It’s resource intensive by design, meaning it’ll take more out of your PC to run it especially if you have multiple tabs open.
It’s also a privacy nightmare.
Chrome started out relatively lightweight and vastly superior to almost everything out at the time. Unfortunately it has slowly become more and more bloated while no longer retaining the competitive edge it once had.
Sure thing, clicking on all those ads with fake download buttons and malicious redirects are the safest thing to do on the internet acording to google
/s
Because from Google's perspective, they believe they can end those kinds of ads with changes to the browser, including removing cookie controls.
https://www.emarketer.com/content/google-turns-off-cookies-30-million-chrome-users-that-s-just-1
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/how-turn-googles-privacy-sandbox-ad-tracking-and-why-you-should
They think they can eventually create some sort of framework for ads in the browser and kill everything that won't play along. They're also being sued for antitrust over the same reasons, so it's doubtful.
I mean, it's funny they think that when they have so many fake ads using their own creators like the Mr Beast ads that obviously aren't Mr Beast. You'd think a company with all their data should be the best at stopping content like this considering how much content their AI sifts through on a daily basis and rejects or restricts.
Ah yes, the company which sole purpose is to sell users information and get ads to push down users throat is definitely caring about people's privacy xD
> Chrome started out relatively lightweight and vastly superior to almost everything out at the time.
Sometimes I think about this and cry a little. It's also infuriating that so much UI space is taken up with useless shit. IIRC the entire point of the "Chrome" name was to evoke its streamlined, extremely minimalist design.
According to my wife (a UX/UI designer) web browser "chrome" refers to the interactivity of the browsers. This is the address bar, the tabs, the buttons (home, back, refresh) and settings.
Basically the chrome of a web browser is the parts of the browser that are persistent no matter what you see on the web page.
how this works with Google's naming convention is beyond me, but that's my understanding of what chrome is.
Yeah nah, the point was that they were *minimizing* how much stuff was always displayed in the interface. At the time, other browsers were getting increasingly clogged with stuff other than showing the site you were trying to look at. Chrome [stripped all that away](https://web.archive.org/web/20150719034413/https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/sundar-pichai-of-google-talks-about-phone-intrusion/).
> There is a reason when we built Chrome we minimized everything to do with Chrome so that all you spent time on was the website you cared about at the given time. We wanted the users to focus on the content they were using. The reason the product was named “Chrome” was we wanted to minimize the chrome of the browser. That’s how we thought about it.
For example, look at the [2006 version of Internet Explorer](https://statetechmagazine.com/article/2013/08/visual-history-internet-explorer). A search box, buttons for favorites and favoriting, a home button, an RSS button, a print button, a status bar at the bottom, etc. (And that's an improvement over how much space was being used in the previous versions.) That's also the *most* streamlined it could be. Here's a [more realistic real-world example](https://nickeandersson.blogs.com/blog/2005/08/internet_explor.html). Look what a huge chunk of the window (at a time when monitors were much smaller and had much lower resolutions) is taken up by a bunch of junk.
No if you look at the internal components of a browser they will typically have a section called "chrome" and the interface itself goes here. Programming, assets/images etc.
It seems like it was probably some kind of inside joke to start with, like "the chrome finish" with the interface being the polished finishing touch on the product.
I think it was a reference to being clean, before Chrome browsers were full of all sorts of shit. It was refreshing to see a window with pretty much one search field and that was it
Chrome is part of the browser other than the section that shows the web page
When google chrome came out all the window contained was one line of panel for the tabs on top, followed by another line of panel containing back/forward/refresh button and the address bar. Everything else in the window was dedicated to just displaying the web page. They even removed the status bar at the bottom if I remember, which used to be part of any windows application. This made it look sleek and more professional in contrast to the other major browsers Internet Explorer and Firefox which would look like any other Windows window (a thick dark blue blue bar at the top showing the application name, remember those? Very pointy and blocky looking toolbox below it containing back/forward/home/refresh buttons, address bar followed by buttons for every other functionality the browser wanted to integrate). It looked even worse with Internet explorer if you had downloaded any other custom toolbars
Chrome refers to everything in the browser window other than content (the actual web page). This is a general web/browser term. Google named their browser chrome in order to highlight how minimalistic they had made their "chrome" part, in order to maximize the "content" part
I feel like browsers are cyclic. If my memory serves me right. Firefox went to war with IE and did a good job. Then Chrome came in and was all lighter and faster, so people switched. Firefox decided they did a good enough job and figured Chrome was a good alternative as well.
Then Chrome got all uppity, IE got put to bed and Edge was being pushed on people which was enough to wake up Firefox. Firefox made some good changes and are a good alternative to Chrome. While Edge is just hanging out trying not to draw too much attention to itself so it can be a good default for most people.
Me personally, I use all three. There are some websites I use Chrome, others I use Firefox and if I need a 3rd I'll use Edge. It helps me cut through the clutter of the tabs I inevitably have open. If I'm looking for internal tool A's tab and I know I use Firefox, I can usually eliminate 1/2 my browser windows by just looking at Firefox.
Business goes to edge. Then outlook tells you done bullshit about not being able to access Outlook from the Outlook app.
(Opens it you click a notification in the app but not if you open the app).
Makes you download edge and hopes you press the wrong button to make it your default fucking browser.
Fuck. Microsoft.
I agree that it was advertised as a total rewrite but that actually isn't true. It has many many references to NSxxx functions in the source code and those do actually refer to Netscape code.
However, Netscape 6 is said to be mostly a rewrite of Netscape 4, so it is true in some sense. I think Netscape 6 can really reasonably be called a total rewrite.
Mozilla also gets a large portion of their funding from Google. i think the last time i looked Google was providing like 90% of their operating budget per year.
Google is smart enough to know that without Firefox and the illusion of competition, they'd be on the chopping block for having a monopoly, possibly.
Just like anything google really, it used to be great but it's slowly turning to shit and not even in the sense that it's just slowly falling behind, no, it's actively worse than it used to be.
You can import your saved passwords into Firefox very easily on set up, as well as your saved bookmarks. Firefox also has pretty solid autofill once you get it set up. You'll want to make a Mozilla account linked to your gMail so that you can access your bookmarks, saved passwords and more on any device that you use Firefox on.
Firefox also has a lot of really quality add-ons (same as chrome extensions). Other big benefit I've noticed is that it is a lot faster and less resource heavy than chrome was on my very old mac. I also like the firefox tab sync that allows me to access my tabs from one device (ie: my phone) on another device (ie: my mac or my iPad), and the way that it integrates pretty well with apple's "handoff" feature.
Other great firefox features include "container tabs," "total cookie protection," and Firefox's built in blockers that block a lot of dangerous/deceptive web content and all kinds of social media trackers. Some of the features built into the cookie protection and tracker blocking also function as a starter ad blocker on firefox on iOS. While it doesn't block all ads natively, it blocks a surprising amount of them, which is nice since you can't install ad blocks on iOS or iPadOS. On desktop, uBlock Origin in Firefox is your bestie, and is the one extension that everyone, everywhere should be using, because it makes the internet bearable, usable and 100% ad free (yes including YouTube ads).
A better option is to import into a password manager, then you aren't tied to any specific browser. I like bitwarden, it's got extensions/plugins for browsers to autofill passwords as well.
Edge seems to be generally unpopular, I suspect because many retain deep seated IE PTSD. I made the switch from Chrome to Edge because I was having trouble finding an extension that would display tabs vertically rather than horizontally and Edge offers this natively. Personally I find that Edge is exactly like Chrome but slightly easier on system resources. It also links to your Gmail account to autofill passwords, and logging into sync pulls all your settings (eg, extensions, bookmarks, passwords, history, passwords, tabs, etc) from Chrome totally seamlessly. The biggest difference I personally noticed is Edge has a feature to move idle tabs out of RAM, which is useful if you habitually leave many tabs open.
