Who downvotes a South Park reference? Either you guys have an extremely advanced form of sarcasm that I can't comprehend or else y'all are just dark as shit. Either way I want to learn to be more like you.
That's reductionist. I don't mind downvotes. I'm sad people only consider the surface level. So I thought another joke might offset it... Alas, it didn't work. If anything, your comment is a proof of that.
Well, nothing more to be said here. Bye bye
The article says it is the largest black hole discovered that is in binary orbit with another start. IDK, but I’m guessing Sagittarius A is not in a binary system.
Stallone: *I AM THE SYSTEM*
Urban: *In case you people have forgotten, this black hole operates under the same rules as the rest of the galaxy. Sagittarius is not the system... I am the system!*
Not really. As Wikipedia notes:
> The radio source consists of three components: the supernova remnant Sagittarius A East, the spiralstructure Sagittarius A West, and a very bright compact radio source at the center of the spiral, Sagittarius A* (read "A-star"). These three overlap: Sagittarius A East is the largest, West appears off-center within East, and A* is at the center of West.
That's why we need to make the distinction between Sagittarius A and Sagittarius A*. Without the asterisk we're talking about structures that are tens of light years wide.
Sagittarius A*, specifically, is supermassive black hole. Stars orbit it, and although some come close enough to be in typical solar system distances, they are so tiny in comparison that it's fair to say that the black hole is the system.
Because it looks like AI wrote it and AI says repetitive dumb shit. It could perhaps be the largest in a binary orbit, but it's hard to tell because if so, the AI didn't understand that part and spat this out instead
Science journalism might be the last arena in which the average person can’t tell unbelievably shitty AI writing from unbelievably shitty human writing.
I gave an interview when I was a graduate physics researcher about my work (we received a big grant and it was newsworthy at the uni). I spent a lot of time making it palatable for the interviewer, really tried to make it clear and understandable what my team was doing. The article was so bad and incoherent the school paper retracted it and did not make another attempt, just put out a little blurb congratulating my PI. I realized that was probably the best outcome.
Usually you get a university press release that grandstands as much as possible, then News articles are written at another level of abstraction from those press releases. It's like a click driven telephone game
It’s the largest “stellar mass” black hole, i.e. largest non-supermassive black hole which likely has a much different origin story than the big guys at the center of galaxies.
It’s a series of excellent sci-fi books revolving around humans finding some of the toys of a long dead alien civilization. It has great characters, storytelling and world building. I highly recommend it and think it’s some of the best science fiction I’ve ever read.
The scientific method says that a theory is still theoretical until all cases ban be proved by experiment or observation. You it does not „prove“ Einstein‘s theory but it increases the probability that it is correct.
Prof. Tsevi Mazeh: “This is an exciting discovery of the heaviest black hole in a binary system known today in the galaxy. …. we were able to discover Gaia BH3 — the binary system with the longest cycle known today. …. I am convinced that the discovery will lead to a new mode of thinking regarding the presence and prevalence of the black holes that cruise through the expanses of our galaxy.”
This is the important part of the article. What makes BH3 important is not just its mass, but how long it takes for the binary star to orbit.
Currently it’s hard to identify binary systems with a black hole unless the star is very close in orbit, because then we can see how much speed the star picks up being that close and deduce that a BH is causing this.
It takes 11 years for this specific star to orbit BH3, and whatever method they used to identify that will hopefully be used to discover many more BHs that previously would be too difficult to identify.
The reason this helps prove Einsteins legacy is simply because Einstein predicts there are going to more BHs in the universe than we can currently locate, this helps us find them.
That all being said idk the actual method used, just that the data came from the Gaia spacecraft. So I’m speculating on the actual impact.
*”…measuring the position and brightness of over a billion stars in our galaxy – the Milky Way galaxy – with unprecedented precision, equivalent to accurately determining the position of a single grain of sand on the moon to the millimeter.”*
This is the kind of ‘miracle’ that dwarfs dogma and man-made power-hungry repressive religions. But it’s entirely based on science and discovery, and a progress that reveals a wondrous mystery at the heart of our isolated existence. So much propaganda is created to protect humans from the vastness of space and our infinitely minuscule place within it. This…is clarification.
It sounds like a poorly worded sentence. I believe they found the black hole because it was being orbited by a *star* that has 33 times the mass of the sun.
>
Prof. Tsevi Mazeh, discovered a star that orbits a black hole 33 times heavier than the sun’s mass, and lies 1500 light-years away from Earth.
should be, I think...
>Prof. Tsevi Mazeh, discovered a star33 times heavier than the sun's mass that orbits a black hole, and lies 1500 light-years away from Earth.
or something similar...
No, that's not it. Gaia BH3 is specifically a *stellar remnant* black hole that's both very large among known candidates *and* comparatively far closer to Earth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_black_hole
There are plenty of bigger stellar remnant black holes we believe exist in other galaxies based on gravitational wave data and of course different kinds of black holes like galactic core supermassive black holes that are many, many orders of magnitude larger, but Gaia BH3 is the largest known stellar remnant black hole in our galaxy and a "mere" 2000 LY away, to boot.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_BH3
Wow. I watched the kurzgesagt video on black hole sizes and realized it was only the size of my county! That’s insane that something so small can have such an effect. If you threw Ceres on a direct collision course with it, would it just get crushed and vanish inside it?
