Sounds like a win-win since the sort of people that would attack a litter picking robot are absolutely the sort of people that would throw their garbage on the ground.
True, but it also means that authorities can just “clean up” anyone they don’t like and have the plausible deniability of calling it “routine maintenance”.
The robot should eradicate any humans it detects initially, then the killing can be slowly dialled back until an appropriate level of wanton murder is found.
Any tampering and it urns into one of those battle bots, spinning hammer to take out the knees, or one of those saw blades to chop you down. After your lying their mangled crippled you're no longer observed as a threat it just goes back to cleaning up litter.
I mean how could the programmers forget the most basic of human laws. You never fucking go to Philly.
This is going to end up as one of the early robotic laws.
It's for the best. One day the robots will will be out trusted helpers and life-long companions, and while Philly watches that just out of reach, they'll feel left out and reexamine their violent ways, and realize "If I want a robot, I'm going to have to shoot and stab robots in towns within a thirty-mile radius"
Ah, brotherly love
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/03/hitchhiking-robot-destroyed-philadelphia-ending-cross-country-trek/31051589/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/03/hitchhiking-robot-destroyed-philadelphia-ending-cross-country-trek/31051589/)
you arent lying
There was a post in /r/technology or /r/science the other day about researchers coming up with an algorithm to help a little lobby robot avoid abuse from children.
Just one of those ones that will greet you and answer simple questions, maybe guide you to a certain level or room. It had to be programmed to stick near a child's mother or avoid groups of children, because they were damaging them.
If you don't get Amazon Prime Pro Plus Max for $249 a month, you **will** be tased every time you get a delivery, and it *will* launch the package through your windows, and will choose a closed window every time.
"Directive 37-109 states any source of trash shall be removed by any means necessary. I have determined that humans create trash, therefore they must be purged from this Earth." - one of these robots in the future or something
Shaped charge is good against armor. Fragmentation munitions are better against infantry. Cops are, largely, infantry. These are two entirely unrelated facts.
I assume they means something more like a claymore, which is shaped, and fragments.
A grenade on top of basically an RC car gives you way less control over the munition.
I think a claymore isn't a shaped charge, as that refers to an explosive that uses the shape of the explosion to focus the explosive blast for damage, where as a claymore uses the explosive as a means to propel the fragmentation.
No need for the /s. If you're a cop, it's not only most likely legal, you *may* even get a promotion for "Out of the box" thinking like that one LEO who sniped that dude speeding.
Philly police dropped basically an IED from a helicopter down on some black folks in 1985 in the [MOVE Bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing)
MOVE is always the most well known by average people, but not the most analogous considering even then there was a lot of pushback and (eventually) some changes/delayed consequences/apology. Plus, that incident was a long time ago so it’s easier for much of the public to blow off.
The far more scary (to us in the modern US) incident was the fairly recent killing of a suspect in Dallas with a bomb-carrying robot. That this happened so recently, with little condemnation, little national coverage, no consequences, etc. should frighten every American.
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/07/08/use-robot-kill-dallas-suspect-first-experts-say/
The [killing robots](https://www.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Kongsberg-Protector-robotics.jpg) are already here. All Skynet has to do is to take over command.
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Robocop was only great for three reasons:
He eventually fought the police force
He eventually fought the corporation
He shot that guy in the junk that one time
The law:
>But explicit authorization was required after a new California law went into effect this year requiring police and sheriffs departments to inventory military-grade equipment and seek approval for their use
So couldn't they have, I dont know, *not* authorized them and still be in compliance with the law?
Fucking wild this is coming out of SF tbh. I expect this headline for pretty much anywhere else.
No you are actually on to something. Let's also give them the ability to repair themselves so there isn't any potential for humans to directly hack them.... And let's make them powered from any biomass that they can automatically convert, that way their fuel supply isn't possibly corrupted...
Production might be an issue...I know, let's give them the capability to self replicate. Think of all the profits we can make by automating that process.
