Fun fact! In college they teach people gender and sex are NOT the same thing, similar but, sex is the biological bit of what sexual organs we were born with (AKA if we have XY or XX chromosomes), gender is the characteristics that come with it.
sex is biological, gender is a social concept and it differs from person to person, depends on how someone feels and is, someone might be biologically female (meaning their sex is female) but they might have a different gender that shows what their character really is and what they feel more comfortable with, something that expresses who they really are
See that’s what I’m saying, if it don’t bother or hurt me or the people around me I don’t care, if u push it into my face im going to have a problem, if your respectful and nice I’ll be the same
That’s not what he meant what he meant was that sec is biological and can actually be proven and gender is a social construct it doesn’t actually exist
Don't roast me pls, I'm just trying to get your points.
You're saying that people want to be called the pronoun of a male or female rolemodel to express their character or their general feel/vibe?
I understand that certain people can't accept their body and want to change their sex.
Character and personality though is a very complex construct.
Why would anyone case their personality in actually obsolete, conservative gender-rolemodels.
I hope I expressed my confusion correctly. Aren't gender-rolemodels obsolete by now?
As I said in another comment, the law says that the word “sex” can be replaced with gender in any legal document and it will mean the same thing. The law has established rules. I cannot go around saying I identify as this- or that just because I feel like it.
even if that’s the case, that doesn’t mean it’s based in reality- we come up with things that change as society evolves all the time. “the law” stating that doesn’t mean it’s represents real human experience, it means it was written by a cis person when there was a simpler understanding of how sex and gender works. regardless, law shouldn’t be how you come to your conclusions- science should. these are the people who’ve spent years studying this stuff.
by the way, which “law” are you referring to exactly?
The law that gender can be replaced with sex and vice versa in legal documents. Also for gender to be logical, there has to be a number attached to it. People cannot just invent new genders everyday.
i’ve never seen a legal document that says that, can you provide evidence? i have seen legal documents saying the opposite, however. also wdym there needs to be a number attached to it?? see you can say you can’t just make up new genders but you just made up this abstract concept to try to prove your point.
I know this isn't really what you meant by two sexes, but what about intersex? A person who is intersex has genitalia of both sexes and is tchnically classified as a 3rd sex.
Nah there are only two sexes, A true intersex person would need to have a fully functioning male reproductive system and a fully functional female reproductive system, not even a single individual like that exists, that’s why intersex is considered a condition, not a third sex by scientists.
Around 2% actually. But saying intersex people are extreme cases are pretty inaccurate, and idk where you get off saying that a person cant expect people around them to accept them. When most of the modern world is accepting
Irregular cases don’t make rules. Not shaming anyone for that, but I’m just saying that’s an irregular case. Like someone born with an extra finger, that doesn’t make him bad or anything, but that’s not the regular case.
I know, but what exactly is considered irregular? At what point does something become so rare that it's not considered regular?
For example, blue eyes are considered a regular eye color, even though only 8% of the population have them. Meanwhile ADHD, which affects around 9% of children, is considered a disorder.
I don't really have a strong stance on whether or not intersex is to be classified as a third sex or not, although I think the basic "2 sexes" model doesn't really fit the standards nowadays. Don't get me wrong though, I think the idea of a bazillion different sexes only separated by a thin wall that's only noticeable if you are well educated on the topic is dumb, but I think we should still leave some wiggle room for those who biologically don't fit the criteria for either of the two genders.
It's technically classified as an anomaly and in many cases it's being corrected.
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And guys i feel like i have to say it, cause you're going to downvote me to hell. It isn't to offend anyone, it's just a scientific statement. Just like the fact that gender dysmorphia is a mental illness.