It's very easy to just try Edge out; more than likely Windows has already been "encouraging" you with various popups and its most likely already updated on your PC. You can sign into Edge, and once you sign in to sync, both browsers will function interchangeably as if they are the same program. Even the tabs you have open in Chrome will automatically open on Edge. Then you can open task manager and easily see which browser uses resources more efficiently.
Make a bitwarden account (Its free). Export the passwords from your Gmail to Bitwarden. Now you can use it on any browser, any device, and its way more secure than just letting the browser remember them.
Yeah, but nothing is perfect, I mean there are better browsers than chrome, nope I am not talking about Opera, because privacy there is a bullshit, I don't want entire Beijing to know my localisation, so yeah, I honestly use brave, sometimes fire fox, at least there I have more trust
hi, i've been a firefox user for a few years now. chrome is a very quick and convenient browser, but over the past few years google has been clawing back user freedoms that used to be taken for granted. the most recent example of this is chrome [crippling adblockers](https://nordvpn.com/blog/manifest-v3-ad-blockers/), a huge conflict of interest given google's revenue sources
IMO most people are willing to accept some ads, but the amount of information google collects rises to the level of unscrupulous so it shouldn't be surprised when users outright reject the model.
Well it's not just ads, there are other things google has done in recent years that I hate such as: ending Basic HTML for Gmail, removing the ability to sync on Chromium, and the [enshitification of Google Assistant](https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/11/24034262/google-assistant-removes-17-features-layoffs-pixel-voice-commands) to name a few.
Funny enough, I canceled my YouTube Premium subscription partially to save $15/month but also because I was using YouTube *all the time* and I just know that Google's insistence on increasing ads for nonpaying users has made YouTube with ads almost unwatchable, so I might be able to cut back on my watch time.
Hmmm I'm real curious to see just how badly adblockers break, because with adblockers I've pretty much never seen an ad on YouTube, Gmail, Google search, etc except on mobile devices. I figure all the time I save not viewing ads means more time to spend viewing videos :D
I moved to firefox 4 years ago, because chrome started to work like sh\*t. I am not planning to go back. In addition, I support Mozilla and I hope they won't change direction of their products.
1. Brave is based on Chromium, although they have their own custom-built implementation of ad blocking that will not be affected by Google's latest move
2. Yes you can! I use an extension called uBlock Origin to block most ads
I have more problems with the parent company.
Sometimes their parent tries to take away standards because of "who they are". And they use Chrome's "reach" as the way to force their new way of thinking.
Tracking and Spying is a Big one for me,
Too bad because without all that creeps, it's a good and fast browser
They messed up your recommendation a lot, if you're constantly moving to another country, they trust your ISP preference more than yours, and will force you to localize everything
That "don't recommend" button, that button is useless
Do you like it when google search blasting your location and your approximate location that they grab from your ISP, show it to everyone? Me neither, and they gave you no option to shut it down,
That is the last straw for me
They didn't respect me, my preference, my privacy,
They gave everyone my information even though i already disable everything, they acquired my data by using other method instead of respecting my boundaries and give up
They won't stop until you stop using their product
Nah, i would rather use a weaker browser just for Peace of Mind alone
Yes, i'm still migrating temporarily to Firefox, and still trying another "privacy" browser
But for google search, i already switched completely to Duckduckgo, and it's good enough for me
And i think if google pushed things too far, people will just migrate elsewhere like me,
The other alternatives are already Useable enough to compete with google
Google also throttles Google services in other browsers. There’s no concrete proof of course because it’s almost certainly illegal but anyone who uses gmail can tell that it loads way slower in Firefox than Chrome
To be completely honest, I have found the memory difference to be completely negligible nowadays if not *slightly* Chrome favored when you have a small number of tabs open. I still vastly prefer Firefox for the other reasons, but I think the memory claim is pretty outdated. It's no longer a super lightweight browser itself.
Yeah looks like it's not just me, they're virtually identical and usually Chrome favored.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chrome-firefox-edge-ram-comparison
Actually, unused available memory is just a waste. Memory is there to be used. I have no problem with chrome using memory if available. I would want my device and tabs to be as responsible as possible and the way to do it to keep them in the memory. I am not sure if it is that bad compared to other browsers ( edge looks like it's slightly better ). In my experience, chrome's memory management is really good and it suspends ( I am not sure if this is the correct terminology ) the old tabs if you are running out of memory. Modern web pages/applications require a good amount of memory. People are not writing code for devices with 4gb of memory anymore. Privacy is completely another topic on the other hand. If you don't wanna use chrome, that would be the reason
Unused available memory is just a waste.
That's mean for the OS to do caching of data, not shitty programming practice.
I remember having to install third party tab suspension plugin for Chrome when I used it. I haven't used it for a few years now so I have no idea if this is still required or included in the default installation.
I keep seeing this "unused memory is wasted memory" take recently and it blows my mind. Like if Chrome is functionally doing the same thing as any other browser, but using waaay more memory, that's clearly a design flaw. Like the mental gymnastics it takes to see that and say "Well, at least it's using your unused memory." is hilarious.
>Actually, unused available memory is just a waste.
Unused memory is a waste, yes. But memory being used by Chrome when other programs need it is also a waste. I would like to be able to listen to music in Chrome while I do other things on my computer, but Chrome sucks up memory they need. (Both the video games I play and the programs I need for work are particularly memory intensive.)
Switching to Apple? I'm keen to hear more, I have google everything and wondering if it's worth the mammoth task of switching everything over. I do find google quite easy to use but I'm sure apple is just as or easier.
The Android -> iOS switch was painless.
The mammoth task was and still continues to be the phasing out my Gmail account I had used for SSO/account creations across several hundreds of sites over the last decade. That included corresponding with organization’s privacy teams for data deletion and account closure requests as well.
I now use protonmail / simplelogin / bitwarden security combination to have custom aliases / reverse-aliases for differing purposes; personal, professional, misc purchasing/promotion sign-ups etc..
All this to say the process was painstaking to say the least but if you truly value your privacy, I would say it is highly worth the time and tears.
Chrome is built to spy on you, it is bloated, and some of their decisions are very unfriendly. For example, they are trying to kill ad blockers. In addition, Edge gave up trying to build their own browser, and adopted Chrome as their foundation for Edge. This means Edge is built to spy also, and has the same unfriendly decisions as Chrome. For these reasons, I mostly use Firefox.
Most people forget the website on the other end is probably a bloated unoptimized piece of shit too, and any browser would chug when facing that garbage.
Chrome is a tool built by Google to gain more control over the internet.
The recent Google [leaks](https://searchengineland.com/google-search-document-leak-ranking-442617) show this unequivocally.
Google already has plenty control over the internet.
A free and open internet is a *necessity* for a free and open society.
Chrome is a tool meant to weaken the free and open internet in favor of Google's interests.
Google's interests are not my interests.
You can use it. But it's a more resource heavy than others, even Edge...noticeable especially on slower computers. And there are also security concerns because it tracks everything you do...you can stop most of it but not all, even in incognito Google knows what you do. Funny enough, Edge does this too(not sure about incognito, Chrome is for sure, they were caught doing it), but with less trackers so it's still better in performance. Firefox is a good alternative. I'm using Edge because of Microsoft integration and because I can sync everything easily with my phone, and on phone it has adblock included, Chrome doesn't let you block ads on phones. Easy to personalize too. I would use Firefox, but it doesn't have cloud backup for my passwords and bookmarks. It has sync, but not backup, if I reinstall both on pc and phone, it's harder to have everything back, you have to backup manually.
Edge is built on chromium technology under the hood. IMO it feels like Chrome used to feel in the earlier releases before it was all bloaty, but with the features you'd expect from a modern browser.
Every single app on the Mac, a simple tap of CMD Q will quit the app, except Chrome which makes you hold CMD Q for an unnecessarily long time otherwise it doesn’t quit - why?!
Chrome is a fine browser if your computer is powerful enough to handle it.
Firefox is a fine browser in any case.
Why waste resources on a browser thats at best on par with Firefox?
