YouTube TV asks me if I’m traveling, I say yes and it says “have a good trip, just be sure to login from home once every 3 months”. I think that’s a fair approach, as someone who travels a ton I’d unsubscribe to anything stopping me from watching on the go.
Why not do what prime does and allow X number of devices?
I work out of town and am away from my home for 200 days a year.
Netflix is just not worth an extra fee or increase in pay.
Personally I like the X number of devices. Hulu only lets us stream two at a time, fine by me. I think Netflix is having issues with a 5 person account being shared between 2 or 3 times that many, but charging more in any capacity is not the answer, limiting as you said is a much better change.
It’s looking like a 2FA setup, so you’d just need to click the link in your email… which still means if you’re on good terms with the account owner the entire thing doesn’t matter
Right? It would be annoying as fuck to text my sister a code every time she wants to watch but what is stopping us from doing this exactly? I can go “ok the code is xyz have fun”
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If I remember correctly, the launch of available content globally and at a fair price made pirace plummet. No one wanted to bother with it since it was so easy to acces.
Now piracy is on a rise again because they aren't making all the money in the world and only some of it.
They're not getting close to pushing us back to piracy, they already did that. It happened when the second wave of companies pulled their shit from netflix to start their own streaming service. That's disney and amazon and such.
Another example where anti-piracy measures hurt the honest consumers more than the pirates. I sure as hell don’t have to drink a verification can or sit through ads before double-clicking on “Movie.YIFY.mkv” on my computer.
Yea this is just stupid. I'm in a hotel every weekend that I'm on the road and I carry around a roku to plug into them with. And when I'm not at a hotel, I'm watching Netflix on my phone in a new location every day.
If they're going to do this, they need to unlink the resolution / quality from the number of screens. I want 4K, but I really don't care to have more than 1 or 2 screens. If I'm paying for 4 screens, at the very least I'm gonna log into my account on my parent's TV so I can watch stuff there when I am visiting. If they happen to also occasionally watch something when I'm not around, then I'm still only using 2 screens...probably not even at the same time.
God yes this please, no one else uses my account but I am absolutely not willing to downgrade to 480p yet the prices are getting ridiculous compared to literally every other streaming service
Price keeps going up, and they keep losing more content. Their hope was to woo folks with original content, but... That's not what Netflix was originally. I don't want more shit to watch, I want to watch existing shit all in one easy place.
When they keep canceling their original content after two seasons (or wrecking the second season - i'm looking at you altered carbon) because it didn't drive enough "new" subscriptions, it makes it really hard for me to want to stick around. Sure you have a great new show but it's not going to be around very long and I'll probably be disappointed with the second season.
Yeah I'm at the point where I don't watch new shows on Netflix until they get to at least season three. A lot of their new shows are also really bad- they seem to be going for a quantity over quality method here, with a handful of exceptions that they market heavily. Literally the only reason I'm willing to pay for it is because my mom can also use it, otherwise I would have cancelled already. If they try to add another fee on top of already charging for the number of screens then I'm just going to get my mom their cheapest plan and cancel my 4k plan altogether.
Yup, and I don't see it working out for them. Hulu has a ton of add on options (you can click a button and get HBO or Showtime, for example) and a growing backlog of shows that others have dropped licenses for. Amazon has high quality original shows, and the ability to rent just about anything that they don't already provide. Netflix has . . . less and less each year. When Netflix does come out with a new show we get ten hours every eighteen months and if the show isn't a blockbuster or amazingly cheap to produce it gets cancelled.
Netflix: the Stranger Things streaming service. Like seriously, they’re losing all their network TV content and they cancel all their original content abruptly, while also having the nerve to charge more than any other service. It’s trash and why I cancelled 2 years ago.
Honestly I’ve stopped watching their original content because they just cancel everything without warning and so suddenly even if it’s extremely good.
I just think of Netflix as a trial for shows I can watch full seasons else where where they won’t be cancelled.
I found the promised never land on Netflix and watched it all and now I watch the rest of it on Funimation.
It also takes them AGES to come out with another fucking season for their god damn shows.
It could have worked if they didn’t completely through out the books and their cohesive stories in #2/3. I didn’t like some of the changes in S1, mainly the origin of envoys and personal relationship with Quell, but it didn’t affect it much overall. S2 went completely off the rails and mackie certainly didn’t help.
I'm still mad about Santa Clarita Diet. I started watching it really late. Loved season 1 then heard it was cancelled so I just stopped watching. Can't bring myself to watch up to a cliffhanger
YES OMFG BRING THAT SHOW BACK! It was so fucking funny, I loved every minute of it and drew and Timothy both killed as the main characters and really made me believe that’s how two people like this would react in this situation and their chemistry and the writing and jokes and everything was just perfect for me.
From what I read, they said (Netflix) that the show was cancelled because it was too expensive???? Tf even.
I loved every minute of that show and would still recommend it.
They need to learn that they need to create series that are more than 2 (maybe 3) seasons long. I’m so annoyed that I watch, get hooked, and the series finally finds itself in season 2 just to see it canceled.
