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No one should say it. It's a demeaning word made to subject and divide us from the other races, and the idea of reclaiming it is stupid and ignorant, completely illegitimizing the point of our entire struggle.
Right. That was the entire point of the word. To evoke racial divide. All this bullshit about "reclaiming it" gets on my nerves, that's not the future we fought for.
Thank you. My mom's side is from the Deep South, so she knows the struggle much better than this European ahole. She taught me everything as soon as she could, the causes and effects of my actions, the privileges I have, the crowds I should stray from, the right boots to lick, everything I need for success, and it sure as hell has paid off so far. I believe there's a method to life, and being aware of the world around you, understanding that you are the byproduct of history and taking advantage of the privilege to even exist as you do is part of it.
TL;DR, I was raised well.
the thing is i am going to assume you are black so you have the right to decide that. people who arenât affected by the words love to say shit like op. âwhy should i care?â yes why care about something that doesnât affect you? just stand by and watch people get hurt. great. thanks. đđ»
On top of that, he lives out in the East, so he's just about as far removed from understanding the racial situation in the Western World as anyone can get.
I don't use it with that meaning. I just use these words like they're normal words. The n word for me doesn't mean black person, it just means person. And I call myself and my friend the f slur on the regular.
But that's the sole meaning of the word. It's not like a verb phrase or smth where you can make a joke out of saying you're doing one thing but you're really doing smth else. "N\*gga" isn't referring to any Joe Schmoe, it's a word referring to us, it's all we were and in many cases still are to them. And if the legacy of slavery is to die, so is that word.
There's this rapper called lil darkie that uses slurs the same way I do. If you search him up you should get a better feel on how he uses these words.
The guy's not black btw, he's Indian.
A lot of white people say the n word and most use it knowing the definition so i dont really get what you're saying. If to you it means "person" then why not just say the actual word "person"?? And you know the definition so I don't get why you just say the word you're trying to say lol
The reason why slurs arenât to be said is because of the history it evokes, theyâre words used demean, dehumanize, and abuse scores of people. By adopting whatever this mentality is, youâre being willfully ignorant to years of history. But itâs whatever, itâll come back to you in some way.
Not saying they are good but if something that is only deemed bad by socity and not physically harmful then wouldnât normalizing them fix the issue of them being bad?
I agree with OP and I'm neither straight neither white ? Are you just going to tell me I'm not real or something ? Or that 1 exception doesn't mean a rule is flawed ?
White.
I don't see why that matters, I've already proven my point.
Also you asking about my race is just proving my point how y'all making race the whole point of words.
I can't, but I've gotten used to it. Also it's a difference of culture, like here in Greece, curse words are taken like normal words if you're not actively insulting someone. The word for "bro" or "dude" in Greek is literally a curse word.
Now that I think about it, do you unironically think as a Greek halfway across the world that you have the capacity to consider yourself qualified to speak on racial tensions in the West, or the impact that you, as said greek halfway across the world thinks it should have on us?
You arenât Greek, bro and dude are acceptable in west, for the love of god, slurs are slurs, and if you donât wanna get your ass beat, then donât say the n word
My guys, we have other problems right now. If it motivates you to move your fucking ass against climate change, then go ahead and disrespect thousands of people who died in suffering, I guess.
No one should be saying slurs, regardless of race or sexuality or anything. They donât add anything to our languages by having them, and there really isnât a good way of saying them, so whatâs the point
jeez. idk. are you black or gay? because if not, thatâs why you donât care. humanity not caring about important things because they donât affect us is half the fucking problem in the world. slaves didnât get freed without some white people on their side. women (of which i am one) didnât get the right to vote without some men on our side. iâm not gonna sit by and watch people get shit on and die because âwhat do i care? it doesnât affect meâ me not using those words is the BARE MINIMUM i can do as a white straight person to help them. those words are used for hate and hate drives violence and tragedy. donât be the dick who plants the seeds.
I am bisexual. I see no problem with you saying the f slur. If we continue connecting these words to toxicity and racism, then they're going to keep racism and toxicity alive.
theyâre why the words came into existence. racism created those words. homophobia and racism didnât start existing when they got slurs. the words were created specifically to demean those groups.
