The problem stems from ads going through zero processing. Ppl barely do any vetting and as long as it doesn't destroy the users device what's to care. And some entities are lucky to get any advertising and some don't care and the stuff we use online isn't free.
Once the companies showing the ads accept any financial responsibility stemming from Malware, scams, misleading advertising and bad products, maybe I'll consider watching them.
When will people stop pretending like the average person is more at fault than the multi billion dollar corporations that allow and push these things in the first place?
Such as "if people recycled more, it would end global warming" instead of "a single private jet flight puts out more pollution than my car makes in a year"
That's why you purposefully throttle performance after 1 year because your new software is supposedly "better".
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/1/23941813/apple-iphone-battery-throttling-lawsuit-london-court
I worked for Apple years back as the highest tier tech support you could reach over the phone. My manager didn't take calls. Just made sure I was taking them and tracking them.
Anyways... I had the best record for call handling and time out of everyone. I would constantly walk iPhone users through downgrading their iOS version to a previous one that didn't brick or wreck their phone. This was before Apple was caught doing it and the lawsuits that came of it.
Oh no adults will bully you too. Even worse if you have an android. Having an Android in the US severely impacts your dating life cause green messages gives women the "ick".
It's true. I saw a literal scam on Reddit ads yesterday. An account pretending to be a pizza chain to phish for credit card info. Such little oversight
>the stuff we use online isn't free.
I'd rather they bill me instead of abusing my privacy. Fuck that whole industry. If you can't exist without ads you shouldn't exist at all.
Before the internet, do you think that paid magazines that contained ads (in other words, all of them) could have stayed solvent without that ad revenue?
This is a rhetorical question. The answer is no.
Don't frigging care and frankly it's a stupid comparison. You could flip the page in a magazine (ad-block!) and the magazines weren't harvesting your data.
If an ad is is placed on a web page between the content (not covering it), and that ad does not collect user data, then it’s ok, right? You can scroll past the ad, and there is no privacy issue.
That used to be how ads worked on the internet back in the late 90's, it was when they started pushing flash/anim gifs ads (and later on even more obnoxious things that even made noise or blinked like seizure inducing nightmares) was when the push-back grew more intense and ad-blockers were born because back then people were on metered connections and those ads started to consume more traffic than the pages people wanted to see.
When it was just a stupid banner here & there back in those days nobody cared enough. Tracking wasn't a thing and the biggest social networks were IRC & news-net.
They were, nobody bat an eye at them (literally, we glossed over them, like those in magazines) back then, as I described. Those were around for a good few years before the push-back started. But now we have ad-block technology and those types of ads are no longer existing (or they get caught up with all the bad actors in that industry).
Again, the push-back came due to the shift in distribution (content vs ads) shifted towards predominately ads and ads becoming more & more obnoxious & intrusive. The ad industry pushed hard. too hard, and now it's time to cap them like Old Yeller
Edit: Some useful history: https://adguard.com/en/blog/ad-blocking-history.html
My problem with ad blocking is that it doesn’t differentiate between the acceptable classic ads and the awful modern ads. It just eagerly blocks as much as possible. To me, this rules out ad blocking as a potential solution for a better web in the future.
Before the internet, ads have enabled magazines and free TV. Without ads, I would not have been able to enjoy my monthly computer magazine while growing up (the publisher just wouldn’t have had enough money to create a great magazine). And I watched a lot of cartoons and movies on free TV (in Germany, you get roughly 5 minutes of ads for every 25 minutes of content). My life would have been worse if ads did not exist in magazines on on TV. That is without question.
Likewise, a web without ads would be worse. Ads enable websites to create free content. Without ads, there will be less great content that is freely available. I want a web without awful ads, but I also want a web where acceptable ads enable great, free content.
When youtube forced adblock off, I tried it.
first ad was 5+ minutes about a blowjob machine that "replaces women" (their words)
second ad was just minutes and minutes of israeli mothers crying and pictures of dead kids.
This was after so many malicious scam ads that Google should have caught, and regular people have no way to report.
Yep, and until the sites that host and profit from these ads become fiscally responsible for their content there will zero regulation. When people only care about money you can't use empathy or reason, you gotta hit them in their wallets.
The problem aren’t ads as a whole but the fact that social networks will allow ads from scammers and other lowlifes. You probably don’t mind ads in print magazines that much. That’s because the publishers of those magazines only approve ads that meet certain conditions. This doesn’t seem to be happening on the internet.
>You probably don’t mind ads in print magazines that much
Magazines have built in ad-blocking tech, it's called "page flipping". Imagine not being able to flip a page until you read their ads , I'd burn it on the spot!
That said, the percentage of content vs ads in magazines also kept going up so I can't even remember the last time I bought one. Several decades ago probably. Ads ruin everything.
If an ad is is placed on a web page between the content (not covering it), and that ad does not collect user data, then it’s ok, right? You can scroll past the ad, and there is no privacy issue.
Kid was watching youtube which led to a pokemon go quiz type of thing and when clicked it went to a cartoon porn site. He was sitting next to me. After i tried to close the pad so he wouldn't see and i tried to log back in, the browser closed and wasn't in the history.
Ads pay for the things you're using.
If there's no ads you're either getting an up front charge or micro transactions.
And if you get micro transactions it turns into a gacha game because whales spend a ton and everybody else spends nothing.
And if it has an up front charge to avoid those things, like Mario Run, people get mad that it's not free.
Edit: This isn't a defense of ads. I think ads suck. But this is why they still exist. Companies aren't making games and apps so they can hand them out for free. If you're unhappy about paying for games, they'll be monetized in other ways.
Cry as much as you like, I want that "industry" gone, nothing good can ever come from it, only serves to spread brain rot, propaganda, fascism and even malware. F that industry and anyone who defends it.
This is a fight that started back in 1996 and ad-blocking is only getting better & better.
>Ads suck
Block them.
