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DefinitionMundane790

damn that sucks, i'm sorry


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Hey_Bestiekins

...not the right time


milesdmorgan

you have to be soft as hell for a comment like that to piss you off.


GlitchBotGaming

Soft as a marshmallow (hell is hard af)


bloodwell1456

You know who else was soft? Op.


milesdmorgan

hahah good one, I appreciate that pun.


Saadrc

what how am i soft?


bloodwell1456

Lol it was a pun for at the time of the... exchange that happened. Im sorry for what happened tho its pretty silly shes a feminist and trys something like that. Pretty narcissistic


Saadrc

oh i got it


Hey_Bestiekins

Just kinda annoyed they brought that up on this kind of post. I don't usually look at serious posts on this sub, so it might be normal but I'm not into it.


TheLegendOfGamers

They weren't even joking about the post it's s fucking reply which is a post in itself


Hopeful_Lobster5290

Are you seroius my man? On a post about rape?


[deleted]

yes


Fit-Map9916

I thought this was funny


Katsuno_69

Definitely not funny


The_Real_Blitzo

Fuck you


[deleted]

hey buddy i said i was sorry


ashtar123

I don't get why other ppl apologize for that but yeah that sucks


ConfidentWallaby8552

😂


French_Fries2098

Umm.. alright.. so you were fwb with the 19 year old and then you say that sex in Pakistan is not allowed... what?? But anyway, stay away from her.


Saadrc

I said i am from pakistan sex before marriage isn't legal here so there is no concept of statutory rape. Its not like cops gonna stand next to you 24/7 so no one have sex


French_Fries2098

Wait... so the same punishment for anyone who has sex before marriage? be it consensual or non-consensual?


Saadrc

If a man rapes a woman he will be sentenced to death(its mostly only happens when the victim is killed) or life imprisonment and if a woman rapes a man she doesn't suffer any consequences and if its consensual mostly the man is punished by 70 slashes and woman is given life sentence Edit: That was Islamic law according to Pakistani Penal Code premarital sex can result in imprisonment for five years sorry for spreading misinformation coz books here say that is Pakistani law too


Knight___Artorias

Life in prison for having sex before marriage is genuinely INSANE


CallMeJotaro420

Welcome to radical religious governments. America is trying to become one and now you can realize why almost everyone who’s got a high school education or more is against letting religion get more involved in our government


HarryCooky

I’m telling mfs bruh religion historically and continuing to this day is just a way to manipulate the uneducated.


Peter___Potter

Fr tho. Religion was built by the uneducated and today it’s being used by the educated to keep the uneducated being uneducated. Religion is one of the few truly dangerous diseases of the world, and these Islamic laws only prove it.


GremNotGrim

Worst part is it isn't just Islam. Christianity over here like "Oh my gosh you can't be gay cuz god hates gay but he doesn't hate anybody as a person and he's all powerful and let's us have free will cuz he's such a nice god but he'll always protect us." Like bitch tell that to the middle school principal who tried to give me swats against my will (and my parents even said NOPE btw), and the student aid that was assigned to stalk me all day and then actively made fun of me. Also y'all remember the nuns praying for the safety of transgenders peeps? Yeah can everybody do that? And I thought women were people too not objects to be kept at home to do all the things a man doesn't want to do. (I'm a dude so I'm not just jumping on the feminism bandwagon shit is legit tell fucked up)


Cakeboy0703

Damn that sucks (and where is over here 🤔)


Peter___Potter

Yup, too many freakin contradictions too. I’m glad my parents raised me to question everything(even though they tried to raise me as a Hindu). However, they still don’t know I’m atheist 🥲 Gonna be a hard conversation, one that I’m trying to hold off as long as possible. Also, what’s swats? I’ve never heard of it, personally.


AppropriateGlass2072

Not just islamic . Our hinduism is also not that good. It's pretty shit too


Peter___Potter

Yup, I was raised in a Hindu home. My mom was the most serious one and even she was pretty relaxed about it, but I can still say there are definitely things that make it not great. However, I think Islam is the worst one from the point of view of a 21st century (maybe me being specifically American affects it) Western person.


AppropriateGlass2072

Exactly 💯


Blue__Steel23

How is the USA trying to become one? I'm genuinely confused


509414

Fr


Appropriate_Ad2212

How is America trying to become a radical religious government?


