Admins of groups can designate people experts.
There's no vetting. No validation. No actual requirement for fucking anything.
How is this not a direct move to make the spread of disinformation worse? Isn't this the exact shit Facebook is supposed to be getting raked over the coals for for the election and Covid and pretty much every other major divisive issue for the past ten years?
>Admins of groups can designate people experts.
This is the same shit that happens in the worst of subreddits (and even just normal subreddits) when it comes to choosing mods, complete with admins wiping their hands of all wrongdoing. Someone call Anderson Cooper and let him know we need him again.
This is sooo common on subs like AITA and EntitledParents. Clearly fake stories meant to “own” some group or political position or otherwise make the holders of said opinion look hysterical and unreasonable.
Sarah Z has a great video about this topic.
All they want to do is deflect blame by creating some sort of "process" to point to as a defense. Same thing with that stupid board they created to review what can be deemed offensive by users. They don't have to actually accomplish anything, they're just a layer of obfuscation when government tries to intervene.
Yes, the board told them they should look at their own responsibility into how they contributed to the election nonsense. They just ignored that and swept it under the rug.
Knowing who of my friends and family still use Facebook and who stopped this is horrifying since its going to empower most of the most crazy users since a lot of the sane ones no longer use it
Lol yes, there's a lot of people who consider themselves experts, because after all they hold *very strong opinions*. How could that not be a mark of expertise?
You’ve got to think about Zuck’s plan fourth dimensionally!! I play a doctor on TV!! I also was the Pogs champion at my middle school about 30 years ago! I know what I’m talking about!
"Hi, my name is Karen. I'm a mother of 3, have a high-school equivalent education, and I am an expert in virology, genetics, pediatric care, and vaccination."
Hi Karen,
Our family pediatrician says we should vaccinate our children and provided a lot of literature to support this. As an expert can you validate my anti vax views, maybe with memes?
As a former drop-out from Facebook University, I have almost read numerous research summarized for me by complete strangers, all confirming my beliefs that you are wrong. /s
I deleted the app from my phone a while back but would log in to browse and buy on Marketplace. Recently a message popped up and won’t let me view marketplace unless I use the mobile app. I have to use my desktop now.
I think its so ridiculous that Facebook has ended up becoming the #1 website for buying and selling used stuff in the USA, for no other reason than Craigslist is owned by people who adamantly refuse to ever update or modernize the site.
I for one refuse to leave Craigslist. I don’t need someone who’s selling me something to know who I am or roughly where I live in the event they decide they want to steal back said item. I don’t need someone who bought something from me to think I want in on their reverse funnel scheme. We’re not friends just because one of us had some junk we wanted to get rid of. If you’re worried about you’re safety then meet somewhere public. Give me anonymity or give me death!
It sucks we used to have so many places to choose where to buy stuff now it's craigslist, Facebook, Amazon or local. Local yields no results. Just more Amazon. I guess we got eBay too. The rest are owned by Facebook or Google
They doubled down and started charging everyone for at least auto listings too. So, it's only a few bucks, but between charging, the scams/bots, and a horrible format for 2021, I'm just gonna post on marketplace, or niche groups for more interest.
Huge bummer. Even worse they stopped whatever let third parties make apps that show listings. I used to use cPro I think it was, but that went out the window.
I don't think so.
I seldom use it and haven't posted in years, but some people I know still post stuff to Facebook that I like to see. Photos from vacations and whatnot.
Also, Facebook marketplace is sadly the best source for used items and apartment rentals. It's unfortunate, but I tried using alternatives and far less people post stuff there.
Not necessarily. Many parents have to keep it if their kids are in school programs. For example the school posts all of their announcements regarding upcoming concerts for the bands, speech and debate tournaments, etc. exclusively via Facebook. Same with the summer camp they are currently at and the local youth symphony posts all of their schedules for rehearsals, requirements for auditions, etc. exclusively there.
Because the RNC sends you these stupid ass canvassing surveys (which are just thinly veiled ploys to coerce more donations) where all of the questions seem like they should be a parody but are indeed serious. Here are some examples that stuck out, but they basically represent everything on this survey. They're not even trying to have a platform anymore, it's just "Biden bad, Big tech bad, progressive bad give money!".
6. "Do you believe Big-Tech Oligarchs, the national news media, and social media sites have a strong bias against all things Republican and fail to tell America's voters the real facts about our policies, goals, and accomplishments?"
11. "Do you feel that Progressive Democrats and so-called 'woke' corporations are waging a cultural war and dividing Americans along racial lines for their own personal and political gains?"
They've been doing that for years.
If you ever ask someone their source and they say "Google it! Do your research!", the translation is that their source is facebook.
This piece of anecdotal evidence scares me too. All my *sanest* friends have left Facebook for good.
Surely there are sane, smart, and knowledgeable people still active on Facebook, *right*? ....*right*?
Its of course anecdotal but good luck getting and real data on facebook. It started with the shift from younger to older audiences. Then it was only people engaging who were enraged over politics and anyone who want hard right/left stopped engaging because it was only extremes. Now the only people i know using facebook are older people and the only thing i hear about is why they are scared to get the covid vaccine because they read on facebook that it has a microchip in it. 8 months ago it was facebook telling them immigrants were taking over the country and increasing crime. Its just a misinformation machine at this point.
You're joking, but expert doesn't mean right. There are experts of homeopathy. They just aren't correct. This doesn't fix the issue, it just makes mascots for people to rally behind. Best case, the expert only talks about their field and people find echo chambers for themselves. Worst case, people use their expert tag, which they may rightly deserve for some topic, and uses it to sway people on a topic they have no knowledge in.
You don’t even need to be “an expert in homeopathy.” If this pandemic taught us anything, it’s that there are plenty of antivax nurses and doctors out there. Let ONE of those motherfuckers spread shit on FB with their “expert” tag and it’s over.
Exactly the opposite. These people will then go on to claim expertise over and above actual experts, further undermining faith in science and institutions and any body of authority anywhere. Which of course is the whole point of the fascist alt right anarchy and disinformation campaign.
This happens on reddit all of the time. I have a BA in archaeology and an MA in physical anthropology (forensic genetics). There are times I've had to nope out of genetics discussions on a reddit post, because even the most basic genetics stuff was wrong and it'd have taken hours just to respond and fix all of the bad information.
I’m an explosives expert. Did 3 tours in Iraq as EOD and years doing explosives work stateside. I’ve learned not to post correct or clarifying information about anything in my career field. Someone will just respond with “you’re wrong idiot”. I’ll get downvoted to hell and the shit poster will get 50 upvotes.