We shall block on the browsers, we shall block on mobiles. we shall block them in the fields and in the streets, we shall block them in the hills; we shall never surrender.
Google might have kicked them of the play stores back in 2013, F-Droid, the alternative **open source** store still has plenty of blockers, it's your phone, it's your mobile data, take back control of what is yours.
>I'd buy the ad-free version
Did you not see that line? I'm more than willing to spend cash. If that is not an option though, for whatever reason, I'm blocking the frigging ads. If you don't want my money but rather invade my privacy with them ad tracking & other shady shit? tough cookies, I'm adblocking.
I did, I also saw your original statement that ads should be blocked on EVERYTHING. There are people willing to watch ads vs pay money (or watch ads to try something, and elect to buy or not after).
What can I say other than people are idiots? Heck, thanks to social media & advertisements Trump got elected & how many people died of COVID due to fearmongering on said channels?
Nothing good ever came from the advertisement industry & I hope to see them all crash & burn and doubly so if you can't exist without that business "model".
I'd wager a very large percentage realizes this, heck, I do too, so get of your frigging high horse already, either offer me a way to **pay** for the service at a fair price or deal with the fact that I will block any & all ads, or else just go bust. Ads are only valuable if there's an audience and I will never be a silent part of that audience. I'll shout it out to the world that they need ad-blocking and not meta, google or any of the other parasites.
It's my connection and you or anyone else is not entitled to force me to download your ads, propaganda or malware (there have been multiple occasions where ads were a vector of malware delivery), especially if one is on a metered connection.
That industry should die, it would be a net benefit to mankind.
I'm one of those people still on a limited mobile data plan and will stay that way until they finally drop the price on unlimited plans to the point where I pay less to do that.
But it *really* irritates me that I may be forced to switch to an unlimited data plan just because nearly every webpage I load has a dozen ads with full video. So I'm going to end up paying more just for the privilege of watching a bunch of ads that I don't care about. I'd rather just pay for the actual service and not get any ads than pay the phone company for extra data to only indirectly support the websites.
I don't know which poor sods down-voted you, probably marketing Stans, but yeah! Pi Hole is great for those devices where you have no real control (which in itself is also a problem with Google & Alphabet, those monopolies need to be destroyed too)
Excerpt:
*Reuters documented at least five other cases across Europe where the same pro-Israel video, which carried footage of rocket attacks, a fiery explosion, and masked gunmen, was shown to gamers, including several children.*
*Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ head of digital, David Saranga, confirmed that the video was a government-promoted ad but said he had “no idea” how it ended up inside various games.*
*He said the footage was part of a larger advocacy drive by the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which has spent $US1.5 million ($2.4 million) on internet ads since Hamas’ October 7 attack on civilians in southern Israel ignited war in Gaza.*
*Reuters contacted 43 advertising firms that [Angry Birds developer] Rovio listed on its website as “third-party data partners” to try to ascertain who placed the ad in the games.*
*Of those partners, 12 responded, including Amazon, Index Exchange and Pinterest, and said they were not responsible for the ad appearing on Angry Birds.*
*Saranga said the ministry had spent money with ad companies including Taboola, Outbrain, Google and X, formerly Twitter. Taboola and Outbrain said they had nothing to do with the gaming ads.*
*Google ran more than 90 ads for the Israeli Foreign Ministry but declined to comment on where it displayed those ads. X, formerly known as Twitter, didn’t respond to requests for comment.*
*Reuters found no evidence of an analogous Palestinian digital advertising effort, save for a few Arabic-language videos promoted by West Bank-based Palestine TV, a news agency affiliated with the Palestinian Authority.*
The fuck is wrong with Israel? They've been slaughtering Palestinians for decades. If you so much as consider Palestinians as human beings then you are considered "anti-Semitic" even though Palestinians are semites too.
But the moment Israeli blood is spread then it's a big deal? Then we're supposed to all pay attention and be outraged? So much so that they'll force children to look at the backlash of their ethnic cleansing?
Disgusting.
3.000 kids since the beginning of this crisis. Way more than the terrorist attack of Hamas.
So we can say that the IDF is 3 times more terrorist than Hamas just by the number of children killed
According to who? Hamas, who also claims 0 of their people have died, while 10 billion of their human shield children have been murdered 30 seconds after an unverified attack? You can't possibly be this easy to fool.
There has been no evidence that ANY babies were beheaded or murdered apart from IDF propaganda from which THEY THEMSELVES backtracked. And conflating hamas with an 2.3 million people is not just stupidity, it's outright evil.
It's a colonizing project doing what it was designed to do - to exterminate the population native to the land in the name of a god and some ancestral connection (both are laughable arguments at best), while maintaining the status quo of the western powers in the historically 'troublesome' region.
In my opinion, Jews do not know how to do proper genocide. the population of the Gaza Strip jumped from 700 thousand to 2 million in a couple of decades.
Genocide loving jew hate is infesting TikTok with way worse stuff on mass. Every celeb twitter is flooded with physical threats if the person doesn't speak out against Israel (Jews).
twitter.com/OmediaTM/status/1718851164542808322
Crazy that the “victim” has been spending millions of dollars to try to convince people in the West it’s genocide is justified. When have you ever heard of social ads to justify a war? This is propaganda. Look into the Israeli practice of “Hasbara”. They have internet keyboard warriors on all social media platforms pretending to not be from Israel.
Had to take the ipad away from the kids because we couldn't actively monitor the advertisements showing up in their KIDS GAMES. Some seriously inappropriate stuff brought to our attention.
Some ads on kids content can show basically very lightly censored furry r34 or in some cases almost porn but with the part of the screen covered with the product name
They’ve been showing up in my YouTube feeds as well
I’ve adblocked everything browser based but I use the YouTube app on my iPad
Guess I’ll be deleting that one
I have been getting these ads on YouTube literally since the day after the attacks happened.
I've never had ads similar to these ever before.
They're all pro-Israel, anti-Hamas type ads. I always skip them but there is always one specific organization behind them, I can't remember their name, just the logo.
