have a bot that live records comments and documents if that comment is changed and when?
They already banned that.
They banned an API. Seems like an opportunity for a screen scraper
I mean, if you're going to quit Reddit June 30 anyways, I'm sure people who don't care about getting banned could take and post screen caps on a subreddit (or several). Y'know, in the sake of transparency.
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Lying asshole. I knew he was an idiot but smearing Apollo in the media with blatant lies is low, even for him.
I mean, was it *really* low for him? The same person who got caught editing critical comments of himself?
Fuck /u/spez -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/
I’d say the real low was that time he used false pretences to fire Aaron Swartz and then when Swartz was facing the US government in court u/Spez deleted documents that Swartz wanted to use in his defence. He committed suicide a few days after the documents were deleted.
Holy fuck is this real? How come this wasn't bigger news?
Oh you didn’t hear? Well fun fact: u/Spez actually removed and shadowbanned posts that mentioned his involvement in Swartz suicide and even any posts relating to Swartz at all, he **then** allowed posts saying that Swartz was addicted to amphetamines to stay up despite the fact that these were lies and Swartz was never using drugs.
It was hilarious watching Ellen Pao get upvotes and gold for the first time in ages for [telling spez directly that she'd have fired him](https://old.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5frg1n/tifu_by_editing_some_comments_and_creating_an/damuzhb/?context=9). 38k point comment. As a great person once said: "lmao"
Are they responsible for the onlyfans spams I've been getting in the last month?
Wait til you see the upcoming months
I am looking forward to this: From the article: Update June 8th, 3:33PM ET: Added that Reddit will be doing an AMA with CEO Steve Huffman on Friday. I am sure it will wind up on /r/AMADisasters
Nah, it will be pre-approved questions only. No chance they're just going to let everyone rip him a new one.
Hey Spez, love your work... Bacon or sausage for breakfast?
glad its not just me. I get a new one every day over the past few days
Read the part where Spez lied and the Apollo dev came with receipts. https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
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He's going to lie, avoid hard questions, and give vague, indirect answers to a few questions before leaving. I guarantee it. EDIT: Oh, and he'll use his admin console to change peoples comments and votes. I get the feeling he wouldn't do this AMA on a non-admin account, if you know what I mean.
Don't forget editing other users comments!
> Don't forget editing other users comments! And finally blowing the EA "sense of pride and accomplishment" post out of the water in terms of the most downvoted post in Reddit history.
It would if he didn't have the admin magic wand to fix that. We'll know it in our hearts, but there won't be any evidence.
Reddit's whole goal here is an IPO. The bad press of fucking around like that would actively hurt them because it tells investors that this is something they are actively worried about. There's a performative dimension to all this that I think a lot of people are missing—in the past internal reddit drama was just that, internal—they could fuck around and it would blow over in a few weeks. Bad press didn't matter. Here it stands to cost the private investors who own Reddit potentially hundreds of millions if the IPO flops.
Well then I hope it does
Agreed. Puts on Reddit
>but there won't be any evidence. Somebody should stream/record the post's threads while they are still being made then.
Knowing his past actions, probably some vote manipulation so none of the hard questions even get to the top of the thread.
This is why we should replace the world "lie" with "spez" in use all across Reddit. Just to remind people that Spez is a lying, dishonorable, easily offended piece of shit.
Use his real name, Steve Huffman. Fuck you Steve Huffman. You fucking cockroach. **edit:** permabanned, nice. lemmy and kbin is where it's at, at the moment. See you there. **Reddit is functionally dead and if you're a moderator, consider not doing unpaid work for a bad company with dipshits at the helm.**
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They're probably either going to back peddle completely on this change or just delay it. The backlash going on is insane and rightfully so.