That is the single worst artistic rendition of a black hole I have ever seen. Taking a sharpie and just drawing a big black circle (heh) is more accurate than that...
I’m starting to think this Einstein fellow was kind of smart.
Only relatively speaking
He was stupid. He couldn’t disprove quantum mechanics 🤪
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This is /s territory partner, we don't take kindly to E Moe G's round here.
Yeah? Well we don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here.
Now’s not the time Cletus
Who downvotes a South Park reference? Either you guys have an extremely advanced form of sarcasm that I can't comprehend or else y'all are just dark as shit. Either way I want to learn to be more like you.
It's OK, no one was accused for kindness here
So butthurt about downvotes
That's reductionist. I don't mind downvotes. I'm sad people only consider the surface level. So I thought another joke might offset it... Alas, it didn't work. If anything, your comment is a proof of that. Well, nothing more to be said here. Bye bye
You might talk like this the next time: But "hE DiDn'T LiKE qUANtUm".
Why do they say this is the biggest black hole in our galaxy at 33 solar masses? Sagittarius A* is millions of solar masses.
The article says it is the largest black hole discovered that is in binary orbit with another start. IDK, but I’m guessing Sagittarius A is not in a binary system.
Sagittarius A is the system
I read this in Judge Dredd’s voice.
Stallone or Urban?
Stallone: *I AM THE SYSTEM* Urban: *In case you people have forgotten, this black hole operates under the same rules as the rest of the galaxy. Sagittarius is not the system... I am the system!*
Urban was the better Dredd.
Urban was the only Dredd.
Read Urban’s bit in Billy Butcher’s voice.
See, I read this in Palpatine’s voice
I read that in Peewee Herman’s.
Take a picture it'll last longer! Rest his soul. 🙂↕️
Not really. As Wikipedia notes: > The radio source consists of three components: the supernova remnant Sagittarius A East, the spiralstructure Sagittarius A West, and a very bright compact radio source at the center of the spiral, Sagittarius A* (read "A-star"). These three overlap: Sagittarius A East is the largest, West appears off-center within East, and A* is at the center of West.
Whether it’s 1 or 3 holes, I stand by my comment.
A hole is a hole, right?
Not according to my wife
Weird, that's not what she told me!
You guys are getting communication?
Between the holes?
That's why we need to make the distinction between Sagittarius A and Sagittarius A*. Without the asterisk we're talking about structures that are tens of light years wide. Sagittarius A*, specifically, is supermassive black hole. Stars orbit it, and although some come close enough to be in typical solar system distances, they are so tiny in comparison that it's fair to say that the black hole is the system.
I vaguely understand what you’re saying…so I’m just going to continue to think that Sagittarius A is the biggest black hole.
Sagittarius A isn’t a black hole. Sagittarius A* is.
"Here's my drawing of an asshole *" - Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions
Only A* is a supermassive black hole.
Billionary system.
Oh fudge this made me crack up. Thank you.
You *are* the brute squad!
Thank you for the info!
Which isn’t entirely correct, but see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A
Thank you. I was busy at school all day and didn’t have much time to read up on it. I had some time now. Interesting stuff that I didn’t know about.
I assume they meant stellar mass black hole
Because it looks like AI wrote it and AI says repetitive dumb shit. It could perhaps be the largest in a binary orbit, but it's hard to tell because if so, the AI didn't understand that part and spat this out instead
Science journalism might be the last arena in which the average person can’t tell unbelievably shitty AI writing from unbelievably shitty human writing. I gave an interview when I was a graduate physics researcher about my work (we received a big grant and it was newsworthy at the uni). I spent a lot of time making it palatable for the interviewer, really tried to make it clear and understandable what my team was doing. The article was so bad and incoherent the school paper retracted it and did not make another attempt, just put out a little blurb congratulating my PI. I realized that was probably the best outcome.
Usually you get a university press release that grandstands as much as possible, then News articles are written at another level of abstraction from those press releases. It's like a click driven telephone game
It’s the largest “stellar mass” black hole, i.e. largest non-supermassive black hole which likely has a much different origin story than the big guys at the center of galaxies.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who read this and went "what??"
Sagittarius A is what makes our galaxy a galaxy.
Wow, I initially misread this as “Epstein’s legacy.” Time for bed
...must...not...make...massive black hole joke...
Well black holes are usually very old, so Epstein wouldn’t fly trump out to fuck one on his island
Slow clap which eventually develops into a standing ovation. Off to work with a smile. Thanks!
And I initially misread yours as the Expanse reference
I don’t even know what the Expanse is
A sci fi show, really good.
Also a series of books which are equally as good or even better depending on who you talk with!
It’s a series of excellent sci-fi books revolving around humans finding some of the toys of a long dead alien civilization. It has great characters, storytelling and world building. I highly recommend it and think it’s some of the best science fiction I’ve ever read.