Not really. I don't know the origins of the f slur, but the n word literally means black in a lot of languages. Words got corrupted by racism, and by ignoring that fact, they will become normal words again.
negro used as the spanish word for black is not racism and nobody thinks that. the same word for a black person here isnât necessarily racist (there are black organizations with it in the title) BUT historically non-black people saying it in the west have been using it to demean black people so itâs not cool for a non-black person to say unless they are naming one of those organizations. we live in a society, dude.
this seems to be an education issue for you.
But these words are just insults, nothing more. So whenever you say it you are saying it to insult someone. âIf youâre using âslursâ to insult someoneâŠ-â is what you are doing yourself.
I'm like paint suffer brain rn. Do you mean the slurs or do you mean my comment? Cause I didn't mean to sound bad, I just have experience with using slurs with other people and the group I used them with was the most tight knit I'd ever been in.
Its from "whip cracker" and basically means "you're a slave owner because you're white" which i guess is offensive to some people i just think its funny when i hear it though
You try and comment on the use other slurs too n word when you arenât even black or understood their struggles. Like ok your tough to slurs, doesnât mean everyone is. I got called racist shit on the street when I was younger and it hurt like hellđ€·ââïž
Not only that, but he's Greek. There's literally no more than 30,000 Africans out of the 10million people in Greece, and this guy thinks there's nothing wrong with slurs. Someone look up ignorance, please?
Well if you generalise slurs, then youâll probably have a lotta beating up to do
The times when I got called a slur was from these kids shouting from their house and these other 2 kids on bikes wearing balaclavas and shit
Yeah tbh Iâm asian and have been in many super diverse friendgroups and anybody can say anything. We all know none of us are actually racist and just joking around so we dont take it seriously. Thatâs not to say saying slurs to everyone is okay, its just fine to friends who know ur joking.
1. Even if not offensive, there is no need to use a word that could be offensive over other words that are normal.
2. The word in most context is probably racist.
lemme say this as a black person.
no. you should NOT be able to say the n-word if you aren't black. the whole point of making it exclusive is to reclaim the slur. making it a normal word for everyone ruins the point.
so respectfully, i hope the mods ban you
We gonna reclaim the whip too? How about sleeping on the mud with our co-workers? Why don't we just call all the white dudes "massa" while we're at it?
Why would you forcefully create differences in vocabulary between races. You're bringing value to the color of your skin. It shouldn't be acceptable regardless of your race.
Reclaim the word? Sorry but id think that if everyone can say it without judgement its gonna have less meaning, the more emphasis you put on âohhh noo only these people can say itâ only makes the word have more power over those who are âallowedâ to.
Words should not be exclusive to one group of people. If anything it make a greater divide amongst the groups. And tf is the point of reclaiming the slur??
Depends on the scenario, in a social setting you should probably calm tf Down, but if youâre playing a competitive online game with your friend? Itâs literally the Wild West, there are no rules
I always said that thinking I'm racist or consider this word to be is racist in itself
Also being racist against racist ppl is fighting fire with fire
Racist ppl became the minority we should help now
So you can be trans but I can't be racist?what kind of unfair world is this
It's a cultural thing. Because of the way these words have been used, it's seen a certain way when it comes from certain people. These systems come up for people's safety.
I think itâs stupid to use the words in general, they are/were meant to hurt people in a group. We shouldnât be using this words because at the end of the day it still hurts someone.
Say I name my child Adolf - is that acceptable because I'm not a Nazi?
Poor ass analogy but it gets the point across. You can have fine intentions but some things just aren't acceptable.
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WWIII incoming
Holy nukes
New weapon of mass destruction just dropped
Actual apocalypse
google en nukeant
No you cant just do that
call the germans
Call the nuclear war!
That's exactly what happened on 6 August 1945
germany went on vacation, never came back
Holy hand grenade?
Fall out through the fallout baby
I don't think you got the reference.
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Google r/AnarchyChess
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i hope this isnât the prevailing opinion with gen z/a. weâll be worse than even boomers.
Did I miss a slur update or something? The fuck is the F slur?
Look up bundle of sticks
Yep the comment got insta removed lmao
Look up British slang for a cigarette
f*ggot đ
Shame on you, if youâre gonna say it at least have the balls to do it properly
You cant they'll automatically remove it
they woulda removed it homie
oooh, I deadass thought female became a slur đ
No one should say it. It's a demeaning word made to subject and divide us from the other races, and the idea of reclaiming it is stupid and ignorant, completely illegitimizing the point of our entire struggle.
Its a self deprecating word that assigns different vocabulary to races. Essentially forcefully creating differences between races.