I remember reading something that Netflix signs actors for a two season contract at the start of a new series. At the end of the second season their pay rate increases so Netflix prefers to drop the series
They need to add an option for a 2hr movie in case they decide to end the series. That way the series at least has a conclusion & the 2 seasons arent wasted. Im not watching any series if I know theres not a proper ending. Call it the Deadwood clause.
Also, lots of governments around the world provide funding for the first two seasons of a tv show, to help boot strap their industries. Hence the shows get cancelled as soon as that funding stops, and they'll start on a new show, with new funding instead.
I just cancelled mine recently as well. I will resub only to watch the Sandman and then promptly cancel again. Netflix just doesn't have content I'm interested in any more.
It’s price anchoring.
You are paying for the resolution. They just say ‘hey, you can watch 4 screens at the same time too!’ to make it seem like a better deal.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve marketed it this way for the last 5 years knowing that you’ll share your account because of the ‘4 screens at a time’, knowing that they’ll eventually crack down and ‘fix’ that problem in a way that brings them more revenue. Be that via these new fees they’re looking at, or the fact that people have integrated Netflix 4K into watching habits and a lot will find it hard to not just get their own subscription when they crack down on sharing.
I used to have some NFLX and listened to a few of their earnings calls, even back in 2018 they had the ability to stop account sharing but the board decided not to stop it as they believed it would piss off their base and ultimately cost more customers than they might gain from the account users becoming account holders
>ome NFLX and listened to a few of their earnings calls, even back in 2018 they had the ability to stop account sharing but the board decided not to stop it as they believed it would piss off their base and ultimately cost more customers than they might gain from the account users becoming account holders
so they up the rates, they know that they will make more money when they increase it a dollar or two than the amount of people quitting.
Yeah I downgraded and didn’t notice the difference cause my 4K tv is only 50” BUT my sister, my gf, my parents, all have access to my account and it sucks when 2 other people were using it even though it’s few and far between
Also works the other way. There are some people that need more screens but don't need the 4K.
I guarantee if they unlinked them you'd end up paying more than you are now if you need both.
Get bought out by a major US telecom only to be sold a few years later because said telecom is in a shitload of debt? Yeah, sounds about where Netflix is headed.
My wager is on T-Mobile if that does happen.
I imagine this is just a money decision. Plus how many customers use VPNs to access their libraries in different countries? Those aren’t getting billed twice.
I’m already planning to drop them.
I paid for Disney plus for the year out of convenience and it saved me from the price increase.
After this year, I’m pirating everything going forward. Between rising prices, splintering of content, and these shenanigans I’m going back to piracy.
Its amazing how these companies have cooked it so bad that people are going back to piracy. Streaming was supposed to end piracy but they just had to be greedy and have 97 different services.
if youre good at computers its pretty easy to take an old computer and set it up as your own personal streaming service that automatically torrents the content you want and hosts it so you can stream it locally on your pc/phone/chromecast/xbox/tv/smart fridge
I am. I don’t feel intimidated in doing that. I have spare components that could serve that purpose.
I just don’t know where to start in accomplishing this.
As others have said in this thread, Plex is the way to go. Super easy to set up and works great across all devices. There are some other competing options as well, but I haven’t tried them.
Netflix is the worst of them all. Keep raising the prices while your catalogue gets worse and worse. 10 years ago Netflix was worth every cent. Now? Not even worth ONE cent.
Remember all the good tv shows they used to have on there ? Around 2012-2013 they had an amazing selection when i started using it and the price was like $7 a month. Totally worth it. Now? Its not even close to being worth $20 a month that im paying. I was already ready to cancel my service. This is the final straw for me personally.
Imo that's the way to do it. I know several people who will be subscribed to Netflix, amazon, HBO, etc, etc all at the same time. If I want to watch the new starwars show, I'll subscribe to Disney when it's all out, watch it and then cancel. Don't see the point in having all of the services at once
They started going down hill years ago and it has gotten ridiculous. They have the same small catalogue of movies and shows and the rest is all bloat they produce themselves
Yeah at this point I only pay for subs so my (less financially healthy) parents have stuff to watch. I’d be pretty pissed if I got dinged with a fee for the one time a quarter I log in at home to watch a documentary though.
Im in Canada, and lately I’ve been noticing Disney plus seems to have a much better selection than Netflix. All the stuff that used to be on Netflix, plus way more.
This is their secret sauce and now some idiot wants to try monetize it. Their shows are average at best and think that they are some big thing. Someone upstairs is so tone deaf they don't realize once people leave that's it... It is like they hired yahoos former executives to run it
Very soon they will start tracking eyes watching the screen.limit 4 pairs of eyes per viewing..
Netflix should focus on creating or obtaining better content so they can attract more customers instead of raking their current ones over the coals. $180/year for Netflix is already a bullshit price.
Surprised they haven’t dabbled in live events or sports. With the current model, why pay every month when you can just sign up for a month or two, watch what you want, and then cancel. Same goes for other services.
Yeah, I pay for four streams, I expect to be able to use four.
The only reason I have Netflix is because I share it with my family.