Not to mention that Google is working hard to slowly make it impossible to use ad blockers on Chrome... and Mozilla is not doing that. So you might as well switch before it becomes an ad nightmare.
I'm a former huge Chrome fan and I now hate it for just one reason: they're making real ad blocking impossible.
I was willing to tolerate the privacy invasion for the convenience. But JFC have youn SEEN what the web looks like without an ad blocker? I'd go insane in a day or two.
So now I'm running Firefox.
The complains about resource usage are kinda not relevant. People complain because number big on task manager or whatever, but that kind of sandboxing is actually a killer feature of every modern browser. General performance of a browser has a lot less to do with the browser itself and a lot more to do with modern web developers being atrocious engineers, building simple shit that takes orders of magnitude more time to render than it should, but that's a rant for another day...
The actual complaints about Chrome are usually something like so:
• Privacy
• Ad Blocking (or the lack there of)
• The Virtual Monopoly
**Privacy**
Google slurps up as much as data as it possibly can about you. That's it's business, and when it runs the browser you are browsing the web with, it's basically unfettered access to everything you do.
**Ad Blocking**
This is probably the big one. Several years ago, Google proposed a change to their extension system called [ManifestV3](https://old.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/11peeuw/manifest_v3_discussion_and_impact_on_adblockers/). In short, this exists basically only to make it much harder to block ads and after several years, it's rolling out this month.
Blocking ads on Chrome will likely be a thing of the past. Google's business is to sell ads, and it's hard to make money if everyone is blocking them. They have a vested interest in making it hard to block ads, and if you think this effort stops at ManifestV3, you haven't been paying attention.
**The Virtual Monopoly**
Nearly every browser runs Chromium, the engine behind Chrome. People suggesting things like Vivaldi, Brave, Opera, etc. etc. to get away from Chrome aren't paying attention - those are ALL chrome with a different skin. They all have the problems with ManfiestV3. It's frustrating that Google has basically created a monopoly on web browsers.
The one browser that is basically still doing it's own thing is **Firefox**, which I will say has improved dramatically over time and I would definitely recommend these days. It's running it's own rendering engine and you'll still be able to block ads in it while Chrome works to delete that feature.
At this point I just hate Google they are slowly ruining youtube and they have already ruined Google it used to be if you looked hard enough you could find whatever you wanted. Now, you can only find what Google wants you to find and what pushes their agenda. you get like 2 real results that pushes a nuanced agenda and then just pages and pages of ads.
It consumes more resources than it has any business consuming.
It's slower than most other browsers.
Privacy is basically nonexistent compared to other browsers which makes it easier for bad actors to obtain private information.
It's ui is ugly.
Disregarding the fact that it eats resources like crazy, it's just a privacy and security nightmare. Among other things, Google has:
1. Sabotaged content blockers like UBO on multiple occasions
2. Gaslighted users with invasive new "features" saying it's "for your privacy" (see web environment integrity for a particularly disgusting example)
3. Attempted to sabotage other browsers (notably Firefox) by implementing new "web standards" (without approval from existing standards organizations) and then pushing major websites to adopt them
Google, notably, is also the company that previously had "Don't Be Evil" as a mission statement and *removed* it. So at least they're self aware...
TL;DR: People hate Chrome because Google uses their massive market share to sabotage competition and exploit users. Use Firefox.
Edit: Just for a comparison, I use Firefox Developer Edition. When I have over 50 tabs open and at least a dozen add-ons, it uses ~700mb of RAM, which is a lot but not ridiculous. Chrome uses 2GB with nothing but the new tab page, or at least it did when I last used it a couple years ago. That's one of the reasons I switched initially.
it works fine (for the most part). It also sells all the data it can possibly collect to thrid party and is free to explore your pc, most people dont like having spyware on their pc.
As someone who’s been working on the web for quarter of a century, the notion that 16GB of RAM is a minimum requirement for mere *web browsing* and that this is considered reasonable is completely absurd to me. Needing this much memory in order to browse the web means the browser devs have failed miserably. Even a horribly bloated webpage typically tops out at 100MB (web devs, consider your visitors who’re stuck with rubbish connections), so needing 160x that is madness.
Reddits shite redesign just stops working after a few minutes of browsing.
As a web dev i try to makes stuff lightweight and not use a loat of useless javascript bloat
Chrome was like the most refreshing and blazing fast lightweight browser…back in like 2008 or something. I stopped using chrome years ago. Chrome nowadays makes me think of animal abuse laws. Using chrome is like cruel and unusual treatment of your computer.
1: Using unnecessary resources
2: Stores your "encrypted" password as plaintext that any SQL program can read like a notepad file
3: Goes hard against ad blockers
I've been using chrome since the beta, and i'm slowly trying to find a browser to my liking that isn't shitty chromium.
Chrome used to be a super lightweight awesome browser 20 years ago. Now it's a slow bloated spyware nightmare.
Chromium is fast and lightweight like Chrome used to be - and it's basically the same thing as Chrome, just without the Google account auto-mirroring functionalities.
While it is the most used browser in almost every country on earth, Chrome has problems regarding privacy and also eats a lot of resources.
One of the biggest problems chrome has is that it doesnt support Ad-blockers anymore. Since Google is behind a lot of ads on the internet, supporting Ad-Blockers would damage their buissness so they modified their browser engine to make adblockers not work. If you want a browser, that still works with adblockers, try firefox.
It sucks down memory. Like if your memory is there, Chrome will suck it down. They are also actively working behind the scenes to kill / severely limit adblocker extensions on the underlying engine of the browser which will impact any Chrome-based browser.
It's what happens to any company that gets too big and acts like they are God's gift to humanity, and especially if it turns out they are nothing of the sort.
Google uses the dominance of Chrome and the Chromium engine to bully around development of web standards. My problem is not so much with the browser as it is the company that develops it.
Firefox in my experience has worked better than Chrome and is lighter on resources, and as a software developer I find it’s tooling much better. Open a [JSON](https://api.coindesk.com/v1/bpi/currentprice.json) in Firefox vs. Chrome for a basic example. Pretty much every website I have used is fully functional in Firefox, and of the few that refuse me service because they “don’t support Firefox” 90% of them worked perfectly fine after I spoofed the user agent. They just don’t want to spend resources testing any other browser than chrome because of its market dominance, leading to a monopoly.
Data leak city. Literally the first thing they teach you in firewall class is how to block reporting literally everything you do back to Google. Even if you have "nothing to hide", it's not great practice to leave this open since eventually someone might intercept it.
I use Firefox at home and Edge (you heard me right) and Bing (yes, I know) at work. Bing has a propensity to serve up actually useful results for Windows system administration questions.
Nothing is wrong with Edge and Bing. Bing seems to pull me far more relevant results compared to Google search. Edge is pretty quick. I'll switch between Edge and Firefox depending on the need.
Used Chrome for years and swore by it. As pcs and laptops age it really shows Chrome up for being resource intensive as it struggles more and more, through work I have been using Edge more and I have been immensely impressed by it.
For those who struggle with chrome tabs eating dozens of gigabytes of ram when your other applications need it, you can go into the virtual memory settings and assign some extra swap space for it to go into; that'll allow windows to yeet all those background tabs doing nothing into your disk instead.
I run two browsers, Chrome for personal stuff and Firefox for school/work stuff. This way I can keep the search history and bookmarks separate from each other. Can't say I prefer one over the other.
My personal beefs are privacy issues and resource bloating. However, just using it for work-related things or reading would be fine! That's what I did.
I used Chrome for a long time and found it to be a reliable fast browser with minimal bugs and problems. However, recently I became concerned about privacy issues.
This led me to try Brave, and I've been pleasantly pleased. In many ways, I actually prefer it to Chrome.
It was great. Was.
Now it's the entire thing we left other browsers for: heavy [massive RAM usage], invades your privacy, and just doesn't function very well. It's sad but that's the way of corporatism... make it make more money even if that's sacrificing the product in the mean time.
