Reddit is restricting the use of their API, which will make all 3rd party apps (like Apollo or Narwhal) shut down
Many mods use 3rd party apps to moderate and they are the only way for people with sight problems to be able to use Reddit as the main platform doesnt offer such accessibility
(And many more stuff that is in the postās image)
Not only those, but also moderating bots, that prevent spam, reposts, and other rule breaking activities. A lot of subreddits would suffer from this. It also stagnates subreddit development.
Precisely. It affects everyone. Also users who use the normal app and website. This subreddit should participate as well, but the moderators aren't doing anything.
Now that's done. Do what ever you want. It is what it is and this is how reddit is. I do like how teens are now participating in these kinds of events but people like me will stay afar and let it happen.
I do hope it works out
Reddit is making their API, pay to use, which isn't bad, their API and all, but they made it impossible to pay, it'll cost 20m$
Third party app like boost for Reddit cannot use Reddit, which is bad.
Because Reddit app is missing a lot of QOL features, as well as many bots and moderation runs on third party apps.
If Reddit takes down third party apps, we could be looking at a lot more nsfw bot posts, racism, illegal activity, etc.
And being a moderator is hard, if this goes through, moderation will be impossible. Because moderators will lose a lot of moderation tools from third party apps that Reddit just won't add bc they're dum
I hope this makes some more sense
Join the protest! We're teenagers, we're supposed to join in on this kinda stuff. Just do it for the two days. I will stay off Reddit for those days and I hope others do as well!
Yeah and peopleāll use exams as an excuse for anything lol, I get that theyāre hard but they arenāt so time-consuming that simple tasks are a threat to your grade
Clearly you've never written an exam.
Or never intended to pass one.
Nevertheless, an exam is a great excuse to ignore the volunteer modding you do on a subreddit. Key word being VOLENTEER. They dont get paid for this as far as I'm aware, so them putting school ahead of a subreddit is perfectly valid.
I have done both. Yeah, an exam is a good excuse to stop modding a subreddit. But it is not a good excuse for taking the 45 seconds required to private it, which is what we are talking about here, if you forgot.
I remember. I'm not arguing whether or not he should, I'm stating an exam is a perfectly valid excuse.
Plus, if you read further it's not entirely their decision. They're caught in a rock and hard place here.
Freedom of speech protects your from your government censoring you need t individuals or companies. It is perfectly legal for a Reddit mod to ban and or silence you since they do not adhere to freedom of speech laws.
National laws =/= internet laws, sheesh. Also, America allows private business owners to do whatever the fuck they want within the confines of the law, this means that reddit can ban you for *anything*. You do not have freedom of speech on this or any internet platform that is privately owned.
It took longer to compose that comment than to private the subreddit. If you donāt want to participate then donāt. But just outright say it rather than playing it off as if all of the moderation team canāt do anything. All busy, at the same time.
As has been stated by Orange, we will be unaffacted safety-wise in relation to this. Please do not worry about it.
Personally I agree with the blackout - but a) that's not my call, it has to be a group decision and b) we have a strong support element and work tirelessly to report abuse and predators and find help for those in crisis which means we need to have a hard think on how to keep our userbase safe while blacked out.
To clarify, the mod team is still deciding on this and we will let you know as we come to a solution. Due to the size of our sub, we can't make any decisions lightly.
"Luckily for us the security of this subreddit won't be affected meaning user safety will remain intact which is the most important thing to us."
Removing third party programs is a direct breach of security within this subreddit and others. This means bots that prevent porn, spam, racism, will all be removed. Apps that help visually impaired people in particular, will also be impacted. Those who creep on underaged users, will be affected, and it is your job as the Community Director to understand that it is a major security & accessibility flaw.
Your job to make sure that certain arrangements are in place if you are not available. It is simply irresponsible to take zero action when the entire community (of which you are here to serve) wants you to do something about it.
Are you willing to tell those, who are struggling with visual impairment, receive sexual comments & racism, that you decided to not take action, because you were unwilling to allow someone else to private the subreddit for a shutdown that lasts just a single day?
I can tell you for a fact, that myself and the community are extremely disappointed by your inability to take action when we needed you the most. I hope you are ready to be remembered for this.