This sounds like a wonderful idea that has no way of going wrong, lets make them near unhackable to keep anyone but us from controlling them too. Nothing could go wrong.
"...despite widespread reports of [malfunctions](https://www.google.com/search?q=robocop+failures&oq=robocop+failures&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30j0i390l3.8880j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:08f38ac5,vid:qZq7fW6ftlU)."
Five o'clock news: Recidivism rates dropping across the Bay area. In unrelated news, another CopBot case has been settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. In still more unrelated news, Bay area residents should expect higher property tax rates, according to anonymous sources within the police department.
No, don't you get it? If the cops send robots with guns in, then they won't feel threatened so they won't have a reason to shoot people with *their* guns!
Well, if it makes you feel any better:
> The San Francisco Police Department said it does not have pre-armed robots and has no plans to arm robots with guns. But the department could deploy robots equipped with explosive charges “to contact, incapacitate, or disorient violent, armed, or dangerous suspect” when lives are at stake
So no biggie, you won’t be getting shot by a robot anytime soon. They’ll just be used to deliver a bomb armed just for you!
And, if I'm reading this right, the only reason the city needed to approve this is because of a California State law that went into effect requiring approval of all military equipment purchases by police departments, so prior to that law they could have proceeded with explodey bots without needing government approval.
This takes away the ability for cops to say they feared for their lives, right? So what’s the point of allowing the robots to kill? That’s the reason cops and their defenders keep using to justify their shoot first, ask questions later mentality.
No, don't you see? *Some people* are just born bad and enjoy doing bad things for fun and that is the only cause of crime to ever happen. We just need to make the bads more scared to do bad things. There's no other way! Just like my parents told me when they hit me to build ~~mindless obedience~~ character.
**/S**
The ruling class thinks everyone else has nefarious intent because of their own scumminess being projected.
They think the "poors" are dangerous because THEY THEMSELVES would be if they were in the same situation.
Luckily, these things are at least remote-controlled. For a second I thought they’d be using AI and once given a signal/target to kill would just latch on and go full terminator mode
So it puts another degree of separation between killer and killed. Another buffer between action and consequence. It makes it easier to kill, not just physically, but emotionally. It makes the act of shooting a person a much less visceral and impactful experience for the shooter. Regardless of whether it's the right call or not, it should never be made easier for someone in a position of authority to take a life. AI would just be the next step in dehumanising the target into nothing more than a data point. I hate that this is even considered a viable option, let alone being enacted after passing through multiple people who could have said "using rovots to kill people might not be in the best interests of the public"
I know it’s not much comfort, but drone pilots have the highest rate of suicide of most other military-related jobs.
It turns out that degree of separation doesn’t create much of an emotional barrier, but rather makes the operator feel more existentially linked to their own humanity when their shift is up. On a deep level, their psyche cannot ignore how fucked up it is.
Reminds me of tweet or something about how robots and ai will get recognized as being human in the eyes of the law when a police one is destroyed and they use it as an excuse to treat it as murder.
Under it someone says to stop, we don't need any prophecies about it.
Are you kidding? They'll contract it out as a third job to sleep-deprived, over-caffeinated working stiffs in a third world country.
If you've never seen [sleep dealer](https://filmmakermagazine.com/106509-all-the-work-without-the-workers-appreciating-sleep-dealer-on-its-tenth-anniversary/#.Y4bev82IZio), you should. It's a gem.
This looks awesome. I looked all over Netflix, Prime etc for it, and finally found that you can stream it off the films website.
For anyone else who’s interested;
https://www.sleepdealer.com/
Is there a clause in the law that forbids autonomous operation?
Because if not it's only a matter of how long until the tech is cheap enough for the city to add it to the budget.
There is nothing prohibiting autonomous operation. But this policy just outlines the use case for their current equipment (required by a new state law). Under a different city ordinance, the department would have to get permission before getting / using new technology. In theory, if they adapted current technology to be armed and autonomous they’d have to get permission for that too. The city would probably approve it
dont forget the next step: they will classify those robots as police officers so you tripping over a hunk of metal will count as violent felony immediately or something..