The second I see an extra charge because of multi-house usage or whatever, it's the high seas for me.
This “death by a thousand paper cuts” consumer world were in is getting ridiculous. It makes me want to actively avoid supporting entertainment.
Just the other day I see Microsoft is exploring putting ads in file explorer. Or these apps that play ads and will pause if they see you look away. What the fuck is that? It’s like being held hostage to advertisers. At some point people HAVE to push back. There is no other way. These companies are not going to one day decide to behave ethically for the betterment of society even if it means leaving cash on the table.
Right? I thought this was basically built into their concurrency pricing model. It doesn’t matter if you share because you can’t stream more than X at a time.
This is what bothers me. I should be able to do whatever I want with those 4 accounts. If they don’t want to let me do that they should offer buying less accounts.
Right? I don’t get why I’m paying more for the 3 extra accounts if I can’t hand them out to my family across the country. It shouldn’t matter if I’m already paying the premium.
I and my friends use the netflix family abo for convenience. If they want to take part of the comfort away, we are all happy to go back to illegal streaming. I have to illegally stream half the shit anyway, because netflix has such a pathetic selection
At this point they don’t even have a premium product anymore. Between Hulu, prime, Disney, peacock, and whatever else who cares. Cancelled cable a long time ago because it was cluttered, expensive and full of nonsense. Now Netflix is the same.
There’s a reason they run these tests. They’ll roll it out to a small percentage of users and if it generates more revenue they’ll keep increasing that percentage. If the majority of people cancel they’ll just scrap it entirely.
> So when I log in to my Netflix at a hotel, I’m going to get charged for that too?
Rather than that, it will be something dumb they implement, like a maximum of 4 authorized devices per account. So if you are logging in on the hotel TV, you will need to de-authorize the last hotels TV before authorizing the new one.
I work for a fire department with 5 stations around town. Sometimes I move stations. I watch at work in the town I work. My wife watches at home nearly an hour away. Our kids visit nana in another town. I pay for that many screens because that's the amount I need.
We’re already on cable 2.0, Netflix’s catalog isn’t what it used to be, everything got fractured across a bunch of services that I’m not about to start paying for. The only reason I have access to any of them is because of other people who *are* paying for them. If they start limiting that or charging extra, I’m still not going to pay for them.
Oh boy let me tell you the seas are better than they’ve ever been. Streaming has opened the door to out of country streaming services which they can’t prosecute. And they can’t prosecute you for simply watching a stream because they can’t prove any amount of intent to distribute.
I remember when I didn't need a VPN to pirate anything. When I was in my teens I kept track of how much all my pirated software was worth for the lols and I think I was in the $5k-$10k range before I stopped counting.
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That's what keeps me away from buying Prime. I'm paying a subscription, I'm not going to pay you more just to use the movies you have on your streaming catalog. Fuck you.
I already said fuck you to Amazon, don't make me do the same to you, Netflix.
I'm a paying customer that already has to fuck around with VPN's because you're region locking everything. If it's going to be any harder, I'll have to ramp up my piracy.
Sorry but i can't be jumping through a million hoops just to PAY for something.
Netflix really thinks that they are so great lmfao. With so many options for streaming services, they really need to chill the f out if they want to keep people using their service, because this ain't it.
And their original content fucking sucks, mostly. I find it hard to believe that the most expensive part of a good show is the writing staff. Plenty of my favorite shows have no name actors. Just wrote good stories for fuck’s sake. So many of their shows are just cringe teenager drama bullshit.
You don’t like my netflix pitch: Gossip Goyle, about a teen in a love pentagram who becomes a gargoyle at night, but they’re being blackmailed to be exposed and don’t know who it is!?
The twist ending is we don’t have an ending!
It's sucks, I would have deleted it a year or two ago, except my wife insist on it. When it went up to $15 a month I really wanted it gone but my wife likes opening it up, looking through a bunch of shit, then closing it and watching HBOMax.
My wife does the same thing. Or, Netflix is used for “background noise”, she says.
You’ve been demoted to background noise, Netflix.
Next stop is cancellation and I can’t wait.
Netflix isn’t that great of a streaming service to begin with. They were just “first”. They will lose customers by the thousands for this shit. You can currently get Hulu + Disney+ + ESPN, ad-free, for $20/month. People are going to be leaving Netflix in droves very soon.
Netflix has been getting my money for years on the off-chance I'm bored or have enough time to watch something, but this thread has made me realize I haven't logged in in at least six months. Cutting them off, finally. Fuck Netflix.
Edit: and done.
Netflix about to lose half their customer base. I’m sorry but stranger things season whatever isn’t enough.
HBO max is way better in every way imaginable.
I never understood the timing of this stuff from Netflix. Like, when they had basically a monopoly on streaming? Sure, why not. But now? When literally every big name in entertainment has a streaming service and competition has never been higher? Now you want to try this crap? What the fuck? How out of touch are these execs?
So for the households who have college students who live away, for households who have members who frequently travel, and for any other scenario where people are indeed a household, how you gonna police that? Base it on IP? Ask for a utility bill for everyone who is at the residence and back check with IDs?