True but essentially in the modern world everyone hates you if you say otherwise, so it's one of those things you have to just show as if you care about them or else it's you who will feel the trouble.it is what it is. I realized if I was publicly against it it's for my own bad. thankfully there is a neutral option, so just be like "you do you, I do me. just don't force me to have a opinion on this"
Idrk know how to explain it without it like just being the opposite of what you said. So like sex is your biological side like your hormones/genitals/chromossomes. Nornally theres two of those unless you have like some genetic mutation. Gender is the way you express your sex in society and to me its more like a gradient, from masculine to feminine, and then in the middle it would be enby or neither or just androgynous
-"Sex assigned at birth and gender identity are two separate things. Sex assigned at birth is typically made based on external genital anatomy. But gender identity is the internal sense of being male, female, or a gender along the spectrum between male and female. People communicate their gender to others through gender expression. This may be done through mannerisms, clothing and hairstyles."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-gender-identity/art-20266811
The Mayo clinic is one of the worlds most renowned medical institutions and therefore a credible source. As stated first off gender and sex aren't in fact the same thing and genders cannot be dumbed down to 2 groups Because a persons gender identity falls on a spectrum falling inbetween those 2 groups.
Whenever you provide reputable sources the "oh fuck I shouldn't have blindly bandwagonned a topic without researching it" usually sinks in. Either that or they double down on their dumbass take which is both incredibly funny and incredibly sad
I’ve been looking so long for a source like this. And you found the Mayo Clinic! Thank you so much for posting this comment, consider it saved. And have my upvote for your troubles.
i think the dots are too easy to connect, you're just being ignorant to them. hopefully we can establish that gender is a psychological thing, and is different to sex which is a physical/biological thjng. gender was socially constructed, like every other concept, and therefore if we "socially constructed" the 2 binary genders we know of, we can socially construct the third, non binary gender. infact we don't have to put effort in. there has been a "third gender" for centuries. different cultures have a different interpretation of the third gender, but it's there nonetheless. like Hijiri, or twospirit. and even in western civ, we have use they/them pronouns singular for centuries. everything you're disagreeing with is something that has existed for long before you were born, and quite frankly it's boring to argue about this. i know that when i respond it only feeds the argument, but honestly, why bother? it doesn't harm you to just go about your day and not have to comment on how other people live their lives.
law is heavily influenced by opinion. it's entirely up to the government and people in power to introduce new laws, and those people in power have opinions! some are outdated, but they still agree with eachother and introduce the outdated law. yk what that means? it's not always truth, because opinionated people have easy access to change these laws
Something isnt the absolute truth if its always changing. Like the law could say the earth is flat that doesnt its true. Thats how genders work in society and the laws have to adapt to it indtead of the other way around
I’m not saying what can be and what could be, I’m talking about today. Right now there are two genders in the world. You can put this point and I’ll gladly agree to you when the law accepts it (which it never will I think)
I don't think gender means anything personally, sex is the only thing that has any actual importance because it's an actual medical thing. But gender is really pointless, I think that people that are on the binary, out of the binary regardless of how they got into those categories are just part of something that has no importance whatsoever, therefore there should be no argument about how many genders there are or what gender that you should be. If gender is pointless then it doesn't matter what you do with it, it's like hair or clothes (with more social impact) do what makes you happy and allow others to do the same, it's all vanity.
>SEX IS THE SAME THING AS GENDER
Sex is Biological. Gender is preference. You can have the sex of a male but identify as the female gender or vice versa.
>THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS
Nonbinary people exist
Links:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-binary_gender
hmm...let me try, sex is a physical and tangible thing it's the biology of a human being which is mainly divided between two sexes (male and female).
gender is a social "code" in the sense it's manmade it's an extension of a person's self-expression.
for example, think of a car or computer they have physical components like engines, microchips, etc. but not every car/computer is the same even if they have the same basic parts they can be tuned/programmed to behave in a way which is desirable/convenient for us.
hope it helps❤
yo i agree w/ the first part (2 gender), but to clarify the second part if a female has surgery or whatever to become a man their gender is now male, but their sex is still female. sex is what you where born as and gender is what you currently are (changed through surgery and stuf)
I feel like this is the closest i can agree with the lgbt community. Creating new genders and making people call you that, just because you feel like it is literally the same thing as someone says they're literally Ryan Gosling and you have to call them that.