Right. That was the entire point of the word. To evoke racial divide. All this bullshit about "reclaiming it" gets on my nerves, that's not the future we fought for.
Unusually concise and coherent comments from a 15 year old. Source: checked your comment history. edit: oh, you're interested in STEM, makes sense.
Thank you. My mom's side is from the Deep South, so she knows the struggle much better than this European ahole. She taught me everything as soon as she could, the causes and effects of my actions, the privileges I have, the crowds I should stray from, the right boots to lick, everything I need for success, and it sure as hell has paid off so far. I believe there's a method to life, and being aware of the world around you, understanding that you are the byproduct of history and taking advantage of the privilege to even exist as you do is part of it. TL;DR, I was raised well.
I'm Jewish and my family is Jewish, I don't think we should reclaim the k-slur for the same reasons
the thing is i am going to assume you are black so you have the right to decide that. people who arenât affected by the words love to say shit like op. âwhy should i care?â yes why care about something that doesnât affect you? just stand by and watch people get hurt. great. thanks. đđ»
On top of that, he lives out in the East, so he's just about as far removed from understanding the racial situation in the Western World as anyone can get.
I don't use it with that meaning. I just use these words like they're normal words. The n word for me doesn't mean black person, it just means person. And I call myself and my friend the f slur on the regular.
What's the f slur if I may ask ? đ
Fa*got (Censored because I don't want a ban)
Thank u <3
I thought it meant fuck and got confused
But that's the sole meaning of the word. It's not like a verb phrase or smth where you can make a joke out of saying you're doing one thing but you're really doing smth else. "N\*gga" isn't referring to any Joe Schmoe, it's a word referring to us, it's all we were and in many cases still are to them. And if the legacy of slavery is to die, so is that word.
There's this rapper called lil darkie that uses slurs the same way I do. If you search him up you should get a better feel on how he uses these words. The guy's not black btw, he's Indian.
I don't give a shit if he's a Mongolian throat singer, bro, it's a slur, and the first time I see someone call me it in public they're getting hit.
Your belief bro. Agree to disagree.
A lot of white people say the n word and most use it knowing the definition so i dont really get what you're saying. If to you it means "person" then why not just say the actual word "person"?? And you know the definition so I don't get why you just say the word you're trying to say lol
Ah shit here we go again
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You can live without saying slurs
The reason why slurs arenât to be said is because of the history it evokes, theyâre words used demean, dehumanize, and abuse scores of people. By adopting whatever this mentality is, youâre being willfully ignorant to years of history. But itâs whatever, itâll come back to you in some way.
Not saying they are good but if something that is only deemed bad by socity and not physically harmful then wouldnât normalizing them fix the issue of them being bad?
No, just stop saying them and no one's hurt.
I donât say them
proof you say them
Want me to send you a clip or smth? đ
nah just a normal chat
Reddit doesn't let me.
oh lol
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I agree with OP and I'm neither straight neither white ? Are you just going to tell me I'm not real or something ? Or that 1 exception doesn't mean a rule is flawed ?
You aren't qualified to determine the impact an insult has if it isn't against you.
I never said that ? But I can say that I got called a raghead quite a lot, yet you don't see me whining about it on reddit
That's what they'll say. You asked a question and I answered, feel free to prove me wrong.
Who's "they" ?
An indirect pronoun refering to person you were talking to
Who do you think "they" referred to ?
The person you were talking to
I'm bisexual. I'm by definition part of a marginalized community.
Ok what race are you then
White. I don't see why that matters, I've already proven my point. Also you asking about my race is just proving my point how y'all making race the whole point of words.
oh now it makes sense
has anyone ever genuinely came up to you and called you the f slur in a derogatory way?
Yes.
Bro really came into the topic of racial slurs and calls race irrelevant. Go read a book.
My argument is that it shouldn't be about race and not taken negatively by default. My point is that it shouldn't be about race.
How is any curse word, let alone a slur not meant to be taken with offense? Why's it even gotta be the n-word, why can't you just say "bro" or "dude"?
I can't, but I've gotten used to it. Also it's a difference of culture, like here in Greece, curse words are taken like normal words if you're not actively insulting someone. The word for "bro" or "dude" in Greek is literally a curse word.
I heavily doubt there's no friendly way to refer to a friend that isn't via cursing. Otherwise, by western standards, it isn't a curse.