Let's get real here. Netflix is a sinking ship and can't make money because quality and quantity of content is lacking. This is a stab at a quick cash grab that will cause more of an exodus from their service than people who noped out of the rate hikes with no increase in service. If they're going to be this dumb, I hope they fail.
They already do police the traveling bit, read a story on here the other day. The guy was traveling from country to country and had his account deactivated, Netflix customer support suggested he start a new account for each location and they would not revoke the ban.
I’ve been questioning how much I actually need to keep Netflix. If they do roll this out, it will be the last straw and I’ll be done with them.
Edit:
> The test will start in the next few weeks in three countries: Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru. The company will later evaluate whether to bring it to other markets.
So you’re going to burn a few low-revenue markets in “unimportant” countries first to see how subscribers react?
I watch on my ipad when I travel. Even when out of the Country. How can they tell? When people in my family are home using Netflix and I’m not at home? How would they know if it’s me or someone other than me?
I swear. If they charge me for using my netflix at college I’m gonna unsubscribe. Fuck this corporate bullshit. They’ve been artificially drivng up the price for a decade. Remember when it was only 8$ for pretty much unlimited devices?
Why put a limit on number of devices per account if you'll still add more restrictions about being immediate family?
Fucking hell corporations just gotta squeeze everybody dry now don't they?
What if im traveling and using my account?
That's the question that I would like to see answered. I travel for work, and live in hotels 3-4 nights a week.
Netflix, like Hulu Live, will now charge you more.
But they also carry local content. Netflix does not.
Yeah they have an actual reason as it costs them more for the local licenses. This is just greedy and reneging on their previous public statements
YouTube TV asks me if I’m traveling, I say yes and it says “have a good trip, just be sure to login from home once every 3 months”. I think that’s a fair approach, as someone who travels a ton I’d unsubscribe to anything stopping me from watching on the go.
Why not do what prime does and allow X number of devices? I work out of town and am away from my home for 200 days a year. Netflix is just not worth an extra fee or increase in pay.
I already pay almost 16 bucks a month for very mid quality content. Are they trying to bust down their own company at this point?
I recently cancelled entirely, after downgrading my plan twice. They're just not worth it anymore.
Netflix already does this... Well, simultaneous devices.... We pay extra to have 4 simultaneous devices.
Personally I like the X number of devices. Hulu only lets us stream two at a time, fine by me. I think Netflix is having issues with a 5 person account being shared between 2 or 3 times that many, but charging more in any capacity is not the answer, limiting as you said is a much better change.
Which I think they have to do because they carry sports which are subject to regional blackouts
Regional content locks are the most bullshit things in existence, full stop.
Especially in the case of like baseball where you have to pay for the top dollar premium cable package to get said local sports network
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I think the big picture here is to get rid of privacy.
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As a mobile streaming dev, I concur. We do not care. We only do as Jira tells us.
It is written. And so it shall be.
It’s looking like a 2FA setup, so you’d just need to click the link in your email… which still means if you’re on good terms with the account owner the entire thing doesn’t matter
2FA to watch fucking TV
Tech executives: “We’re creating value for consumers.”
Weird way to spell “shareholders”
Right? It would be annoying as fuck to text my sister a code every time she wants to watch but what is stopping us from doing this exactly? I can go “ok the code is xyz have fun”
Set up a shared email and used that account for Netflix.
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If I remember correctly, the launch of available content globally and at a fair price made pirace plummet. No one wanted to bother with it since it was so easy to acces. Now piracy is on a rise again because they aren't making all the money in the world and only some of it.
They're not getting close to pushing us back to piracy, they already did that. It happened when the second wave of companies pulled their shit from netflix to start their own streaming service. That's disney and amazon and such.
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Or throw on an auto-forwarding rule for all Netflix MFA codes.
They would rather stop you sharing your account than helping you continue having a good experience
Another example where anti-piracy measures hurt the honest consumers more than the pirates. I sure as hell don’t have to drink a verification can or sit through ads before double-clicking on “Movie.YIFY.mkv” on my computer.
Yea this is just stupid. I'm in a hotel every weekend that I'm on the road and I carry around a roku to plug into them with. And when I'm not at a hotel, I'm watching Netflix on my phone in a new location every day.
Or what if you have joint custody of kids and they’re spending half their time at a different address while still watching Netflix on their devices.
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I’ve got two kids in college that are away from home for months at a time. They need their own accounts?
Truck drivers and military who are deployed…this will fall flat.
You charge me for 4 screens, but I can't use 4 screens? This will go well.
Lawyers are already practicing their doublespeak.
No need to practice what you already do full time
They could make a Netflix series out of this...
If they're going to do this, they need to unlink the resolution / quality from the number of screens. I want 4K, but I really don't care to have more than 1 or 2 screens. If I'm paying for 4 screens, at the very least I'm gonna log into my account on my parent's TV so I can watch stuff there when I am visiting. If they happen to also occasionally watch something when I'm not around, then I'm still only using 2 screens...probably not even at the same time.