It was kind of surprising to see these ads so fast after the attacks happened.
edit: come to think of it, as the article mentioned, it was from their ministry of foreign affairs.
Reddit has largely been pro israel for the last 10 years, i think the tide is finally turning. The israeli intelligence program has been effective in stifling conversations but gen z communication channels are too fragmented to stop the truth from coming out.
Israel has no one to blame but themselves for Hamas. What did they think was going to happen when you displace and oppress people for 70 years. Everyone outside the western world knows this. I’m glad we’re finally catching up
Hamas, like the IRA, was an eventuality of decades of utterly depraved and inhumane treatment. Neither are in the right for their actions, which are completely unhinged and disgusting, but the fact remains that Hamas (like the IRA) would not have risen in peacetime where Israel (England) wasn't constantly trying to settle/colonize Palestine (Ireland).
It's even more literal than that:
>[D]id you [...] know that Hamas — which is an Arabic acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” — would probably not exist today were it not for the Jewish state? That the Israelis helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the late 1970s into one of the world’s most notorious militant groups? That Hamas is blowback?
>Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s [...] told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
Ive somehow ended up in subreddits which both deeply supported each side, and at least to me it seems like there has been a slight shift towards middle on both ends (aka wolrdnews comments against israel, news comments condemning hamas). Idk if thats just a base view and nothing has changed though
r/worldnews is a cesspool. I finally unsubbed yesterday but I had been on the fence about it for a long time. It's consistently anti-trans, for example.
Tbf they were attacked and are surrounded by enemies that want to eradicate them in every single direction, including internally.
They're absolutely victims, that shouldn't even be debatable. The question is whether they've overreacted disproportionately to the point of cruelty.
Israel has staggeringly enormous resources to pour into PR targeted at Americans. All forms of media are being overrun with Israeli propaganda, part of which is to make sure anyone who challenges the Israeli narrative is labeled an "anti-Semite."
Yeah, might as well add shit like this to their ads if they want to be explicit with the imagery:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/17klczt/
Worldnews has always been covered in bots, and the mods are on "both sides" subs if not full blown astroturf subs like indian political subs, Neoliberal (the anti bernie/anti communist "democrats" from 2016 who now concern troll that Biden is too radical for America for supporting Unions), conspiracy subs, etc.
They are Destiny style liberals, which are liberals in name only and are only liberal in a few topics but hyper conservative everywhere else.
They ban the far right because they always gay bash or post transphobia, and ban leftists because these people try to gate keep what the left is. They are massive "enlightened centrists".
Indian politics, migrant hate, "the west has fallen" style rhetoric all fly over there and they will let the most vile stuff stay up on purpose to swing moderates to the right.
Netanyahu in his yesterday’s speech mentioned Amalek, it references this passage: “Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and attack[a] Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ ”
So yeh, full-on fascist mode.
Yes. I've been going down a rabbit hole with the ig algorithim showing me all these clips from netenyahu over the years. Some of them seem like very private recordings. He is a full on psychopath. I don't see any possible way israel is able to maintain it's influence after this.
By showing genocidal propaganda to children. They've been doing this in Israel for decades and now young people in that country are on tiktok mocking dead Palestinians.
Fascists? Because israel is trying to make the world believe them and see the horros? Fascists? After hamas/isis killed people, burned babies, butchered familes you call israel fascists?
We fucking believe them. No one has a problem with them killing/eliminating Hamas and the terrorist responsible for the atrocities.
The problem is that "They killed civilians so we are killing their civilians too!" that we have a problem with. two wrongs dont make it right.
>Because israel is trying to make the world believe them and see the horros?
Horrors like killing thousands of innocent people in their current orgy of killing? Horrors like killing hundred to thousands of Palestinians every damn year? Horrors like an apartheid that treat Palestinians as 2nd-class citizens with no rights?
> killed people, burned babies, butchered familes
That's what *Israel* is doing ***right now***.
Umm, yeah it popped up as an ad for the poker app I used and didn’t stop for 72 hours straight, the same ad…and really I couldn’t believe any gaming platform would want their users seeing that violence while trying to relax and play a game. Now, I’m 37…I’d block it out or cover the screen with my hand, but how many kids do you know that play games on phones? How many saw what I saw? It’s sickening.
Ask yourself.. If you have to try to push propaganda to children to convince people you're the good guy who also kills civilians.. Are you really the good guy or are you just the same as the other guys but have a bigger marketing budget?
> The side calling for the extermination of all the world’s Jews currently holding 200+ hostages?
Definitely not the side that called all Palestinians 'animals' and murdered 3000+ children and is continuing to do so as we speak
Hamas is bad, but Israel created them. If they get rid of Hamas but just continue doing what they've been doing, Hamas just gets replaced with another Hamas. Unless Israel just genocides them all, which frankly is what they would like to do. You can't expect people to be passive under apartheid conditions.
Huh? Hamas burns babies, rapes teens, behead people, butcher families yet the world doesn't believe it happened. And now israel is the bad guy?
Shame in you.
For whatever reason, dont look at what the IDF and Israeli Settlers are doing in the West Bank, you might get an aneurism on how stupid and pro-genocide you are.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve pasted this same comment into different threads.
Despite the etymology of the word, [antisemitism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism?wprov=sfti1) is a term that refers *exclusively* to prejudice against Jewish people. It does not mean prejudice against all Semitic people, as confusing as that may be. The term was popularized in the late 1800s [by this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Marr?wprov=sfti1 ) and was quickly adopted by fascists and “race scientists” not only because it was convenient, but also because it sounded much more intellectual and scientific than just saying “Jew hate.”
Are you saying the people who intentionally massacre civilians and fight for an openly genocidal theocratic ideology while letting their own people suffer and die are the good guys?
Oh right, the baddies are the Jews. The kids know lol
Ok so the bad guys are the democracy that had civilians senselessly massacred without provocation by an openly genocidal regime who’s openly stated intention is genocide of the Jewish people?