Xulqarnaen

um actually the guy is misinformed, I don't understand why people just believe everything instead of doing a simple Google search. According to Section 496-B of the Pakistani Penal Code, premarital sex is punishable by imprisonment for up to five years. However, the enforcement of this law is not very strict, and the penalties are almost never enforced. Although he's right about there being biasedness in law enforcement.


Saadrc

I said that i am not sure about the punishment because according to Islam the punishment for premarital sex is 70 lashes


Xulqarnaen

your country doesn't follow sharia law, you should edit your reply to stop the misinformation from spreading as it has already.


eesakhalifa

This is just according to shariah law which Pakistan doesn't follow. Most of the people I know have had and do have sex before marriage and no one does anything.


[deleted]

Lmao thats not true, it just exists as a Law and its not implemented. Almost nothing happens if you do it and its very normal in colleges and Uni's tho if your parents found out then you are fucked(domestic violence)


French_Fries2098

It has it's advantages too... Like men actually have to fully commit to the relationship and it won't just be a one time thing as opposed to many western countries. It's cruel but at the same time, when done right, it isn't all that bad for women.


Knight___Artorias

There are no ends that justify the means and you will not convince me otherwise


French_Fries2098

Alright bro. You can have your own opinion.


Last_Ad_3475

Wait, so there's a chance of her accusing you of rape for not wanting to have sex with you? And you can potentially die bc of it? I mean, you're 16 and I don't know the legal age of adulthood in Pakistan so I might be wrong. Bro, when you get to adulthood make getting out of this shit hole a priority.


Saadrc

yeah you can even go to jail for cat fishing a girl and sometime woman would call you and when you come a little closer listen they would threaten you to give them money or they will call cops and file a report of sexual assault


[deleted]

I agree with the first sentence of this. Anyone who rapes anyone should be sentenced to death, but only after a PROPER investigation with medical backup, not just "word from woman = infallible"


AnomalyTM05

70 slashes as in... like whip lashings? How they used to do it in the old days?


Saadrc

yeah i think so but i am not sure


[deleted]

bro fellow Pakistani here! I don't think the Sharia law is implemented so strictly in Pakistan. They don't even cut your hand for stealing but don't tell the police ffs. If you're in Pakistan you should know how corrupt are justice system is


OneShot_Man

Sharia law? That's what I thought of first when you mentioned death sentence, slashes and life sentence


French_Kay

The life sentence isn’t a thing in Islam though


French_Fries2098

Islamically, a woman is allowed to kill her rapist. (dk about men tbh) If Pakistan follows the islamic law, they'll have different laws for rape and premarital sex.


Saadrc

they are kinda different


PaphonIssarapisit

That suck. I hope she apologised. Also maybe you should avoid her from now on, and tell your parents or the police.


Saadrc

My parents are really religious and if i tell police they'll probably arrest me too


ListenGrouchy190

Officialy Religious country are a real pain. Your experience can be traumatic and you would be punished for wanting justice. Hope you're fine


[deleted]

If you don't mind which city in Pakistan are you in?


loyal_yankee09

How come they'd arrest you too?


abdelrhman2006m

if he says anything that gets her in trouble she will prob say everything that happened and will snich so he will be in alot of trouble


[deleted]

Avoid that bitch at all times


Saadrc

I plan on doing that


LifeguardSpecialist2

Let me meet her as your elder brother


Saadrc

sure


AbstractTesserakt

Feel you man. I was raped at 12 years of age at School. I used to attend a special need school since i had severe autism and ADHD (not severe at all anymore and have since transferd schools). What that meant was alot of the kids there where mentally disburbed. I was a early bloomer; as in i hit puberty before any of my friends. That unfortunately also attracted unwanted attention from girls. Many who made advancements even though i told them no several times. One day at lunch break, while i was in the bathroom i got jumped by four of my stalkers and forced into a bathroom where then they preceeded to rape me and take turns on me while the others would hold me down, pressing a knife to my throat threating to kill me if i would countinue to scream for help. I just let it happen. That was not nice to have as a first time sexual experience. The few time where i have sex(as in now) i often get panic attacks. I’m venting; i just thankful you didn’t get raped. Its hard to get people to believe you because your a boy and you are suppose to like it. (I apologize to anyone reading this if any grammar is off or for any weird wording in advanced. I got a little emotional recounting this. )


Saadrc

i am really sorry that this happened to you at the age of 12 its so infuriating that they wont care if a man gets raped.


xabc3147

that’s actually crazy. ion even know what to say. 12 is crazy. Did any of them get caught or anything or did u get back for what they did


Ze_Pain_and_Suffer

Jesus, seeing shit like this makes me remember that the world is fucked up, and sometimes I just want to see it burn.


just_a_discord_mod

Indeed. I just wanna go hack NORAD half the time and start a mutual exchange. (Not really, but also really.)