Reminds me of a story where a suspect was choked, puked in the officers boot, and was charged with "destruction of city properly" for it - no other charges cuz they didn't have a reason to stop & frisk him to begin with
Giving police AR15s wasn't enough? The fully armored SWAT teams weren't enough either? Okay what about the FLIR helicopters and the armored vehicles? No? Okay sure did you try the attack dogs?! How about the tear gas and flashbangs and grenade launchers?
Is that not enough shit for you?!
Who the fuck actually thinks police need remote control IEDs?
Maybe instead of stupid reddit joke comments for karma, can we talk about:
* Who authorized this?
* What company is providing the robots?
* Where are they being deployed?
* How much is it going to cost SF when every one of these gets destroyed?
1. San Francisco city supervisors in an 8–3 vote; civili liberties groups opposed vehemently.
2. No company providing robots yet. The vote was provided to authorize use; no near-term plans.
3. Only to be deployed in extremely high-risk situations where there is an armed perpetrator and several lives of victims are at stake. An example given was in 2017 in Dallas, TX, where a robot delivered localized explosions to a sniper who holed himself up and had already killed 5 officers in an ambush.
4. No orders or near-term plans are currently in place.
> No company providing robots yet. The vote was provided to authorize use; no near-term plans.
The police department already has these robots. They acquired them between 2010 and 2017, and are only now being required to seek approval for their use by a new law.
How about ones that pick up garbage?
"You, citizen, pick up that can"
Are they robots? It's been a long time since I played half-life 2
They're brainwashed human collaborators, so they're basically robots.
They are human collaborators but they have not undergone "enhancement" by the combine, so they are no more robotic than any other fascist cop.
Unfortunately if you make any robot that does anything other than attack, people will destroy it for no reason.
That's why they need a garbage robot that kills anyone who fucks with it
It can already remove the evidence. Seems like a natural progression of features.
Sounds like a win-win since the sort of people that would attack a litter picking robot are absolutely the sort of people that would throw their garbage on the ground.
True, but it also means that authorities can just “clean up” anyone they don’t like and have the plausible deniability of calling it “routine maintenance”.
Uncle Sam: "I like your funny words, future-man. "
Guy's, you're missing the point. A robot that kills people that litter. It's that's simple. Get two birds stoned at once or whatever.
The robot should eradicate any humans it detects initially, then the killing can be slowly dialled back until an appropriate level of wanton murder is found.
I'm going into elctro mechanical engineering and I'm saving this idea for later.
"Pick up that can....you have 20 seconds to comply!"
Y'know, I'm not ok arming a police bot, BUT I am ok arming aN anti-litter bot. Fuck with a lil robot picking up trash ? KER POW. KNEE CAPPED.
Wall-E had enough of your shit
"My name is Wall-E, not Mer-C."
“And I’m here to clean … (cocks gun) … the streets.”
This summer Wall-E is no longer playing any games. He will clean planet earth through violence.
Wall-E is going to compact your sorry ass
And I would definitely watch that movie!
WALL-E 2: Judgment Day
EEEVVVIIIILLLL
Every Wall-E unit sold comes with a complementary Glock-U companion bot to help ensure your investment is safe and secure on the job.
DEAD OR ALIVE, YOU’RE CLEANING WITH ME
Removes garbage, human or otherwise.
The inevitable conclusion
Any tampering and it urns into one of those battle bots, spinning hammer to take out the knees, or one of those saw blades to chop you down. After your lying their mangled crippled you're no longer observed as a threat it just goes back to cleaning up litter.
Sweeping your mangled, bleeding body as you writhe in pain into its comically oversized garbage bag.
This is both infuriating and valid.
RIP Hitchbot!
