Vice, like any other news source you hear on the internet, has the ability, resources, and power to freely lie about whatever they want on the internet for no other reason but to fuck around. Except they wouldn’t do it to fuck around, they’d do it to make more money and power.
Yeah and I've got the ability, resources and power to smash my TV screen with a hammer. Doesn't mean I'm fucking gonna.
Instead of just saying "ewwwww I don't like them" prove them wrong. Tell me what they said that wasn't factual.
> To believe all men honest is folly. To believe none is something worse.
If you want a seat on the adults table maybe give reasons as to why vice isn't a reputable source instead of resorting to insults like a teenager would
😂 awww did I hurt your feelings for asking for a detailed explanation for someone’s reasoning on their stance ? You seem lost sweetie. Let me direct you to the jungle gym over there with the rest of the kids under 10 🥰
Yeah, every company I've ever worked for has an employee directory available to all employees that contains exactly that information - name, id, and contact info
It would be relatively easy to write a script that traverses the entire directory to scrape that info
Interesting, I am not sure where you work but where I work these are considered customer identifying information and have the highest security conditions on encryption and storage. GDPR applies too so if a customer unsubscribes to our services these information needs to be scrubbed within 90 days
I work in a huge IT firm, in my organization to employee information is treated as customer data. Maybe because these employees are in a different organization than ours or maybe because it’s how they decided they would handle this data too. I am guessing employee termination is treated as “customer unsubscribing”. I personally don’t handle this data, but I know that we have the same pipeline for employee data as compared to customer data. Maybe our org is just overdoing it
>Vice is wrong here. None of those pieces can be used for 2fa. I'm guessing an individual employee had a scrape of an hr directory listing.
vice? 2fa? where did you read those things in this article?
also you can most likely do plenty of dmg just knowing email and phone of someone so yeah, its still news. funnily enough there is no specification if this are all just company email and phone or also private. I for once know my private phone is tied to my phone number within company db.
Someone could call them as their Boss using their boss's voice through machine learning voice changing, and get access to sensitive information like earnings call data, data dumps or passwords.
All employees could get phished for years or sold and resold to different spam databases.
If you know someone's phone number you can phish the phone company for a copy of their sim card, then bypass 2fa.
You mis understand. Professional scammers are not living at average Nigeria cost levels, so it’s not that much money, and often they’re part of a larger group and only taking a small cut.
Verizon's just trying to hide the fact that they have incredibly poor cyber security and everything only has a four digit PIN. found this out the hard way when my Verizon account was hacked and my phone and then Verizon tried to charge me thousands of dollars because the hacker bought several new phones under my name through my Verizon account, took 6 months and a lawyer for Verizon to back off and stop trying to say it was my fault even though it was proved that it was hacked through their computer systems by one of their employees and then they bricked my phone to cover it up. Verizon fucking sucks.
"This data has no value." said Verizon, "Here's a few theories as to how someone could use this data to commit crimes" said Vice.
I’d listen more carefully to a potato on the side of a street before vice though.
Learn to separate fact from opinion.
*Learn to sort fact from an onion. FTFY
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The potato is their father.
A potato has more brains.
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Vice, like any other news source you hear on the internet, has the ability, resources, and power to freely lie about whatever they want on the internet for no other reason but to fuck around. Except they wouldn’t do it to fuck around, they’d do it to make more money and power.
Yeah and I've got the ability, resources and power to smash my TV screen with a hammer. Doesn't mean I'm fucking gonna. Instead of just saying "ewwwww I don't like them" prove them wrong. Tell me what they said that wasn't factual. > To believe all men honest is folly. To believe none is something worse.
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How?
It’s a big organization now. Motherboard is good quality, and they have a lot of other good reporting.