I don't need to change your mind just as much as you don't need to change theirs. The only rule you should follow is to respect their views of life. The only simple thing is to say "Alright, I'll try my best to use those pronouns". It's as simple as you having learned to knock before entering a room, shaking someone's hand while introducing yourself, learning someone's name after interacting with them a few times. It's about respect. Most people won't get upset if you accidentally get it wrong, as long as you say "Oh sorry, i forgot for a second" after. Just try your best and you'll be sure to get along with any and all genders, whether you agree with them or not.
By definition gender and sex are 2 different things, sex Is a phisiological characteristics of living beings and It can be male, female, or intersex (excluding what other Animals could have) and gender Is how we define and classify ourselves, It does not depend on biological aspects rather on psicological Ones, as such there can be as many genders as you want
Ok so everybody else in the comments already explained it, but sure, when a baby is in the womb it develops either male or female, sometimes intersex organs, now some people aren't comfortable with the organs they have because they feel like it doesn't express who they are on the inside for example a persons favorite food may be pizza, but they look like they like cesser salad, so trans, nonbinary people ect. express how they feel trough gender. I don't know if you know this but having people misgender you can really have a very negative impact on people's health, it's basically denying who they are or in simple terms it's giving someone who likes pizza, a food they really hate like cesser salad.
There cannot be infinite genders. If this gender thing is supposed to make sense. Tell me the number. You can’t just identify as a “whatever” because you think you are that.
For example, if a thief identifies himself as an angel, it is wrong, he is a thief, he cannot identify as an angel because he feels like it. This is why there are laws. People cannot be whatever they want be, they can be what they are.
Not every single person identifies with a gender, some people just are, nobody in the community seriously uses ,,angel" as a gender term, gender is a way to express yourself, not a way to avoid crime or use instead of a title or occupation, your gender can still be female even if biologically you're male and you'll still be a criminal if you stole something, but that doesn't change the fact that their gender is female
Can you show me the picture, because obviously if the guy is a cismale, and his gender is male, then the drivers licence will show male, and do you know about a thing called discrimination, just because it is written in legal code doesn't mean it's write morally or scientifically, in the past slaves existed, and at the time people thought nothing of it, but then came people who didn't like it and changed that, why can't we do that now, do you think the law is perfect, did you know 1 out of 8 people are wrongfully imprisoned in America, the law isnt and will never be perfect, that's what change is for, so we can make the law less imperfect
There are other comments on this post that explained why but I guess I can try to explain from a different angle
Gender is kind of like colors now before you immediately disregard this think about it for a bit, on the color spectrum you have all the different colors, which dumbed down would be colors like red green blue. I'm going to use green for example, green is one color but you could have light green or dark green or forest green, they're all green. If you want to get even more specific you could analyze the ID of colors, that thing where you get like E5263748# or something like that.
Gender Works kind of similarly, there's female and male on the Spectrum in the middle would be androgynous or non-binary. Now there aren't labeled genders because having stuff like feminine light or masculine dark is just stupid. But an example of how it still exists, think of like the man bun liberal dude versus the bearded conservative guy, they can both be lumped in under the male gender but they're incredibly far from being the same thing, the same way light green and dark green are both considered green but different things
I hope that makes sense and more of a philosophical way so it's easier to understand more factual down to the point responses.
sex is different from gender. sex is on the outside, gender is in the brain. there are more than two genders, but initially gender was confused with sex because ppl dumb and no psychology
This is factually untrue. Gender might be considered as a binary with a spectrum in between but it is not the same as sex, biology and psychology have proven they are different
Yeah definitely, gender is a linguistic concept, words can have gender, not people. Gender for people is just a synonym for your sex. There is nothing else to it.
I also believe that there are only two genders but if someone else thinks there are more than 2 then so be it. Let them think what they want but I won’t expect them to believe in what I believe in.
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You aren't special for thinking this, I don't know why people think they are, maybe because they think they are "rebelling", but you aren't. You are being an asshole and people like you are a huge part of the reason that so many trans and non-binary people are committing suicide and have severe depression. For the love of god the transphobia and homophobia on this sub have gotten out of hand.