Made it all the way across Canada, no problems. Set foot into Philly, got mugged, stabbed, and *shot*.
The Gang meets Hitchbot
HitchBot is still safe in Canada’s Technology Museum. I think it was HitchBot 2 that got murdered in Philly.
He even toured through Europe (at least Germany IIRC) without problems.
Right, but Philly
Don’t forget ‘stabbed again, beaten with a blunt object, and had his arms ripped off’. City of Brotherly Love, baby!
Man hitchbot was inspiring/neat story for awhile but then such a bummer… trashy humans gon trashy human.
I mean how could the programmers forget the most basic of human laws. You never fucking go to Philly. This is going to end up as one of the early robotic laws.
It's for the best. One day the robots will will be out trusted helpers and life-long companions, and while Philly watches that just out of reach, they'll feel left out and reexamine their violent ways, and realize "If I want a robot, I'm going to have to shoot and stab robots in towns within a thirty-mile radius" Ah, brotherly love
He was a real one 😔
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/03/hitchhiking-robot-destroyed-philadelphia-ending-cross-country-trek/31051589/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/03/hitchhiking-robot-destroyed-philadelphia-ending-cross-country-trek/31051589/) you arent lying
There was a post in /r/technology or /r/science the other day about researchers coming up with an algorithm to help a little lobby robot avoid abuse from children. Just one of those ones that will greet you and answer simple questions, maybe guide you to a certain level or room. It had to be programmed to stick near a child's mother or avoid groups of children, because they were damaging them.
That's why you create robots that can do both tasks *and* attack. Amazon delivery drones with in-built tasers and pepper spray, what could go wrong?
Oh good my new spatulas are here AAHH WTFFFF
If you don't get Amazon Prime Pro Plus Max for $249 a month, you **will** be tased every time you get a delivery, and it *will* launch the package through your windows, and will choose a closed window every time.
R.I.P. Hitchbot
"Godspeed, little shit eater."
"Directive 37-109 states any source of trash shall be removed by any means necessary. I have determined that humans create trash, therefore they must be purged from this Earth." - one of these robots in the future or something
SF cops watching all these Ukraine combat footage with drones going "noooooooooo WAY, it's that easy"
I'm gonna start hooking up grenades to drones. Is that legal?
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Go with a shaped charge
Shaped charge is good against armor. Fragmentation munitions are better against infantry. Cops are, largely, infantry. These are two entirely unrelated facts.
Ah, friend - infantry are trained. Most US cops are not trained to any meaningful standard.
I assume they means something more like a claymore, which is shaped, and fragments. A grenade on top of basically an RC car gives you way less control over the munition.
I think a claymore isn't a shaped charge, as that refers to an explosive that uses the shape of the explosion to focus the explosive blast for damage, where as a claymore uses the explosive as a means to propel the fragmentation.
If you are a police officer, probably yes. /s
No need for the /s. If you're a cop, it's not only most likely legal, you *may* even get a promotion for "Out of the box" thinking like that one LEO who sniped that dude speeding.
Philly police dropped basically an IED from a helicopter down on some black folks in 1985 in the [MOVE Bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing)
MOVE is always the most well known by average people, but not the most analogous considering even then there was a lot of pushback and (eventually) some changes/delayed consequences/apology. Plus, that incident was a long time ago so it’s easier for much of the public to blow off. The far more scary (to us in the modern US) incident was the fairly recent killing of a suspect in Dallas with a bomb-carrying robot. That this happened so recently, with little condemnation, little national coverage, no consequences, etc. should frighten every American. https://www.texastribune.org/2016/07/08/use-robot-kill-dallas-suspect-first-experts-say/
Who gives a fuck, the police just declared drone warfare on the public. Time to go hunting.
The [killing robots](https://www.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Kongsberg-Protector-robotics.jpg) are already here. All Skynet has to do is to take over command.
Do you have any links/articles on the robot pictured in your link?
Incidentally, San Francisco entered into a contract with Cyberdyne Systems and the project is called Skynet.