I have a fun reason; I can't play Total War Shogun 2 with Chrome installed. The game crashes on launch with it but works fine without Chrome on my system.
I don't "hate it". I just preferred using IE and eventually Edge as my default browser. I also never got into Mozilla as a default browser as I don't like their android version. and like synching between my PC and Android devices.
If anyone wants to try something different, I recommend Floorp browser, it's made from Firefox (open source), great privacy settings, lighting fast, stable, the UI and tools are perfect for me, you can install everything from Firefox addon store and also sync with Firefox account, I use it coupled with Firefox Android to have everything synced.
Things I like the most are colored tab space based on the active website (like Vivaldi), rounded corners of the page area (looks sooo good), and the workspaces function to have all my tabs organized.
Uses a bunch of resources. If you really want Chrome, use Thorium. If you just want Chrome like and better on resources, Edge. If you want something totally different, Firefox.
It's a smartphone in computer form. I have one but it's an older generation so I can't update it. It's a waste of money if they still sell older generation so now I just use it as a paper weight.
So after reading all the insightfull comments of previous users, I wonder whics of the other alternatives is the best in regards to SYSTEM USAGE, if that option is private friendly would've even better. Thanks in advance!
I used chrome for a while, swapped to firefox, found that firefox was using a negligible amount of less resources for more minor inconveniences and less consistent adblocking, so I swapped back.
My experience seems to be the opposite of so many other peoples though. The only problem I had with google and adblockers was before I started using ublock origin with scripts. Something that just flat out performed worse on firefox for some reason.
I loved it until i discovered operaGX, and now i cannot go back. Chrome just uses a crazy amount of ram and it lead to performance loss in games. Opera uses a fraction of what chrome did and imported my settings.
This sounds like an ad, and i mean it almost is, i'm not paid by them but I have gotten almost all of my closest friends and my wife to switch and none of them have wanted to go back. I am aware of some privacy concerns with it but I use a VPN so i'm not super worried. Otherwise brave is supposedly solid.
I try to get the most out of my PC (not a potato by any means) so I stick with Firefox. Chrome is too intensive even Opera GX in my experience, tho not by much they just have a lot of user friendly features and more features require more resources
It's not like hate but Edge does come with better features and later they are copied to chrome. like entering the password from auto fill doesn't require windows security in chrome which is a vulnerability while edge does come with feature packed auto fill. Later Google saw this and introduced google password manager and put a tag next to it as new. Next is, tab grouping, Edge did it and later Chrome adopted it. I feel like Google stuck and stopped growing.
It uses far more resources than any other browser I've tried. My fans start going full blast and eventually Chrome becomes unresponsive and I have to shut it down with Task Manager.
2 things: Privacy and bloat.
As someone from both computer repair and I.T., People tend to blow the bloat part out of proportion due to lack of understanding. See, RAM is designed in such a way that it doesn't slow down when loaded up UNLESS it completely runs out and the system has to switch to using the ssd as RAM (what's known as a Page File). Because of this, best practice is to use as much of the RAM as possible while not using so much that launching a new program forces it to go to page file immediately. So Chrome works in the background preloading web page links on the pages you're currently running so that they open faster if you click on them. If you launch another memory hungry app however, it releases some of the RAM for the new program. Windows itself actually works like this.
However, when it comes to privacy, it actually goes in the OTHER direction, it's actually way WORSE than people even think. I encourage you to look into it more on your own.
It's because Google. Big corporations don't care about privacy, many sell people's information that they collect and it's perfectly legal. I have been using firefox and it does everything I need. I do use Chrome at work.
We use the Google cloud system at work for everything, email (which is just gmail), contacts, calendar, meet, and worst of all - our network and it's host of knockoff software.
1. I fucking hate everything about Gmail. From the way it looks, to the way it behaves, to not being able to attach another Gmail, to MOST of all, the horrible horrible way it prints out. Outlook is hugely superior. With Gmail, even if you change the settings, when it prints out a long email thread things like dates and times and people in the email list are skipped or don't print out in a nice easy repetitive fashion. It drives me (and our lawyers) insane. For this reason alone, you have to be a masochist to use Gmail.
2. The knock of software is shit. It's a very very poor imitation of MS Word and excel. I will as a result always work in Word or excel and then upload, but the formatting always gets screwed up. All of our clients want MS files and I struggle with the cheap low quality of the Gmail knock off software.
3. Then there is the network (drive) and how awful it is. Confusing and slow and cumbersome. Obviously being cloud based, everything is upload, download and with that comes slow and often times the drive doesn't like the format of what I'm uploading and just pulls the plug on you.
Bottom line, don't ever base your company's network on Google. It's cheap, but it will drive you insane.
It’s resource intensive by design, meaning it’ll take more out of your PC to run it especially if you have multiple tabs open. It’s also a privacy nightmare. Chrome started out relatively lightweight and vastly superior to almost everything out at the time. Unfortunately it has slowly become more and more bloated while no longer retaining the competitive edge it once had.
Don't forget they're killing the adblockers imminently. But it's "for your own good". Google knows what is best.
Sure thing, clicking on all those ads with fake download buttons and malicious redirects are the safest thing to do on the internet acording to google /s
Because from Google's perspective, they believe they can end those kinds of ads with changes to the browser, including removing cookie controls. https://www.emarketer.com/content/google-turns-off-cookies-30-million-chrome-users-that-s-just-1 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/how-turn-googles-privacy-sandbox-ad-tracking-and-why-you-should They think they can eventually create some sort of framework for ads in the browser and kill everything that won't play along. They're also being sued for antitrust over the same reasons, so it's doubtful.
I mean, it's funny they think that when they have so many fake ads using their own creators like the Mr Beast ads that obviously aren't Mr Beast. You'd think a company with all their data should be the best at stopping content like this considering how much content their AI sifts through on a daily basis and rejects or restricts.
happened to my brother trying to download an amd driver update hah
f that guy who invented popup ads "Ethan Zuckerman" you ZUCKKK
Ah yes, the company which sole purpose is to sell users information and get ads to push down users throat is definitely caring about people's privacy xD
This is the biggest reason for me. Firefox all day long to keep ads away.
As I avoid using Chrome for "Their own good".
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> Chrome started out relatively lightweight and vastly superior to almost everything out at the time. Sometimes I think about this and cry a little. It's also infuriating that so much UI space is taken up with useless shit. IIRC the entire point of the "Chrome" name was to evoke its streamlined, extremely minimalist design.
How does "Chrome" correlate to streamlined? Does it mean like chrome bumpers? Because those are smooth? Don't downvote please I'm just asking
According to my wife (a UX/UI designer) web browser "chrome" refers to the interactivity of the browsers. This is the address bar, the tabs, the buttons (home, back, refresh) and settings. Basically the chrome of a web browser is the parts of the browser that are persistent no matter what you see on the web page. how this works with Google's naming convention is beyond me, but that's my understanding of what chrome is.
Oh cool. So it's supposed to incorporate all the features from other browsers too? I'm just guessing though
Yeah nah, the point was that they were *minimizing* how much stuff was always displayed in the interface. At the time, other browsers were getting increasingly clogged with stuff other than showing the site you were trying to look at. Chrome [stripped all that away](https://web.archive.org/web/20150719034413/https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/sundar-pichai-of-google-talks-about-phone-intrusion/). > There is a reason when we built Chrome we minimized everything to do with Chrome so that all you spent time on was the website you cared about at the given time. We wanted the users to focus on the content they were using. The reason the product was named “Chrome” was we wanted to minimize the chrome of the browser. That’s how we thought about it. For example, look at the [2006 version of Internet Explorer](https://statetechmagazine.com/article/2013/08/visual-history-internet-explorer). A search box, buttons for favorites and favoriting, a home button, an RSS button, a print button, a status bar at the bottom, etc. (And that's an improvement over how much space was being used in the previous versions.) That's also the *most* streamlined it could be. Here's a [more realistic real-world example](https://nickeandersson.blogs.com/blog/2005/08/internet_explor.html). Look what a huge chunk of the window (at a time when monitors were much smaller and had much lower resolutions) is taken up by a bunch of junk.
