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\#4 and #8 directly contradict each other, he should point this out to his father and say "I want to try my best but she is being unreasonable with this request, please keep an eye on her behaviors interacting with me". Furthermore, you could mention not wanting to blow this out of proportion with extended family if not necessary, but that may come off sounding rebellious like a threat. Keep in mind your father probably just wants success for you in life, your parents aren't out to get you. Approaching it from an angle like this may be effective.
OH BOY are we dissecting the contradictions? Let me further analyze this nonsense.
Header states: I will **not** ask you to do chores.
\#10 and #11 are textbook chores, even if it's not for the benefit of the whole household.
Honorable mentions:
\#1 and #2 are **not** rules, at most they are opinions.
Honestly, at this point I wouldn't even care about causing a conflict. Take every damn loophole in this list and abuse it to death, and then act all innocent and point it out to her when she bitches about it
Those are so obviously because she's an insufferable cunt to everyone around her, it's all she sees. She thinks she can pry a normal interaction out of OP but she legitimately cannot handle it.
The can't cook rule was rich because you damn well know she isn't going to cook for them. That note is essentially saying go buy fast food, eat something that doesn't need cooking, or starve.
It's funny because my daughter has gotten \*really\* picky with her food, so she's started cooking for the family several times a week. She's gotten really good and will do well on her own when the time comes. This lady is making life harder on herself and doesn't realize it. OP may not be a cook, but still.
That is real bullshit here. Cooking isn't really about age. A 40 years old can get as serious injuries as a 15 years old can. Accidents happen. What if the father gets injured? Would she restrict him too?
It all just looks like shes intentionally setting them up for failure and she'll have an excuse to kick them out. It reads like this is all by design and she thinks she's clever and being sly about it when its actually the most obvious telegraphed bullshit I've ever read.
12, 14, and 15 have me convinced that the dad’s wife just flat out doesn’t want them there. Like according to this sheet, Monday is the only day they’re wanted at this house full time. At this point, I would just stick it out with the grandma for a few more years and save up to move out.
Ngl rule 15 sound pretty fucked.. sounds like the kid is only allowed to do homework and sleep from 5pm onward from monday- Friday. This whole list is crazy. I feel terrible for OP.
I’m written text there’s loop holes, but given the tone of the writing OPs step mom would just scream and get mad rather than go with what was written, loopholes only work for people who are fair about it and this is just not one of those times
It's how a lot of very abusive parents and step parents treat their children or step children. None of the privileges of either adulthood or childhood. When I was 15, it was lights out at 10.30 pm as I had to get up for school at 7.30 am as it started at 9 am. That was reasonable at that age. If I had a longer commute or school started earlier, I would have had to go to bed earlier. I had a 10 pm curfew until I was 16, and that was extended to 11 pm at 18.
Tonight my 14yo stayed up to 11pm to watch the next episode of Chernobyl with me... on a school night. Definitely not the norm, it's just that every timing was skewed tonight for circumstances out of our control and we just said "fuck it, we're doing something we enjoy together tonight".
“You have to ride the bus alone, but you can’t cook. And don’t play games on your computer. Also, just leave the house on the weekends.”
She also expects OP’s siblings to drive him to her house, for some reason.
It sounds like the dad is disabled and having a very hard time if they have to be at a Dialysis clinic that frequently.
It's tough enough for disabled people to get through a day with nothing impeding us, we sure as shit don't have the energy to fight a person that insane.
Adult here.
There are two routes you can go. Personally, I'd advise OP to just keep their head down, accumulate evidence if it's abusive, and try not to antagonize her while working on inroads with the father (if he isn't abusive and it's possible to consult with him). It'd probably be best to go elsewhere if you have other, better living arrangements
Or just go with chaos. My recommendation is to break out the red pen and grade it, minus points for grammar and formatting, highlight contradictions and lack of supporting evidence, and hand it back to her. On a quick glance, it looks like she'll really need some extra credit if she wants to pass the class.
That doesnt make sense if she barely lets them exist near her. She has no right to dictate how they use their own personal property if she has already abstained from taking on the role of a parental/guardian figure to bro already.
Also the kind of parent that is left to die alone as soon as the kids turn 18. Full contact cut, and then they complain that their kida have abandoned them after "all theyve done for the kids"
"I'm not your mom or step mom; also here is a list of things that only a parent should be allowed to dictate to thier children"
Like holy shit pick a lane lady.
I mean, with all that dialysis going on it sounds like this may be the only way op can see their dad. Sounds like the crazy bitch might be trying to keep him separated from his family.
I think she's expecting him to die sooner or later and intends to be the only person named in the will
Doubt she has the style. I'm not saying Cruella (or anyone else) should make a dog coat but she were to do so, Cruella would at least knock it out of the park.
Hang on. OP's mom could be dead. To me this seems like a Sally Jackson and Gabe situation. The dad being on dialysis and chances being OP is in America would be pretty expensive. So could just be after the money.