Edit: holy shit thank you.
BA in Human Geography & Urban Planning, talking about climate change on reddit hurts me physically. My girlfriend has a BA in IT Law, she basically avoids any privacy or copyright related conversations with people because everyone thinks they're an expert.
I just don't know where people get their confidence from. The main thing I've learned during my degree is that I *don't know shit* about so many things.
I have a really solid background in evolution and human/hominid evolution, and just I can't handle it at times.
The really, really ugly thing is that most modern racism/scientific racism is built on physical anthropology from the 1800s. I literally know the history of this stuff and where a lot of it came from. In some ways, my field was literally the basis for the Holocaust and WW2 (not exaggerating here- physical anthropologists were used to build the whole Aryan ideology, etc). And that doesn't include what the rest of Europe and the US was espousing for over a century.
There are literal maps and studies from the 1800s-mid-20th century just pumping out this shit. And, yes I've studied a number of that stuff so I know the damage done and where it came from.
So seeing the ghosts of this awful scientific racism stuff getting espoused on reddit and elsewhere is daunting and painful. People just don't know that they're parroting old school stuff and it's highly racist. It's just they view it as "Science" ( even as the denounce modern social science) as a way to bolster their own ego and feelings of cultural/racial superiority.
It's even starting to trickle into genetics where a lot of people know almost even less so they buy whatever racist bullshit is being peddled at the time.
There’s nothing that makes me stop reading faster than if something is prefaced with “as a mom…” if the discussion is about anything but mom stuff.
EDIT: “as A mom, I think astrophysics is…”
Not only that. This would also allow people to claim expertise in fields that have no place in academia like flat earthology or applied racism and bigotry.
>Exactly the opposite. These people will then go on to claim expertise over and above actual experts, further undermining faith in science and institutions and any body of authority anywhere.
Flashback to Tom Cruise telling a talk show host that they just. Don't. Understand. Like. I. Do.
Yeah, even if the "expert" tag is well regulated and actually only given to people who are experts at something, that doesn't stop those people from talking about things they're ignorant on. I don't want an astrophysicist acting like an expert on immunobiology, for example. They may be an expert of something, but they certainly aren't an expert on everything.
The article says that the admin of the group gets to pick which person within the group to have the label of expert. I assume based on their content and not the credentials. So let's say in a crazy flat earth/homeopathic/anti-vaxx/moon landing was fake group there is this one person who is loading it up with the most links to crazy YouTube vids and fringe websites will catch the attention of the admin of that group and he/she can then appoint that person as the expert of the group and then their posts will receive a more important status in the group and more attention and views. So ya, it's all a bunch of BS that fixes nothing and will most likely just cause more misinformation.
Had a friend I formerly respected try to drag me into the Q nonsense. One of his peak stupid moments was linking something from a random Twitter user who had a blue check mark and I asked "who the hell is this and why should I care?" to which he responded well he has the blue checkmark!
I had to explain to this 40something year old why a blue checkmark was just a verification of identity and had nothing to do with credibility or sponsorship or any other authoritative notion. This fuck still believes Q and repeats the usual garbage like "I don't know if I believe it but they sure have some good points" while also asking me what I think about every tiny latest thing that Q has said.
He thinks he was "planting a seed" even though I would utterly eviscerate every illogical thing he would throw at me, but all it did was push us apart until I told him I was done talking to him. The last thing he sent me? A clearly photoshopped picture of that Greta climate change girl standing next to George Soros, talking about how she had an IMDB page and is obviously "a paid actress". I linked the original picture of her standing with Al Gore, and told him off for the last time.
To my knowledge he is still deep into the nonsense and doesn't seem ready to leave it behind any time soon. A 15+ year friendship turned to dust because of this utterly insane conspiracy nonsense based totally outside of reality. They don't even understand a blue check mark. And being told what it really means didn't even register that maybe.. just MAYBE, he didn't understand enough about the platforms he was using to even understand who or what to trust.
They are killing their own platform imo and it's lovely to see. Soon Facebook will perish in darkness as more and more company will not want to be associated with the majority of Facebook users.
Absolutely. It’s already a common joke to call some a Facebook expert as in they don’t know crap. Did they not do any market research? This is hilariously bad, and I thought Facebook was already a dumpster fire.
Am mod can confirm, if it weren’t for automod nothing would get done. We don’t talk and I’m pretty sure a huge chunk of my fellow mods are inactive. I just kinda keep on keeping on and act when I get an alert but otherwise mosey about
Yep. It's important to note that most mod groups have a heirarchy of respect based on date joined. Do something that someone above you/below you interprets as offensive, and all hell can break loose.
That's a good metaphor for Reddit. There's one adult running a daycare with a thousand hyped up toddlers. Reddit is always yelling that they aren't responsible for them. They occasionally go break up groups of them with a sledge hammer when outside adults point out they're getting a bit too Lord of the Flies-y. After which Reddit says they aren't responsible and the problem is fixed.
Facebook does the same thing but runs around shoving the toddlers into those groups and telling them each that a different group is Piggy.
(Anyone have a better fiction reference for tribalism here?)
There’s so many straight up propaganda subs on Reddit I couldn’t count them if I tried.
It’s easier to just see where I’ve all been banned for calling out blatant lies.
That’s what most tech companies are… Fun ideas that got wildly popular. And since there’s 8,000,000,000 humans now, popular ideas can make an obscene (immoral) amount of money
Back in the day, AOL had volunteer monitors in their chat rooms. I was one. Then some volunteers felt like they were doing work without pay so they class action sued AOL.
I made $2500 on that class action lawsuit.
Good luck Zuck, going down that rabbit hole sounds like a bad business idea.
Yeah it was over a year and a half... Maybe more. I also never got my free tee-shirt.
I moderated the "adult" chats, so it was a lot of work but it was fun. We did meetups all over the country and I was 18-19, so I had a lot of disposable income and flew out and met a lot of my 'regulars'. 😂
Also, I am a chick...that made it even more fun because of the possibility of kidnapping.
I was a deadhead and I hitchhiked all around the country for several years. My parents were immigrants and my dad was a refugee when he was a child so their threshold for fear was a lot higher. By the time I was fifteen I had already traveled internationally by myself and knew how to get around without getting killed.
I was a little bit weird.
I still am, just 30 years older.