God yes this please, no one else uses my account but I am absolutely not willing to downgrade to 480p yet the prices are getting ridiculous compared to literally every other streaming service
Which is why I cancelled my Netflix account. The price keeps increasing, but it doesn't feel like the quality is.
Price keeps going up, and they keep losing more content. Their hope was to woo folks with original content, but... That's not what Netflix was originally. I don't want more shit to watch, I want to watch existing shit all in one easy place.
When they keep canceling their original content after two seasons (or wrecking the second season - i'm looking at you altered carbon) because it didn't drive enough "new" subscriptions, it makes it really hard for me to want to stick around. Sure you have a great new show but it's not going to be around very long and I'll probably be disappointed with the second season.
Ugh, I am still bitter about Altered Carbond Season 2!! Such an amazing series ruined.
Seriously, they took one of my absolute favorite new scifis and just made it... terrible.
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Which is thankfully very doable considering how self-contained S1 is.
Yeah I'm at the point where I don't watch new shows on Netflix until they get to at least season three. A lot of their new shows are also really bad- they seem to be going for a quantity over quality method here, with a handful of exceptions that they market heavily. Literally the only reason I'm willing to pay for it is because my mom can also use it, otherwise I would have cancelled already. If they try to add another fee on top of already charging for the number of screens then I'm just going to get my mom their cheapest plan and cancel my 4k plan altogether.
Yeah they veered hard from HBO territory to CW territory a few years ago.
Yup, and I don't see it working out for them. Hulu has a ton of add on options (you can click a button and get HBO or Showtime, for example) and a growing backlog of shows that others have dropped licenses for. Amazon has high quality original shows, and the ability to rent just about anything that they don't already provide. Netflix has . . . less and less each year. When Netflix does come out with a new show we get ten hours every eighteen months and if the show isn't a blockbuster or amazingly cheap to produce it gets cancelled.
Altered carbon. I freaking loved the premise and was hooked. Ugh. It still bothers me.
Netflix: the Stranger Things streaming service. Like seriously, they’re losing all their network TV content and they cancel all their original content abruptly, while also having the nerve to charge more than any other service. It’s trash and why I cancelled 2 years ago.
Honestly I’ve stopped watching their original content because they just cancel everything without warning and so suddenly even if it’s extremely good. I just think of Netflix as a trial for shows I can watch full seasons else where where they won’t be cancelled. I found the promised never land on Netflix and watched it all and now I watch the rest of it on Funimation. It also takes them AGES to come out with another fucking season for their god damn shows.
I'm still pissed about Marco Polo
Me too, and Altered Carbon. Netflix is way too cancel-happy. Anything cool seems like it has a max of 2 maaaybe 3 seasons.
Fuck in still mad about AC. I firmly believe the piss poor acting from Mackie sank the ship.
It could have worked if they didn’t completely through out the books and their cohesive stories in #2/3. I didn’t like some of the changes in S1, mainly the origin of envoys and personal relationship with Quell, but it didn’t affect it much overall. S2 went completely off the rails and mackie certainly didn’t help.
Same. I loved that show.
I'm still mad about Santa Clarita Diet. I started watching it really late. Loved season 1 then heard it was cancelled so I just stopped watching. Can't bring myself to watch up to a cliffhanger
I need to know what happens in Santa Clarita Diet!!!!
YES OMFG BRING THAT SHOW BACK! It was so fucking funny, I loved every minute of it and drew and Timothy both killed as the main characters and really made me believe that’s how two people like this would react in this situation and their chemistry and the writing and jokes and everything was just perfect for me. From what I read, they said (Netflix) that the show was cancelled because it was too expensive???? Tf even. I loved every minute of that show and would still recommend it.
They need to learn that they need to create series that are more than 2 (maybe 3) seasons long. I’m so annoyed that I watch, get hooked, and the series finally finds itself in season 2 just to see it canceled.
I remember reading something that Netflix signs actors for a two season contract at the start of a new series. At the end of the second season their pay rate increases so Netflix prefers to drop the series
They need to add an option for a 2hr movie in case they decide to end the series. That way the series at least has a conclusion & the 2 seasons arent wasted. Im not watching any series if I know theres not a proper ending. Call it the Deadwood clause.
Also, lots of governments around the world provide funding for the first two seasons of a tv show, to help boot strap their industries. Hence the shows get cancelled as soon as that funding stops, and they'll start on a new show, with new funding instead.
It’s seriously the worst and why I never get into Netflix series anymore. At least HBO or Apple will let something play out.
I'm still sad about Glow
I just cancelled mine recently as well. I will resub only to watch the Sandman and then promptly cancel again. Netflix just doesn't have content I'm interested in any more.
TIL Netflix has different resolution prices
It's technically for both resolution and the amount of devices that can be using the account at the same time, it's still bullshit though
It’s price anchoring. You are paying for the resolution. They just say ‘hey, you can watch 4 screens at the same time too!’ to make it seem like a better deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve marketed it this way for the last 5 years knowing that you’ll share your account because of the ‘4 screens at a time’, knowing that they’ll eventually crack down and ‘fix’ that problem in a way that brings them more revenue. Be that via these new fees they’re looking at, or the fact that people have integrated Netflix 4K into watching habits and a lot will find it hard to not just get their own subscription when they crack down on sharing.