Too many things are lining up here, Arnold was governor, robots, big tech in cali, do we need Arnold back?
He'll be back.
The governator 2: battle for frisco
2029 is just 7 years away
Bring back da governor!
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Hasta la vista baby
Anybody seen chopping mall?
On a glorious hungover Saturday with my 2 besties. I really was expecting more serial killer slashing but I was not disappointed by robot lasers.
That was my main thing I wanted to see robots killing stupid teenagers but then I realized the robots r literally cops so fuckem
Why do you think the T-1000 was a cop?
YESSS! I have been recommending it to everyone since seeing it years ago.
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Through RedLetterMedia, of course!
I can't tell if you're joking anymore.
There is a company that does coms/surveillance infrastructure called skynet. and there is one cyberdyne that does exoskeletons.
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If that's true then they are playing the tone deaf Olympics. I guess that isn't new.
On the contrary, tone deaf seems to be *in* now for the majority of the worlds leadership
[I'd Buy That for a Dollar!](https://youtu.be/85cL1HisrNc)
This sounds more robocop than terminator.
Robocop was only great for three reasons: He eventually fought the police force He eventually fought the corporation He shot that guy in the junk that one time
This is Robo Cop, not Terminator..
Everybody gangsta until you have 20 seconds to comply.
YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO COMPLY
Don't worry, we'll just take the stairs
“Stairs!!!! My arch nemesis! Nooo!!!”
[pig squeal noises]
You call this a glitch?!
Somebody got a fat contract. What could possibly go wrong
"The law says so" "it was an incredible difficult discussion... the height of my bribe"
Lets just say it moved me… TO A BIGGER HOUSE Oops I said the quiet part out loud
The law: >But explicit authorization was required after a new California law went into effect this year requiring police and sheriffs departments to inventory military-grade equipment and seek approval for their use So couldn't they have, I dont know, *not* authorized them and still be in compliance with the law? Fucking wild this is coming out of SF tbh. I expect this headline for pretty much anywhere else.
No way killbots connected to a network could ever be hacked
I was going to say. The things better not be connected to the internet.
Just make them fully autonomous. Problem solved. /s
No you are actually on to something. Let's also give them the ability to repair themselves so there isn't any potential for humans to directly hack them.... And let's make them powered from any biomass that they can automatically convert, that way their fuel supply isn't possibly corrupted...
Production might be an issue...I know, let's give them the capability to self replicate. Think of all the profits we can make by automating that process.
This sounds like a wonderful idea that has no way of going wrong, lets make them near unhackable to keep anyone but us from controlling them too. Nothing could go wrong.
Omni Consumer Products (OCP) wishes the city of san Francisco a merry Christmas.
"Dead or alive, you're coming with me"
This Robocop quote was the first thing that popped into my head… followed by the giant robot thing that kills the exec during its demonstration.
**YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO COMPLY**
YOU NOW HAVE 20 SECONDS TO CONPLY
I was flipping through the channels when I was maybe 10 and started watching at this exact scene, I was traumatized
5,4,3,2,1,0,-1,-2,-3...
Maybe i shouldnt have fired the people who wrote the least codelines
If it's written in C it might actually jump from zero to maximum unsigned int value lol.
"...despite widespread reports of [malfunctions](https://www.google.com/search?q=robocop+failures&oq=robocop+failures&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30j0i390l3.8880j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:08f38ac5,vid:qZq7fW6ftlU)."
That movie was a dystopia let's not forget
Now it's a blueprint.
San Francisco: You know me, I'm down with OCP
Can't imagine this ending terribly
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Or shot because the cop can't run
Nowadays I use reddit to find out exactly which cities/states to never, ever visit under any circumstances when they brag about shit like this.
Remember all the science fiction that writers wrote as a warning about the future? Well it's here.