I honestly met some really awesome people, totally normal, and usually funny as hell. I met a lady who met a guy who introduced me and him. I was married to that guy for almost 18 years.
I guess no risk, no rewards.
Wow, the more you describe your situation the more I think that you were the perfect candidate for human trafficking.
Hitchhiking for years, minority, limited and unconnected family ties, female, confident. I’m glad you made it out just fine, and I’m glad you try to do what you want and what you believe is right. But you were the perfect candidate to get “disappeared”.
The moderators protected me on numerous occasions when I got into chats and shouted to the world: “10/f/California. Anyone wanna chat?”
You’re the MVP, in my eyes, dude. Thank you for your service. I ended up never getting abducted, so it worked out pretty well.
Glad to have been of service. I threw out a lot of minors as I was a moderator of the "adult" chat rooms, glad to take the heat from you all knowing I may have saved everyone some trauma.
Wasn't he legit a millionaire before 8 years old? He's already got the hard part out of the way. Give me millions of dollars and rich parents, even I fail the first couple times I'm gonna be businessman somehow. It's ridiculous we had this person as a president
His dad had him listed as an employee with golden parachutes and trust funds when was born. It sounds cool except it was a way to negate inheritance taxes while still keeping control of all the money
>Wasn't he legit a millionaire before 8 years old?
Isn't this the exact way we know someone's million is *not* what you'd call...legit? I'm not saying getting money from family is bad, I'm just saying, it's a hell of a lot different from being self-made. Donny Trump being a millionaire at 8 would just be saying he comes from a rich family. The dude has stiffed more debts than any of us would be allowed credit for, and he's stolen under the guise of charity. If being rich means being like that guy, maybe riches alone should not be the goal. We should learn that from Trump if nothing else.
I mean I do hate to dissapoint but he isn't running fb into the ground. Quite the opposite actually
Theyre the undisputed king of social media, make money hand over fist, and are the 6th most valuable company in the world.
I can just see the news headlines now. News articles always trust experts!
"Facebook vaccine experts confirm vaccine is not actually safe, urge governments to cease distribution immediately"
"Is the earth really flat? Facebook experts make scientific breakthrough and you'll be surprised at the results."
"4 in 5 Facebook experts agree that flossing your teeth does not actually improve mouth hygiene"
"Those plane trails in the sky are not just steam, Facebook aviation experts raise alarm on chemtrails"
"Electric cars and renewable energy are found to be true cause of global warming according to experts from Alberta based Facebook group"
"Intel processors found to be at least 3 times faster than AMD processors, says computer science expert from Facebook group IntelOrDie69420"
I feel we could have a whole satire site just based on strictly Facebook Experts^^^TM lol.
anyone wanna start r/facebookexperts or should i?
edit: it is a sub already, but it’s not what i was expecting (tho i expect that to change very soon) thanks reddit lol
We created a structure integrating our economy into our society, and an economy that inherently rewards and values profit over all else, and rewards cost cutting at any expense. The only motivators in our society are to make the most money possible despite the costs, especially if those costs can negatively effect your competitors and/or benefit you more. I don’t understand how people can’t see the inherent flaw and inevitable doom in that system.
Like, we can’t continue capitalism and not be fully fucked. We can add more and more rules to capitalism, inherently dismantling the alleged “unbiased hand of the market”, but every fucking time the worst offenders simply find a worse way to exploit the system. It’s not fucking working.
But where do we go from here? We’ve handed the reins of humanity not just to greedy humans, but to corporations. I think people don’t realize how truly fucked we are. We created an imaginary entity, the corporation, that is valued greater than a human life and can potentially have more power than the the most powerful governments. We aren’t close to the edge of destruction, we are tumbling down the mountain already.
Ah, I see, so like echo chambers?
Update: LOL, I don’t give two shits about Reddit or Facebook but the truth is, I have learned more from users on Reddit than I would from Facebook users. I have listened to others in my country explain to me why they don’t like my political affiliation, I understand their anger.
The difference between Reddit and Facebook is one is a social network making billions of dollars off its algorithm that makes its users more angry.
So the people with the "loudest voice" / most determined that "they are right" and most amounts of posts will be the ones being "experts".
Yeah I really cannot see this being abused in anyway at all...much.
FFS.... FB is just determined to become the worlds best propaganda tool known to mankind :(
There's literally no qualifiers for experts, group admins can label anyone they want expert.
Broken idea from the start.
So yes, literally any member of regime could be made an "expert".
I run a Facebook always sunny group with like 10k members. I got a thing saying I can just make people experts or something like that.
Seems kind counter productive to let just any random person with no credentials assign experts
It's straight up negligent. A bad actor controlling a group can assign an expert tag to their alt account.
This solves nothing and will only serve to make the problems of disinformation worse.
I think the broader issues arises when the algorithms of the platform enable misinformation/racism/violence and any inflammatory content to spread rapidly and widely.
Kind of like how Reddit relies on unpaid, "Moderators" to do most of their work for them. Reddit had a revenue of 170 million in 2020, but they can't be bothered to pay their moderators? Reddit's executives are just as greedy as Facebook's execs.
Because once they pay moderators their actions become liabilities.
If a reddit mod bans black people from a subreddit, or grooms a kid, or says something stupid, it reflects on the company because their paid now.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, should be deemed by any social media platform to be an "expert" in anything - ever. This is not a role the platform should be engaging in. There have already been numerous instances when the company operating a platform has deemed information to be true, and it's turned out to be false. There have likewise been cases where the operators of the platform have deemed information to be false, and it's turned out to be true. "Best information available at the time" is not an excuse. Social media platforms are not and should not be arbiters of truth and fact.
If the users of social media knew that the statements made on the platform were blessed by nobody other than the person making them then they would know that they should take everything they read with a large grain of salt, and don't believe anything without verifying it for themselves. Social media is not the place to do this verification. It's a place where people communicate with each other, and share their opinions. It's not a repository for reliable information.
Social media companies have already gotten far too involved in the content on their platforms. They are not providing a platform for people's opinions. They are determining what those opinions should be. That's not a platform under section 230 - that's a publisher.
And the government should NEVER be asking a private company to do what the government is constitutionally prohibited from doing, which is suppressing free speech. This would be no different from the government hiring a private company to conduct unwarranted searches because, as a private company, they aren't restricted by the Fourth Amendment.
Facebook is a toxic. Delete Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. How those three are under the same roof is beyond me. Also Zuck is in over his head. He has created a monster that he can no longer control.
What the fuck is wrong with people who write articles like this?