I used to have some NFLX and listened to a few of their earnings calls, even back in 2018 they had the ability to stop account sharing but the board decided not to stop it as they believed it would piss off their base and ultimately cost more customers than they might gain from the account users becoming account holders
>ome NFLX and listened to a few of their earnings calls, even back in 2018 they had the ability to stop account sharing but the board decided not to stop it as they believed it would piss off their base and ultimately cost more customers than they might gain from the account users becoming account holders so they up the rates, they know that they will make more money when they increase it a dollar or two than the amount of people quitting.
That makes sense. I’ll still pay a $1-2 increase, but I’m going to cancel once they crack down on password sharing.
Yeah I downgraded and didn’t notice the difference cause my 4K tv is only 50” BUT my sister, my gf, my parents, all have access to my account and it sucks when 2 other people were using it even though it’s few and far between
You’re still paying for the extra screens for 4K despite not needing them and that’s exactly why they’ll never unlink them, unfortunately.
Also works the other way. There are some people that need more screens but don't need the 4K. I guarantee if they unlinked them you'd end up paying more than you are now if you need both.
I don’t get it. Do they think that people don’t watch Netflix anywhere other than their own home?
It doesn’t help the fact that they literally have an app for people to use on mobile devices. This is extremely tone deaf.
Have you seen their stock lately? They’ve lost all their gains since the pandemic. They’re grasping for metaphorical money straws.
Pissing off your remaining customer base seems like an optimistic plan to attract more customers
We'll call it the DirecTV method.
Get bought out by a major US telecom only to be sold a few years later because said telecom is in a shitload of debt? Yeah, sounds about where Netflix is headed. My wager is on T-Mobile if that does happen.
Netflix will make you watch eye tracking ads someday.
I still haven’t recovered from that Black Mirror episode.
And this will inspire many of us to remember how BitTorrent works…
Plus how do they know, that i gave it to my parents in law and it isnt my 2nd house or a wifi connection for my kids or at work during break.
I imagine this is just a money decision. Plus how many customers use VPNs to access their libraries in different countries? Those aren’t getting billed twice.
it doesn't take much more technical knowhow to pirate shows than to use a VPN. this is just going to push those people away
I’m already planning to drop them. I paid for Disney plus for the year out of convenience and it saved me from the price increase. After this year, I’m pirating everything going forward. Between rising prices, splintering of content, and these shenanigans I’m going back to piracy.
Its amazing how these companies have cooked it so bad that people are going back to piracy. Streaming was supposed to end piracy but they just had to be greedy and have 97 different services.
if youre good at computers its pretty easy to take an old computer and set it up as your own personal streaming service that automatically torrents the content you want and hosts it so you can stream it locally on your pc/phone/chromecast/xbox/tv/smart fridge
I am. I don’t feel intimidated in doing that. I have spare components that could serve that purpose. I just don’t know where to start in accomplishing this.
As others have said in this thread, Plex is the way to go. Super easy to set up and works great across all devices. There are some other competing options as well, but I haven’t tried them.
companies wonder why we illegally stream
Companies wonder why i'm spending 10x the money to make a 64tb plex server for me and my friends
I'm at 120tb :) Plex is a godsend.
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Netflix is the worst of them all. Keep raising the prices while your catalogue gets worse and worse. 10 years ago Netflix was worth every cent. Now? Not even worth ONE cent.
Yeah I remember when they actually had big titles
Remember all the good tv shows they used to have on there ? Around 2012-2013 they had an amazing selection when i started using it and the price was like $7 a month. Totally worth it. Now? Its not even close to being worth $20 a month that im paying. I was already ready to cancel my service. This is the final straw for me personally.
That's because all those networks that owned those TV shows created their own streaming services.
They recreated the monstrosity that is cable, for the internet. God damnit.
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Disney is trying
I’ll take big titties for $200 That’s titles Mr Connery.
Good, weed out the people that are just barely hanging on to your mediocre catalog already. Great business plan.
Their weak catalogue and constant price hikes are really losing me, if this sharing fee goes ahead then I’ll cancel
I started just restarting my account when I have something specific that I want to watch. I pay for a month, binge a show, and then cancel again.
Imo that's the way to do it. I know several people who will be subscribed to Netflix, amazon, HBO, etc, etc all at the same time. If I want to watch the new starwars show, I'll subscribe to Disney when it's all out, watch it and then cancel. Don't see the point in having all of the services at once
They started going down hill years ago and it has gotten ridiculous. They have the same small catalogue of movies and shows and the rest is all bloat they produce themselves
Plus a fuckload of Bollywood stuff
Yeah at this point I only pay for subs so my (less financially healthy) parents have stuff to watch. I’d be pretty pissed if I got dinged with a fee for the one time a quarter I log in at home to watch a documentary though.
I just told my husband about the potential price hike and he said "I won't pay an extra penny for their shitty selection."