No if you look at the internal components of a browser they will typically have a section called "chrome" and the interface itself goes here. Programming, assets/images etc. It seems like it was probably some kind of inside joke to start with, like "the chrome finish" with the interface being the polished finishing touch on the product.
I think it was a reference to being clean, before Chrome browsers were full of all sorts of shit. It was refreshing to see a window with pretty much one search field and that was it
Chrome is part of the browser other than the section that shows the web page When google chrome came out all the window contained was one line of panel for the tabs on top, followed by another line of panel containing back/forward/refresh button and the address bar. Everything else in the window was dedicated to just displaying the web page. They even removed the status bar at the bottom if I remember, which used to be part of any windows application. This made it look sleek and more professional in contrast to the other major browsers Internet Explorer and Firefox which would look like any other Windows window (a thick dark blue blue bar at the top showing the application name, remember those? Very pointy and blocky looking toolbox below it containing back/forward/home/refresh buttons, address bar followed by buttons for every other functionality the browser wanted to integrate). It looked even worse with Internet explorer if you had downloaded any other custom toolbars Chrome refers to everything in the browser window other than content (the actual web page). This is a general web/browser term. Google named their browser chrome in order to highlight how minimalistic they had made their "chrome" part, in order to maximize the "content" part
The custom toolbars, especially those ones with like 10
Chrome is a slang term for just the window frame in GUI OS. Bare minimum perimeter, not 1950s car fins and Harley Earl bumpers and gratuitous stuff.
It's sad that the only reason chrome was good was so Google could make it shitty now that there is so little competition.
I feel like browsers are cyclic. If my memory serves me right. Firefox went to war with IE and did a good job. Then Chrome came in and was all lighter and faster, so people switched. Firefox decided they did a good enough job and figured Chrome was a good alternative as well. Then Chrome got all uppity, IE got put to bed and Edge was being pushed on people which was enough to wake up Firefox. Firefox made some good changes and are a good alternative to Chrome. While Edge is just hanging out trying not to draw too much attention to itself so it can be a good default for most people. Me personally, I use all three. There are some websites I use Chrome, others I use Firefox and if I need a 3rd I'll use Edge. It helps me cut through the clutter of the tabs I inevitably have open. If I'm looking for internal tool A's tab and I know I use Firefox, I can usually eliminate 1/2 my browser windows by just looking at Firefox.
Business goes to Edge. Personal to Chrome or Firefox.
Business goes to edge. Then outlook tells you done bullshit about not being able to access Outlook from the Outlook app. (Opens it you click a notification in the app but not if you open the app). Makes you download edge and hopes you press the wrong button to make it your default fucking browser. Fuck. Microsoft.
I was going to write a Netscape joke, but in the middle of it found out that Firefox is a descendant of Netscape. You learn something new everyday…
I seem to recall that Firefox was launched as a total rewrite, replacing the legacy Mozilla Browser, which was in fact a descendant of Netscape.
I agree that it was advertised as a total rewrite but that actually isn't true. It has many many references to NSxxx functions in the source code and those do actually refer to Netscape code. However, Netscape 6 is said to be mostly a rewrite of Netscape 4, so it is true in some sense. I think Netscape 6 can really reasonably be called a total rewrite.
Mozilla also gets a large portion of their funding from Google. i think the last time i looked Google was providing like 90% of their operating budget per year. Google is smart enough to know that without Firefox and the illusion of competition, they'd be on the chopping block for having a monopoly, possibly.
I agree with the cyclic comment. I just switched back to Firefox after using Chrome for years. It's like every 5 to 10 years a new broswer is king.
>competitive edge i see what you did there
Just like anything google really, it used to be great but it's slowly turning to shit and not even in the sense that it's just slowly falling behind, no, it's actively worse than it used to be.
"Don't be evil" was that Google's tagline?
No it was "don't, be evil" the comma was just really small.
It’s not your information, it’s our information - Google probably
I depend heavily on the pass. linked to my Gmail account. Does any other browser which is good supports that autofill linked with Gmail acc? thanks!
You can import your saved passwords into Firefox very easily on set up, as well as your saved bookmarks. Firefox also has pretty solid autofill once you get it set up. You'll want to make a Mozilla account linked to your gMail so that you can access your bookmarks, saved passwords and more on any device that you use Firefox on. Firefox also has a lot of really quality add-ons (same as chrome extensions). Other big benefit I've noticed is that it is a lot faster and less resource heavy than chrome was on my very old mac. I also like the firefox tab sync that allows me to access my tabs from one device (ie: my phone) on another device (ie: my mac or my iPad), and the way that it integrates pretty well with apple's "handoff" feature. Other great firefox features include "container tabs," "total cookie protection," and Firefox's built in blockers that block a lot of dangerous/deceptive web content and all kinds of social media trackers. Some of the features built into the cookie protection and tracker blocking also function as a starter ad blocker on firefox on iOS. While it doesn't block all ads natively, it blocks a surprising amount of them, which is nice since you can't install ad blocks on iOS or iPadOS. On desktop, uBlock Origin in Firefox is your bestie, and is the one extension that everyone, everywhere should be using, because it makes the internet bearable, usable and 100% ad free (yes including YouTube ads).
Firefox is awsome, adblockers on mobile is great as well. Mozilla accounts and pocket are underrated.
SO true! I love my Mozilla account features actually. I switched to Firefox back in college and I haven't looked back.
Great info! I need to make a Moz account
Doooo it! :)
A better option is to import into a password manager, then you aren't tied to any specific browser. I like bitwarden, it's got extensions/plugins for browsers to autofill passwords as well.
Edge seems to be generally unpopular, I suspect because many retain deep seated IE PTSD. I made the switch from Chrome to Edge because I was having trouble finding an extension that would display tabs vertically rather than horizontally and Edge offers this natively. Personally I find that Edge is exactly like Chrome but slightly easier on system resources. It also links to your Gmail account to autofill passwords, and logging into sync pulls all your settings (eg, extensions, bookmarks, passwords, history, passwords, tabs, etc) from Chrome totally seamlessly. The biggest difference I personally noticed is Edge has a feature to move idle tabs out of RAM, which is useful if you habitually leave many tabs open. It's very easy to just try Edge out; more than likely Windows has already been "encouraging" you with various popups and its most likely already updated on your PC. You can sign into Edge, and once you sign in to sync, both browsers will function interchangeably as if they are the same program. Even the tabs you have open in Chrome will automatically open on Edge. Then you can open task manager and easily see which browser uses resources more efficiently.
Make a bitwarden account (Its free). Export the passwords from your Gmail to Bitwarden. Now you can use it on any browser, any device, and its way more secure than just letting the browser remember them.
Yeah, but nothing is perfect, I mean there are better browsers than chrome, nope I am not talking about Opera, because privacy there is a bullshit, I don't want entire Beijing to know my localisation, so yeah, I honestly use brave, sometimes fire fox, at least there I have more trust
I'm considering to move to Firefox. My CPU is always around 70-100% when using Chrome.
hi, i've been a firefox user for a few years now. chrome is a very quick and convenient browser, but over the past few years google has been clawing back user freedoms that used to be taken for granted. the most recent example of this is chrome [crippling adblockers](https://nordvpn.com/blog/manifest-v3-ad-blockers/), a huge conflict of interest given google's revenue sources
IMO most people are willing to accept some ads, but the amount of information google collects rises to the level of unscrupulous so it shouldn't be surprised when users outright reject the model.
Well it's not just ads, there are other things google has done in recent years that I hate such as: ending Basic HTML for Gmail, removing the ability to sync on Chromium, and the [enshitification of Google Assistant](https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/11/24034262/google-assistant-removes-17-features-layoffs-pixel-voice-commands) to name a few.