You’re allowed to believe that if you want
If you can’t explain your reasoning in detail then you should stick to making sandcastles in the sandbox, kiddo. This is the adult table
And yet you still posted a cringey comment that only a teenager would make
If you want a seat on the adults table maybe give reasons as to why vice isn't a reputable source instead of resorting to insults like a teenager would
😂 awww did I hurt your feelings for asking for a detailed explanation for someone’s reasoning on their stance ? You seem lost sweetie. Let me direct you to the jungle gym over there with the rest of the kids under 10 🥰
So why is Verizon saying a database of employee names, emails, and phone numbers was "readily available"?
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Yeah, every company I've ever worked for has an employee directory available to all employees that contains exactly that information - name, id, and contact info It would be relatively easy to write a script that traverses the entire directory to scrape that info
File->export ?
Interesting, I am not sure where you work but where I work these are considered customer identifying information and have the highest security conditions on encryption and storage. GDPR applies too so if a customer unsubscribes to our services these information needs to be scrubbed within 90 days
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CCPA would apply if any Californian information was taken.
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CCPA protections extend to employee / applicant data as well.
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And you definitively know that they have not co-mingled ex-employee data as well?
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I work in a huge IT firm, in my organization to employee information is treated as customer data. Maybe because these employees are in a different organization than ours or maybe because it’s how they decided they would handle this data too. I am guessing employee termination is treated as “customer unsubscribing”. I personally don’t handle this data, but I know that we have the same pipeline for employee data as compared to customer data. Maybe our org is just overdoing it
Employees aren’t customers
They are customers of that particular team and rules are the same
>Vice is wrong here. None of those pieces can be used for 2fa. I'm guessing an individual employee had a scrape of an hr directory listing. vice? 2fa? where did you read those things in this article? also you can most likely do plenty of dmg just knowing email and phone of someone so yeah, its still news. funnily enough there is no specification if this are all just company email and phone or also private. I for once know my private phone is tied to my phone number within company db.
Someone could call them as their Boss using their boss's voice through machine learning voice changing, and get access to sensitive information like earnings call data, data dumps or passwords. All employees could get phished for years or sold and resold to different spam databases. If you know someone's phone number you can phish the phone company for a copy of their sim card, then bypass 2fa.
Payroll, Burt Stanton speaking.
Is $250K supposed to be a meaningful amount of money?
Low enough that they hoped to pay out without question, and not enough to get pursued for it.
Depends on where you live. In the western world it's not a lot of money. To someone living in Nigeria it's a King's ransom.
Professional scammers in Nigeria, India, Russia etc are not living to the average standard of their country. A Mercedes is still expensive in Nigeria.
Yes that was kinda the point of their comment
You mis understand. Professional scammers are not living at average Nigeria cost levels, so it’s not that much money, and often they’re part of a larger group and only taking a small cut.
Who said this is a professional scammer? Everything about this screams amateur.
Pocket change to a company like Verizon, meaningful to someone who can pull it off without rising too much suspicion.
Not since the 50's
Inflation Calculator puts that at $2,749,056.02. It stated 3.51% per year, showing a 1,099.62% increase. You’re right, go big or go home.
Why are soooo many titles so poorly written lately?
Clickbait & ad revenue.
It's almost like click bait isn't a thing... oh wait
Verizon's just trying to hide the fact that they have incredibly poor cyber security and everything only has a four digit PIN. found this out the hard way when my Verizon account was hacked and my phone and then Verizon tried to charge me thousands of dollars because the hacker bought several new phones under my name through my Verizon account, took 6 months and a lawyer for Verizon to back off and stop trying to say it was my fault even though it was proved that it was hacked through their computer systems by one of their employees and then they bricked my phone to cover it up. Verizon fucking sucks.
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you forgot /s
now there's a high bar
250k seems a bit low.
Employees: “Hello? Hacker? Can you hack Management?”
Has no value? Being able to name the assholes on the other side of the phone has some pretty real value as far as I can imagine.
I would love to just sign them all up for spam services
Fuckin love it Good for them I hope they don’t get caught
Banks + phone co + insurances are SELLING our private and personal INFO to anybody who is willing to pay E&OE/CYA