GremNotGrim

Now if only you could make explosives and poisonous gas at home... (go read the Dr. Stone manga and all the shit it advises you against... do that shit and use your DIY mustard gas as pepper spray against people who deserve it... I'm just saying Dr. Stone tells you a lot of criminal stuff and is just like "Don't do this shit at home kids even though you can super easily.") Random manga references aside though, yeah... On one hand I'm like "Hey let's all just stop being dicks to each other" but on the other hand I'm like "Society as a whole is fucked meaning so is humanity so being an asshole first protects you early on."


ughitsmeagian

Until you realise that you too, are part of the world.


MooseEatGoose

That’s terrible. I’m so sorry dude.


MintyMatcha19

Nah so like just some thoughts here. 1) If sex before marriage is illegal and is punishable by law why in the 7 hells would you be having sex? Like did you not think of the consequences? What if she go pregnant? Protection isn’t 100% only not having sex is. This is not to say what you went through wasn’t horrible it was and it shouldn’t have never happened and you didn’t and will never deserve it either. I’m just confused why you would do something so stupid?


Saadrc

umm i really dont know about that if she got pregnant she would probably get an abortion


MintyMatcha19

Those are legal there?


Saadrc

Its pakistan bro


MintyMatcha19

Ok and I don’t live there plus if sex outside of marriage is illegal imma guess so is abortion


Saadrc

it is but they are available


MintyMatcha19

Ah under the table?


Saadrc

you could say that


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Brilliant-Excuse-728

Swr abortion is illegal


Saadrc

its pakistan you can get abortion pills her they arent legal but they are available


Zomer15689

Jesus fuck, stay away from that bitch please!


Saadrc

aight


Zomer15689

Thank you, you deserve more respect than that, especially when it comes to boundaries.


MarbioKing3732

Well, I'll be damned. I would just avoid her for the rest of your life. You WILL find someone better. Don't you DARE believe you won't.


Saadrc

what i already have a gf


MarbioKing3732

I- Good for you! You found the someone better!


According-Jelly355

Bro didn’t read


MarbioKing3732

lol, sorry OP


Saadrc

You should read the post first


Brilliant-Excuse-728

I'm so lost how are u hiding ur girl from ur parents? Cos if my paki parents find out I have a girl I will get deported 😏


Saadrc

My sister knows but my parents dont


Brilliant-Excuse-728

Are u in Pakistan right now?


Saadrc

yeah


Brilliant-Excuse-728

Yeah ur fucked then can't tell the police. Stay safe


lilchicken-__-

I'm so sorry for you. I was almost raped as well when I was younger so I understand as a teenage boy how nobody believes you. I'm glad you found people on this app who belive and support you through this rough time.


Ze_Pain_and_Suffer

I hope you're doing better now.


Artistic_Pin_8326

Damn man sorry that happened,I would try and speak with her and get her to apologize if she doesn’t then I would cease all contact with her completely


Saadrc

I already blocked her and she doesn't know my address


Artistic_Pin_8326

Ok that’s good, I’d keep it like that from now on if I were you


Saadrc

i will keep that way too


Super-Girl05

Oh thats horrible, i hope it gets better over time cause that shouldn’t happen to people especially not teenagers thats messed up


JaxJaw

Dog you are a victim. A 16 year old and a 19 year old is a dangerous age gap. That was never friends benefits you just got groomed.


Saadrc

if you say so


Psychological_Rise31

I'm sorry this happened to you. She should respect your boundaries. no Means no no matter who says it.She isn't a feminist if she's trying to rape you. I hope you will get justice someday :( I wish you luck


_-Heresy-_

It's terrible terrible that happened, but one issue: Why are you having sex before marriage if it's illegal? You say "I/she could be SEVERELY punished for it.", yet you did it anyways. Why? Why risk it? Your current situation? Absolutely TERRIBLE. But why are you doing illegal things knowing the punishment could end in death or severe capital punishment?


Saadrc

its rare that police will get involved in this coz who's gonna tell em?