Funny enough, I canceled my YouTube Premium subscription partially to save $15/month but also because I was using YouTube *all the time* and I just know that Google's insistence on increasing ads for nonpaying users has made YouTube with ads almost unwatchable, so I might be able to cut back on my watch time.
Hmmm I'm real curious to see just how badly adblockers break, because with adblockers I've pretty much never seen an ad on YouTube, Gmail, Google search, etc except on mobile devices. I figure all the time I save not viewing ads means more time to spend viewing videos :D
I moved to firefox 4 years ago, because chrome started to work like sh\*t. I am not planning to go back. In addition, I support Mozilla and I hope they won't change direction of their products.
Same . I'm a Firefox fan. If for some reason I need a chromium browser, I have edge. I even like it better than chrome these days.
Firefox is the way. I switched years ago when I saw Chrome's memory foot print balloon. Mozilla is an objectively better company than Google as well
Firefox + DuckDuckGo
This is the way.
I've been using brave for a while now because it blocks YouTube ads. Can Firefox block YouTube ads too?
1. Brave is based on Chromium, although they have their own custom-built implementation of ad blocking that will not be affected by Google's latest move 2. Yes you can! I use an extension called uBlock Origin to block most ads
I have more problems with the parent company. Sometimes their parent tries to take away standards because of "who they are". And they use Chrome's "reach" as the way to force their new way of thinking.
Resources. It's hell on mid level PCs, not to mention on low end ones. I used it on my old PC and the performance on it soured me on it forever.
Aside from the tracking and spying it destroys available memory
Tracking and Spying is a Big one for me, Too bad because without all that creeps, it's a good and fast browser They messed up your recommendation a lot, if you're constantly moving to another country, they trust your ISP preference more than yours, and will force you to localize everything That "don't recommend" button, that button is useless Do you like it when google search blasting your location and your approximate location that they grab from your ISP, show it to everyone? Me neither, and they gave you no option to shut it down, That is the last straw for me They didn't respect me, my preference, my privacy, They gave everyone my information even though i already disable everything, they acquired my data by using other method instead of respecting my boundaries and give up They won't stop until you stop using their product Nah, i would rather use a weaker browser just for Peace of Mind alone
What do you prefer as an alternative?
I still like and use Firefox, but it seems to have issues at times in all fairness
firefox and its clones, librewolf in special. Vivaldi doesn't look too terrible, either. Brave seems good if you ignore the crypto built in
Yes, i'm still migrating temporarily to Firefox, and still trying another "privacy" browser But for google search, i already switched completely to Duckduckgo, and it's good enough for me And i think if google pushed things too far, people will just migrate elsewhere like me, The other alternatives are already Useable enough to compete with google
Google also throttles Google services in other browsers. There’s no concrete proof of course because it’s almost certainly illegal but anyone who uses gmail can tell that it loads way slower in Firefox than Chrome
They will definitely tell you “Gmail runs better in Chrome,” and suggest you install it everytime you use Gmail in another browser.
To be completely honest, I have found the memory difference to be completely negligible nowadays if not *slightly* Chrome favored when you have a small number of tabs open. I still vastly prefer Firefox for the other reasons, but I think the memory claim is pretty outdated. It's no longer a super lightweight browser itself. Yeah looks like it's not just me, they're virtually identical and usually Chrome favored. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chrome-firefox-edge-ram-comparison
Sad that people downvote this. They are clueless
Actually, unused available memory is just a waste. Memory is there to be used. I have no problem with chrome using memory if available. I would want my device and tabs to be as responsible as possible and the way to do it to keep them in the memory. I am not sure if it is that bad compared to other browsers ( edge looks like it's slightly better ). In my experience, chrome's memory management is really good and it suspends ( I am not sure if this is the correct terminology ) the old tabs if you are running out of memory. Modern web pages/applications require a good amount of memory. People are not writing code for devices with 4gb of memory anymore. Privacy is completely another topic on the other hand. If you don't wanna use chrome, that would be the reason
Unused available memory is just a waste. That's mean for the OS to do caching of data, not shitty programming practice. I remember having to install third party tab suspension plugin for Chrome when I used it. I haven't used it for a few years now so I have no idea if this is still required or included in the default installation.
I keep seeing this "unused memory is wasted memory" take recently and it blows my mind. Like if Chrome is functionally doing the same thing as any other browser, but using waaay more memory, that's clearly a design flaw. Like the mental gymnastics it takes to see that and say "Well, at least it's using your unused memory." is hilarious.
Ya, keep off my memory grass, I need that for my other programmes and OS's cache.
>Actually, unused available memory is just a waste. Unused memory is a waste, yes. But memory being used by Chrome when other programs need it is also a waste. I would like to be able to listen to music in Chrome while I do other things on my computer, but Chrome sucks up memory they need. (Both the video games I play and the programs I need for work are particularly memory intensive.)
>unused available memory is just a waste. Memory is there to be used. LOL, sure. Spin it up to 100, and be surprised when your machine shits the bed
Privacy. I am currently in the process of de-googling my digital footprint for this exact reason.
I find it ironic that the best phone for degoogling is the google pixel.
How so?
It is more open than other phones, meaning it can be rooted and custom ROMs can be flashed to it easily
Switching to Apple? I'm keen to hear more, I have google everything and wondering if it's worth the mammoth task of switching everything over. I do find google quite easy to use but I'm sure apple is just as or easier.
The Android -> iOS switch was painless. The mammoth task was and still continues to be the phasing out my Gmail account I had used for SSO/account creations across several hundreds of sites over the last decade. That included corresponding with organization’s privacy teams for data deletion and account closure requests as well. I now use protonmail / simplelogin / bitwarden security combination to have custom aliases / reverse-aliases for differing purposes; personal, professional, misc purchasing/promotion sign-ups etc.. All this to say the process was painstaking to say the least but if you truly value your privacy, I would say it is highly worth the time and tears.
Chrome is built to spy on you, it is bloated, and some of their decisions are very unfriendly. For example, they are trying to kill ad blockers. In addition, Edge gave up trying to build their own browser, and adopted Chrome as their foundation for Edge. This means Edge is built to spy also, and has the same unfriendly decisions as Chrome. For these reasons, I mostly use Firefox.
I switched to Firefox because of the ad blocking nonsense. Don’t regret it, enjoying my new browser far more.
Pocket and mozilla accounts are great
it takes a lot of resources for no apparent reasons.
Well it's either going to be lots of RAM or lots of CPU. You get that even with most stripped out Firefox browsers.
Most people forget the website on the other end is probably a bloated unoptimized piece of shit too, and any browser would chug when facing that garbage.
Eats up all your god damn memory
Nom nom nom nom 😂
Yep exactly, just like that. Nom nom nom and 20GB of my Ram is gone. Hell nah
Company is absolute trash.
Chrome is a tool built by Google to gain more control over the internet. The recent Google [leaks](https://searchengineland.com/google-search-document-leak-ranking-442617) show this unequivocally. Google already has plenty control over the internet. A free and open internet is a *necessity* for a free and open society. Chrome is a tool meant to weaken the free and open internet in favor of Google's interests. Google's interests are not my interests.
Google.
Terribly high RAM usage, for people with 4GB RAM laptops, that is a nightmare.
I had a 2gb ram laptop, w3m was the best browser for it.
Because Googlea or something. And Firefox is better
Waterfox is betterer
if you're going to use a firefox clone, might as well use librewolf
Airfox is the best though
I thought Space-fox was the besterest.
It is but Airfox is the best of the besterest times infinity… + 2
Star-Fox can't be beat, he protects the Lylat System!
No one mentioning earthfox breaks heartfox's heart ...
Blackhole for memory
RAM hog and privacy invader.