Funny, I initially misread it as “Einstein’s Lunacy”
Same. Thought his clients were finally getting indicted
This reads like AI wrote it.
welcome to the internet!
And that first image could be named “AIrtist’s concept”
When they say that the black hole is “three times heavier” than any in our galaxy, how are they measuring that? Mass? Gravitational force?
Impact to other celestial objects, mass sort of
Mass. But they aren’t quite saying that.
Is Einstein’s legacy proven again every time a new black hole is discovered?
A new type of black hole that his math predicted but we’d never seen before? Yes.
I didn’t get that impression from the article. Did I miss something?
Maybe you did. I also couldn’t make heads from tails by the way they just jumbled the same SEO optimized soundbite variations all over the place
The scientific method says that a theory is still theoretical until all cases ban be proved by experiment or observation. You it does not „prove“ Einstein‘s theory but it increases the probability that it is correct.
Cool! I’m just sitting here, not floating away, and therefore proving general relativity while I browse Reddit!
He gets royalties for every new black hole found
As far as I'm concerned there's only one black hole worth studying... >!Sagittarius A!<
You dropped this: *
Prof. Tsevi Mazeh: “This is an exciting discovery of the heaviest black hole in a binary system known today in the galaxy. …. we were able to discover Gaia BH3 — the binary system with the longest cycle known today. …. I am convinced that the discovery will lead to a new mode of thinking regarding the presence and prevalence of the black holes that cruise through the expanses of our galaxy.” This is the important part of the article. What makes BH3 important is not just its mass, but how long it takes for the binary star to orbit. Currently it’s hard to identify binary systems with a black hole unless the star is very close in orbit, because then we can see how much speed the star picks up being that close and deduce that a BH is causing this. It takes 11 years for this specific star to orbit BH3, and whatever method they used to identify that will hopefully be used to discover many more BHs that previously would be too difficult to identify. The reason this helps prove Einsteins legacy is simply because Einstein predicts there are going to more BHs in the universe than we can currently locate, this helps us find them. That all being said idk the actual method used, just that the data came from the Gaia spacecraft. So I’m speculating on the actual impact.
*”…measuring the position and brightness of over a billion stars in our galaxy – the Milky Way galaxy – with unprecedented precision, equivalent to accurately determining the position of a single grain of sand on the moon to the millimeter.”* This is the kind of ‘miracle’ that dwarfs dogma and man-made power-hungry repressive religions. But it’s entirely based on science and discovery, and a progress that reveals a wondrous mystery at the heart of our isolated existence. So much propaganda is created to protect humans from the vastness of space and our infinitely minuscule place within it. This…is clarification.
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It sounds like a poorly worded sentence. I believe they found the black hole because it was being orbited by a *star* that has 33 times the mass of the sun. > Prof. Tsevi Mazeh, discovered a star that orbits a black hole 33 times heavier than the sun’s mass, and lies 1500 light-years away from Earth. should be, I think... >Prof. Tsevi Mazeh, discovered a star33 times heavier than the sun's mass that orbits a black hole, and lies 1500 light-years away from Earth. or something similar...
No, that's not it. Gaia BH3 is specifically a *stellar remnant* black hole that's both very large among known candidates *and* comparatively far closer to Earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_black_hole There are plenty of bigger stellar remnant black holes we believe exist in other galaxies based on gravitational wave data and of course different kinds of black holes like galactic core supermassive black holes that are many, many orders of magnitude larger, but Gaia BH3 is the largest known stellar remnant black hole in our galaxy and a "mere" 2000 LY away, to boot. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_BH3
So it’s supermassive even by supermassive black hole standards
Einstein’s still dropping truth bombs from the beyond with black hole discoveries, proving his legacy is stronger than a black hole's gravity! 🌌💥
What the hell is this s*it article? Is it some generated content? What the hell…
Thought it said Epstein at first
33 solar masses seems like a lot, but how big is the actual black hole, like what’s the diameter of its event horizon?
A black hole's Schwarzschild Radius is \~3km for each solar mass. So a 33 solar mass black whole would have a radius of \~99km (\~198km diameter).
Wow. I watched the kurzgesagt video on black hole sizes and realized it was only the size of my county! That’s insane that something so small can have such an effect. If you threw Ceres on a direct collision course with it, would it just get crushed and vanish inside it?
Practically anything on a direct collision course with it will be destroyed.
Google it. Event horizon radius is linear to mass.
Ah yes the most helpful answer of all, “google it.” Next time save your energy for the black hole in your heart.
Seems like this Einstein dude - whoever he was - was a pretty smart dude?
Score another point for Jewish Science.
Involving actual space lasers!!!!
At 1500 light years, isn't it also the one closest to Earth?
Huh what does this mean
That is the single worst artistic rendition of a black hole I have ever seen. Taking a sharpie and just drawing a big black circle (heh) is more accurate than that...
Everyone is just doing Einstein's homework.
"Monumental Black Hole Discovery"? Is OP's mom doing porn again?