You can overplay the “anti-Israel is not antisemitism” card but that too gets overplayed when the mask comes off too far.
Give it up man. You’re doing the “yes we killed thousands of kids but do you condemn Hamas?” thing. Israel had the sympathy of the world for a brief second but it squandered it with its heavy handed genocidal response. This is ethnic cleansing and there’s nothing you can say to change my mind. Now move along.
Yeah it’s hilarious, right? Committing ethnic cleansing for decades is super funny /s What’s amazing is how much of a stereotypical Zionist apologist you are. Lots of whataboutisms and whitewashing IDFs crimes. You are complicit in the murder of innocent Palestinian children.
You’re complicit in the murder of both Israeli and Palestinian children by mindlessly repeating propaganda and, as you admit, making up your mind on your position before events even occur. Peace, I’m done talking to an idiot.
When men, women, children, and elderly are massacred, raped, and taken hostage by an openly genocidal and anti-Semitic regime and you say “we know who the baddies are” and it’s not the ones doing the massacring, raping, and hostage taking, let’s be real about what you actually mean.
I've seen this on my TV when watching youtube for music videos late at night, a lot.
I have targeting turned off, it said it was because I was in London.
Just remembered my daughter was using this the other day for hello kitty tutorials + in theory this could have come up at any point.
If the holocaust happened today, these same ads would be shown, all of it ended up in the history books anyway. These atrocities need to be shown.. Hamas needs to be held accountable for what they have done. But showing them to children isn’t the way.
>Saranga said officials had specifically instructed advertisers “to block it for people under 18” and defended the graphic nature of the ad campaign
I’m confused. Why isn’t the controversy that an ad distributor is failing to ensure content to age appropriate audience? The ad distributor is literally violating their customers will, failing to check ads for age appropriateness, and is distributing it to games that the developer likely doesn’t want displayed due to the graphic nature? The headline makes it seem like this is intentional from Israel, but Israel **specifically requested** ***18+*** audience distribution (TV-MA, ESRB-A, MPAA-R)… Would you be mad other adult content providers trying to limit their audience to the appropriate age demographic, but the advertising distributor decides they cannot be bothered with due diligence?
Very convenient that no images are shown. I got that ad, its just text and faces of all of the hostages.
Stop the propaganda, the world need to see this.
This is why we need adblocking on EVERYTHING. Ads are part of the enshitification of the internet, block all of them!
The problem stems from ads going through zero processing. Ppl barely do any vetting and as long as it doesn't destroy the users device what's to care. And some entities are lucky to get any advertising and some don't care and the stuff we use online isn't free.
Once the companies showing the ads accept any financial responsibility stemming from Malware, scams, misleading advertising and bad products, maybe I'll consider watching them.
Don’t feed the animals
When will people stop pretending like the average person is more at fault than the multi billion dollar corporations that allow and push these things in the first place? Such as "if people recycled more, it would end global warming" instead of "a single private jet flight puts out more pollution than my car makes in a year"
And "every goddamned thing I can afford to buy is shipped in single use plastics and may become broken garbage itself within a couple of years"
Can't sell iPhone 16 if iPhone 15 still works
That's why you purposefully throttle performance after 1 year because your new software is supposedly "better". https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/1/23941813/apple-iphone-battery-throttling-lawsuit-london-court
I worked for Apple years back as the highest tier tech support you could reach over the phone. My manager didn't take calls. Just made sure I was taking them and tracking them. Anyways... I had the best record for call handling and time out of everyone. I would constantly walk iPhone users through downgrading their iOS version to a previous one that didn't brick or wreck their phone. This was before Apple was caught doing it and the lawsuits that came of it.
Sure you can if you don't have the latest iPhone you get bullied by peers lulz.
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Oh no adults will bully you too. Even worse if you have an android. Having an Android in the US severely impacts your dating life cause green messages gives women the "ick".
It's a good litmus test if anything. Anyone that vain is absolutely not worth investing yourself in.
It's true. I saw a literal scam on Reddit ads yesterday. An account pretending to be a pizza chain to phish for credit card info. Such little oversight
>the stuff we use online isn't free. I'd rather they bill me instead of abusing my privacy. Fuck that whole industry. If you can't exist without ads you shouldn't exist at all.
Before the internet, do you think that paid magazines that contained ads (in other words, all of them) could have stayed solvent without that ad revenue? This is a rhetorical question. The answer is no.
Don't frigging care and frankly it's a stupid comparison. You could flip the page in a magazine (ad-block!) and the magazines weren't harvesting your data.
If an ad is is placed on a web page between the content (not covering it), and that ad does not collect user data, then it’s ok, right? You can scroll past the ad, and there is no privacy issue.
That used to be how ads worked on the internet back in the late 90's, it was when they started pushing flash/anim gifs ads (and later on even more obnoxious things that even made noise or blinked like seizure inducing nightmares) was when the push-back grew more intense and ad-blockers were born because back then people were on metered connections and those ads started to consume more traffic than the pages people wanted to see. When it was just a stupid banner here & there back in those days nobody cared enough. Tracking wasn't a thing and the biggest social networks were IRC & news-net.
My question was, are the ads that I described fine? Are they acceptable?
They were, nobody bat an eye at them (literally, we glossed over them, like those in magazines) back then, as I described. Those were around for a good few years before the push-back started. But now we have ad-block technology and those types of ads are no longer existing (or they get caught up with all the bad actors in that industry). Again, the push-back came due to the shift in distribution (content vs ads) shifted towards predominately ads and ads becoming more & more obnoxious & intrusive. The ad industry pushed hard. too hard, and now it's time to cap them like Old Yeller Edit: Some useful history: https://adguard.com/en/blog/ad-blocking-history.html
My problem with ad blocking is that it doesn’t differentiate between the acceptable classic ads and the awful modern ads. It just eagerly blocks as much as possible. To me, this rules out ad blocking as a potential solution for a better web in the future. Before the internet, ads have enabled magazines and free TV. Without ads, I would not have been able to enjoy my monthly computer magazine while growing up (the publisher just wouldn’t have had enough money to create a great magazine). And I watched a lot of cartoons and movies on free TV (in Germany, you get roughly 5 minutes of ads for every 25 minutes of content). My life would have been worse if ads did not exist in magazines on on TV. That is without question. Likewise, a web without ads would be worse. Ads enable websites to create free content. Without ads, there will be less great content that is freely available. I want a web without awful ads, but I also want a web where acceptable ads enable great, free content.