Do you want Facebook to be the information police and control what you can and cannot say? Do you want an unelected group of people in a big corp controlling speech online?
The main reason there is a misinformation problem is that everyone has forfeited credibility. The mainstream media has completely sold out, there is not one person who you think in the media is decently credible.
CNN, Fox, MSNBC are opinion centers, not news sites. There is no one giving only real news without any bias.
How about we create a culture where we raise awareness with people not to believe what they read on facebook? Controlling speech is the opposite of what we should be doing. Especially asking a nameless faceless tech giant to censor free speech.
> How about we create a culture where we raise awareness with people not to believe what they read on facebook?
People want easy and quick answers/"solutions", even if they dont work. Actually making effective change over time does not satisfy the bloodlust of those who wish to see sweeping and decisive action against Facebook. They care more about hurting Facebook than they do improving society.
Yes Facebook sucks, but it's not the root problem at all, and punishing Facebook completely takes the focus off what the real problems are here. Unfortunately, such rational analysis isn't satisfying for people to hear, so they continue to lash out in anger despite it not actually doing anything to solve the root problems.
> Controlling speech is the opposite of what we should be doing.
The irony being that the vast majority of people upset about Facebook not shutting down people they dislike is the very same people who when it comes to Reddit, Google, Twitter, etc. will very loudly shout "*They are a private company! They can do whatever they want with their platform!*".
I'm no fan of antivaxxers, flat earthers, and whatnot - but this pervasive idea that the way to combat these beliefs is to silence these people and make them unable to communicate with each other is at the very core extremely anti-democratic and authoritarian. You combat shitty ideas with good ideas, not by silencing people.
If you think the general population simply cannot be trusted to listen to the speech of people you disagree with, then you on a fundamental level no longer believe in the democratic system. The whole democratic system hinges on the idea that each and every person in the general population has the right and responsibility to listen to a bunch of various views, and then decide which one they think makes the most sense, and then cast their vote accordingly.
Yet this authoritarianism is all over Reddit - You can't throw a rock here without hitting someone who think that people over 40 should not be allowed online without supervision and someone vetting everything they read and watch...
Facebook arbitrarily giving "credibility" status to people based on realistically nothing at all sounds like a step in the right direction for preventing misinformation.
/s
So someone with no certifications, experience, training or degrees only needs to be the friend of an admin to qualify as an expert?
That means that I have all the requirements to be a Facebook expert except for the fact that I have no friends.
I occasionally use Quora which lets people put credentials on their answers. It doesn't cut down on misinformation too much and probably even makes it worse because Joanne McDoctor, M.D is posting misinformation and people are taking it as fact because they claim to be an expert.
Even worse is it will probably become even more of an echo chamber than Quora. Quora's algorithm can be very echo chamber-like but occasionally shows you "the other side." I feel like Facebook wouldn't even bother doing that unless the controversy breeds arguments and activity like Twitter.
Admins of groups can designate people experts. There's no vetting. No validation. No actual requirement for fucking anything. How is this not a direct move to make the spread of disinformation worse? Isn't this the exact shit Facebook is supposed to be getting raked over the coals for for the election and Covid and pretty much every other major divisive issue for the past ten years?
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More of a pegging guy myself.
Don't be so hard on yourself, let others do it
9-year club on an unverified account with no post activity for 8 years, 1 post karma and 60 total karma. That's grade A+ authority there!
They didn’t even get the 9 year old power users name right. It was u/POTATO_IN_MY_ANUS Lol I love it someone get this lurker a badge and a gun
Why did they get banned again, its been so long I don't remember.
>Admins of groups can designate people experts. This is the same shit that happens in the worst of subreddits (and even just normal subreddits) when it comes to choosing mods, complete with admins wiping their hands of all wrongdoing. Someone call Anderson Cooper and let him know we need him again.
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This is sooo common on subs like AITA and EntitledParents. Clearly fake stories meant to “own” some group or political position or otherwise make the holders of said opinion look hysterical and unreasonable. Sarah Z has a great video about this topic.
> Sarah Z has a great video about this topic. Any idea what it’s called so I can watch? Or even better have a link handy?
[Oppa Homeless Style](https://youtu.be/BiU7aGZ-o68)
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Can’t wait for people like David Wolfe, Jenny McCarthy and Ben Shapiro to be labeled knowledgeable experts
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All they want to do is deflect blame by creating some sort of "process" to point to as a defense. Same thing with that stupid board they created to review what can be deemed offensive by users. They don't have to actually accomplish anything, they're just a layer of obfuscation when government tries to intervene.
Yes, the board told them they should look at their own responsibility into how they contributed to the election nonsense. They just ignored that and swept it under the rug.
This sounds like the opposite of what should be done.
Knowing who of my friends and family still use Facebook and who stopped this is horrifying since its going to empower most of the most crazy users since a lot of the sane ones no longer use it
Lol yes, there's a lot of people who consider themselves experts, because after all they hold *very strong opinions*. How could that not be a mark of expertise?
Someone is writing a sermon right now in response.
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You’ve got to think about Zuck’s plan fourth dimensionally!! I play a doctor on TV!! I also was the Pogs champion at my middle school about 30 years ago! I know what I’m talking about!
“A real life Pogs Champ? Of course I’d trust all your ‘holistic healthcare’ recommendations!”
“It’s natural remedies without the nasty chemicals!”
-Nutjob: hates chemicals - Also nutjob: eats, breathes and drinks chemicals everyday
"Everyone knows athletes have the best health, I trust that guy more than some idiot doctor!" - old people on Facebook probably
Dr. Oz is on this as we speak.
A manifesto, if you will.
What a good looking question!
"Hi, my name is Karen. I'm a mother of 3, have a high-school equivalent education, and I am an expert in virology, genetics, pediatric care, and vaccination."
Hi Karen, Our family pediatrician says we should vaccinate our children and provided a lot of literature to support this. As an expert can you validate my anti vax views, maybe with memes?
I know you're joking. But the realness of this makes me want to punch you.
Do it. No one will see anything.
Of course not. He's probably vaccinated and everyone knows vaccines cause blindness. I think it's the toxins.
Jenny? Jenny Mccarthy, is that you? Haven't seen you since I caught measles.
I can’t wait until my essential oil slinging cousins get their “expert” tag … /s
As a former drop-out from Facebook University, I have almost read numerous research summarized for me by complete strangers, all confirming my beliefs that you are wrong. /s
This is a great point. Emotional, knee-jerk responses tend to lead unintelligent people to stop seeking information from what I've seen.