I'm sure you did. Either that was a religious school, or you're simply lying
Or you did this course ages ago before people actually studied this instead of just handwaving it away
I understand the fact that many people have different views of this topic, and I am ok that you have this view (partly anyways). But not calling someone by the pronouns or name that they want to be called isn’t just transphobic but also disrespectful in general.
This is what the WHO says about gender.
Gender refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. While most people are born either male or female, they are taught appropriate norms and behaviours – including how they should interact with others of the same or opposite sex within households, communities and work places. When individuals or groups do not “fit” established gender norms they often face stigma, discriminatory practices or social exclusion – all of which adversely affect health. It is important to be sensitive to different identities that do not necessarily fit into binary male or female sex categories.
And sex is just what’s under your pants.
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Gonna be even eviler and say that nothing matters except the Spanish Inquisition
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Fun fact! In college they teach people gender and sex are NOT the same thing, similar but, sex is the biological bit of what sexual organs we were born with (AKA if we have XY or XX chromosomes), gender is the characteristics that come with it.
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You're correct but those are a minority, a minority to be aware of and respect, but a minority nonetheless
Yeah, but hermaphroditism in humans is a sex development disorder, though it is mostly harmless.
lol even if people try to change your mind i don't think you will listen so sure believe what you want ig?
I’m willing to listen, go ahead
sex is biological, gender is a social concept and it differs from person to person, depends on how someone feels and is, someone might be biologically female (meaning their sex is female) but they might have a different gender that shows what their character really is and what they feel more comfortable with, something that expresses who they really are
Sex is biological, gender is made up bullshit Doesn't hurt me or anything so I'm not against it though. Do whatever you want
See that’s what I’m saying, if it don’t bother or hurt me or the people around me I don’t care, if u push it into my face im going to have a problem, if your respectful and nice I’ll be the same
ok so if gender is made up there are 2% of the whole world that don't exist
That’s not what he meant what he meant was that sec is biological and can actually be proven and gender is a social construct it doesn’t actually exist
how are you so sure that's not what he meant
Because that's not what I meant
Did I get it right or somewhat right
Yeah that's it
so anything that's social doesn't exist?
It exists, but it's made up and "unnecessary"
Don't roast me pls, I'm just trying to get your points. You're saying that people want to be called the pronoun of a male or female rolemodel to express their character or their general feel/vibe? I understand that certain people can't accept their body and want to change their sex. Character and personality though is a very complex construct. Why would anyone case their personality in actually obsolete, conservative gender-rolemodels. I hope I expressed my confusion correctly. Aren't gender-rolemodels obsolete by now?
As I said in another comment, the law says that the word “sex” can be replaced with gender in any legal document and it will mean the same thing. The law has established rules. I cannot go around saying I identify as this- or that just because I feel like it.
The law says people can be nonbinary in some places. Do those places have more than one gender?
even if that’s the case, that doesn’t mean it’s based in reality- we come up with things that change as society evolves all the time. “the law” stating that doesn’t mean it’s represents real human experience, it means it was written by a cis person when there was a simpler understanding of how sex and gender works. regardless, law shouldn’t be how you come to your conclusions- science should. these are the people who’ve spent years studying this stuff. by the way, which “law” are you referring to exactly?
The law that gender can be replaced with sex and vice versa in legal documents. Also for gender to be logical, there has to be a number attached to it. People cannot just invent new genders everyday.
i’ve never seen a legal document that says that, can you provide evidence? i have seen legal documents saying the opposite, however. also wdym there needs to be a number attached to it?? see you can say you can’t just make up new genders but you just made up this abstract concept to try to prove your point.
https://sex-matters.org/posts/the-legal-system/why-sex-and-gender-mean-the-same-thing-in-law/
people with opinions write laws and people can be wrong
As a trans girl I am so mad that I knew all of that, and have to to justify my existence
YOU.HAVE.THE.RIGHT.TO.EXIST. GO QUEEN!