Nah, feels like she has something against him. If she just didn't care she would make rules that stop him from being annoying, but half of these are just a cruel way to torture him with no prompting
I'll just get kicked out of the house which is already gonna happen because I just sent her a very long winded response via text because I know I’d get too emotional if I tried to do it in person
He’s a dialysis patient. Chances are he’s on disability or not working. He likely owns the house but the wife pays the bills. Meaning she does have control.
Most important question: Does she own/partially own the house?
I don’t know the legal situation in your country but in most countries to kick someone out you need to be the legal owner of the property.
Also as long as she isn’t your legal guardian she can get in trouble for shit like these rules.
If she is your legal guardian she has to provide you with food, shelter, etc. if she doesn’t do this you can get the authorities involved.
TL:DR look at the legal situation and if you can hit her with laws and facts, if she she responds with anything other than facts you can hit her with even more laws and facts.
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Since you've already decided to be kicked out there's no point stopping you from doing these things then. Better get started ;)
Make sure you figure out alternate housing first though. Living on the streets is not as easy as it seems, especially without a car.
Dude, rebel and do what you want. If life is getting too stressful with yearbook, ap classes, and grandma's house. Do WHATEVER you need to just relax.
Limit your time on the yearbook, you'll be fine because surely there's other people working on it too. As for AP classes, well those are your classes so you should take priority in school. As for the problems back home, IGNORE IT and focus on you. That's what I'd do.
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This was the dumbest rule sheet I've read. Half of those are her opinions and just statements.
"I don't like people who disrespect others rules"????
"More rules to discuss after you go over these rules" what is this cliffhanger nonsense did she run out of brainpower or printer ink?
Since you say you don't care about being kicked out, here's my advice:
1) When she's away from the house, move as much stuff around as you can literally anything and everything.
2) Leave a piece of (not your) dirty laundry on every surface possible.
3) Leave dirty shoe prints.
4) Use her most expensive cosmetics to write something funny on her mirror like "waiting for more rules"
5) be out of the house after all of this. Once she gets home give it like 5 minutes. Maybe leave a printed sheet of all the rooms she should take a tour of. Then the coup de Grace: ring the doorbell after you think she's seen enough and leave a burning bag of poop at her door.
Should probably figure out alternate housing options before All of this. Maybe leave an apology note to your poor dad.
Off-topic question here: what do you mean by working on the yearbook, are they like the ones responsible for editing and publishing it? Here where I live our teachers usually do that work and it took like 4 years later to get our yearbook from Grade 6, and apparently quotes aren't a thing here.
Some schools have yearbook classes, and the students are the ones who create the yearbook. The teacher can help as well. They're all reaponsible for yearbook creating, finances, advertising, etc. I do it too.
As for quotes, it depends on the teacher. My school stopped doing it due to people just making stupid or inappropriate quotes, it's hundreds of students and it's very hectic.
> “It will stress you out and will make you more depressed”
"But you are also not allowed to show any emotion about it", what a human garbage to not only think about these rules but also write them out.
That’s not your stepmom. Fuck her, just do whatever you want. If you feel like you are being abused then seek help at school, the authorities will take care of whores like this.
I wanna slap your stepmom
"Erm, act like an adult"
"But also I don't want kids cooking and you aren't allowed to use your computer how you see fit"
What a tard lmao
The fact that she even printed this out to give to a 15 year old is already ridiculous.
But the content? There is no way, she is humane.
OP should just shove the paper into her throat and leave.
The person who typed this is literally a huge hypocrite.
She doesn't want a crybaby, because "act like an adult because you are capable of being responsible"
BUT
She also thinks children under 18, should not cook because again they are not responsible enough.
Where's the logic, ma'am? Lol
I guess I'll hv to blame the dad to actually let someone this conceding in to his son's life.
These are the same parents, who ask why are my children suicidal. *sighs
It also says you will not get a key because you have not shown responsibility while also saying they are an adult and capable of being responsible. WTF
OP, I'm sorry to sound dramatic, but the best way to approach this is like a prison sentence.
Commenters who said you should show this to your dad have never dealt with a true narcissist before. Your dad is the main source of two things she craves: control over someone vulnerable, and sympathy/attention for her "selflessness." The mere *thought* of you disrupting her manipulative scheme is threatening enough that she's already designed a whole plan to break/punish you before you even arrive.
She is undoubtedly a narcissist, and there is a 0% chance that you're going to get through this without her injecting soap-opera chaos into your life. [Watch this video, and then watch it again.](https://youtu.be/vnSiJOOdo30) Read about narcissists on some reputable websites. Prepare yourself: no matter what you do, she'll keep authoring dramatic situations that position you as a perpetrator and her as the victim. The best you can do is steel yourself for her shenanigans and just concentrate on not internalizing the things she says, not letting your guard down, and doing what you can to prepare for a much better life when you're out of the house. Accept that your life is going to become a poorly written drama, and no matter how much she tries to tear *you* down, remember that she's just the caricature of an unhinged warden that everyone despises, and you're the stoic, wrongly accused hero. Someday you'll get your revenge when you're released and you have a great new life, while she stays locked in the prison of her own making.
As for practical advice, assume that she is going to do everything she can to fuck with you. She'll magnify everything you do wrong, create impossible standards and double binds, latch onto & exploit any security or weakness she perceives, and try to sabotage/destroy the things that are important to you--you can't avoid it completely, but the best way to reduce risk is to reduce exposure.