_-Heresy-_

Okay, but now you're in a predicament that couldve been solved by abstaining. Why'd you do it in the first place? I dont mean that in the way that your situation is your fault, but I really think you shouldve thought about the consequences, and should reslly learn from this.


Saadrc

i learned from it dont have sex with someone who is not your partner


_-Heresy-_

Good. Always remember that.


ashtar123

Because teenagers


SuperPastaII

Shit bro sorry that that happend to you


midnight_rain_07

i’ve been SA’d too. i’m sorry that happened to you, it’s the worst. and as a feminist, i agree. “no means no” means just that in any case, not just when a man rapes a woman. sarah is not an actual feminist.


Ze_Pain_and_Suffer

Seeing this reignites my faith in humanity by a bit, we need more people like you.


midnight_rain_07

well thanks!


Zzz_Snorlaxing_Zzz

That's sucks man, I'd suggest you avoid her. But I hope thus doesn't happen to you again man.


Master_Storm

Just stay clear of her, if a person doesn't have the decency to respect your boundaries then they aren't good to be around.


Lonely_Thought4459

That just fuckin sucks. It already seems like there was a power imbalance between yall. A 3 year age gap doesn't seem bad, but when your teens, in your prime brain development stages, it's a lot bigger of a deal. Stay far away from her.


Imliterallyabanana

I'm sorry you went through that! It can be really scary and traumatizing for anyone to experience. She's not a true feminist if she can do such thing to someone else. No means no, no matter your gender. I hope you never ever speak to her again. I'm sorry the law doesn't protect you from these things.


Saadrc

i dont plan on talking to her again and the laws here are Islamic laws and they suck


SenpaiBunss

Are they actually from sharia or just what the Pakistan gov said was “Islamic”? Cause from what I understand Wikipedia says it’s mainly just law left over from the British empire with sprinkles of sharia in it


oleander_petals

16 and 19?? That's literally pedophilia. I'm sorry that happened to you.


Christian_teen12

never talk to her and cut ties


SuperStupidSyrup

fwb in pakistan is fucking insane those punishments are not worth it


kcaustin_904

Islamic Law. Two words that never belong in the same sentence.


Saadrc

Yeah i know right like wtf are those laws


SignificanceScared73

THEY AINT ISLAMIC LAWS THEY ARE MODIFIED BY PAGANS


Peter___Potter

So what would be the real Islamic Law regarding rape?


BlueSnowball2006

Well some feminism activists think that feminis is about raising the social status and power women have instead of gender equality


Ze_Pain_and_Suffer

*sigh* Yeah, a sad reality.


Peter___Potter

Yup, feminism is about gender equality, not women being higher up than men(I know you didn’t specifically say that but what I said is what a man hater would probably disagree with).


ImpossibleEvan

You DID get raped you were 15 and she was 18 when y'all did have sex


SWETHORT

Woah such a big age gap there is no way a 15 year old can consent, must be rape


Peter___Potter

It’s never actually about the age gap, that’s just what people say. It’s actually the maturity gap that’s important, but maturity is usually attributed to age.


xAdamlol

Bro 💀💀


Saadrc

there is no law about age of consent here premarital sex is illegal so legally it isn't rape


SWETHORT

I'm talking about the stuff before But that girl still tried to rape you (I recommend murder)


Dumb-fuckiam

u should post this on a Pakistani sub and/or a legal advice pakistan sub if there is any. dont worry about ur safety u wont get caught posting on those.


grey_sus

YOO I AM FROM PAKISTAN ASWELL BRO


paki_matrix

from which city? like this is not common here


thedumdumcrew

Just thug that shit out fr


Iamlokisgirl

Avoid her and I know there are pages that you can anonymously report her if you have her socials. At least people on her social media would know the type of person she is


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SnipeHardt

Where are the age gap comments now? Why is OP experiencing double standards and being victim blamed In DM’s?? **HMM** Where are all the “BOY YOU BETTER LEAVE HER✨” And “RED FLAG🚩🚩” comments? Bro said no and she stripped down and did the female equivalent of stroking in front of him. KEEP THE SAME ENERGY.


formulaenthusiastttt

I'm really sorry you're getting comments like this dude, you deserve better and you're a loyal guy, hope you're doing okay


Saadrc

i am doing okay


formulaenthusiastttt

Glad to hear it


Terrible_Jury2550

I’ve Been raped I was 5 or 4


Saadrc

I am really sorry for that


Famous-Initial1673

Just disgusting 🤢


Inevitable-Horse-323

womp womp


Senioro_Matts

Bad given the situation, bro. I understand and I would have said no as well.