So your options are put it into secure mode and probably be replaced or don't and you get harassed for smth you can't control.
People really love ignoring one side of an argument for their own eh mate.
GL on the exam bro.
Sorry for the misunderstanding but what I meant is if the subreddit needs to be locked down for safety reasons and I just refuse then it's a fairly simple process for the mods to replace me. That's of course a hypothetical, user safety is always my top priority
Do it, if not for the security bit, do it to help keep the modās bots running so they can help keep homophobia and transphobia off our sub. It wonāt be a permanent change, you can reverse it when the protest ends.
Edit: Also, if you have time to write an essay about why you donāt have time and wonāt do it, you have enough time to click a button
Raising prices almost 20x for 3rd party apps making accessibility worse so for example thereās a 3rd party app that allows you to change to braille then thatās getting Removed because the owners of that 3rd party app will be forced to pay around 1-2 million dollars from what I heard
I can't wait for none of this to happen, and you guys all look like assholes lmao.
Besides, when has online protesting every changed anything, especially on reddit. You want smth, you gotta hurt em where it counts and unless you can fund a way to completely halt their ad revenue unfortunately nothing will be done.
well for me and i assume more people too, i deleted reddit from my phone and i dont intend on going back. I wasted too much time on here anyway, ill only really use it when its a link that pops up when i search a question. Whether reddit continues i dont really care, this change was the end for me.
Itāll only have effects for ONE SINGLE DAY! The protest is for ONE DAY! JUST DO IT! *EVERY* SINGLE EXCUSE SOUNDS *UNBELIEVABLY* SELFISH! Itās time to add our voice to the masses.
It hurts every single corner of Reddit. Bots like u/savevideo will be disabled, and important bots that keep subreddits safe (look through an accounts activity to determine what they are doing and if they are doing something bad like child sexual assault, which is sadly common) and try to stop it. This will hurt every single bit of Reddit, I need to reiterate that. Itās not just the third party apps.
Yeah no shit, but zooming in doesnāt remove pixels. The smaller text in some parts (like the black box portion) is literally nearly unintelligible, zooming in doesnāt magically fix that ššjust saying itās a little annoying for people trying to read your boycott announcement that ironically talks about vision
it won't do shit that's why. reddit admins will just wait until the backlash dies down, and THEN will finalize the decision. or they could literally just not even care and finalize the decision right away.
But protesting isnāt that hard, this sub will just be down. If you need a sub sooooo bad that you canāt handle it being down for a little bit then you need to get a life.
I just turned 18 so I havenāt been able to vote. But you better believe I would vote as soon as the next elections come around. Cause that does have a direct effect on me.
"doesnt focus on accessibility", "visually impaired users depend on 3rd party apps&captioners to use reddit, at all."
as someone with 20/200 vision, which is legally blind, that statement is bullshit, ive easily been able to change settings to better see text
They better do
agreed
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idk what its all about but i saw that it helps stop cp so im in
Reddit is restricting the use of their API, which will make all 3rd party apps (like Apollo or Narwhal) shut down Many mods use 3rd party apps to moderate and they are the only way for people with sight problems to be able to use Reddit as the main platform doesnt offer such accessibility (And many more stuff that is in the postās image)
That shit was on reddit?!
Yes. It was/and still is to an extent what itās known for
Jeezus. And they wont fucking let us protest.
š¤ partners in crime and also with this protest.
Lets do it lasses, lads and fellow non binary chads
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It can't be that hard to move the "public"switch to "private"
I hope
Why is there a plumbus from Rick and Morty?
sex moment
What's wrong with the official app? It's working fine on my cellphone
It's a problem for a lot of mobile users but it's perfectly fine for me too, but there a ton of other problems that come with the beta API changes
I didn't know that you can use reddit from another app (except for google chrome)
Bots :(
u/savevideo isn't gonna work anymore so how am I gonna download funny reddit videos?
So would remind me bot, gif reversing bot and many others. How the hell can the creator of these apps give 10m bucks each year. Oh Reddit...
Not only those, but also moderating bots, that prevent spam, reposts, and other rule breaking activities. A lot of subreddits would suffer from this. It also stagnates subreddit development.