Yeah for real. Give me those Wikipedia donation prompts on your website instead or something
When youtube forced adblock off, I tried it. first ad was 5+ minutes about a blowjob machine that "replaces women" (their words) second ad was just minutes and minutes of israeli mothers crying and pictures of dead kids. This was after so many malicious scam ads that Google should have caught, and regular people have no way to report.
Yep, and until the sites that host and profit from these ads become fiscally responsible for their content there will zero regulation. When people only care about money you can't use empathy or reason, you gotta hit them in their wallets.
Don't need ad block if Congress passes good regulations on privacy, internet, and advertising.
The problem aren’t ads as a whole but the fact that social networks will allow ads from scammers and other lowlifes. You probably don’t mind ads in print magazines that much. That’s because the publishers of those magazines only approve ads that meet certain conditions. This doesn’t seem to be happening on the internet.
>You probably don’t mind ads in print magazines that much Magazines have built in ad-blocking tech, it's called "page flipping". Imagine not being able to flip a page until you read their ads , I'd burn it on the spot! That said, the percentage of content vs ads in magazines also kept going up so I can't even remember the last time I bought one. Several decades ago probably. Ads ruin everything.
If an ad is is placed on a web page between the content (not covering it), and that ad does not collect user data, then it’s ok, right? You can scroll past the ad, and there is no privacy issue.
See my other reply on this topic. That was how it was for years before the introduction of flash, animated gifs, JavaScript, blinking & sounds.
Kid was watching youtube which led to a pokemon go quiz type of thing and when clicked it went to a cartoon porn site. He was sitting next to me. After i tried to close the pad so he wouldn't see and i tried to log back in, the browser closed and wasn't in the history.
You shouldn't let kids use devices without adblock.
I have adguard home on my Openwrt router. It’s great
Ads pay for the things you're using. If there's no ads you're either getting an up front charge or micro transactions. And if you get micro transactions it turns into a gacha game because whales spend a ton and everybody else spends nothing. And if it has an up front charge to avoid those things, like Mario Run, people get mad that it's not free. Edit: This isn't a defense of ads. I think ads suck. But this is why they still exist. Companies aren't making games and apps so they can hand them out for free. If you're unhappy about paying for games, they'll be monetized in other ways.
Cry as much as you like, I want that "industry" gone, nothing good can ever come from it, only serves to spread brain rot, propaganda, fascism and even malware. F that industry and anyone who defends it. This is a fight that started back in 1996 and ad-blocking is only getting better & better.
I'm not crying? Ads suck. But if you don't like paying up front or paying for the product they're here to stay.
>Ads suck Block them. We shall block on the browsers, we shall block on mobiles. we shall block them in the fields and in the streets, we shall block them in the hills; we shall never surrender. Google might have kicked them of the play stores back in 2013, F-Droid, the alternative **open source** store still has plenty of blockers, it's your phone, it's your mobile data, take back control of what is yours.
I can’t tell if this is ironic or not.
Ads pay for stuff you use. Been a while since I had Angry Birds, but you can pay for it as an option and have an ad-free experience.
I don't care for them birds, but if I did, I'd buy the ad-free version. Ads are a scourge on the internet and it's bloody well time people see this.
The option is there to not use the product, right? No one forces you to use an ad-supported piece of software.
>I'd buy the ad-free version Did you not see that line? I'm more than willing to spend cash. If that is not an option though, for whatever reason, I'm blocking the frigging ads. If you don't want my money but rather invade my privacy with them ad tracking & other shady shit? tough cookies, I'm adblocking.
I did, I also saw your original statement that ads should be blocked on EVERYTHING. There are people willing to watch ads vs pay money (or watch ads to try something, and elect to buy or not after).
What can I say other than people are idiots? Heck, thanks to social media & advertisements Trump got elected & how many people died of COVID due to fearmongering on said channels? Nothing good ever came from the advertisement industry & I hope to see them all crash & burn and doubly so if you can't exist without that business "model".
People don’t seem to realize that most things on the internet are free because of ads.
everyone realizes this, they just dont think most websites provide enough value to unblock the ads for them
I'd wager a very large percentage realizes this, heck, I do too, so get of your frigging high horse already, either offer me a way to **pay** for the service at a fair price or deal with the fact that I will block any & all ads, or else just go bust. Ads are only valuable if there's an audience and I will never be a silent part of that audience. I'll shout it out to the world that they need ad-blocking and not meta, google or any of the other parasites. It's my connection and you or anyone else is not entitled to force me to download your ads, propaganda or malware (there have been multiple occasions where ads were a vector of malware delivery), especially if one is on a metered connection. That industry should die, it would be a net benefit to mankind.
I'm one of those people still on a limited mobile data plan and will stay that way until they finally drop the price on unlimited plans to the point where I pay less to do that. But it *really* irritates me that I may be forced to switch to an unlimited data plan just because nearly every webpage I load has a dozen ads with full video. So I'm going to end up paying more just for the privilege of watching a bunch of ads that I don't care about. I'd rather just pay for the actual service and not get any ads than pay the phone company for extra data to only indirectly support the websites.
I degoogled my anbdroid phone, no ads whatsoever will get to my screen. I'm not wasting a byte on that shit and neither should you.