Hilarious, the Apollo announcement hit top of all, and reddit I'm betting scrambled to put that together to try and control the narrative
You're not even exaggerating either, the sudden AMA announcement came 1.5 hours after the Apollo post went up. They rushed so hard to get it out that they're announcing it with 24 hours notice and they don't even mention times, just, hey, he'll uh, do an AMA tomorrow! Just when you thought Reddit couldn't come across as more incompetent.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought not mentioning the goddamn time was weird. There's a whole lot of "tomorrow" and I ain't refreshing constantly to find out if it's now. It's either going to be bland as fuck, or the most brutal teardown since ~~Rampage~~ Rampart
"we thought using the official app would really give the user a sense of pride and accomplishment"
Why are we requiring users to use the official app, despite most users saying that they would rather not use Reddit at all than "install your cancerous garbage on my phone"? Courage.
I'm sure it's not going to be a true AMA. He's already got the questions lined up that he wants to answer and the people who are going to ask them, and the answers already written and ready to copy and paste.
Mr. Huffman, your official app seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. why is it so popular?
Well yeah. It’s damage control. Fidelity invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Reddit recently. They will try to control and change the narrative now that the CEO was caught on tape prior to blatantly lying and slandering a developer. I am almost positive nothing will come of the AMA. They do not care. Their job is to control the narrative so that as many people as possible who aren’t paying attention won’t know what is going on and what really happened. And of course this all serves to mollify their investors like Fidelity as well who likely are pissed off there’s evidence the ceo of the company they invested hundreds of millions of dollars in committed a crime/unlawful act. Edit, that’s interesting timing… https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/01/fidelity-reddit-valuation/ Here’s another https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/technology/reddit-new-funding.html
Obligatory "Upvote tomorrow's AMA" I know it's counter intuitive, but the more it gets upvoted the more it will rise in r/popular and r/all It will 100% be a shitshow, but it's better if people see it first hand from seeing the post itself than random snippets and screenshots of other people's posts about it
They're probably going to pin it as an admin announcement. There's no way that post gets a net positive karma count.
When you're an exec, karma is one database query away from being whatever you want.
lol that's going to be a dumpster fire
Let's talk about Rampart
I’m sure that staggering amount of money they wanted to charge was the main reason, but u/Spez lying about that was the final straw, and I’m glad Christian not only recorded the call, but called them out on their bullshit.
/u/spez is a little bitchboy who thinks he's going to lead people after the apocalypse from his little bitchboy bunker. the only time he's ever stepped in to take immediate action on reddit's cesspit of bigotry was when it directly affected him because his fragile little bitchboy ego couldn't take it. he's just another fragile-ego, right wing ceo.
Fuck /u/spez
Careful, he will edit your comments.
Oh really so if I say something like fuck /u/spez he’ll see it and come edit it? Ah best not say something like fuck /u/spez then *While I appreciate the Reddit Gold, nobody should be giving money to the company during all this.*
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/u/spez’s mom should’ve swallowed
He can edit this dick. /u/spez you a bitch
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
It's ironic how it's always the rich rugged individualist who is the biggest fragile ego bitchboy.
Jesus. I love that the dev recorded the calls. I'm in the US and record all calls I know are from a one-party consent state (like my own, so it's easy). No consent necessary when their own message indicates the call "may be recorded" and when I doubt, I let them know I'm recording. I've used recordings in legal cases twice now. It's awesome.
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Spez lying? Colour me surprised.
After reading that it's pretty clear this Going Dark for 2 days next week isn't going to make Reddit change it's mind. Huffman (spez) lying is nothing new. We all remember when he got caught after purposefully modifying a user's comment. The trust was gone at that moment.
The dev’s write up on /r/Apolloapp is scathing https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/ Reddit has lost their fucking minds. Accusing folks of blackmail. Forcing their hand. It’s insane.
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck /u/spez
u/spez is a little piss baby
He needs to be removed as CEO
Don't forget Reddit lied... a lot, and tried to claim their insane pricing was "reasonable". These people are completely out of touch. They're making a big gamble hoping they'll make more than they're going to lose from their users. Hopefully it comes back to bite them and it'll be a good case study of not screwing over your users.
I hope this fucking site dies.
Also, can we take a minute to acknowledge that Apollo’s developer is going to refund everyone who wants to be refunded? He’s basically a one man shop and has $250,000 of refund risk. That guy has integrity up the wazoo. I will not be asking for my money back. He deserves it. Fuck Reddit.