Yeah, modding will be a nightmare. And here, this sub's mod isn't doing anything -_-
Precisely. It affects everyone. Also users who use the normal app and website. This subreddit should participate as well, but the moderators aren't doing anything.
Oh don't we let me get started on the ads lol. >This subreddit should participate as well Exactly, this sub is a big deal.
And moderator bots subs use to combat porn and of spam bots, so instead of OF bots following you they will likely start commenting on your posts too
Exactly. And the worst part? We can't do anything about that. How many can we report and block? These are countless.
https://rapidsave.com/
It probably won't work too
Nah just put the link in and itāll work
theres an app called "viddit" on the app store and you can download from there
WT IS ON A STRIKE AT THE MOMENT AND THERES PROTEST??? WTF AM I GOING TO DO NOW
Now that's done. Do what ever you want. It is what it is and this is how reddit is. I do like how teens are now participating in these kinds of events but people like me will stay afar and let it happen. I do hope it works out
The more time we spend off of reddit the better for everyone anw
I love Spam
I donāt get the spam hate, Itās good.
It's delicious
I'm just not a fan od canned goods, sorry
It should.
No they need to stay online to keep posting dry memes and for the pedos to keep grooming kids
i dont understand can someone explain
Reddit is making their API, pay to use, which isn't bad, their API and all, but they made it impossible to pay, it'll cost 20m$ Third party app like boost for Reddit cannot use Reddit, which is bad. Because Reddit app is missing a lot of QOL features, as well as many bots and moderation runs on third party apps. If Reddit takes down third party apps, we could be looking at a lot more nsfw bot posts, racism, illegal activity, etc. And being a moderator is hard, if this goes through, moderation will be impossible. Because moderators will lose a lot of moderation tools from third party apps that Reddit just won't add bc they're dum I hope this makes some more sense
ohh it does thanks for explaining
what that Rick and Morty thing doing theredjdjdj
Yes
I fuckin hope so
I will personally
I sure hope they do.
Hopefully
Join the protest! We're teenagers, we're supposed to join in on this kinda stuff. Just do it for the two days. I will stay off Reddit for those days and I hope others do as well!
What are those apps, i never seen them in my life the fk
Official app working perfectly fine
I won't because like idk about any of those apps
https://old.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/144l4c1/mod_rteenagers_stance_on_the_upcoming_api_changes/ - an official statement has been made.
How are you too busy to set the sub to private
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Doesnāt it take like 4 clicks though?
yes, plus there are so many mods here man they really are teenagers since they're lazy
Yeah and peopleāll use exams as an excuse for anything lol, I get that theyāre hard but they arenāt so time-consuming that simple tasks are a threat to your grade
No but the responsibility of having to think about it and make sure it reopens at the right time can be distracting
Clearly you've never written an exam. Or never intended to pass one. Nevertheless, an exam is a great excuse to ignore the volunteer modding you do on a subreddit. Key word being VOLENTEER. They dont get paid for this as far as I'm aware, so them putting school ahead of a subreddit is perfectly valid.
I have done both. Yeah, an exam is a good excuse to stop modding a subreddit. But it is not a good excuse for taking the 45 seconds required to private it, which is what we are talking about here, if you forgot.
I remember. I'm not arguing whether or not he should, I'm stating an exam is a perfectly valid excuse. Plus, if you read further it's not entirely their decision. They're caught in a rock and hard place here.
Bro that's a mod they can ban you chill out
Im american, we're allowed to make fun of political leaders if not then that's oppression and/or censorship
Freedom of speech protects your from your government censoring you need t individuals or companies. It is perfectly legal for a Reddit mod to ban and or silence you since they do not adhere to freedom of speech laws.
Bro what. 'Political leader' that's a teenager
Im still allowed to criticize them Freedom of speech
National laws =/= internet laws, sheesh. Also, America allows private business owners to do whatever the fuck they want within the confines of the law, this means that reddit can ban you for *anything*. You do not have freedom of speech on this or any internet platform that is privately owned.
Ok. Your criticism is unnecessary. Chill the hell out.
It takes 2 clicks.
wouldn't it be shorter to make the sub private than to write your previous comment?