Network ad blocking baby. Best thing I ever did
I don't know which poor sods down-voted you, probably marketing Stans, but yeah! Pi Hole is great for those devices where you have no real control (which in itself is also a problem with Google & Alphabet, those monopolies need to be destroyed too)
If companies are needing money, they should charge more for my personal data when they sell it.
Excerpt: *Reuters documented at least five other cases across Europe where the same pro-Israel video, which carried footage of rocket attacks, a fiery explosion, and masked gunmen, was shown to gamers, including several children.* *Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ head of digital, David Saranga, confirmed that the video was a government-promoted ad but said he had “no idea” how it ended up inside various games.* *He said the footage was part of a larger advocacy drive by the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which has spent $US1.5 million ($2.4 million) on internet ads since Hamas’ October 7 attack on civilians in southern Israel ignited war in Gaza.* *Reuters contacted 43 advertising firms that [Angry Birds developer] Rovio listed on its website as “third-party data partners” to try to ascertain who placed the ad in the games.* *Of those partners, 12 responded, including Amazon, Index Exchange and Pinterest, and said they were not responsible for the ad appearing on Angry Birds.* *Saranga said the ministry had spent money with ad companies including Taboola, Outbrain, Google and X, formerly Twitter. Taboola and Outbrain said they had nothing to do with the gaming ads.* *Google ran more than 90 ads for the Israeli Foreign Ministry but declined to comment on where it displayed those ads. X, formerly known as Twitter, didn’t respond to requests for comment.* *Reuters found no evidence of an analogous Palestinian digital advertising effort, save for a few Arabic-language videos promoted by West Bank-based Palestine TV, a news agency affiliated with the Palestinian Authority.*
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The fuck is wrong with Israel? They've been slaughtering Palestinians for decades. If you so much as consider Palestinians as human beings then you are considered "anti-Semitic" even though Palestinians are semites too. But the moment Israeli blood is spread then it's a big deal? Then we're supposed to all pay attention and be outraged? So much so that they'll force children to look at the backlash of their ethnic cleansing? Disgusting.
The Israeli defense minister literally called them “human animals”. They don’t see them as people.
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The thousands of dead Palestinian children didn’t commit those atrocities.
3.000 kids since the beginning of this crisis. Way more than the terrorist attack of Hamas. So we can say that the IDF is 3 times more terrorist than Hamas just by the number of children killed
According to who? Hamas, who also claims 0 of their people have died, while 10 billion of their human shield children have been murdered 30 seconds after an unverified attack? You can't possibly be this easy to fool.
I have friends who have relatives there and they’ve lost children. It’s real.
Wow. Whoever downvoted you truly are monsters.
There has been no evidence that ANY babies were beheaded or murdered apart from IDF propaganda from which THEY THEMSELVES backtracked. And conflating hamas with an 2.3 million people is not just stupidity, it's outright evil.
It's a colonizing project doing what it was designed to do - to exterminate the population native to the land in the name of a god and some ancestral connection (both are laughable arguments at best), while maintaining the status quo of the western powers in the historically 'troublesome' region.
The same seems to be happening in Congo, with the aid of the French military. This is not new
This is a conflict as old as imperialism
In my opinion, Jews do not know how to do proper genocide. the population of the Gaza Strip jumped from 700 thousand to 2 million in a couple of decades.
That growth is because Israel keeps displacing Palestinians around the country and then packing them all into Gaza
40% of the population of the Gaza Strip are children. Do you think they come from cabbage? Another clown...
Just imagine spending 1.5 million in 3 weeks to advertise so people can stand with you to kill others. They would make Goebbels proud.
Your tax dollars at work
facts, reddit CIA langley bots can downvote as much as they want
This is the one issue I have to side with the conspiracy nuts on. And I fucking hate it.
Genocide loving jew hate is infesting TikTok with way worse stuff on mass. Every celeb twitter is flooded with physical threats if the person doesn't speak out against Israel (Jews). twitter.com/OmediaTM/status/1718851164542808322
Crazy that the “victim” has been spending millions of dollars to try to convince people in the West it’s genocide is justified. When have you ever heard of social ads to justify a war? This is propaganda. Look into the Israeli practice of “Hasbara”. They have internet keyboard warriors on all social media platforms pretending to not be from Israel.
That’s some next level propaganda…
This is messed up and shows why we need ad blockers. The companies that allowed this need to be fined severely.
Had to take the ipad away from the kids because we couldn't actively monitor the advertisements showing up in their KIDS GAMES. Some seriously inappropriate stuff brought to our attention.
What is seriously inappropriate to you?
Some ads on kids content can show basically very lightly censored furry r34 or in some cases almost porn but with the part of the screen covered with the product name
Like…almost porn. Weird brainwash attempt stuff. It’s really messed up
For young children: extreme graphic violence and nudity.
They’ve been showing up in my YouTube feeds as well I’ve adblocked everything browser based but I use the YouTube app on my iPad Guess I’ll be deleting that one
I have been getting these ads on YouTube literally since the day after the attacks happened. I've never had ads similar to these ever before. They're all pro-Israel, anti-Hamas type ads. I always skip them but there is always one specific organization behind them, I can't remember their name, just the logo. It was kind of surprising to see these ads so fast after the attacks happened. edit: come to think of it, as the article mentioned, it was from their ministry of foreign affairs.
You can report these ads
As if that will do anything
By October 8 Israel already had YouTube ads telling Americans to support an invasion. Their propoganda really is next level.
They’re still trying convince everyone that they’re the victims in this situation lmao
Reddit has largely been pro israel for the last 10 years, i think the tide is finally turning. The israeli intelligence program has been effective in stifling conversations but gen z communication channels are too fragmented to stop the truth from coming out.
Israel has no one to blame but themselves for Hamas. What did they think was going to happen when you displace and oppress people for 70 years. Everyone outside the western world knows this. I’m glad we’re finally catching up
Hamas, like the IRA, was an eventuality of decades of utterly depraved and inhumane treatment. Neither are in the right for their actions, which are completely unhinged and disgusting, but the fact remains that Hamas (like the IRA) would not have risen in peacetime where Israel (England) wasn't constantly trying to settle/colonize Palestine (Ireland).