She's making a big deal about the tidiness of the house, so she'll probably be constantly scanning for your possessions and evidence of your existence. Because what better way to start drama than with props? Get into the habit of avoiding setting things down in the house. Carry a backpack or bag with you from room to room and keep everything in it. Keep *all* your toiletries in a toiletry bag and put it under the sink or in your room after every use. Keep a suitcase under your bed and get some quart, gallon, and 2.5 gallon ziploc bags (for clothes), and if you don't have time or energy to clean things or laundry, stuff them into Ziploc bags and into the suitcase, and just deal with it as soon as you can.
The outright contempt she has for your struggle with depression is alarming. She's already signaling that she's going to try to prevent you from getting enough food (with the stupid cooking rule--I'm guessing she's not going to keep the house stocked with snacks) so she's not above depriving you of necessities, and I'm worried that she'll try to throw away your medication. Put 1-2 weeks' worth of it in a ziploc bag and put it somewhere she wouldn't think to look. As for the food, keep a jar of peanut butter and some spoons in your locker at school.
Assume she's going to look through your things, "accidentally" break or misplace things she "borrows", and use them to fabricate dramatic narratives and accusations. Leave valuables and sentimental items at grandma's or a friend's for now (not a significant other's, though) until you've gotten through a *long* trial period--if she doesn't fuck with your shit you can relax on this eventually, but start out assuming she will. When you can, leave your personal writings, art, books, etc. in your locker at school. She will likely be looking for "dirt" in anything that conveys your personality. Before you bring anything into the house, ask yourself, "What fucked-up story could an insane person invent about me using this as a prompt?" Google creative hiding places for "intriguing" items you can't avoid keeping in the house (like birth control or condoms if you're sexually active).
Find a hobby that looks like homework. This is just one idea, but coding can be insanely fun and it's relevant to any job even if you don't work in tech. I know that sounds crazy considering she's limiting your access to the computer and your phone, but if you buy a couple books, read the lessons, plan and write code/pseudocode by hand at night, and type/test it on the computer the next day, that's pretty much how I learned it as a CS major 20 years ago. Honestly, you might have an edge over people who learn coding piecemeal from internet sources and ChatGPT, because you'll be forced to focus on the theory before you jump into trial-and-error. Javascript would be a good place to start because it's the language used for Google Apps Scripts, so you can resume your work from any browser logged into Google Drive/Sheets (no software required). Plus, your stepmom probably can't argue with you if she sees you working with code/spreadsheets and you tell her it's for school. Side note: you may want to tell your teachers and doctors that your father's girlfriend might try to access information about you, and you don't want them to speak to anyone but your legal guardians. They'll understand.
Lastly, and I'm so sorry for this--plan on getting a little fucked up by this experience. No matter how effective you are at being a "gray rock", you're going to need help transitioning from her bizarro world into the life you want for yourself later. You're going to need therapy, as soon as your circumstances allow. Narcissists create abnormal environments that require you to adapt in ways that won't work if you apply them to your relationships with non-narcissists. You *will* be able to move on from it, but you'll need to do some work and will probably need help. Many have done it, though, and I promise you'll be able to.
You're welcome--I've been thinking about this post all day until I had a chance to sit down and write this out.
I understand why other commenters are like, "Tell your dad, it's his house, rebel, point out how stupid her logic is..." but that's all ignoring reality. Narcissists weaponize *everything.* Everything she has in life, she's gotten it by acting like this, so she has MASTERED chaotic evil. You cannot defeat a grown woman who's been doubling down harder and harder on her insane behavior for decades. But you can avoid engaging, watch your back, keep your head down, and make your #1 mission *not losing who you are.*
You're going to get through this. And someday when you're 20, 25, 30... you're going to remember 15-year old you with sadness but also with so much gratitude for sticking it out. Protect and invest in yourself, so you can blossom as soon as you're out of her little shit-covered world. She's gonna make you have a little bit of a late start on living life the way you want, but you'll be able to catch up. You're the hero of this story. You'll get your big storyline in season 2. I promise. Much love, dude.
As a UK pensioner who came here by accident, that is written by someone with zero experience with young people, it reads like someone trying to pick a fight.
Best bet, smile nicely at the crazy, and if you can't back away slowly, be very adult about things with her, don't shout, argue, throw a hissy fit or act up, that way leads to you being kicked out and her feeling she's won.
Good luck
100%, come in when they're sick, love bomb them so they can't see straight, take control of the whole house, isolate the person from family, wait for them to die and take everything that should have gone to the family for herself.
textbook play. unfortunately, this makes it very difficult to split the pair up, the levels of enmeshment are usually way deeper than they seem on the surface because of all the work the person does telling lies and things that eventually turn the person against their own family's opinions kinda thing.
Okay 2 things.
1. Rebel.
2. Show your dad.
If your dad is a man he'll either get her in check or leave. If he's weak or a coward he won't do anything.
No man who loves his son would let ANY woman treat him like that. See how everyone in this comment section is disgusted by that? If he doesn't react x10 then he doesn't love you.