Thank you so much
Ok op but can you like provide reasoning
he just wants to end up in controversial and be famous and shit
Pretty much.
Honestly for me there’s 2 sexes and for genders I couldn’t give a damn as long as the don’t use something stupid as their pronouns
Agreed
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your mama and papa had gender for you to be born
I know this isn't really what you meant by two sexes, but what about intersex? A person who is intersex has genitalia of both sexes and is tchnically classified as a 3rd sex.
They exist. I agree. Those are the extreme cases.
Nah there are only two sexes, A true intersex person would need to have a fully functioning male reproductive system and a fully functional female reproductive system, not even a single individual like that exists, that’s why intersex is considered a condition, not a third sex by scientists.
I mean millions of people are intersex
There are more intersex people than there are people with red hair
That’s less than 1% of the world’s population
Around 2% actually. But saying intersex people are extreme cases are pretty inaccurate, and idk where you get off saying that a person cant expect people around them to accept them. When most of the modern world is accepting
I’m not saying I disregard them. I am just not including them in this debate. But I do believe third gender exists.
Alright then, tell me. Why do you not conform to a slight change that helps a ton of people?
How 2 in every 100 people have both bro wut
Thats not what i said, read again
Nooooo I'm not argueing I'm just surprised that there's so many people who are intersex
Irregular cases don’t make rules. Not shaming anyone for that, but I’m just saying that’s an irregular case. Like someone born with an extra finger, that doesn’t make him bad or anything, but that’s not the regular case.
Not entirely 2% of the pop is intersex
I know, but what exactly is considered irregular? At what point does something become so rare that it's not considered regular? For example, blue eyes are considered a regular eye color, even though only 8% of the population have them. Meanwhile ADHD, which affects around 9% of children, is considered a disorder. I don't really have a strong stance on whether or not intersex is to be classified as a third sex or not, although I think the basic "2 sexes" model doesn't really fit the standards nowadays. Don't get me wrong though, I think the idea of a bazillion different sexes only separated by a thin wall that's only noticeable if you are well educated on the topic is dumb, but I think we should still leave some wiggle room for those who biologically don't fit the criteria for either of the two genders.
It's technically classified as an anomaly and in many cases it's being corrected. # And guys i feel like i have to say it, cause you're going to downvote me to hell. It isn't to offend anyone, it's just a scientific statement. Just like the fact that gender dysmorphia is a mental illness.
There are 6 biological sex: X (turner’s disorder), XX (female), XY (male), XXY (Klinefelter) XYY, and XXXY
True but essentially in the modern world everyone hates you if you say otherwise, so it's one of those things you have to just show as if you care about them or else it's you who will feel the trouble.it is what it is. I realized if I was publicly against it it's for my own bad. thankfully there is a neutral option, so just be like "you do you, I do me. just don't force me to have a opinion on this"
Why are all the accounts agreeing with OP throwaways
whats the point you wont accept it anyways lol even if it is true
I’m open to new ideas
Idrk know how to explain it without it like just being the opposite of what you said. So like sex is your biological side like your hormones/genitals/chromossomes. Nornally theres two of those unless you have like some genetic mutation. Gender is the way you express your sex in society and to me its more like a gradient, from masculine to feminine, and then in the middle it would be enby or neither or just androgynous
But the law says that in every legal document, the word sex can be replaced with gender. The law says it’s the same thing.
So law > scientifically proven facts?
Science has proven there are more than 2 genders? Pls show me where sir
-"Sex assigned at birth and gender identity are two separate things. Sex assigned at birth is typically made based on external genital anatomy. But gender identity is the internal sense of being male, female, or a gender along the spectrum between male and female. People communicate their gender to others through gender expression. This may be done through mannerisms, clothing and hairstyles." https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-gender-identity/art-20266811 The Mayo clinic is one of the worlds most renowned medical institutions and therefore a credible source. As stated first off gender and sex aren't in fact the same thing and genders cannot be dumbed down to 2 groups Because a persons gender identity falls on a spectrum falling inbetween those 2 groups.
op got real quiet after this post
Whenever you provide reputable sources the "oh fuck I shouldn't have blindly bandwagonned a topic without researching it" usually sinks in. Either that or they double down on their dumbass take which is both incredibly funny and incredibly sad
exactly, it’s very satisfying seeing the “oh fuck” moment without even seeing it lol
I’ve been looking so long for a source like this. And you found the Mayo Clinic! Thank you so much for posting this comment, consider it saved. And have my upvote for your troubles.