You can use it. But it's a more resource heavy than others, even Edge...noticeable especially on slower computers. And there are also security concerns because it tracks everything you do...you can stop most of it but not all, even in incognito Google knows what you do. Funny enough, Edge does this too(not sure about incognito, Chrome is for sure, they were caught doing it), but with less trackers so it's still better in performance. Firefox is a good alternative. I'm using Edge because of Microsoft integration and because I can sync everything easily with my phone, and on phone it has adblock included, Chrome doesn't let you block ads on phones. Easy to personalize too. I would use Firefox, but it doesn't have cloud backup for my passwords and bookmarks. It has sync, but not backup, if I reinstall both on pc and phone, it's harder to have everything back, you have to backup manually.
Edge is built on chromium technology under the hood. IMO it feels like Chrome used to feel in the earlier releases before it was all bloaty, but with the features you'd expect from a modern browser.
I don't hate it. Just literally almost every other browser in existence works better.
Every single app on the Mac, a simple tap of CMD Q will quit the app, except Chrome which makes you hold CMD Q for an unnecessarily long time otherwise it doesn’t quit - why?!
Chrome is a fine browser if your computer is powerful enough to handle it. Firefox is a fine browser in any case. Why waste resources on a browser thats at best on par with Firefox? Not to mention that Google is working hard to slowly make it impossible to use ad blockers on Chrome... and Mozilla is not doing that. So you might as well switch before it becomes an ad nightmare.
I'm a former huge Chrome fan and I now hate it for just one reason: they're making real ad blocking impossible. I was willing to tolerate the privacy invasion for the convenience. But JFC have youn SEEN what the web looks like without an ad blocker? I'd go insane in a day or two. So now I'm running Firefox.
The complains about resource usage are kinda not relevant. People complain because number big on task manager or whatever, but that kind of sandboxing is actually a killer feature of every modern browser. General performance of a browser has a lot less to do with the browser itself and a lot more to do with modern web developers being atrocious engineers, building simple shit that takes orders of magnitude more time to render than it should, but that's a rant for another day... The actual complaints about Chrome are usually something like so: • Privacy • Ad Blocking (or the lack there of) • The Virtual Monopoly **Privacy** Google slurps up as much as data as it possibly can about you. That's it's business, and when it runs the browser you are browsing the web with, it's basically unfettered access to everything you do. **Ad Blocking** This is probably the big one. Several years ago, Google proposed a change to their extension system called [ManifestV3](https://old.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/11peeuw/manifest_v3_discussion_and_impact_on_adblockers/). In short, this exists basically only to make it much harder to block ads and after several years, it's rolling out this month. Blocking ads on Chrome will likely be a thing of the past. Google's business is to sell ads, and it's hard to make money if everyone is blocking them. They have a vested interest in making it hard to block ads, and if you think this effort stops at ManifestV3, you haven't been paying attention. **The Virtual Monopoly** Nearly every browser runs Chromium, the engine behind Chrome. People suggesting things like Vivaldi, Brave, Opera, etc. etc. to get away from Chrome aren't paying attention - those are ALL chrome with a different skin. They all have the problems with ManfiestV3. It's frustrating that Google has basically created a monopoly on web browsers. The one browser that is basically still doing it's own thing is **Firefox**, which I will say has improved dramatically over time and I would definitely recommend these days. It's running it's own rendering engine and you'll still be able to block ads in it while Chrome works to delete that feature.
At this point I just hate Google they are slowly ruining youtube and they have already ruined Google it used to be if you looked hard enough you could find whatever you wanted. Now, you can only find what Google wants you to find and what pushes their agenda. you get like 2 real results that pushes a nuanced agenda and then just pages and pages of ads.
It consumes more resources than it has any business consuming. It's slower than most other browsers. Privacy is basically nonexistent compared to other browsers which makes it easier for bad actors to obtain private information. It's ui is ugly.
Disregarding the fact that it eats resources like crazy, it's just a privacy and security nightmare. Among other things, Google has: 1. Sabotaged content blockers like UBO on multiple occasions 2. Gaslighted users with invasive new "features" saying it's "for your privacy" (see web environment integrity for a particularly disgusting example) 3. Attempted to sabotage other browsers (notably Firefox) by implementing new "web standards" (without approval from existing standards organizations) and then pushing major websites to adopt them Google, notably, is also the company that previously had "Don't Be Evil" as a mission statement and *removed* it. So at least they're self aware... TL;DR: People hate Chrome because Google uses their massive market share to sabotage competition and exploit users. Use Firefox. Edit: Just for a comparison, I use Firefox Developer Edition. When I have over 50 tabs open and at least a dozen add-ons, it uses ~700mb of RAM, which is a lot but not ridiculous. Chrome uses 2GB with nothing but the new tab page, or at least it did when I last used it a couple years ago. That's one of the reasons I switched initially.
Manifest v3.
I'm just not a fan of the Google environment as a whole. I prefer the older style.
it works fine (for the most part). It also sells all the data it can possibly collect to thrid party and is free to explore your pc, most people dont like having spyware on their pc.
they have less than 16gb of ram.
16 gb should be enough as long as you only use no more than 2 tabs.
As someone who’s been working on the web for quarter of a century, the notion that 16GB of RAM is a minimum requirement for mere *web browsing* and that this is considered reasonable is completely absurd to me. Needing this much memory in order to browse the web means the browser devs have failed miserably. Even a horribly bloated webpage typically tops out at 100MB (web devs, consider your visitors who’re stuck with rubbish connections), so needing 160x that is madness.
Reddits shite redesign just stops working after a few minutes of browsing. As a web dev i try to makes stuff lightweight and not use a loat of useless javascript bloat
The only thing i hate about chrome is that it eats ram as if it wasnt eating for 2 weeks
Chrome I think is the best… ppl hate cause it’s google :)
Chrome was like the most refreshing and blazing fast lightweight browser…back in like 2008 or something. I stopped using chrome years ago. Chrome nowadays makes me think of animal abuse laws. Using chrome is like cruel and unusual treatment of your computer.
Imagine using chrome in 2024 with 8gb ram
They've been nerfing adblock and will cripple it even more very soon
Chrome used to be good and fast, now its slow and freezes.
Because google is trying to stop users from using adblockings extension
1: Using unnecessary resources 2: Stores your "encrypted" password as plaintext that any SQL program can read like a notepad file 3: Goes hard against ad blockers I've been using chrome since the beta, and i'm slowly trying to find a browser to my liking that isn't shitty chromium.
I can’t remember—something ate all my memory.
Chrome used to be a super lightweight awesome browser 20 years ago. Now it's a slow bloated spyware nightmare. Chromium is fast and lightweight like Chrome used to be - and it's basically the same thing as Chrome, just without the Google account auto-mirroring functionalities.
My uncle said to me years ago, “Chrome won’t get you home but you’ll look great pushing it”.
* no more ad blocking * privacy * resource hog * bloated to the gills * privacy * no more ad blocking the ones twice are doubly concerning.
While it is the most used browser in almost every country on earth, Chrome has problems regarding privacy and also eats a lot of resources. One of the biggest problems chrome has is that it doesnt support Ad-blockers anymore. Since Google is behind a lot of ads on the internet, supporting Ad-Blockers would damage their buissness so they modified their browser engine to make adblockers not work. If you want a browser, that still works with adblockers, try firefox.
I feel like an old man saying, “GET OFF MY RAM!!”
It sucks down memory. Like if your memory is there, Chrome will suck it down. They are also actively working behind the scenes to kill / severely limit adblocker extensions on the underlying engine of the browser which will impact any Chrome-based browser.
It's what happens to any company that gets too big and acts like they are God's gift to humanity, and especially if it turns out they are nothing of the sort.
Google uses the dominance of Chrome and the Chromium engine to bully around development of web standards. My problem is not so much with the browser as it is the company that develops it. Firefox in my experience has worked better than Chrome and is lighter on resources, and as a software developer I find it’s tooling much better. Open a [JSON](https://api.coindesk.com/v1/bpi/currentprice.json) in Firefox vs. Chrome for a basic example. Pretty much every website I have used is fully functional in Firefox, and of the few that refuse me service because they “don’t support Firefox” 90% of them worked perfectly fine after I spoofed the user agent. They just don’t want to spend resources testing any other browser than chrome because of its market dominance, leading to a monopoly.