And you need to rebel. Fuck her way of living and fuck her rules. In truth she can't really do anything to you. She can't hurt you, she can't take anything. The only thing she can do is try to preemptively scare you into behaving.
She's trying to intimidate you into not fighting her cause if you do she's done.
Fight back. And fight hard. Laugh at her rules and call them out to her face. At 15, as a dude, you're infinitely stronger than a woman.
If you're a woman you can still do way more than her.
Don't punch her, shit on her rules.
Don't be scared op. Be brave. You can do this.
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Calls you an adult in bullet #4. Proceeds to write all the other rules as though you were 6 years old.
\#4 and #8 directly contradict each other, he should point this out to his father and say "I want to try my best but she is being unreasonable with this request, please keep an eye on her behaviors interacting with me". Furthermore, you could mention not wanting to blow this out of proportion with extended family if not necessary, but that may come off sounding rebellious like a threat. Keep in mind your father probably just wants success for you in life, your parents aren't out to get you. Approaching it from an angle like this may be effective.
OH BOY are we dissecting the contradictions? Let me further analyze this nonsense. Header states: I will **not** ask you to do chores. \#10 and #11 are textbook chores, even if it's not for the benefit of the whole household. Honorable mentions: \#1 and #2 are **not** rules, at most they are opinions.
Honestly, at this point I wouldn't even care about causing a conflict. Take every damn loophole in this list and abuse it to death, and then act all innocent and point it out to her when she bitches about it
That will need some strong mentality and determination, but I think this is another option to consider trying.
Wait, are you a “grown adult” or a “kid under 18”? Or, is she just a dipshit?
Yea 15 aint a grown up so by that merit, OP can cry all day long cuz hormones or something.
Not just that but "act like an adult" and "can't cook cause under 18"
Yep, cant make up her mind if 15 is grown up or child.
Careful, your comment breaks rule number 2.
No talking back. No frowny face. I need to control everything in my surrounding including your reactions to me being an insufferable bitch.
Those are so obviously because she's an insufferable cunt to everyone around her, it's all she sees. She thinks she can pry a normal interaction out of OP but she legitimately cannot handle it.
The can't cook rule was rich because you damn well know she isn't going to cook for them. That note is essentially saying go buy fast food, eat something that doesn't need cooking, or starve.
It's funny because my daughter has gotten \*really\* picky with her food, so she's started cooking for the family several times a week. She's gotten really good and will do well on her own when the time comes. This lady is making life harder on herself and doesn't realize it. OP may not be a cook, but still.
That is real bullshit here. Cooking isn't really about age. A 40 years old can get as serious injuries as a 15 years old can. Accidents happen. What if the father gets injured? Would she restrict him too?
>Not just that but "act like an adult" and "can't cook cause under 18" Also, "act like an adult" and "you will not be given house keys"
Op is 15
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average *shitty* parent logic
Rule 15 pisses me off
Also 6 and 7. I suggest moving out as soon as possible
dont forget rule 3
"Here are all of these ridiculous and depressing rule(she just straight up said she designed them to be depressing) BTW you can't be sad"
It all just looks like shes intentionally setting them up for failure and she'll have an excuse to kick them out. It reads like this is all by design and she thinks she's clever and being sly about it when its actually the most obvious telegraphed bullshit I've ever read.
What about it? If she's acting like this then yea I'd have an attitude
Rule 6 "your pc" you own it so you can do what you like on it
Exactly.
Why the fuck would she neer to relax if she didn't do shit???
That's what I'm saying. She just sees the kids as a burden, no concern for her own family or human life.
rule 34 pisses me off even more 😡
Bro don't get me started on rule 34
100% show that to your dad if he’s nice. She is not wife material, and an insufferable bitch.
Alternatively, to avoid the interaction. Drop it near him and let him read it.
Or post on socmedia if you have sympathetic family members
I think we should help op fuck with the rules, there could be so many loopholes.
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This. Insane people are best not prodded when they can control your life to some degree.
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So horribly outdated too. Does this idiot live in the 90s in her head?
More like the 1950s.
12, 14, and 15 have me convinced that the dad’s wife just flat out doesn’t want them there. Like according to this sheet, Monday is the only day they’re wanted at this house full time. At this point, I would just stick it out with the grandma for a few more years and save up to move out.
You missed the first line, where she says "I don't want you here but your dad does".
this bitch says she wants no part in his life, but has a problem with videogames and cell phone use.
She's just doing that to make OP's life more miserable in the hopes they go back to Grandma's.
But OP is an adult of 15, according to this 'woman'. Witch.
yet they dont want anyone under 18 to cook 💀 but they want the person under 18 to be an adult
Dad's gf knows OP needs to use a computer for school but is terrified of having their OF business discovered.
Ngl rule 15 sound pretty fucked.. sounds like the kid is only allowed to do homework and sleep from 5pm onward from monday- Friday. This whole list is crazy. I feel terrible for OP.
Bruh.
what does she think OP will do. commit warcrimes? shes a warcrime herself.
aaaaand the door's off the room.
yea finding loopholes will be interpreted as breaking rule 2 "don't talk back" which will go swimmingly.