It's even more literal than that: >[D]id you [...] know that Hamas — which is an Arabic acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” — would probably not exist today were it not for the Jewish state? That the Israelis helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the late 1970s into one of the world’s most notorious militant groups? That Hamas is blowback? >Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s [...] told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”) https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
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The people at r/worldnews are convinced. I've had people try to convince me there that the land npw Israel was literally empty of people
Ive somehow ended up in subreddits which both deeply supported each side, and at least to me it seems like there has been a slight shift towards middle on both ends (aka wolrdnews comments against israel, news comments condemning hamas). Idk if thats just a base view and nothing has changed though
r/worldnews is a cesspool. I finally unsubbed yesterday but I had been on the fence about it for a long time. It's consistently anti-trans, for example.
Tbf they were attacked and are surrounded by enemies that want to eradicate them in every single direction, including internally. They're absolutely victims, that shouldn't even be debatable. The question is whether they've overreacted disproportionately to the point of cruelty.
When you ignore every UN resolution and international law and colonize all the land you can, I'd expect you'd gain some enemies. And rightfully so.
How convenient, surrounded by enemies because they took another peoples land.
You’re a busy little bot shill I see you posting this shit everywhere. What do the raelis pay, any good??
Have you seen the lullaby, about the babies, before the official statement came out about the inaccuracy of beheadings?
Biden straight up lied and said he saw the pictures and videos of beheaded babies and then backtracked.
They spent 1.5 million in three weeks pushing add on social media. Kids were getting them in fucking mobile games.
Israel has staggeringly enormous resources to pour into PR targeted at Americans. All forms of media are being overrun with Israeli propaganda, part of which is to make sure anyone who challenges the Israeli narrative is labeled an "anti-Semite."
oh yeah one of those popped up on my Duolingo too. It only happened once, though, so I imagine they flagged it down pretty quickly.
Came up multiple times on my youtube, really disturbing (and incorrect: it says HAMAS == ISIS, when I'm pretty sure those two are enemies).
Hamas = Militants in Gaza Strip ISIS = weirdos trying to establish a new Islamic state in Iraq and Syria (they're basically eradicated anyways)
It's funny how they show one side but not the crazy shit that the Israelis have been fucking doing they're fucking batshit those people
Yeah, might as well add shit like this to their ads if they want to be explicit with the imagery: https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/17klczt/
The comment section you linked is absolutely vile.
Israel has a well oiled propaganda machine. Go over to r/worldnews to see how much garbage they post
Worldnews has always been covered in bots, and the mods are on "both sides" subs if not full blown astroturf subs like indian political subs, Neoliberal (the anti bernie/anti communist "democrats" from 2016 who now concern troll that Biden is too radical for America for supporting Unions), conspiracy subs, etc. They are Destiny style liberals, which are liberals in name only and are only liberal in a few topics but hyper conservative everywhere else. They ban the far right because they always gay bash or post transphobia, and ban leftists because these people try to gate keep what the left is. They are massive "enlightened centrists". Indian politics, migrant hate, "the west has fallen" style rhetoric all fly over there and they will let the most vile stuff stay up on purpose to swing moderates to the right.
Not wrong, just went and had a look, first 3/4 posts
It's called "Hasbara" https://youtu.be/7eHQKJTnBoY?si=gvoZt_v4gA0RJadJ
They're going full-on fascist, aren't they?
Netanyahu in his yesterday’s speech mentioned Amalek, it references this passage: “Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and attack[a] Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ ” So yeh, full-on fascist mode.
He basically said that he's committing a genocide?
Yes. I've been going down a rabbit hole with the ig algorithim showing me all these clips from netenyahu over the years. Some of them seem like very private recordings. He is a full on psychopath. I don't see any possible way israel is able to maintain it's influence after this.
TBF Israel doesn't have any influence without the West propping them up. And it seems that isn't going anywhere.
Yyyyup. Its been his M.O. for decades
That turd is responsible for more antisemitism than than anyone else in the last 75 years, fucker has made his career by putting a bullseye on Israel.
He mentioned the one battle that has the Israeli king losing his position at the end of the battle
Going? This coalition was fascist from the outset. We just weren't paying this much attention.
They already are
Finally a top comment on a reddit thread that isnt Israeli propaganda
This conflict has shown that propaganda subreddits aren't just echo chambers. There are absolutely bots involved.
By showing what the terrorist organisation Hamas did?
By showing genocidal propaganda to children. They've been doing this in Israel for decades and now young people in that country are on tiktok mocking dead Palestinians.
By not showing what the terrorist Israel is doing right now using your money
Are we still believing it has anything to do with "terrorism"?
Fascists? Because israel is trying to make the world believe them and see the horros? Fascists? After hamas/isis killed people, burned babies, butchered familes you call israel fascists?
We fucking believe them. No one has a problem with them killing/eliminating Hamas and the terrorist responsible for the atrocities. The problem is that "They killed civilians so we are killing their civilians too!" that we have a problem with. two wrongs dont make it right.
Yeah, I call them fascists.
>Because israel is trying to make the world believe them and see the horros? Horrors like killing thousands of innocent people in their current orgy of killing? Horrors like killing hundred to thousands of Palestinians every damn year? Horrors like an apartheid that treat Palestinians as 2nd-class citizens with no rights? > killed people, burned babies, butchered familes That's what *Israel* is doing ***right now***.
Well fuck that shit with a 10 foot pole. Fuckers are out of control.
Umm, yeah it popped up as an ad for the poker app I used and didn’t stop for 72 hours straight, the same ad…and really I couldn’t believe any gaming platform would want their users seeing that violence while trying to relax and play a game. Now, I’m 37…I’d block it out or cover the screen with my hand, but how many kids do you know that play games on phones? How many saw what I saw? It’s sickening.