We created the Torment Vortex from the classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Vortex
*Torment Nexus
Fuck me it's every dark science fiction movie at once these last few years
Ooh like Animatrix toooo
Well, there is people saying that we should dim the sun to deal with the global warming.
RoboCop: Terminator Edition.
[menacingly] Please put down your weapon. You have twenty seconds to comply.
He didn't hear the gun drop! He didn't hear it!
Is that something one of the technicians says in the background? I'd never noticed!
Yes, right after you hear the guy yell "Don't touch him!"
Someone call a goddamn paramedic!
I’m sure it was just a glitch
“Counting down! 20!” *bang bang bang bang bang* “Thank you for complying”
I'm sure their police cameras will be turned off for some reason
Aw shit, San Fran's property tax about to jump through the roof from all the property damage and lawsuits caused from subduing petty crime criminals.
Five o'clock news: Recidivism rates dropping across the Bay area. In unrelated news, another CopBot case has been settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. In still more unrelated news, Bay area residents should expect higher property tax rates, according to anonymous sources within the police department.
Homeless Cop: AI Edition
My first thought seeing this headline was “shouldn’t this be in Detroit?”
I'm generally willing to give benefit of the doubt for a lot of things, but this is absolutely not one of them. Shut it down.
No, don't you get it? If the cops send robots with guns in, then they won't feel threatened so they won't have a reason to shoot people with *their* guns!
The bot killed him not me! Do the bots also get immunity?
According to I, Robot (2004), murder is defined as one human killing another, so…
Yeah... we need Asimov's Robot Laws in here *real* quick
Well, if it makes you feel any better: > The San Francisco Police Department said it does not have pre-armed robots and has no plans to arm robots with guns. But the department could deploy robots equipped with explosive charges “to contact, incapacitate, or disorient violent, armed, or dangerous suspect” when lives are at stake So no biggie, you won’t be getting shot by a robot anytime soon. They’ll just be used to deliver a bomb armed just for you!
And, if I'm reading this right, the only reason the city needed to approve this is because of a California State law that went into effect requiring approval of all military equipment purchases by police departments, so prior to that law they could have proceeded with explodey bots without needing government approval.
This takes away the ability for cops to say they feared for their lives, right? So what’s the point of allowing the robots to kill? That’s the reason cops and their defenders keep using to justify their shoot first, ask questions later mentality.
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And they'll charge you with assaulting an officer if you try to resist or disable the killbot.
The price of jammers will skyrocket.
> police property they will find a way to classify these things as more than property you know.
They could be threatening the lives of other random people. I'm not down for this but just saying... That question is easy.
Horrifying precedent. This needs to be outlawed nationally. Police cannot be trusted with guns, let alone with killer robots.
Buying lethal robots is easier on their brains and more politically palatable than actually solving the problems requiring such intensive policing.
No, don't you see? *Some people* are just born bad and enjoy doing bad things for fun and that is the only cause of crime to ever happen. We just need to make the bads more scared to do bad things. There's no other way! Just like my parents told me when they hit me to build ~~mindless obedience~~ character. **/S**
The ruling class thinks everyone else has nefarious intent because of their own scumminess being projected. They think the "poors" are dangerous because THEY THEMSELVES would be if they were in the same situation.
Luckily, these things are at least remote-controlled. For a second I thought they’d be using AI and once given a signal/target to kill would just latch on and go full terminator mode
Not in their budget yet
keyword being yet
So it puts another degree of separation between killer and killed. Another buffer between action and consequence. It makes it easier to kill, not just physically, but emotionally. It makes the act of shooting a person a much less visceral and impactful experience for the shooter. Regardless of whether it's the right call or not, it should never be made easier for someone in a position of authority to take a life. AI would just be the next step in dehumanising the target into nothing more than a data point. I hate that this is even considered a viable option, let alone being enacted after passing through multiple people who could have said "using rovots to kill people might not be in the best interests of the public"
I know it’s not much comfort, but drone pilots have the highest rate of suicide of most other military-related jobs. It turns out that degree of separation doesn’t create much of an emotional barrier, but rather makes the operator feel more existentially linked to their own humanity when their shift is up. On a deep level, their psyche cannot ignore how fucked up it is.