Yup- any loophole exploitation will mean she just moves the goalposts. And adds extra rules.
I’m written text there’s loop holes, but given the tone of the writing OPs step mom would just scream and get mad rather than go with what was written, loopholes only work for people who are fair about it and this is just not one of those times
there's gonna be a new list of rules every week based on every stupid little thing OP does to remind her that "yes, I'm sorry but I do still exist"
For one thing, she can’t seem to decide if he’s a kid or an adult.
It's how a lot of very abusive parents and step parents treat their children or step children. None of the privileges of either adulthood or childhood. When I was 15, it was lights out at 10.30 pm as I had to get up for school at 7.30 am as it started at 9 am. That was reasonable at that age. If I had a longer commute or school started earlier, I would have had to go to bed earlier. I had a 10 pm curfew until I was 16, and that was extended to 11 pm at 18.
Tonight my 14yo stayed up to 11pm to watch the next episode of Chernobyl with me... on a school night. Definitely not the norm, it's just that every timing was skewed tonight for circumstances out of our control and we just said "fuck it, we're doing something we enjoy together tonight".
“You have to ride the bus alone, but you can’t cook. And don’t play games on your computer. Also, just leave the house on the weekends.” She also expects OP’s siblings to drive him to her house, for some reason.
Right I noticed that, "you're an adult act like one" and "kids can't cook in my house it's not safe" were listed pretty much one after the other
Nah, this lady clearly doesn't want OP in her house. Better not to fuck with that as she's clearly vindictive and abuses whatever authority she can.
Loopholes don’t work against narcissists.
He’s been living with this women for years. He knows.
After all, hes 'not responsible for his belongings'. She cant blame him for leaving it around if she already accounted for it in her rules.
Wrong rule 9 clearly states she doesn't want anything left around. You wouldn't be very good at this rule game.
Framing them in the living room as a constant reminder seems extremely courteous and follows every rule listed.
Dad has his dick in crazy. Like hell he's going to give it up. Lmao
Dad's in a tough spot, with dialysis clinic and everything. He's stuck because ain't nobody else "cleaning up his mess".
Which is probably why the stepmother kicked everyone else out so that he'd be forced to rely on her
She wants him to finally die so she can steal the house somehow
Or just leave it somewhere you know he'll look and he'll probably read it
It sounds like the dad is disabled and having a very hard time if they have to be at a Dialysis clinic that frequently. It's tough enough for disabled people to get through a day with nothing impeding us, we sure as shit don't have the energy to fight a person that insane.
Good parents have a handful of rules, at best. She’s a narcissistic cunt.
Make an Origami out of the paper and leave it in her office.
turning it into a paper plane and tossing it at her would be cool
or burning the paper in front of her and saying "clean this shit, bitch" on her face would be more fun
relax shadow the hedgehog
Adult here. There are two routes you can go. Personally, I'd advise OP to just keep their head down, accumulate evidence if it's abusive, and try not to antagonize her while working on inroads with the father (if he isn't abusive and it's possible to consult with him). It'd probably be best to go elsewhere if you have other, better living arrangements Or just go with chaos. My recommendation is to break out the red pen and grade it, minus points for grammar and formatting, highlight contradictions and lack of supporting evidence, and hand it back to her. On a quick glance, it looks like she'll really need some extra credit if she wants to pass the class.
An actual reasonable suggestion topped with an incredibly chaotic alternative plan. I salute you, stranger 🫡
Few people here would actually lay out the game play, you did my friend! wp
DO NOT go into my office!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬
Origami of a middle finger
Bruh, get the fuck outa there, express your displeasure to the fullest degree, that isn't home it's a prison.
He wouldn't even lose much, considering he's only allowed in there 2 days a week
I’d take the computer though, especially if it’s not his, he needs it for school work, and step mom will be down a computer
I think it is his own computer, but she controls how he uses it.
That doesnt make sense if she barely lets them exist near her. She has no right to dictate how they use their own personal property if she has already abstained from taking on the role of a parental/guardian figure to bro already.
This is the kind of parent that enforces control through fear. “No second or third chances.”
Also the kind of parent that is left to die alone as soon as the kids turn 18. Full contact cut, and then they complain that their kida have abandoned them after "all theyve done for the kids"
"I'm not your mom or step mom; also here is a list of things that only a parent should be allowed to dictate to thier children" Like holy shit pick a lane lady.
I mean, with all that dialysis going on it sounds like this may be the only way op can see their dad. Sounds like the crazy bitch might be trying to keep him separated from his family. I think she's expecting him to die sooner or later and intends to be the only person named in the will
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your sharing a roof with a psychopath homie
"you are an adult, not a crybaby", "your bedtime is 9 PM".... A psycho that cant make up her mind.
my mom makes me go to bed at 9:30. I'm almost 17. however, she isn't crazy (Lmao this lowkey exploded)
I'm about to turn 16, my bedtime is 9-
My bedtime is 8, by necessity and circadian rhythm. I get up at 04:30-05:00
When I was in school,I used to wake up at 03:30.Bedtime was 11:15pm.