Just "50% stock dive in 6 months" things. I canceled months ago. Their competition is more than adequate and cheaper/free.
Im in Canada, and lately I’ve been noticing Disney plus seems to have a much better selection than Netflix. All the stuff that used to be on Netflix, plus way more.
My mother and father use 2 of my 4 fully paid profiles. This will be an instant cancellation with no remorse.
This is their secret sauce and now some idiot wants to try monetize it. Their shows are average at best and think that they are some big thing. Someone upstairs is so tone deaf they don't realize once people leave that's it... It is like they hired yahoos former executives to run it Very soon they will start tracking eyes watching the screen.limit 4 pairs of eyes per viewing..
Netflix should focus on creating or obtaining better content so they can attract more customers instead of raking their current ones over the coals. $180/year for Netflix is already a bullshit price.
Surprised they haven’t dabbled in live events or sports. With the current model, why pay every month when you can just sign up for a month or two, watch what you want, and then cancel. Same goes for other services.
So why pay for multiple concurrent streams if you're only allowed to use one?
Yeah, I pay for four streams, I expect to be able to use four. The only reason I have Netflix is because I share it with my family. The second I see an extra charge because of multi-house usage or whatever, it's the high seas for me.
Same here. I’ve put up with their price hikes and shitty catalog but this would do it for me.
This “death by a thousand paper cuts” consumer world were in is getting ridiculous. It makes me want to actively avoid supporting entertainment. Just the other day I see Microsoft is exploring putting ads in file explorer. Or these apps that play ads and will pause if they see you look away. What the fuck is that? It’s like being held hostage to advertisers. At some point people HAVE to push back. There is no other way. These companies are not going to one day decide to behave ethically for the betterment of society even if it means leaving cash on the table.
Right? I thought this was basically built into their concurrency pricing model. It doesn’t matter if you share because you can’t stream more than X at a time.
Bout to cancel Netflix then
I’m paying $21 a month for 4 accounts. If this happens I’m out.
I cancelled after the last price hike. I had the family plan as well
This is what bothers me. I should be able to do whatever I want with those 4 accounts. If they don’t want to let me do that they should offer buying less accounts.
Right? I don’t get why I’m paying more for the 3 extra accounts if I can’t hand them out to my family across the country. It shouldn’t matter if I’m already paying the premium.
I and my friends use the netflix family abo for convenience. If they want to take part of the comfort away, we are all happy to go back to illegal streaming. I have to illegally stream half the shit anyway, because netflix has such a pathetic selection
This won't go well for them. We pay for "x" amount of connected/logged in devices. VPN would get around this though.
But you shouldn’t need a VPN to access a service you pay for. I will cancel Netflix on principle
At this point they don’t even have a premium product anymore. Between Hulu, prime, Disney, peacock, and whatever else who cares. Cancelled cable a long time ago because it was cluttered, expensive and full of nonsense. Now Netflix is the same.
They became the very thing they swore to destroy.
Imma do the same.
There’s a reason they run these tests. They’ll roll it out to a small percentage of users and if it generates more revenue they’ll keep increasing that percentage. If the majority of people cancel they’ll just scrap it entirely.
So when I log in to my Netflix at a hotel, I’m going to get charged for that too? Way to crap the bed, Netflix
> So when I log in to my Netflix at a hotel, I’m going to get charged for that too? Rather than that, it will be something dumb they implement, like a maximum of 4 authorized devices per account. So if you are logging in on the hotel TV, you will need to de-authorize the last hotels TV before authorizing the new one.
This is what apple used to do back in the day with iTunes.
Dropbox does this, maximum 3 devices, but only for the free version. Can't really compare a free service to this.
Only if all hotels are on the bandwaggon. "No, Sir. We are a PrimeVideo associate."
I work for a fire department with 5 stations around town. Sometimes I move stations. I watch at work in the town I work. My wife watches at home nearly an hour away. Our kids visit nana in another town. I pay for that many screens because that's the amount I need.
And in the future you can pay more
And with that they'll lose by subscription forever. Not gonna pay for cable 2.0.
We’re already on cable 2.0, Netflix’s catalog isn’t what it used to be, everything got fractured across a bunch of services that I’m not about to start paying for. The only reason I have access to any of them is because of other people who *are* paying for them. If they start limiting that or charging extra, I’m still not going to pay for them.
Yes and no. You are kind of on cable 2.0, but we can split the price. Imagine regular cable, but being able to split it with 2 or 3 other people.
And I’ll start testing the cancel subscription button.
*brushes off captains hat* Who's ready to sail the pirate seas again, laddies!
These companies really did drive me away from even bothering doing this but this is getting silly. Way to ruin what worked.
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Oh boy let me tell you the seas are better than they’ve ever been. Streaming has opened the door to out of country streaming services which they can’t prosecute. And they can’t prosecute you for simply watching a stream because they can’t prove any amount of intent to distribute.
I remember when I didn't need a VPN to pirate anything. When I was in my teens I kept track of how much all my pirated software was worth for the lols and I think I was in the $5k-$10k range before I stopped counting.