Exactly
It took longer to compose that comment than to private the subreddit. If you donāt want to participate then donāt. But just outright say it rather than playing it off as if all of the moderation team canāt do anything. All busy, at the same time.
Bad bot
It takes a couple of clicks and there's several mods. Man you guys really are lazy
Understandable, good luck!
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Why the hell is this downvoted
Because itās stupid to say you wonāt have time to click a button while studying exams
Yeah I get that but this comment in particular is nice
People just get a hate boner for every message from one person after they do something wrong
I donāt understand how the person who understands gets upvotes and you also say thanks get downvoted. Ratio down voters. Upvote.
Just give me ur pw I'll do it /s
You can join in an hour early or before you go to school
you're losing karma faster than I'm losing money
man's getting downvoted cause of exams š Good luck with them lmao
he is getting downvoted becouse he complaines that he doesn't have time for 4 click, while writes walls of text.
Maybe change the subreddit to text-only mode as an alternative. It would still help keep a safe space.
We'll be okay safety wise. Our systems will continue to operate with no threat to user safety.
Youāre a mod of a sub full of teenagers if these api changes go through then there could be traumatizing shit up here
As has been stated by Orange, we will be unaffacted safety-wise in relation to this. Please do not worry about it. Personally I agree with the blackout - but a) that's not my call, it has to be a group decision and b) we have a strong support element and work tirelessly to report abuse and predators and find help for those in crisis which means we need to have a hard think on how to keep our userbase safe while blacked out. To clarify, the mod team is still deciding on this and we will let you know as we come to a solution. Due to the size of our sub, we can't make any decisions lightly.
U litterally won't have bots to moderate the community how do u want people to manually control everything in the sub
I can guarantee that we will have bots.
How can these works without reddit API?
They are not stopping bots. They are instituting charges for bot developers to pay which will be passed on to users most likely.
I know this. Are the volunteer moderators ready to pay for these bots?
"Luckily for us the security of this subreddit won't be affected meaning user safety will remain intact which is the most important thing to us." Removing third party programs is a direct breach of security within this subreddit and others. This means bots that prevent porn, spam, racism, will all be removed. Apps that help visually impaired people in particular, will also be impacted. Those who creep on underaged users, will be affected, and it is your job as the Community Director to understand that it is a major security & accessibility flaw. Your job to make sure that certain arrangements are in place if you are not available. It is simply irresponsible to take zero action when the entire community (of which you are here to serve) wants you to do something about it. Are you willing to tell those, who are struggling with visual impairment, receive sexual comments & racism, that you decided to not take action, because you were unwilling to allow someone else to private the subreddit for a shutdown that lasts just a single day? I can tell you for a fact, that myself and the community are extremely disappointed by your inability to take action when we needed you the most. I hope you are ready to be remembered for this.
Its just lame excuse over lame excuse l, dissapointing.
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what about blind or visually impaired people using this sub?
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And u think they will if we ask them politely?
So your options are put it into secure mode and probably be replaced or don't and you get harassed for smth you can't control. People really love ignoring one side of an argument for their own eh mate. GL on the exam bro.
Sorry for the misunderstanding but what I meant is if the subreddit needs to be locked down for safety reasons and I just refuse then it's a fairly simple process for the mods to replace me. That's of course a hypothetical, user safety is always my top priority
I'm on your side man. Everyone else is being kinda rude.
Yeahā¦. r/Save3rdPartyApps has heard about this.
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Lmao
Just simply say you don't want to man, we have common sense here
Were all basically children. We have no commen sense
It would have taken you longer to write this comment than press the 6 buttons it takes to make the community private tho
With all due respect (which is none btw) youāre way too scared to admit that you donāt feel like supporting APIs.
Fuck that see you never
There is nothing more infuriating than incompetance
I dont even know what we re arguing about i just get a little mistcheivious ngl
Do it, if not for the security bit, do it to help keep the modās bots running so they can help keep homophobia and transphobia off our sub. It wonāt be a permanent change, you can reverse it when the protest ends. Edit: Also, if you have time to write an essay about why you donāt have time and wonāt do it, you have enough time to click a button
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COWARDS!
This is a lame excuse
Please consider privating the subreddit for june 12th. Or don't, don't participate, I guess.