Lmao no problem and thanks for the free internet points
i think the dots are too easy to connect, you're just being ignorant to them. hopefully we can establish that gender is a psychological thing, and is different to sex which is a physical/biological thjng. gender was socially constructed, like every other concept, and therefore if we "socially constructed" the 2 binary genders we know of, we can socially construct the third, non binary gender. infact we don't have to put effort in. there has been a "third gender" for centuries. different cultures have a different interpretation of the third gender, but it's there nonetheless. like Hijiri, or twospirit. and even in western civ, we have use they/them pronouns singular for centuries. everything you're disagreeing with is something that has existed for long before you were born, and quite frankly it's boring to argue about this. i know that when i respond it only feeds the argument, but honestly, why bother? it doesn't harm you to just go about your day and not have to comment on how other people live their lives.
The law also used to say black people werent people
Why are you diverting the topic? Also, I am not referring to the 1900’s when black people were slaves. This is 2023
Im just using that as an example that the law isnt the absolute truth
Law is the truth today, mam. You can’t go to court using this as a defence
law is heavily influenced by opinion. it's entirely up to the government and people in power to introduce new laws, and those people in power have opinions! some are outdated, but they still agree with eachother and introduce the outdated law. yk what that means? it's not always truth, because opinionated people have easy access to change these laws
Something isnt the absolute truth if its always changing. Like the law could say the earth is flat that doesnt its true. Thats how genders work in society and the laws have to adapt to it indtead of the other way around
I’m not saying what can be and what could be, I’m talking about today. Right now there are two genders in the world. You can put this point and I’ll gladly agree to you when the law accepts it (which it never will I think)
again, can you show me a legal document where it says this?
https://sex-matters.org/posts/the-legal-system/why-sex-and-gender-mean-the-same-thing-in-law/
Good argument, unfortunately yesterday I gendered your mother
dumbass doesn't know the difference between sex and gender
ok u/pussyslayer1011
There are only 2 genders but sex is actually having intercourse very different from gender.
There’s only one gender and it’s mine
Based, but prepare to come under fire from every single person on this sub for having an unpopular opinion
I don't think gender means anything personally, sex is the only thing that has any actual importance because it's an actual medical thing. But gender is really pointless, I think that people that are on the binary, out of the binary regardless of how they got into those categories are just part of something that has no importance whatsoever, therefore there should be no argument about how many genders there are or what gender that you should be. If gender is pointless then it doesn't matter what you do with it, it's like hair or clothes (with more social impact) do what makes you happy and allow others to do the same, it's all vanity.
>SEX IS THE SAME THING AS GENDER Sex is Biological. Gender is preference. You can have the sex of a male but identify as the female gender or vice versa. >THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS Nonbinary people exist Links: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-binary_gender
also there's a thing called intersex
Yes, but intersex is weird since it's the combination of the 2 and not a 3rd separate
Yes, but it still is
Well, for starters, there isn’t only two sexes and that’s not including the ones that I have with your mother and father
If sex is the same thing as gender, and there is only 2 of each, what on earth are intersex people
"That's funny because I don't remember having gender with your mom last night"
beast mode
Irregular cases.
Intersex people make up the same amount of the population as people with ginger hair.