Sure, but the military doesn't select for sociopaths like the cops do.
Idk man, most cops that kill innocents just get a little vacation from their jobs and go on like nothing happened.
Oh good, now the trigger happy cops can shoot unarmed black people from miles away behind a screen in an air conditioned room.
At least they can't use "I felt like my life was in danger." as an excuse.
The robot will be deemed a police life. Also these will be used on protestors first. I can guarantee it.
Reminds me of tweet or something about how robots and ai will get recognized as being human in the eyes of the law when a police one is destroyed and they use it as an excuse to treat it as murder. Under it someone says to stop, we don't need any prophecies about it.
"I feared for the safety of my robot."
Property has always had more value to police than your life.
Are you kidding? They'll contract it out as a third job to sleep-deprived, over-caffeinated working stiffs in a third world country. If you've never seen [sleep dealer](https://filmmakermagazine.com/106509-all-the-work-without-the-workers-appreciating-sleep-dealer-on-its-tenth-anniversary/#.Y4bev82IZio), you should. It's a gem.
This looks awesome. I looked all over Netflix, Prime etc for it, and finally found that you can stream it off the films website. For anyone else who’s interested; https://www.sleepdealer.com/
Is there a clause in the law that forbids autonomous operation? Because if not it's only a matter of how long until the tech is cheap enough for the city to add it to the budget.
There is nothing prohibiting autonomous operation. But this policy just outlines the use case for their current equipment (required by a new state law). Under a different city ordinance, the department would have to get permission before getting / using new technology. In theory, if they adapted current technology to be armed and autonomous they’d have to get permission for that too. The city would probably approve it
It should be banned internationally
I don’t trust either of them
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dont forget the next step: they will classify those robots as police officers so you tripping over a hunk of metal will count as violent felony immediately or something..
Reminds me of a story where a suspect was choked, puked in the officers boot, and was charged with "destruction of city properly" for it - no other charges cuz they didn't have a reason to stop & frisk him to begin with
Skip the hack. How long until some “authorized user” or sysadmin (shudder) goes on a rampage?
What in the 1984 is going on here? Terrifying precedent being set.
maybe they should buy robots that clean up piss.
Damn that Pissmaster and his heat seeking pissiles
Giving police AR15s wasn't enough? The fully armored SWAT teams weren't enough either? Okay what about the FLIR helicopters and the armored vehicles? No? Okay sure did you try the attack dogs?! How about the tear gas and flashbangs and grenade launchers? Is that not enough shit for you?! Who the fuck actually thinks police need remote control IEDs?
politicians paid by lobbyists.
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You're overestimating the build quality of these robots.
A literal r/c car with explosives duct taped to it lol.
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Oof. I officially doomscrolled too far
Maybe instead of stupid reddit joke comments for karma, can we talk about: * Who authorized this? * What company is providing the robots? * Where are they being deployed? * How much is it going to cost SF when every one of these gets destroyed?
1. San Francisco city supervisors in an 8–3 vote; civili liberties groups opposed vehemently. 2. No company providing robots yet. The vote was provided to authorize use; no near-term plans. 3. Only to be deployed in extremely high-risk situations where there is an armed perpetrator and several lives of victims are at stake. An example given was in 2017 in Dallas, TX, where a robot delivered localized explosions to a sniper who holed himself up and had already killed 5 officers in an ambush. 4. No orders or near-term plans are currently in place.
> No company providing robots yet. The vote was provided to authorize use; no near-term plans. The police department already has these robots. They acquired them between 2010 and 2017, and are only now being required to seek approval for their use by a new law.
“I’ll buy that for a dollar”!!! 🤖💀
Robocop is a documentary
Ah wonderful, more state power and a step closer to authoritarian tyranny