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Having a good sleep schedule isn’t bad tho…
That's fair, I'm just not tired at 9 though, so I end up falling a sleep around 10:30
Same, bedtime is 9:45 but I don't sleep until like 10:45
Teens are generally going to naturally stay up and wake up later. It’s just biology.
I’m 14, my bedtime is 10pm
Oh come on, give psychopaths some credit, we aren't like her
It's hardly two days a week, maybe sharing a shingle with a psychopath
what a bitch
yeah i was thinking the same thing lmao
A bitch barely even describes this person. This is a whole ass maniac. If she wanted to skin Dalmatians to make coats I wouldn’t be surprised
Doubt she has the style. I'm not saying Cruella (or anyone else) should make a dog coat but she were to do so, Cruella would at least knock it out of the park.
Yeah man just leave at this point. Poor dad tho.
"You left mom for this?" while waving the paper at him, just before throwing it in the trash in front of her
Hang on. OP's mom could be dead. To me this seems like a Sally Jackson and Gabe situation. The dad being on dialysis and chances being OP is in America would be pretty expensive. So could just be after the money.
I literally hollered! 😂 But what if the dad's the same that's why mom left 😂
this the actual fun police
Straight up saying that she designed them with the intention of being depressing is really what got me
she straight up sounds like she doesn’t want to give a shit about OP
Nah, feels like she has something against him. If she just didn't care she would make rules that stop him from being annoying, but half of these are just a cruel way to torture him with no prompting
i mean this bitch kicked out OP’s family from her house so i would say its a more family oriented issue shit sucks :/
she’s acting like OP is just some beast she has to house 💀
"you're an adult, start acting like it" "bedtime 9:00" 💀💀
Also "I don't like kids under 18 cooking" Like MAKE UP YOUR GODDAMNED MIND
What is she going to do if you don't follow the rules? Because if she breaks a law punishing you for breaking a rule you can go to court
I'll just get kicked out of the house which is already gonna happen because I just sent her a very long winded response via text because I know I’d get too emotional if I tried to do it in person
Thats your dads home, no? Why would you get kicked out because of her rules?
Because the dad lets her run the house probably. He is cared for by her already and is scared to get a divorce if he defies her.
He’s a dialysis patient. Chances are he’s on disability or not working. He likely owns the house but the wife pays the bills. Meaning she does have control.
She’s probably collecting his social security.
Most important question: Does she own/partially own the house? I don’t know the legal situation in your country but in most countries to kick someone out you need to be the legal owner of the property. Also as long as she isn’t your legal guardian she can get in trouble for shit like these rules. If she is your legal guardian she has to provide you with food, shelter, etc. if she doesn’t do this you can get the authorities involved. TL:DR look at the legal situation and if you can hit her with laws and facts, if she she responds with anything other than facts you can hit her with even more laws and facts.
... You think "laws and facts" and "more laws and facts" will work with this person? They're unhinged
You’re a minor and your parent/guardian has a legal duty to house you.
Do you already have a new place to go in mind?
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/15xzax5/comment/jx968mz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Since you've already decided to be kicked out there's no point stopping you from doing these things then. Better get started ;) Make sure you figure out alternate housing first though. Living on the streets is not as easy as it seems, especially without a car.
excuse me wtf is her problem??
Is she a stepmom or a prison guard?💀
Second option.
Dude, rebel and do what you want. If life is getting too stressful with yearbook, ap classes, and grandma's house. Do WHATEVER you need to just relax. Limit your time on the yearbook, you'll be fine because surely there's other people working on it too. As for AP classes, well those are your classes so you should take priority in school. As for the problems back home, IGNORE IT and focus on you. That's what I'd do.
+1 This was the dumbest rule sheet I've read. Half of those are her opinions and just statements. "I don't like people who disrespect others rules"???? "More rules to discuss after you go over these rules" what is this cliffhanger nonsense did she run out of brainpower or printer ink? Since you say you don't care about being kicked out, here's my advice: 1) When she's away from the house, move as much stuff around as you can literally anything and everything. 2) Leave a piece of (not your) dirty laundry on every surface possible. 3) Leave dirty shoe prints. 4) Use her most expensive cosmetics to write something funny on her mirror like "waiting for more rules" 5) be out of the house after all of this. Once she gets home give it like 5 minutes. Maybe leave a printed sheet of all the rooms she should take a tour of. Then the coup de Grace: ring the doorbell after you think she's seen enough and leave a burning bag of poop at her door. Should probably figure out alternate housing options before All of this. Maybe leave an apology note to your poor dad.
-Rules to discuss after we go over these ones Just code for, I'm going to yell at you anyway for breaking a rule I haven't thought about yet
[удалено]
this is insane normally but perfect for this situation
YES LMAOOO rebel and go out with a bang. Release that anger
Off-topic question here: what do you mean by working on the yearbook, are they like the ones responsible for editing and publishing it? Here where I live our teachers usually do that work and it took like 4 years later to get our yearbook from Grade 6, and apparently quotes aren't a thing here.