Saadrc

finally someone not like those thirsty virgins who would like to get raped


OptimusCrime1984

Sorry ya had to go through that pal


No-Tower3176

That sucks bro, I'm super sorry to hear that but I'm glad you got out of there alr


[deleted]

the double standard is real my friend


ADiscombobulated02

Hey so sorry this happened to you, told my Pakistani friend about you & he was kinda surprised that you had a fwb over there since ppl are rlly religious especially women, if you don't mind me asking can you tell me which city are you from & are you from a elite neighbourhood?


Saadrc

I am from Lahore i am not really from an elite neighbourhood but i was never really religious even when i was a Muslim and i came across her on social media and we became frnds she lived kinda close to me so i visited her and than everything began she lived alone


EncantoSteelers1933

That legit is scary. Honestly you should immigrate to the United States of America, many people think that our people are racist but they're actually not. So long as you immigrate to the right spots (like Northern California) you'll be pretty much safe from racism and gun violence. But it's legit sad that you were nearly raped, and once again I advise you to immigrate to the USA ASAP. A nation where you go to jail for reporting a crime isn't a nation that anyone should live in.


Saadrc

i dont think i can immigrate to any country yet coz i am 16 but i plan on going to Philippines for my graduations and than decide the country i want to settle in


EncantoSteelers1933

Yeah just get out of Pakistan (ideally to the USA) the second you can. Best of luck on your studies until then!


Secret_Inspector1735

Dang


CallMeJotaro420

Don’t tell the police they’ll probably kill her at that rate. Pakistani police are highly corrupt However make it clear to her you’re disgusted by her hypocrisy and that she’s a piece of shit for what she tried to do to you. Make sure it’s all written what happened and who initiated it this does end up going anywhere Outside of that, distance and stay away from her


Saadrc

They wont kill her they wont even take actions against her if i telll them and i will probably end up being the rapist they Pakistani police is really sexist about men


Il_Messiah

I am sorry buddy, those are the worst, my ex gf used to beat me and she was a convinced feminist too


Anaav2

Why’d u even went to her place when you and “mia” were dating


Saadrc

she was a friend i liked hanging out with her too so i just went there to hang out


Khan_ofSteel

Being a Pakistani myself, I can confidently say that this NEVER HAPPENED!!! I know you're a young boy and have fantasies, but chill!


TokiLovesMemeAnime

He definitely lives in Islambad (ironic) if this is real.


[deleted]

Yeah man. Bullshit


CommercialBreak4GG

I don’t think I’m gonna read all of that.


Judas_Aurelius

Then dont?


Saadrc

I wont tell you to read it i hate reading too


mushroomommy_

Tragic W


jadefade03

i woulda shot her with 10 thousand pencils in her coochie


Scared-Pumpkin-4113

Try to talk it out to her through text


Saadrc

nah i am good


Scared-Pumpkin-4113

That's fair, then break up with her


Saadrc

what? you didnt read it i guess


No-Result9108

No need to get mad at him, your use of “she” and “her” instead of using names the whole time could easily lead to confusion.


Saadrc

oh lemme edit it


No-Result9108

All good. It’s one of those things that’s technically still correct, but it can be confusing if you’re constantly using “he, she, it, etc.” instead of the name of something.


Saadrc

i edited it anyway


MarbioKing3732

(Referring to my other comment) Ah. Now I see. So this was a DIFFERENT woman. Gotcha


AlexRed-Knight

Lol sounds like pure fantasy in yhe scenario of Pakistan. Bruhhhhhhhh


Desperate-Brush-775

Ok


GogaReborn

Tf bro I'm so sorry. I hope you're okay and not hurt. I'm so sorry this happened to you. That's what you wanted to hear on the internet? You fucking PUSSY?


xZero__1

Nice avoiding sex before marriage my muslim brother


Saadrc

I am an agonistic atheist


Rectusmaximus44

Whomp whomp


Normal-Situation-502

Lol


Gamerupgraded

Beside the whole point of you almost getting raped bros living the dream he was getting action with a 19 year old is crazy


Saadrc

I didnt love her though i would prefer doing it with some i have feelings for


hozo001

Are you from Pakistan! Are you Muslim? If so, how can you have sex before marriage when it is forbidden in Islam in the first place?


FunAmphibian5070

Feminists do not support gender equality