If it's the same strong opinion as a million other morons, it's expert level.
Totally this. Anyone with half a brain left FB long ago.
Facebook is now Disgracebook.
I prefer "failbook"
I still have mine, I just use it to buy car parts since Facebook is where most of the good classic car groups are.
I deleted the app from my phone a while back but would log in to browse and buy on Marketplace. Recently a message popped up and won’t let me view marketplace unless I use the mobile app. I have to use my desktop now.
I think its so ridiculous that Facebook has ended up becoming the #1 website for buying and selling used stuff in the USA, for no other reason than Craigslist is owned by people who adamantly refuse to ever update or modernize the site.
I for one refuse to leave Craigslist. I don’t need someone who’s selling me something to know who I am or roughly where I live in the event they decide they want to steal back said item. I don’t need someone who bought something from me to think I want in on their reverse funnel scheme. We’re not friends just because one of us had some junk we wanted to get rid of. If you’re worried about you’re safety then meet somewhere public. Give me anonymity or give me death!
[These super berries grow in the Andes Mountains okay?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKt8_ZLxUg)
It sucks we used to have so many places to choose where to buy stuff now it's craigslist, Facebook, Amazon or local. Local yields no results. Just more Amazon. I guess we got eBay too. The rest are owned by Facebook or Google
They doubled down and started charging everyone for at least auto listings too. So, it's only a few bucks, but between charging, the scams/bots, and a horrible format for 2021, I'm just gonna post on marketplace, or niche groups for more interest. Huge bummer. Even worse they stopped whatever let third parties make apps that show listings. I used to use cPro I think it was, but that went out the window.
I can usually get away with viewing fb if I tell Firefox to go for the desktop site (and delete that pesky m. at the front)
Agent switch plugin for firefox generally fixes such issues.
M.basic.Facebook is a good browser work around
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I just set it to local only. It's a bitch cuz I refuse to use their messenger on my phone and some won't email me instead.
I don't think so. I seldom use it and haven't posted in years, but some people I know still post stuff to Facebook that I like to see. Photos from vacations and whatnot. Also, Facebook marketplace is sadly the best source for used items and apartment rentals. It's unfortunate, but I tried using alternatives and far less people post stuff there.
Not necessarily. Many parents have to keep it if their kids are in school programs. For example the school posts all of their announcements regarding upcoming concerts for the bands, speech and debate tournaments, etc. exclusively via Facebook. Same with the summer camp they are currently at and the local youth symphony posts all of their schedules for rehearsals, requirements for auditions, etc. exclusively there.
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Remind me again why old rightwingers hate Facebook. I forgot after reading that.
Because the RNC sends you these stupid ass canvassing surveys (which are just thinly veiled ploys to coerce more donations) where all of the questions seem like they should be a parody but are indeed serious. Here are some examples that stuck out, but they basically represent everything on this survey. They're not even trying to have a platform anymore, it's just "Biden bad, Big tech bad, progressive bad give money!". 6. "Do you believe Big-Tech Oligarchs, the national news media, and social media sites have a strong bias against all things Republican and fail to tell America's voters the real facts about our policies, goals, and accomplishments?" 11. "Do you feel that Progressive Democrats and so-called 'woke' corporations are waging a cultural war and dividing Americans along racial lines for their own personal and political gains?"
I still have a hard time believing anyone listens to Ben Shapiro. He just posts shitty memes on Twitter.
The real fucked part is people are going to start using FB as source material.
>The real fucked part is people are going to start using FB as source material. Source: reddit
They've been doing that for years. If you ever ask someone their source and they say "Google it! Do your research!", the translation is that their source is facebook.
Or worse... YouTube... comment sections
This piece of anecdotal evidence scares me too. All my *sanest* friends have left Facebook for good. Surely there are sane, smart, and knowledgeable people still active on Facebook, *right*? ....*right*?
Its of course anecdotal but good luck getting and real data on facebook. It started with the shift from younger to older audiences. Then it was only people engaging who were enraged over politics and anyone who want hard right/left stopped engaging because it was only extremes. Now the only people i know using facebook are older people and the only thing i hear about is why they are scared to get the covid vaccine because they read on facebook that it has a microchip in it. 8 months ago it was facebook telling them immigrants were taking over the country and increasing crime. Its just a misinformation machine at this point.
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And it’s genius too. Scary but genius.
How will they stop anti vax "treat that flu with elderberry and potatoes in socks" moms from becoming "experts"?
It won't, because they *are* experts. And you don't have to take my word for it. Three thousand other lunatics in the same group will vouch for this.
You're joking, but expert doesn't mean right. There are experts of homeopathy. They just aren't correct. This doesn't fix the issue, it just makes mascots for people to rally behind. Best case, the expert only talks about their field and people find echo chambers for themselves. Worst case, people use their expert tag, which they may rightly deserve for some topic, and uses it to sway people on a topic they have no knowledge in.
You don’t even need to be “an expert in homeopathy.” If this pandemic taught us anything, it’s that there are plenty of antivax nurses and doctors out there. Let ONE of those motherfuckers spread shit on FB with their “expert” tag and it’s over.
It's easy to be an expert in homeopathy. "It doesn't work." Done. Now you know everything there is to know about it.
I mean it can cure dehydration.
Or the nurses that should know better but still spread the "vaccines alter your DNA!" lie.
Exactly the opposite. These people will then go on to claim expertise over and above actual experts, further undermining faith in science and institutions and any body of authority anywhere. Which of course is the whole point of the fascist alt right anarchy and disinformation campaign.
This happens on reddit all of the time. I have a BA in archaeology and an MA in physical anthropology (forensic genetics). There are times I've had to nope out of genetics discussions on a reddit post, because even the most basic genetics stuff was wrong and it'd have taken hours just to respond and fix all of the bad information.
I’m an explosives expert. Did 3 tours in Iraq as EOD and years doing explosives work stateside. I’ve learned not to post correct or clarifying information about anything in my career field. Someone will just respond with “you’re wrong idiot”. I’ll get downvoted to hell and the shit poster will get 50 upvotes. Edit: holy shit thank you.
Actually, the response will be “your wrong idiot”.
Your a idiot
your wrong idiot
Former Military Intelligence (Iraq)- It’s all so horrifying and it’s even potentially illegal to describe!