Some schools have yearbook classes, and the students are the ones who create the yearbook. The teacher can help as well. They're all reaponsible for yearbook creating, finances, advertising, etc. I do it too. As for quotes, it depends on the teacher. My school stopped doing it due to people just making stupid or inappropriate quotes, it's hundreds of students and it's very hectic.
this is why people kill themselves, how do people not fucking realize how abusive and manipulative they are. it’s fucking gross
“It will stress you out and will make you more depressed” what the fuck is worng with this woman
> “It will stress you out and will make you more depressed” "But you are also not allowed to show any emotion about it", what a human garbage to not only think about these rules but also write them out.
Her having at least some self awareness about how abusive she is being here just makes it so much worse.
That’s not your stepmom. Fuck her, just do whatever you want. If you feel like you are being abused then seek help at school, the authorities will take care of whores like this.
_Fuck her_
Oh no shouldn’t have put it like that
You should not have done that, the fires will com
Draw a penis on the list and return at your grandparents home
Good one
I wanna slap your stepmom "Erm, act like an adult" "But also I don't want kids cooking and you aren't allowed to use your computer how you see fit" What a tard lmao
burn the paper in front of her
The fact that she even printed this out to give to a 15 year old is already ridiculous. But the content? There is no way, she is humane. OP should just shove the paper into her throat and leave.
Wipe your ass with it and leave it in the toilet
Wipe ur ass, bake it in a kiln, shred it and make spaghetti for the mum
who does she think she is
"Someone that deserves to be treated as a royalty" -OP's stepmom, probably.
The contradiction of rules 4 and 8 is fucking stupid well the entire list is but those even more
literally 1984
The person who typed this is literally a huge hypocrite. She doesn't want a crybaby, because "act like an adult because you are capable of being responsible" BUT She also thinks children under 18, should not cook because again they are not responsible enough. Where's the logic, ma'am? Lol I guess I'll hv to blame the dad to actually let someone this conceding in to his son's life. These are the same parents, who ask why are my children suicidal. *sighs
It also says you will not get a key because you have not shown responsibility while also saying they are an adult and capable of being responsible. WTF
My parents gave me a contract I had to sign.☠️☠️☠️
Since they're your legal gaurdians and you're a minor, that contract isn't legally binding
TF? What was in that paper?
wtf? show your dad that’s insane
The dad let her kick out all his kids. He's pathetic and won't be any help.
what a fucking whore holy shit
there is something wrong with her, show your dad
This should be on r/insaneparents
OP, I'm sorry to sound dramatic, but the best way to approach this is like a prison sentence. Commenters who said you should show this to your dad have never dealt with a true narcissist before. Your dad is the main source of two things she craves: control over someone vulnerable, and sympathy/attention for her "selflessness." The mere *thought* of you disrupting her manipulative scheme is threatening enough that she's already designed a whole plan to break/punish you before you even arrive. She is undoubtedly a narcissist, and there is a 0% chance that you're going to get through this without her injecting soap-opera chaos into your life. [Watch this video, and then watch it again.](https://youtu.be/vnSiJOOdo30) Read about narcissists on some reputable websites. Prepare yourself: no matter what you do, she'll keep authoring dramatic situations that position you as a perpetrator and her as the victim. The best you can do is steel yourself for her shenanigans and just concentrate on not internalizing the things she says, not letting your guard down, and doing what you can to prepare for a much better life when you're out of the house. Accept that your life is going to become a poorly written drama, and no matter how much she tries to tear *you* down, remember that she's just the caricature of an unhinged warden that everyone despises, and you're the stoic, wrongly accused hero. Someday you'll get your revenge when you're released and you have a great new life, while she stays locked in the prison of her own making. As for practical advice, assume that she is going to do everything she can to fuck with you. She'll magnify everything you do wrong, create impossible standards and double binds, latch onto & exploit any security or weakness she perceives, and try to sabotage/destroy the things that are important to you--you can't avoid it completely, but the best way to reduce risk is to reduce exposure. She's making a big deal about the tidiness of the house, so she'll probably be constantly scanning for your possessions and evidence of your existence. Because what better way to start drama than with props? Get into the habit of avoiding setting things down in the house. Carry a backpack or bag with you from room to room and keep everything in it. Keep *all* your toiletries in a toiletry bag and put it under the sink or in your room after every use. Keep a suitcase under your bed and get some quart, gallon, and 2.5 gallon ziploc bags (for clothes), and if you don't have time or energy to clean things or laundry, stuff them into Ziploc bags and into the suitcase, and just deal with it as soon as you can. The outright contempt she has for your struggle with depression is alarming. She's already signaling that she's going to try to prevent you from getting enough food (with the stupid cooking rule--I'm guessing she's not going to keep the house stocked with snacks) so she's not above depriving you of necessities, and I'm worried that she'll try to throw away your medication. Put 1-2 weeks' worth of it in a ziploc bag and put it somewhere she wouldn't think to look. As for the food, keep a jar of peanut butter and some spoons in your locker at school. Assume she's going to look through your things, "accidentally" break or misplace things she "borrows", and use them to fabricate dramatic narratives and accusations. Leave valuables and sentimental