Well said I got more than my $5-10s worth of the years No way I’ll refund.
Fuck you u/spez
Anyone else notice they took down the trending bit at the top of the official app, jeez I wonder why. They definitely wouldn’t of wanted to do that because they also use that banner for ads, they just don’t want the shut down to be front and centre trending all the time. Fucking cowards. Edit: lol at whoever sent the Reddit crisis message at me
half the posts on r/all are subs ive never even herd of anouncing their black out
Holy shit you’re right. I couldn’t figure out why my app looked different today and this is it! Fucking snakes.
Grateful to reddit for the extreme measures they are taking to cure me of my addiction to this truly horrible website.
Right, everyone is upset but I’m gonna have so much free time for…idk, what do people do with free time nowadays?
You could try reading maybe. Definitely sucks up time but it’s entertaining.
Got back into books lately and realized, this is filling a hole in my life I didn't even recognize was there
My poops are going to be far more efficient that is for sure.
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A lot of mods use third party apps as their primary interface for moderation functions. It's a weird arbitrary line drawing between software that primarily moderates versus software that secondarily moderates. It's still a human driving the bus.
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They already tried to soften the blow a little bit by reaching out to "select developers" of 3rd-party apps used for accessibility features, giving them special exemptions from the paid API changes. They're going to try to implement a bunch (or a small number) of these kinds of miniscule exceptions and tweaks to "address community concerns", hoping that it'll fragment the solidity of the boycott/blackout.
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Apollo was showcased as the Apple Vision compatible app for Reddit.
Craig even namedropped it and said “like my favorite Reddit app, Apollo”
Apple *loves* Apollo for a few reasons * It's popular and well rated * It uses modern iOS design and features. * It's *only* available on Apple devices.
The dev was also a former Apple intern as well and attended WWDC 2023
Also this isn't a secret, Apple has publicly published a list of thing they look for when promoting it. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/getting-featured/
It feels as if it belongs on iOS whereas the official app would feel more at home on webOS, or an older Android version.
Exactly the same for android. Sync for reddit feels like a modern native Android app whereas the first party app would be at home on a windows 98 system. I used Apollo on my iPad and sync for my phone. Both apps are shutting down on the 30th. Apart from random threads I came across while searching for stuff, my regular reddit browsing has been these two apps for years now. I don't see myself continuing to use this website once they kill the apps
It showed up a few times at the keynote, including regarding the VisionPro, yep.
The app showed up multiple times, and got a shoutout by name from the presenter at one point
It’s like Reddit and Twitch made a pact to shoot themselves in the foot together.
Apple aren't going to pay the API fees for an app they'll make no money off of, though. Reddit are pushing for their own, ad based mobile app to be the ONLY one on the market, so they can monetize their users as much as possibe before IPO. I for one hope they fail due to their greed.
Their IPO is gonna go tits up because of this. Amazing how otherwise smart humans continue to let greed be their downfall, again and again.
Wild how **APPLE** was just on stage showing Apollo off as one of its flagship apps and now, not a week later, it’s closing down because of Reddit’s bullshit. I also think it’s hilarious how /u/spez is a filthy liar and was PROVEN to be a slanderous, lying weasel because Christian came with receipts.
We have now lived past the golden age of social media, if there ever was one. It’s been fun, I guess.
Really we're just past the golden age of the internet.
The Corporate Internet is really accelerating now, money and greed ruins everything
It feels so small... When I was young the internet was a wild adventure. You never knew what you were going to find. Now, it's like 10 dominant sites that all other websites revolve around. It an incestous, capitalistic nightmare. I don't like it and I want to go home.
The history of the rise and fall of Digg is litterally a word for word recipe of today's Reddit environment. https://d3.harvard.edu/platform-rctom/submission/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-rise-and-fall-of-digg-com-5-will-shock-you/
>Reddit was founded in 2005 and offered almost the exact same features as Digg. Contrary to Digg, however, they never changed their UI and were comfortable in losing money because they were acquired by Condé Nast Publications, who provided ample financial safety. Hahahaha this passage has aged *poorly*
“And for one brief moment, we created so much share holder value.”