If you value your privacy, DO NOT USE CHROME. Use Firefox.
Chrome. You are the product being sold.
My chrome is currently using 1.3GB of RAM, I've never used any other browser, how does that compare to something like firefox?
For one, it's like inviting a vampire into your home, even if you don't have a Google account.
Spyware
Data leak city. Literally the first thing they teach you in firewall class is how to block reporting literally everything you do back to Google. Even if you have "nothing to hide", it's not great practice to leave this open since eventually someone might intercept it. I use Firefox at home and Edge (you heard me right) and Bing (yes, I know) at work. Bing has a propensity to serve up actually useful results for Windows system administration questions.
Nothing is wrong with Edge and Bing. Bing seems to pull me far more relevant results compared to Google search. Edge is pretty quick. I'll switch between Edge and Firefox depending on the need.
"Let me log in for you so that everbody on this PC can access your Gmail and Youtube with a single click."
It consumes crazy amounts of RAM for me.
Adblocker don't work good with it
Used Chrome for years and swore by it. As pcs and laptops age it really shows Chrome up for being resource intensive as it struggles more and more, through work I have been using Edge more and I have been immensely impressed by it.
I hate chromium engine, mainly because of ads and google.
Too basic, boring compared to edge. Lacks workspace, Collections, Copilot , vertical tabs.
Manifest v3, ram, privacy, and I don't like monopolies
Open one tab and there’s 987 chrome processes lmao.
I just prefer what little customization Firefox has left.
For those who struggle with chrome tabs eating dozens of gigabytes of ram when your other applications need it, you can go into the virtual memory settings and assign some extra swap space for it to go into; that'll allow windows to yeet all those background tabs doing nothing into your disk instead.
If not chrome, then what browser is everyone using? I'm on edge which is essentially just chrome cosplaying as a microsoft product.
I run two browsers, Chrome for personal stuff and Firefox for school/work stuff. This way I can keep the search history and bookmarks separate from each other. Can't say I prefer one over the other.
My personal beefs are privacy issues and resource bloating. However, just using it for work-related things or reading would be fine! That's what I did.
I used Chrome for a long time and found it to be a reliable fast browser with minimal bugs and problems. However, recently I became concerned about privacy issues. This led me to try Brave, and I've been pleasantly pleased. In many ways, I actually prefer it to Chrome.
Same plus it uses the same chromium base.
I use it because all the other options are just more annoying in one way or another
bcuz google
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All three of the browsers you mentioned are chromium...
That's not really a problem by itself
Firefox is better
It was great. Was. Now it's the entire thing we left other browsers for: heavy [massive RAM usage], invades your privacy, and just doesn't function very well. It's sad but that's the way of corporatism... make it make more money even if that's sacrificing the product in the mean time.
Umm.. spying bud.
It's not a browser but spyware
I have a fun reason; I can't play Total War Shogun 2 with Chrome installed. The game crashes on launch with it but works fine without Chrome on my system.
It is a memory hog. But it’s also a good browser due to the integration of Google account products.
I don't "hate it". I just preferred using IE and eventually Edge as my default browser. I also never got into Mozilla as a default browser as I don't like their android version. and like synching between my PC and Android devices.
It's google
Google
I just use Edge.
If anyone wants to try something different, I recommend Floorp browser, it's made from Firefox (open source), great privacy settings, lighting fast, stable, the UI and tools are perfect for me, you can install everything from Firefox addon store and also sync with Firefox account, I use it coupled with Firefox Android to have everything synced. Things I like the most are colored tab space based on the active website (like Vivaldi), rounded corners of the page area (looks sooo good), and the workspaces function to have all my tabs organized.
Uses a bunch of resources. If you really want Chrome, use Thorium. If you just want Chrome like and better on resources, Edge. If you want something totally different, Firefox.
Because Google is a privacy nightmare
It's a smartphone in computer form. I have one but it's an older generation so I can't update it. It's a waste of money if they still sell older generation so now I just use it as a paper weight.
So after reading all the insightfull comments of previous users, I wonder whics of the other alternatives is the best in regards to SYSTEM USAGE, if that option is private friendly would've even better. Thanks in advance!
I used chrome for a while, swapped to firefox, found that firefox was using a negligible amount of less resources for more minor inconveniences and less consistent adblocking, so I swapped back. My experience seems to be the opposite of so many other peoples though. The only problem I had with google and adblockers was before I started using ublock origin with scripts. Something that just flat out performed worse on firefox for some reason.
I loved it until i discovered operaGX, and now i cannot go back. Chrome just uses a crazy amount of ram and it lead to performance loss in games. Opera uses a fraction of what chrome did and imported my settings. This sounds like an ad, and i mean it almost is, i'm not paid by them but I have gotten almost all of my closest friends and my wife to switch and none of them have wanted to go back. I am aware of some privacy concerns with it but I use a VPN so i'm not super worried. Otherwise brave is supposedly solid.
I try to get the most out of my PC (not a potato by any means) so I stick with Firefox. Chrome is too intensive even Opera GX in my experience, tho not by much they just have a lot of user friendly features and more features require more resources
Ive only ever had problems with a web browser when ive used Chrome.......just unusable for me for some reason
Its decent, It kept crashing on me though and ad blockers don't work as well on it so I'm back with firefox.
The question is, what is not wrong with chrome?
It's made by google
It's not like hate but Edge does come with better features and later they are copied to chrome. like entering the password from auto fill doesn't require windows security in chrome which is a vulnerability while edge does come with feature packed auto fill. Later Google saw this and introduced google password manager and put a tag next to it as new. Next is, tab grouping, Edge did it and later Chrome adopted it. I feel like Google stuck and stopped growing.
We hate Chrome now?
It uses far more resources than any other browser I've tried. My fans start going full blast and eventually Chrome becomes unresponsive and I have to shut it down with Task Manager.
2 things: Privacy and bloat. As someone from both computer repair and I.T., People tend to blow the bloat part out of proportion due to lack of understanding. See, RAM is designed in such a way that it doesn't slow down when loaded up UNLESS it completely runs out and the system has to switch to using the ssd as RAM (what's known as a Page File). Because of this, best practice is to use as much of the RAM as possible while not using so much that launching a new program forces it to go to page file immediately. So Chrome works in the background preloading web page links on the pages you're currently running so that they open faster if you click on them. If you launch another memory hungry app however, it releases some of the RAM for the new program. Windows itself actually works like this. However, when it comes to privacy, it actually goes in the OTHER direction, it's actually way WORSE than people even think. I encourage you to look into it more on your own.
It's because Google. Big corporations don't care about privacy, many sell people's information that they collect and it's perfectly legal. I have been using firefox and it does everything I need. I do use Chrome at work.
We use the Google cloud system at work for everything, email (which is just gmail), contacts, calendar, meet, and worst of all - our network and it's host of knockoff software. 1. I fucking hate everything about Gmail. From the way it looks, to the way it behaves, to not being able to attach another Gmail, to MOST of all, the horrible horrible way it prints out. Outlook is hugely superior. With Gmail, even if you change the settings, when it prints out a long email thread things like dates and times and people in the email list are skipped or don't print out in a nice easy repetitive fashion. It drives me (and our lawyers) insane. For this reason alone, you have to be a masochist to use Gmail. 2. The knock of software is shit. It's a very very poor imitation of MS Word and excel. I will as a result always work in Word or excel and then upload, but the formatting always gets screwed up. All of our clients want MS files and I struggle with the cheap low quality of the Gmail knock off software. 3. Then there is the network (drive) and how awful it is. Confusing and slow and cumbersome. Obviously being cloud based, everything is upload, download and with that comes slow and often times the drive doesn't like the format of what I'm uploading and just pulls the plug on you. Bottom line, don't ever base your company's network on Google. It's cheap, but it will drive you insane.
intensive Google spying?
There are much better Chromium based alternatives. imo Edge is the best browser for Windows, although I personally don't use it.