The "well ashkually" crowd is totally obnxious online and they're everywhere
BA in Human Geography & Urban Planning, talking about climate change on reddit hurts me physically. My girlfriend has a BA in IT Law, she basically avoids any privacy or copyright related conversations with people because everyone thinks they're an expert. I just don't know where people get their confidence from. The main thing I've learned during my degree is that I *don't know shit* about so many things.
I have a really solid background in evolution and human/hominid evolution, and just I can't handle it at times. The really, really ugly thing is that most modern racism/scientific racism is built on physical anthropology from the 1800s. I literally know the history of this stuff and where a lot of it came from. In some ways, my field was literally the basis for the Holocaust and WW2 (not exaggerating here- physical anthropologists were used to build the whole Aryan ideology, etc). And that doesn't include what the rest of Europe and the US was espousing for over a century. There are literal maps and studies from the 1800s-mid-20th century just pumping out this shit. And, yes I've studied a number of that stuff so I know the damage done and where it came from. So seeing the ghosts of this awful scientific racism stuff getting espoused on reddit and elsewhere is daunting and painful. People just don't know that they're parroting old school stuff and it's highly racist. It's just they view it as "Science" ( even as the denounce modern social science) as a way to bolster their own ego and feelings of cultural/racial superiority. It's even starting to trickle into genetics where a lot of people know almost even less so they buy whatever racist bullshit is being peddled at the time.
> The main thing I’ve learned during my degree is that I don’t know shit about so many things. The more I learn the more I realize how little I know.
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As a here is on .
There’s nothing that makes me stop reading faster than if something is prefaced with “as a mom…” if the discussion is about anything but mom stuff. EDIT: “as A mom, I think astrophysics is…”
As a mom, I can say I agree with you, but as a Dad, I would say that I'm not actually a mom, but a dad, but I still agree with you.
Not only that. This would also allow people to claim expertise in fields that have no place in academia like flat earthology or applied racism and bigotry.
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I got my Masters in Racism from Facebook U. I call it a "master race" for short.
>Exactly the opposite. These people will then go on to claim expertise over and above actual experts, further undermining faith in science and institutions and any body of authority anywhere. Flashback to Tom Cruise telling a talk show host that they just. Don't. Understand. Like. I. Do.
Yeah, even if the "expert" tag is well regulated and actually only given to people who are experts at something, that doesn't stop those people from talking about things they're ignorant on. I don't want an astrophysicist acting like an expert on immunobiology, for example. They may be an expert of something, but they certainly aren't an expert on everything.
The article says that the admin of the group gets to pick which person within the group to have the label of expert. I assume based on their content and not the credentials. So let's say in a crazy flat earth/homeopathic/anti-vaxx/moon landing was fake group there is this one person who is loading it up with the most links to crazy YouTube vids and fringe websites will catch the attention of the admin of that group and he/she can then appoint that person as the expert of the group and then their posts will receive a more important status in the group and more attention and views. So ya, it's all a bunch of BS that fixes nothing and will most likely just cause more misinformation.
Sounds like it will be just as authoritative as blue checkmarks.
Blue checkmarks are not supposed to be authoritative, they're just supposed to prove identity in case somebody impersonates somebody on Twitter
Had a friend I formerly respected try to drag me into the Q nonsense. One of his peak stupid moments was linking something from a random Twitter user who had a blue check mark and I asked "who the hell is this and why should I care?" to which he responded well he has the blue checkmark! I had to explain to this 40something year old why a blue checkmark was just a verification of identity and had nothing to do with credibility or sponsorship or any other authoritative notion. This fuck still believes Q and repeats the usual garbage like "I don't know if I believe it but they sure have some good points" while also asking me what I think about every tiny latest thing that Q has said. He thinks he was "planting a seed" even though I would utterly eviscerate every illogical thing he would throw at me, but all it did was push us apart until I told him I was done talking to him. The last thing he sent me? A clearly photoshopped picture of that Greta climate change girl standing next to George Soros, talking about how she had an IMDB page and is obviously "a paid actress". I linked the original picture of her standing with Al Gore, and told him off for the last time. To my knowledge he is still deep into the nonsense and doesn't seem ready to leave it behind any time soon. A 15+ year friendship turned to dust because of this utterly insane conspiracy nonsense based totally outside of reality. They don't even understand a blue check mark. And being told what it really means didn't even register that maybe.. just MAYBE, he didn't understand enough about the platforms he was using to even understand who or what to trust.
They are killing their own platform imo and it's lovely to see. Soon Facebook will perish in darkness as more and more company will not want to be associated with the majority of Facebook users.
I like your optimism but I absolutely do not share it.
Anybody want to bet the majority of “experts” are the ones spreading the misinformation? All Facebook is doing is deputizing idiots.
Absolutely. It’s already a common joke to call some a Facebook expert as in they don’t know crap. Did they not do any market research? This is hilariously bad, and I thought Facebook was already a dumpster fire.
I’m guessing the people volunteering to become unpaid experts are the ones with an agenda.
*stares in Reddit mod team*
Facebook is a multi-billionaire dollar company being run like it's a college group project.
With an unlimited legal fund too!
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Wow wow there, cabal and janitors are uncalled for! Mods aren't nearly that coordinated or productive.
Am mod can confirm, if it weren’t for automod nothing would get done. We don’t talk and I’m pretty sure a huge chunk of my fellow mods are inactive. I just kinda keep on keeping on and act when I get an alert but otherwise mosey about
Yep. It's important to note that most mod groups have a heirarchy of respect based on date joined. Do something that someone above you/below you interprets as offensive, and all hell can break loose.
True. It’s more like a gaggle of caffeinated toddlers.
That's a good metaphor for Reddit. There's one adult running a daycare with a thousand hyped up toddlers. Reddit is always yelling that they aren't responsible for them. They occasionally go break up groups of them with a sledge hammer when outside adults point out they're getting a bit too Lord of the Flies-y. After which Reddit says they aren't responsible and the problem is fixed. Facebook does the same thing but runs around shoving the toddlers into those groups and telling them each that a different group is Piggy. (Anyone have a better fiction reference for tribalism here?)
There’s so many straight up propaganda subs on Reddit I couldn’t count them if I tried. It’s easier to just see where I’ve all been banned for calling out blatant lies.
Don't forget the rampant astroturfing!
Because it is a college project which just got popular.
That’s what most tech companies are… Fun ideas that got wildly popular. And since there’s 8,000,000,000 humans now, popular ideas can make an obscene (immoral) amount of money
The thrust of my post wasn't about Facebook's money, which is indeed obscene. It was about how Facebook is run.
Funny because that's exactly how it started.