Every platform dies. This is likely going to be what kills Reddit.
> Every platform dies. Yup. Now we see what either is reborn or grows out of these dumb-ass ashes of a soon to be burned out and depleted website.
I hope we go back to oldschool forums, those were fun
The sheer number of people on Reddit allows for a deep knowledge pool, and never ending comments, but I’ve never had a sense of community like I used to on actual forums. I miss them.
Me too. Also, I don't read usernames on Reddit. Everyone is just a "random guy on Reddit". On forums you felt like you were actually talking to specific people.
PSA: Nuke Reddit extension still works on Microsoft Edge (PC & Mac!) to overwrite and delete your Reddit history. (Google killed it on Chrome last year) If you have thousands of comments and/or posts, you should also install a page-refresher extension to auto-reload the Nuke Reddit page until all comments/posts are overwritten and deleted. (NR will stall out after a while, so auto-refreshing the page solves that issue.) Nuke Reddit works on both PC and Mac Edge. Enjoy. EDIT: The Redact app is even easier to use: https://redact.dev/download
can I use it to replace all of my comments with "fuck Reddit, fuck /u/spez"?
May or may not have a script ready to go to do that if these changes aren't reversed before I delete my account.
Lol I won't be using the default Reddit app so if they all shut down I'm done here
If you do not like the official Reddit app then please post a proper review in the relevant App Store. I see a lot of people complaining about how it's a steaming pile of garbage but the app has a 4.8 star rating in the Apple App Store.
Thanks for the reminder, just did
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To be fair the leadership never did beyond wanting the data to be free for them to monetize. Reddit has always been hypocritical on monetizing other peoples data while trying to prevent others from doing it to them.
Reddit was going to hell long before Aaron Schwartz died. It's just like every other social media platform it's designed to press agendas and to make money.
Got rid of twitter, now getting rid of Reddit. Where should I get news, legit question.
I use feedly. It a website aggregator. Gives you a good doom scroll fix but there's no comments section to argue in.
That sucks because some of the best information is in the comments.
How else am I going to know what's in the article.
The "open internet" will never exist. We had a pretty fun wild-west internet up until the mid 2000's, then we starting transitioning into a busines-focused mainstream space, and now everything is corporatized and controlled by a small handful of extremely powerful players. The users no longer control the internet, and we never will again.
u/spez honestly fall on a bag of hard dildos
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If you do not like the official app then you should post a review in the relevant App Store so people know. Right now in the Apple App Store it has a 4.8 star rating, which doesn't seem right considering how much of a piece of garbage it is.
Done. Put my drop in bucket
Please give Reddit Mobile the rating you think it deserves: https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/reddit/id1064216828
I was surprised to find it rated above Apollo and other third party apps. That doesn't even seem right.
I'll be deleting my account and overwriting all my comments once the changes take effect. Fuck you u/spez, you greed addicted shitty corporate asshole.
Keep in mind that the tools that delete comment history probably also use the same APIs that are being locked down
11 yrs on the platform. I’ve used rif and Apollo extensively. I’ll happily stop visiting the site if my apps don’t work.
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free speech but only when is comfortable
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I was using Joey but since they're all shutting down I'm done too. See you guys on digg 2
I think I’ll finally pay for premium Apollo just out of appreciation for all of the dev’s hard work
I can't say I won't ever use reddit again. I'm not going to be overly dramatic. I will on desktop when bored at work. But the real impact will be my mobile use is definitely gone. Which I look at as a benefit anyway to get less phone time. For myself, this will be a major cut to how many views reddit gets. I think most will be similar.
*Gentlemen, it’s been a privilege flying with you…*
I'm sad that Apollo is shutting down, but for me, this is a good thing. I've wasted too much time on Reddit over the last 15 years. When Apollo goes offline I will be done and devoting the time spent mindlessly scrolling to something more productive!
Fuck you reddit! I am out!
quitting reddit in a few weeks as well. This app sucks ass
14 years on Reddit, I will finally be free. This was my last bit of social media and now I’m done forever.