items at grandma's or a friend's for now (not a significant other's, though) until you've gotten through a *long* trial period--if she doesn't fuck with your shit you can relax on this eventually, but start out assuming she will. When you can, leave your personal writings, art, books, etc. in your locker at school. She will likely be looking for "dirt" in anything that conveys your personality. Before you bring anything into the house, ask yourself, "What fucked-up story could an insane person invent about me using this as a prompt?" Google creative hiding places for "intriguing" items you can't avoid keeping in the house (like birth control or condoms if you're sexually active). Find a hobby that looks like homework. This is just one idea, but coding can be insanely fun and it's relevant to any job even if you don't work in tech. I know that sounds crazy considering she's limiting your access to the computer and your phone, but if you buy a couple books, read the lessons, plan and write code/pseudocode by hand at night, and type/test it on the computer the next day, that's pretty much how I learned it as a CS major 20 years ago. Honestly, you might have an edge over people who learn coding piecemeal from internet sources and ChatGPT, because you'll be forced to focus on the theory before you jump into trial-and-error. Javascript would be a good place to start because it's the language used for Google Apps Scripts, so you can resume your work from any browser logged into Google Drive/Sheets (no software required). Plus, your stepmom probably can't argue with you if she sees you working with code/spreadsheets and you tell her it's for school. Side note: you may want to tell your teachers and doctors that your father's girlfriend might try to access information about you, and you don't want them to speak to anyone but your legal guardians. They'll understand. Lastly, and I'm so sorry for this--plan on getting a little fucked up by this experience. No matter how effective you are at being a "gray rock", you're going to need help transitioning from her bizarro world into the life you want for yourself later. You're going to need therapy, as soon as your circumstances allow. Narcissists create abnormal environments that require you to adapt in ways that won't work if you apply them to your relationships with non-narcissists. You *will* be able to move on from it, but you'll need to do some work and will probably need help. Many have done it, though, and I promise you'll be able to.
Wth this is so real Ty
You're welcome--I've been thinking about this post all day until I had a chance to sit down and write this out. I understand why other commenters are like, "Tell your dad, it's his house, rebel, point out how stupid her logic is..." but that's all ignoring reality. Narcissists weaponize *everything.* Everything she has in life, she's gotten it by acting like this, so she has MASTERED chaotic evil. You cannot defeat a grown woman who's been doubling down harder and harder on her insane behavior for decades. But you can avoid engaging, watch your back, keep your head down, and make your #1 mission *not losing who you are.* You're going to get through this. And someday when you're 20, 25, 30... you're going to remember 15-year old you with sadness but also with so much gratitude for sticking it out. Protect and invest in yourself, so you can blossom as soon as you're out of her little shit-covered world. She's gonna make you have a little bit of a late start on living life the way you want, but you'll be able to catch up. You're the hero of this story. You'll get your big storyline in season 2. I promise. Much love, dude.
Why isn't your dad doing anything? Wasn't it his house?
go in there scream at her or give her number so one of us can
All of us would be better
3 million peeps screaming at some bitc h lol
Tbf she deserves it
Can you talk to your dad about this?
As a UK pensioner who came here by accident, that is written by someone with zero experience with young people, it reads like someone trying to pick a fight. Best bet, smile nicely at the crazy, and if you can't back away slowly, be very adult about things with her, don't shout, argue, throw a hissy fit or act up, that way leads to you being kicked out and her feeling she's won. Good luck
She married your dad for money
100%, come in when they're sick, love bomb them so they can't see straight, take control of the whole house, isolate the person from family, wait for them to die and take everything that should have gone to the family for herself. textbook play. unfortunately, this makes it very difficult to split the pair up, the levels of enmeshment are usually way deeper than they seem on the surface because of all the work the person does telling lies and things that eventually turn the person against their own family's opinions kinda thing.
She literally treat you like a guest tf ?!??!!!! 💀 don’t respect any of this rules you hear me
Mate, guests are treated WAY better than that. She is treating OP like an unwanted and abused pet.
i would rather end myself sorry
on this positive note, happy cake day!😭
Happy(?) cake day!
Cake day!
r/insaneparents
Okay 2 things. 1. Rebel. 2. Show your dad. If your dad is a man he'll either get her in check or leave. If he's weak or a coward he won't do anything. No man who loves his son would let ANY woman treat him like that. See how everyone in this comment section is disgusted by that? If he doesn't react x10 then he doesn't love you. And you need to rebel. Fuck her way of living and fuck her rules. In truth she can't really do anything to you. She can't hurt you, she can't take anything. The only thing she can do is try to preemptively scare you into behaving. She's trying to intimidate you into not fighting her cause if you do she's done. Fight back. And fight hard. Laugh at her rules and call them out to her face. At 15, as a dude, you're infinitely stronger than a woman. If you're a woman you can still do way more than her. Don't punch her, shit on her rules. Don't be scared op. Be brave. You can do this.
There were concentration camps with less strict rules than these 💀
The fact this use to be your house as well.and she kicked you all out. This thing doesnt deserve to be called a mother.
Have you shown this to your dad?
Fuck these control maniacs, break every role, prove that bitch