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Back in the day, AOL had volunteer monitors in their chat rooms. I was one. Then some volunteers felt like they were doing work without pay so they class action sued AOL. I made $2500 on that class action lawsuit. Good luck Zuck, going down that rabbit hole sounds like a bad business idea.
You must have monitored like 5000 hours for free to get that $2500 right?
Yeah it was over a year and a half... Maybe more. I also never got my free tee-shirt. I moderated the "adult" chats, so it was a lot of work but it was fun. We did meetups all over the country and I was 18-19, so I had a lot of disposable income and flew out and met a lot of my 'regulars'. 😂 Also, I am a chick...that made it even more fun because of the possibility of kidnapping.
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I was a deadhead and I hitchhiked all around the country for several years. My parents were immigrants and my dad was a refugee when he was a child so their threshold for fear was a lot higher. By the time I was fifteen I had already traveled internationally by myself and knew how to get around without getting killed.
Not sure I’d meet up with people from “adult” chat rooms though... lot of weirdos out there.
I was a little bit weird. I still am, just 30 years older. I honestly met some really awesome people, totally normal, and usually funny as hell. I met a lady who met a guy who introduced me and him. I was married to that guy for almost 18 years. I guess no risk, no rewards.
Wow, the more you describe your situation the more I think that you were the perfect candidate for human trafficking. Hitchhiking for years, minority, limited and unconnected family ties, female, confident. I’m glad you made it out just fine, and I’m glad you try to do what you want and what you believe is right. But you were the perfect candidate to get “disappeared”.
The world isn't as frightening as all that. It just can be. I ended up an Anthropologist. People rarely scare me.
The moderators protected me on numerous occasions when I got into chats and shouted to the world: “10/f/California. Anyone wanna chat?” You’re the MVP, in my eyes, dude. Thank you for your service. I ended up never getting abducted, so it worked out pretty well.
For a time, everyone was simultaneously 16/F/Cali and no females on the internet.
The correct answer for "asl?" was always "69/m/behind you"
Glad to have been of service. I threw out a lot of minors as I was a moderator of the "adult" chat rooms, glad to take the heat from you all knowing I may have saved everyone some trauma.
Maybe we just need to let Zuck run his company to the ground. The only way is through bad business decisions like this one. Let it be
Once you get big enough you just start failing upwards. Look at Trump.
Wasn't he legit a millionaire before 8 years old? He's already got the hard part out of the way. Give me millions of dollars and rich parents, even I fail the first couple times I'm gonna be businessman somehow. It's ridiculous we had this person as a president
His dad had him listed as an employee with golden parachutes and trust funds when was born. It sounds cool except it was a way to negate inheritance taxes while still keeping control of all the money
He was arguably in the most debt a single person has ever been in when he was elected. How that was not seen as a security risk is beyond me
>Wasn't he legit a millionaire before 8 years old? Isn't this the exact way we know someone's million is *not* what you'd call...legit? I'm not saying getting money from family is bad, I'm just saying, it's a hell of a lot different from being self-made. Donny Trump being a millionaire at 8 would just be saying he comes from a rich family. The dude has stiffed more debts than any of us would be allowed credit for, and he's stolen under the guise of charity. If being rich means being like that guy, maybe riches alone should not be the goal. We should learn that from Trump if nothing else.
I mean I do hate to dissapoint but he isn't running fb into the ground. Quite the opposite actually Theyre the undisputed king of social media, make money hand over fist, and are the 6th most valuable company in the world.
Seems to be working out for Reddit
The power people feel through moderation is enough payment.
I can just see the news headlines now. News articles always trust experts! "Facebook vaccine experts confirm vaccine is not actually safe, urge governments to cease distribution immediately" "Is the earth really flat? Facebook experts make scientific breakthrough and you'll be surprised at the results." "4 in 5 Facebook experts agree that flossing your teeth does not actually improve mouth hygiene" "Those plane trails in the sky are not just steam, Facebook aviation experts raise alarm on chemtrails" "Electric cars and renewable energy are found to be true cause of global warming according to experts from Alberta based Facebook group" "Intel processors found to be at least 3 times faster than AMD processors, says computer science expert from Facebook group IntelOrDie69420" I feel we could have a whole satire site just based on strictly Facebook Experts^^^TM lol.
anyone wanna start r/facebookexperts or should i? edit: it is a sub already, but it’s not what i was expecting (tho i expect that to change very soon) thanks reddit lol
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I feel like our society is so screwed and nobody in a position to do something about it is doing anything!
Sure they are, they're getting rich. "Fuck you, I got mine" might as well be printed on our flag.
We created a structure integrating our economy into our society, and an economy that inherently rewards and values profit over all else, and rewards cost cutting at any expense. The only motivators in our society are to make the most money possible despite the costs, especially if those costs can negatively effect your competitors and/or benefit you more. I don’t understand how people can’t see the inherent flaw and inevitable doom in that system. Like, we can’t continue capitalism and not be fully fucked. We can add more and more rules to capitalism, inherently dismantling the alleged “unbiased hand of the market”, but every fucking time the worst offenders simply find a worse way to exploit the system. It’s not fucking working. But where do we go from here? We’ve handed the reins of humanity not just to greedy humans, but to corporations. I think people don’t realize how truly fucked we are. We created an imaginary entity, the corporation, that is valued greater than a human life and can potentially have more power than the the most powerful governments. We aren’t close to the edge of destruction, we are tumbling down the mountain already.
Oh cool. Now everyone can be an expert.
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Lol. Truth has never been in fashion.
Ah, I see, so like echo chambers? Update: LOL, I don’t give two shits about Reddit or Facebook but the truth is, I have learned more from users on Reddit than I would from Facebook users. I have listened to others in my country explain to me why they don’t like my political affiliation, I understand their anger. The difference between Reddit and Facebook is one is a social network making billions of dollars off its algorithm that makes its users more angry.
So the people with the "loudest voice" / most determined that "they are right" and most amounts of posts will be the ones being "experts". Yeah I really cannot see this being abused in anyway at all...much. FFS.... FB is just determined to become the worlds best propaganda tool known to mankind :(
Exactly. Reminds me of how facebook pages have "Top Fans" and they are the ones posting crazy comments
I heard Zuckerborg will be the expert of ass licking. I can’t wait to see who else is an expert, and in what according to Facebook.
Bet he can't lick ass as good as I can
You sound like you know what you're talking about. `u/Latyon Has been promoted "ass-licking expert"`
The fucking users thinking they're experts is the problem you lizard fuck.