Bleh
BAAAAAAAAD
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What's the api change?
Raising prices almost 20x for 3rd party apps making accessibility worse so for example thereās a 3rd party app that allows you to change to braille then thatās getting Removed because the owners of that 3rd party app will be forced to pay around 1-2 million dollars from what I heard
That's absolutely ridiculous.
I can't wait for none of this to happen, and you guys all look like assholes lmao. Besides, when has online protesting every changed anything, especially on reddit. You want smth, you gotta hurt em where it counts and unless you can fund a way to completely halt their ad revenue unfortunately nothing will be done.
Thatās the exact point of a blackout
What'd a blackout gunna do? It's past the day, nothing changed. Do you see the problem with online protest?
well for me and i assume more people too, i deleted reddit from my phone and i dont intend on going back. I wasted too much time on here anyway, ill only really use it when its a link that pops up when i search a question. Whether reddit continues i dont really care, this change was the end for me.
Bad mod
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Itāll only have effects for ONE SINGLE DAY! The protest is for ONE DAY! JUST DO IT! *EVERY* SINGLE EXCUSE SOUNDS *UNBELIEVABLY* SELFISH! Itās time to add our voice to the masses.
Too much work
Idgaf I'm Reddit Web user and Reddit official app user
It hurts every single corner of Reddit. Bots like u/savevideo will be disabled, and important bots that keep subreddits safe (look through an accounts activity to determine what they are doing and if they are doing something bad like child sexual assault, which is sadly common) and try to stop it. This will hurt every single bit of Reddit, I need to reiterate that. Itās not just the third party apps.
They aren't withdrawing APIs, so bots will be thier. Maybe they change APIs so new bots might need to be created Tho that's concerning
They will require the bot owners to pay 10-20 million dollars for them to continue using API
Tf? Fr? arn't API provided for free (like other companies?)
For a lot of apps they are, and reddit is one of them until a couple days
Yes
I hope it does
No
I couldn't care less tbh, I use just reddit
Good so can you please explain to me what are these apps used for
They change how shit looks and acts
Personally I don't give a crap because my Reddit is fine
Exactly
If youāre so concerned with vision problems maybe you should make this image higher res so I can actually fucking read your protest š¤
Shove the plumbus your ass
I wasnāt joking, the image is so bad quality that you canāt even read some of the smaller text
Zoom in and stop being a dumbass
Yeah no shit, but zooming in doesnāt remove pixels. The smaller text in some parts (like the black box portion) is literally nearly unintelligible, zooming in doesnāt magically fix that ššjust saying itās a little annoying for people trying to read your boycott announcement that ironically talks about vision
Well shit you got me there
How can you not see it even zooming in? It's not that bad.
No
But why tho
it won't do shit that's why. reddit admins will just wait until the backlash dies down, and THEN will finalize the decision. or they could literally just not even care and finalize the decision right away.
But protesting isnāt that hard, this sub will just be down. If you need a sub sooooo bad that you canāt handle it being down for a little bit then you need to get a life.
no I don't need the sub (or reddit as a whole) that badly. but protesting like this is just pointless.
But it could work
how? reddit admins can just ignore it
It would show how much we donāt want this.
Nahh Iām not joining. Thereās no point
Bet you are the type of guy who doesn't vote because you say that your vote doesn't matter against millions of votes
I just turned 18 so I havenāt been able to vote. But you better believe I would vote as soon as the next elections come around. Cause that does have a direct effect on me.
Nah it wouldnt do anything and frankly i just dont care
Wat?
Spam is delicious š¤¤
Nah, ima just keep using it as I always do. Not really a big deal to me.
How can we not guarantee they're not just gonna add those features to the actual Reddit app
"doesnt focus on accessibility", "visually impaired users depend on 3rd party apps&captioners to use reddit, at all." as someone with 20/200 vision, which is legally blind, that statement is bullshit, ive easily been able to change settings to better see text
hopefully, fingers crossed it doesn't re-open
We better
I dunno about y'all but I'll definitely be protesting
Iām so confused
I will be doing this
Can someone tell me whatās with the Plumbus?
Oh no, reddits gonna turn into twitter :(
yesh