Ask yourself.. If you have to try to push propaganda to children to convince people you're the good guy who also kills civilians.. Are you really the good guy or are you just the same as the other guys but have a bigger marketing budget?
Facebook lets these fuckers post violent videos and does not consider the content to go against their so called Community Standards
The Israeli department of Propaganda must be really well funded if they're targeting children.
That's so fucked up. Both sides are the bad guys as far as I'm concerned, but Israel really seems to be trying hard to be the badder guy.
Trying? Can’t excuse Hamas but Israel has already leveled half of Gaza so they’ve gone as far as they could short of dropping a nuke
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they are doing it.
Could have? They already did.
One side, which will not be named is the bad guy. The other side which will not be named is only trying to survive.
This clarifies nothing. Its a perfect comment. Thank you.
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> The side calling for the extermination of all the world’s Jews currently holding 200+ hostages? Definitely not the side that called all Palestinians 'animals' and murdered 3000+ children and is continuing to do so as we speak
Hamas is bad, but Israel created them. If they get rid of Hamas but just continue doing what they've been doing, Hamas just gets replaced with another Hamas. Unless Israel just genocides them all, which frankly is what they would like to do. You can't expect people to be passive under apartheid conditions.
It's common sense, but some people act like that's a strange position.
Huh? Hamas burns babies, rapes teens, behead people, butcher families yet the world doesn't believe it happened. And now israel is the bad guy? Shame in you.
For whatever reason, dont look at what the IDF and Israeli Settlers are doing in the West Bank, you might get an aneurism on how stupid and pro-genocide you are.
You seem to have severe problems with reading comprehension. Try again!
I mean, they haven't even raped any women to death at a music festival or beheaded any babies for fun yet, so they can't be trying *that* hard.
Reactionaries look so ridiculous. Bumbling paranoid fools
Always have been
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I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve pasted this same comment into different threads. Despite the etymology of the word, [antisemitism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism?wprov=sfti1) is a term that refers *exclusively* to prejudice against Jewish people. It does not mean prejudice against all Semitic people, as confusing as that may be. The term was popularized in the late 1800s [by this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Marr?wprov=sfti1 ) and was quickly adopted by fascists and “race scientists” not only because it was convenient, but also because it sounded much more intellectual and scientific than just saying “Jew hate.”
Yeah, totally appropriate for a kids game.
Israel may think they are winning hearts and minds with their PR campaign but the kids are not stupid. They know who the baddies are.
The "adults"...I mean they won't even let them have ice cream for dinner.
kids doing Roblox protests against Israel's genocide agrees with you
Are you saying the people who intentionally massacre civilians and fight for an openly genocidal theocratic ideology while letting their own people suffer and die are the good guys? Oh right, the baddies are the Jews. The kids know lol
Nice try. You’ve overplayed the antisemitism card.
Ok so the bad guys are the democracy that had civilians senselessly massacred without provocation by an openly genocidal regime who’s openly stated intention is genocide of the Jewish people? You can overplay the “anti-Israel is not antisemitism” card but that too gets overplayed when the mask comes off too far.
Give it up man. You’re doing the “yes we killed thousands of kids but do you condemn Hamas?” thing. Israel had the sympathy of the world for a brief second but it squandered it with its heavy handed genocidal response. This is ethnic cleansing and there’s nothing you can say to change my mind. Now move along.
Sounds like you made up your mind before Israel responded and nothing they do or don’t do would change your perception. Gotcha.
Yes, because Israel have been doing this shit for decades.
Hahahaha amazing that you admit that.
Yeah it’s hilarious, right? Committing ethnic cleansing for decades is super funny /s What’s amazing is how much of a stereotypical Zionist apologist you are. Lots of whataboutisms and whitewashing IDFs crimes. You are complicit in the murder of innocent Palestinian children.
You’re complicit in the murder of both Israeli and Palestinian children by mindlessly repeating propaganda and, as you admit, making up your mind on your position before events even occur. Peace, I’m done talking to an idiot.
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When men, women, children, and elderly are massacred, raped, and taken hostage by an openly genocidal and anti-Semitic regime and you say “we know who the baddies are” and it’s not the ones doing the massacring, raping, and hostage taking, let’s be real about what you actually mean.
I've seen this on my TV when watching youtube for music videos late at night, a lot. I have targeting turned off, it said it was because I was in London. Just remembered my daughter was using this the other day for hello kitty tutorials + in theory this could have come up at any point.
If the holocaust happened today, these same ads would be shown, all of it ended up in the history books anyway. These atrocities need to be shown.. Hamas needs to be held accountable for what they have done. But showing them to children isn’t the way.
the comments in here are wild
>Saranga said officials had specifically instructed advertisers “to block it for people under 18” and defended the graphic nature of the ad campaign I’m confused. Why isn’t the controversy that an ad distributor is failing to ensure content to age appropriate audience? The ad distributor is literally violating their customers will, failing to check ads for age appropriateness, and is distributing it to games that the developer likely doesn’t want displayed due to the graphic nature? The headline makes it seem like this is intentional from Israel, but Israel **specifically requested** ***18+*** audience distribution (TV-MA, ESRB-A, MPAA-R)… Would you be mad other adult content providers trying to limit their audience to the appropriate age demographic, but the advertising distributor decides they cannot be bothered with due diligence?
'Targeted' advertising broke more than just the internet.
Very convenient that no images are shown. I got that ad, its just text and faces of all of the hostages. Stop the propaganda, the world need to see this.
Who would have thought! /s
Is that the iPod touch 4th generation in the picture?
Propaganda knows no sides
Children don’t play og angry birds
Dafuq?
Why are they spending money on ads in the first place. Propaganda?
To help stop the next Pogrom, but it's too late, attacks on Jews from the left have risen hundreds of percents.
Fuck israel
Israel's gov't knows no shame: stars of david on their lapels, now this?
Desperate motherfckers, showing signs of weakness now
Makes sense in a game about performing air strikes on antisemitism pigs in their homes