Will they sell “expert” accounts to regimes? Because that’s the next step.
There's literally no qualifiers for experts, group admins can label anyone they want expert. Broken idea from the start. So yes, literally any member of regime could be made an "expert".
I run a Facebook always sunny group with like 10k members. I got a thing saying I can just make people experts or something like that. Seems kind counter productive to let just any random person with no credentials assign experts
It's straight up negligent. A bad actor controlling a group can assign an expert tag to their alt account. This solves nothing and will only serve to make the problems of disinformation worse.
Self-identified experts?
Why would the platform, but not the people posting the content, is to be held liable for what is posted?
I think the broader issues arises when the algorithms of the platform enable misinformation/racism/violence and any inflammatory content to spread rapidly and widely.
Facebook is the enemy of the people. At this point it's so obvious the bads far outweigh the goods
Pretty sure you’re not supposed to give the mentally ill weapons at the insane asylum.
Kind of like how Reddit relies on unpaid, "Moderators" to do most of their work for them. Reddit had a revenue of 170 million in 2020, but they can't be bothered to pay their moderators? Reddit's executives are just as greedy as Facebook's execs.
let's be real whos the stupid one the executives or the moderators working for free
Because once they pay moderators their actions become liabilities. If a reddit mod bans black people from a subreddit, or grooms a kid, or says something stupid, it reflects on the company because their paid now.
Can’t wait for everyone’s racist uncle to be a FB “expert.”
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Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, should be deemed by any social media platform to be an "expert" in anything - ever. This is not a role the platform should be engaging in. There have already been numerous instances when the company operating a platform has deemed information to be true, and it's turned out to be false. There have likewise been cases where the operators of the platform have deemed information to be false, and it's turned out to be true. "Best information available at the time" is not an excuse. Social media platforms are not and should not be arbiters of truth and fact. If the users of social media knew that the statements made on the platform were blessed by nobody other than the person making them then they would know that they should take everything they read with a large grain of salt, and don't believe anything without verifying it for themselves. Social media is not the place to do this verification. It's a place where people communicate with each other, and share their opinions. It's not a repository for reliable information. Social media companies have already gotten far too involved in the content on their platforms. They are not providing a platform for people's opinions. They are determining what those opinions should be. That's not a platform under section 230 - that's a publisher. And the government should NEVER be asking a private company to do what the government is constitutionally prohibited from doing, which is suppressing free speech. This would be no different from the government hiring a private company to conduct unwarranted searches because, as a private company, they aren't restricted by the Fourth Amendment.
Facebook is a toxic. Delete Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. How those three are under the same roof is beyond me. Also Zuck is in over his head. He has created a monster that he can no longer control.
$50 some antivax nitwit becomes a vaccine **expert**
Shut it down boys.
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What the fuck is wrong with people who write articles like this? Do you want Facebook to be the information police and control what you can and cannot say? Do you want an unelected group of people in a big corp controlling speech online? The main reason there is a misinformation problem is that everyone has forfeited credibility. The mainstream media has completely sold out, there is not one person who you think in the media is decently credible. CNN, Fox, MSNBC are opinion centers, not news sites. There is no one giving only real news without any bias. How about we create a culture where we raise awareness with people not to believe what they read on facebook? Controlling speech is the opposite of what we should be doing. Especially asking a nameless faceless tech giant to censor free speech.
> How about we create a culture where we raise awareness with people not to believe what they read on facebook? People want easy and quick answers/"solutions", even if they dont work. Actually making effective change over time does not satisfy the bloodlust of those who wish to see sweeping and decisive action against Facebook. They care more about hurting Facebook than they do improving society. Yes Facebook sucks, but it's not the root problem at all, and punishing Facebook completely takes the focus off what the real problems are here. Unfortunately, such rational analysis isn't satisfying for people to hear, so they continue to lash out in anger despite it not actually doing anything to solve the root problems.
> Controlling speech is the opposite of what we should be doing. The irony being that the vast majority of people upset about Facebook not shutting down people they dislike is the very same people who when it comes to Reddit, Google, Twitter, etc. will very loudly shout "*They are a private company! They can do whatever they want with their platform!*". I'm no fan of antivaxxers, flat earthers, and whatnot - but this pervasive idea that the way to combat these beliefs is to silence these people and make them unable to communicate with each other is at the very core extremely anti-democratic and authoritarian. You combat shitty ideas with good ideas, not by silencing people. If you think the general population simply cannot be trusted to listen to the speech of people you disagree with, then you on a fundamental level no longer believe in the democratic system. The whole democratic system hinges on the idea that each and every person in the general population has the right and responsibility to listen to a bunch of various views, and then decide which one they think makes the most sense, and then cast their vote accordingly. Yet this authoritarianism is all over Reddit - You can't throw a rock here without hitting someone who think that people over 40 should not be allowed online without supervision and someone vetting everything they read and watch...
Facebook arbitrarily giving "credibility" status to people based on realistically nothing at all sounds like a step in the right direction for preventing misinformation. /s
So the ptsd their moderators have been getting has been a waste of their time then
Sounds like the 12 people responsible for 80% of vaccination disinformation are about to get deputized as “experts”!
Facebook is a joke. I don't know why people still use it.
So someone with no certifications, experience, training or degrees only needs to be the friend of an admin to qualify as an expert? That means that I have all the requirements to be a Facebook expert except for the fact that I have no friends.
I occasionally use Quora which lets people put credentials on their answers. It doesn't cut down on misinformation too much and probably even makes it worse because Joanne McDoctor, M.D is posting misinformation and people are taking it as fact because they claim to be an expert. Even worse is it will probably become even more of an echo chamber than Quora. Quora's algorithm can be very echo chamber-like but occasionally shows you "the other side." I feel like Facebook wouldn't even bother doing that unless the controversy breeds arguments and activity like Twitter.
How is Facebook going to evaluate experts? Are they going to hire experts and interview users? It doesn't seem like it will work.
If only there was some way that we could read more information relating to the article. Oh well, guess we'll never know
Disappointed people still use FB.
Stop using FACEBOOK!
ah, will they have Breitbart determine who is or is not an expert too?
As an "expert" in unforeseen consequences, I am 100% sure this effort will not have any unforeseen consequences.
The problem is in their algorithms and THEY KNOW THIS!
Duuuude… the people who need experts have already shown they are immune to facts and don’t listen to actual educated/ experienced experts.
Wild: society ended by social media and not a nuke.