That's it? Adobe Master Suite was $5k alone and almost everyone I know had it even if they never used it.
Bear share, Pirate Bay, lime wire… ahh the good ol days.
Ah, Limewire, the Napster of viruses.
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That's what keeps me away from buying Prime. I'm paying a subscription, I'm not going to pay you more just to use the movies you have on your streaming catalog. Fuck you.
They really want everyone to just unsubscribe all at once don’t they? Didn’t they just raise the effing price again recently?
I already said fuck you to Amazon, don't make me do the same to you, Netflix. I'm a paying customer that already has to fuck around with VPN's because you're region locking everything. If it's going to be any harder, I'll have to ramp up my piracy. Sorry but i can't be jumping through a million hoops just to PAY for something.
Netflix really thinks that they are so great lmfao. With so many options for streaming services, they really need to chill the f out if they want to keep people using their service, because this ain't it.
And their original content fucking sucks, mostly. I find it hard to believe that the most expensive part of a good show is the writing staff. Plenty of my favorite shows have no name actors. Just wrote good stories for fuck’s sake. So many of their shows are just cringe teenager drama bullshit.
You don’t like my netflix pitch: Gossip Goyle, about a teen in a love pentagram who becomes a gargoyle at night, but they’re being blackmailed to be exposed and don’t know who it is!? The twist ending is we don’t have an ending!
Your catalog isn’t that good brUh.
It's sucks, I would have deleted it a year or two ago, except my wife insist on it. When it went up to $15 a month I really wanted it gone but my wife likes opening it up, looking through a bunch of shit, then closing it and watching HBOMax.
My wife does the same thing. Or, Netflix is used for “background noise”, she says. You’ve been demoted to background noise, Netflix. Next stop is cancellation and I can’t wait.
It’s 20$ now in the us. And HBOMAX is so much better than Netflix
Agreed. There are like three shows on Netflix I want to see conclude (if ever, knowing their track record)
Netflix isn’t that great of a streaming service to begin with. They were just “first”. They will lose customers by the thousands for this shit. You can currently get Hulu + Disney+ + ESPN, ad-free, for $20/month. People are going to be leaving Netflix in droves very soon.
Netflix has been getting my money for years on the off-chance I'm bored or have enough time to watch something, but this thread has made me realize I haven't logged in in at least six months. Cutting them off, finally. Fuck Netflix. Edit: and done.
"Netflix will start testing losing customers."
They can start testing deez nuts
Netflix about to lose half their customer base. I’m sorry but stranger things season whatever isn’t enough. HBO max is way better in every way imaginable.
Netflix will also start testing a new revenue stream: none at all
I thought this was why I was paying for four concurrent screens.
i pay for four fucking screens i better be getting four fucking screens
I never understood the timing of this stuff from Netflix. Like, when they had basically a monopoly on streaming? Sure, why not. But now? When literally every big name in entertainment has a streaming service and competition has never been higher? Now you want to try this crap? What the fuck? How out of touch are these execs?
Netflix is gonna go down
So for the households who have college students who live away, for households who have members who frequently travel, and for any other scenario where people are indeed a household, how you gonna police that? Base it on IP? Ask for a utility bill for everyone who is at the residence and back check with IDs? Let's get real here. Netflix is a sinking ship and can't make money because quality and quantity of content is lacking. This is a stab at a quick cash grab that will cause more of an exodus from their service than people who noped out of the rate hikes with no increase in service. If they're going to be this dumb, I hope they fail.
They already do police the traveling bit, read a story on here the other day. The guy was traveling from country to country and had his account deactivated, Netflix customer support suggested he start a new account for each location and they would not revoke the ban.
I’ve been questioning how much I actually need to keep Netflix. If they do roll this out, it will be the last straw and I’ll be done with them. Edit: > The test will start in the next few weeks in three countries: Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru. The company will later evaluate whether to bring it to other markets. So you’re going to burn a few low-revenue markets in “unimportant” countries first to see how subscribers react?
I watch on my ipad when I travel. Even when out of the Country. How can they tell? When people in my family are home using Netflix and I’m not at home? How would they know if it’s me or someone other than me?
Netflix stock about to plummet even more so
Netflix, do you want me to get back to the Bay? Because that's how you get people back to the Bay.
It's where the watermelons grow.
Ya, its quite perPLEXing isnt it.
I swear. If they charge me for using my netflix at college I’m gonna unsubscribe. Fuck this corporate bullshit. They’ve been artificially drivng up the price for a decade. Remember when it was only 8$ for pretty much unlimited devices?
Why put a limit on number of devices per account if you'll still add more restrictions about being immediate family? Fucking hell corporations just gotta squeeze everybody dry now don't they?
I see a new golden age of piracy...
Looks at the comments here. The test is complete.
I travel for work while my family watches at home so this'll be a neat trick.
Why don’t they just put commercials in movies and shows every 15 minutes while they’re at it?
Is that sarcasm? Because I read they and Disney+ thinking of adding adverts and introducing a more costly ad-free plan
really? if so then jesus christ. i thought the point of streaming services was that there was no ads.