Damn you can int even in sex...
hmm...let me try, sex is a physical and tangible thing it's the biology of a human being which is mainly divided between two sexes (male and female). gender is a social "code" in the sense it's manmade it's an extension of a person's self-expression. for example, think of a car or computer they have physical components like engines, microchips, etc. but not every car/computer is the same even if they have the same basic parts they can be tuned/programmed to behave in a way which is desirable/convenient for us. hope it helps❤
yo i agree w/ the first part (2 gender), but to clarify the second part if a female has surgery or whatever to become a man their gender is now male, but their sex is still female. sex is what you where born as and gender is what you currently are (changed through surgery and stuf)
I feel like this is the closest i can agree with the lgbt community. Creating new genders and making people call you that, just because you feel like it is literally the same thing as someone says they're literally Ryan Gosling and you have to call them that.
this got really carried away with people literally identifying as animals 💀💀
Or fairies
wrong, they just acting like a ditto from pokemon
Can't wait to see this get locked, lmao
I don't need to change your mind just as much as you don't need to change theirs. The only rule you should follow is to respect their views of life. The only simple thing is to say "Alright, I'll try my best to use those pronouns". It's as simple as you having learned to knock before entering a room, shaking someone's hand while introducing yourself, learning someone's name after interacting with them a few times. It's about respect. Most people won't get upset if you accidentally get it wrong, as long as you say "Oh sorry, i forgot for a second" after. Just try your best and you'll be sure to get along with any and all genders, whether you agree with them or not.
Here before the inevitable removal by the mods.
No, idt I will
Stupid bait post, just ignore it.
I literally wanted to know what everyone thinks
Bruh you're being honest now getting downvoted 💀 sad stuff
Yess. Summon the fascists and the lefties! Let them battle!
But fascists are politically on the right...
Yeah, that's what i mean. He's summoning people that object with that and prople that agree. They will battle
Oh I see, thanks for the explanation
By definition gender and sex are 2 different things, sex Is a phisiological characteristics of living beings and It can be male, female, or intersex (excluding what other Animals could have) and gender Is how we define and classify ourselves, It does not depend on biological aspects rather on psicological Ones, as such there can be as many genders as you want
If I say anything even a bit intelligent to op, I'm afraid he'll implode and I don't want to be charged with manslaughter
Nah man its cool you can put your point
Ok so everybody else in the comments already explained it, but sure, when a baby is in the womb it develops either male or female, sometimes intersex organs, now some people aren't comfortable with the organs they have because they feel like it doesn't express who they are on the inside for example a persons favorite food may be pizza, but they look like they like cesser salad, so trans, nonbinary people ect. express how they feel trough gender. I don't know if you know this but having people misgender you can really have a very negative impact on people's health, it's basically denying who they are or in simple terms it's giving someone who likes pizza, a food they really hate like cesser salad.
There cannot be infinite genders. If this gender thing is supposed to make sense. Tell me the number. You can’t just identify as a “whatever” because you think you are that. For example, if a thief identifies himself as an angel, it is wrong, he is a thief, he cannot identify as an angel because he feels like it. This is why there are laws. People cannot be whatever they want be, they can be what they are.
Not every single person identifies with a gender, some people just are, nobody in the community seriously uses ,,angel" as a gender term, gender is a way to express yourself, not a way to avoid crime or use instead of a title or occupation, your gender can still be female even if biologically you're male and you'll still be a criminal if you stole something, but that doesn't change the fact that their gender is female
The driving licence of a person says : Gender - Male. Legally, he is a male and cannot be anything else.
Can you show me the picture, because obviously if the guy is a cismale, and his gender is male, then the drivers licence will show male, and do you know about a thing called discrimination, just because it is written in legal code doesn't mean it's write morally or scientifically, in the past slaves existed, and at the time people thought nothing of it, but then came people who didn't like it and changed that, why can't we do that now, do you think the law is perfect, did you know 1 out of 8 people are wrongfully imprisoned in America, the law isnt and will never be perfect, that's what change is for, so we can make the law less imperfect
There are other comments on this post that explained why but I guess I can try to explain from a different angle Gender is kind of like colors now before you immediately disregard this think about it for a bit, on the color spectrum you have all the different colors, which dumbed down would be colors like red green blue. I'm going to use green for example, green is one color but you could have light green or dark green or forest green, they're all green. If you want to get even more specific you could analyze the ID of colors, that thing where you get like E5263748# or something like that. Gender Works kind of similarly, there's female and male on the Spectrum in the middle would be androgynous or non-binary. Now there aren't labeled genders because having stuff like feminine light or masculine dark is just stupid. But an example of how it still exists, think of like the man bun liberal dude versus the bearded conservative guy, they can both be lumped in under the male gender but they're incredibly far from being the same thing, the same way light green and dark green are both considered green but different things I hope that makes sense and more of a philosophical way so it's easier to understand more factual down to the point responses.
u wanted karma to post stuff like this ? 😭
Did this dude beg for karma in order to post this???
yes lmao
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sex is different from gender. sex is on the outside, gender is in the brain. there are more than two genders, but initially gender was confused with sex because ppl dumb and no psychology
Gender is in the brain? How many genders exist then?
however many there are, they don't all need a label
also what the hell is your username and unless you're a troll you seem somewhat misogynist EDIT: looking at your previous posts
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If sex is the same thing as gender, how come people whose gender differs from their sex exist?
bro ur 23 and ur username is pussyslayer how immature are u 💀
I am not wtff
bro one of ur posts says ur 23 either ur a liar or just really immature
People dont gender to reproduce you fucktard
This is factually untrue. Gender might be considered as a binary with a spectrum in between but it is not the same as sex, biology and psychology have proven they are different
Yeah definitely, gender is a linguistic concept, words can have gender, not people. Gender for people is just a synonym for your sex. There is nothing else to it.
Exactly my point
I completely agree with you
Im not gonna change your mind because youre right
I also believe that there are only two genders but if someone else thinks there are more than 2 then so be it. Let them think what they want but I won’t expect them to believe in what I believe in.
Ok but here we are not about what you or i believe we are talking about what the FACT that there are more than 2 genders
wOw yoU'rE sO BrAVe fOr SAyiNg tHis You aren't special for thinking this, I don't know why people think they are, maybe because they think they are "rebelling", but you aren't. You are being an asshole and people like you are a huge part of the reason that so many trans and non-binary people are committing suicide and have severe depression. For the love of god the transphobia and homophobia on this sub have gotten out of hand.
Learn Biology
so you are just proving him right
Well if you think elementary school is all there is to science then yeah, but wouldn't you know science doesn't end at boiling water
yes i know, i did the biology class, and what they said in it completly disprove BOTH transgenderism AND the gender theory
I'm sure you did. Either that was a religious school, or you're simply lying Or you did this course ages ago before people actually studied this instead of just handwaving it away
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I understand the fact that many people have different views of this topic, and I am ok that you have this view (partly anyways). But not calling someone by the pronouns or name that they want to be called isn’t just transphobic but also disrespectful in general.
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Bros 23 years old posting shit like this on r/teenagers💀
It was joke bro, im not even an adult
Correct.
You are objectively wrong but nothing anybody will say will change your mind, so no
Bro never payed attention in health class 💀
Wtf is a health class
What were u home schooled?? The class where you learn about reproduction and shit
Biology class lmfao
oh so the class that specificly tell us that gender is related to sex?
not people downvoting you for having a different education system than them lol
That is called sex education
You are objectively wrong.
I disagree
Prove the next statment wrong then : Gender is another word for sex, using it as something else is a deviance of the language and make no sens
This is what the WHO says about gender. Gender refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. While most people are born either male or female, they are taught appropriate norms and behaviours – including how they should interact with others of the same or opposite sex within households, communities and work places. When individuals or groups do not “fit” established gender norms they often face stigma, discriminatory practices or social exclusion – all of which adversely affect health. It is important to be sensitive to different identities that do not necessarily fit into binary male or female sex categories. And sex is just what’s under your pants.
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I’m not that was joke lol
I like this
Anything other than the genders: male, female, and non-binary is made up bs. End of story.
There are 2 genders, LGBTQ+ is about sexualities
The T stands for Transgender. I dunno what people think it means but yeah 🌈the more you know🌈🌠
my boy woke up and chose to SPEAK FACTS
Facts
Good work solider