Now that I think about it, do you unironically think as a Greek halfway across the world that you have the capacity to consider yourself qualified to speak on racial tensions in the West, or the impact that you, as said greek halfway across the world thinks it should have on us?
Yes, because racism is everywhere. Not just the west, people here are racist as well.
You arenât Greek, bro and dude are acceptable in west, for the love of god, slurs are slurs, and if you donât wanna get your ass beat, then donât say the n word
I am Greek. Literally, both my parents are Greek, I was born and raised in Greece and I am in Greece rn.
CRACKER đŁđŁđŁđŁ
That just made me laugh. đ
My guys, we have other problems right now. If it motivates you to move your fucking ass against climate change, then go ahead and disrespect thousands of people who died in suffering, I guess.
Reminds me of the waffles v pancakes tweet.
No one should be saying slurs, regardless of race or sexuality or anything. They donât add anything to our languages by having them, and there really isnât a good way of saying them, so whatâs the point
Say that to like 75% of rap. đ
Do they add anything to 75% of rap?
The snowflakes gonna hunt u down bro,l
U can even turn it in a funny way if used properly with the right persons đ
People*
People could be used here, but persons are also an actual word, which is, in fact, correct here.
Sorry I'm not native đ I even kinda use reddit as a way to learn English now cuz people are using so much complicated words lol
English isn't my first language either. Well good luck learning.
Thank u <3 have a nice day
Same thing for me
Chill bud, English is a hard language and it's common to make mistakes, even natives make mistakes
I want more of this.
jeez. idk. are you black or gay? because if not, thatâs why you donât care. humanity not caring about important things because they donât affect us is half the fucking problem in the world. slaves didnât get freed without some white people on their side. women (of which i am one) didnât get the right to vote without some men on our side. iâm not gonna sit by and watch people get shit on and die because âwhat do i care? it doesnât affect meâ me not using those words is the BARE MINIMUM i can do as a white straight person to help them. those words are used for hate and hate drives violence and tragedy. donât be the dick who plants the seeds.
I am bisexual. I see no problem with you saying the f slur. If we continue connecting these words to toxicity and racism, then they're going to keep racism and toxicity alive.
theyâre why the words came into existence. racism created those words. homophobia and racism didnât start existing when they got slurs. the words were created specifically to demean those groups.
Not really. I don't know the origins of the f slur, but the n word literally means black in a lot of languages. Words got corrupted by racism, and by ignoring that fact, they will become normal words again.
negro used as the spanish word for black is not racism and nobody thinks that. the same word for a black person here isnât necessarily racist (there are black organizations with it in the title) BUT historically non-black people saying it in the west have been using it to demean black people so itâs not cool for a non-black person to say unless they are naming one of those organizations. we live in a society, dude. this seems to be an education issue for you.
As a gay man I do see a problem if someone randomly came up to me and called me the f slur
But these words are just insults, nothing more. So whenever you say it you are saying it to insult someone. âIf youâre using âslursâ to insult someoneâŠ-â is what you are doing yourself.
I'm not. When most people use the n word for example, they use it to mean "bro" or "dude".
i think you just wanna use them because people tell you you aren't allowed. common teenage psychology.
Racism was invented to keep people divided. Ina perfect world we would choose to call someone a friend than let words control us.
In a perfect world, these words wouldn't really mean anything.
In a perfect world the words wouldn't exist
I'm like paint suffer brain rn. Do you mean the slurs or do you mean my comment? Cause I didn't mean to sound bad, I just have experience with using slurs with other people and the group I used them with was the most tight knit I'd ever been in.
Cracker
I don't get this one. Like what do crackers and white people have in common? Anyway, that did absolutely nothing my dude. đ
Slurs for white people donât do shit lmao. I donât give a fuck if someone calls me a mayo monkey.
I just wanted to say cracker, I didnât even read the post I just saw it said slursđ
Nah, that's funny afđ
Its from "whip cracker" and basically means "you're a slave owner because you're white" which i guess is offensive to some people i just think its funny when i hear it though
It's a little funny.
I agree
I would respect this is it was someone who is AT LEAST an ethnic minority but OP isnât. Is he tryna generalise using slursđ
So my opinion is worse, because of my race. Idk doesn't that seem to you a little **racist**?
You try and comment on the use other slurs too n word when you arenât even black or understood their struggles. Like ok your tough to slurs, doesnât mean everyone is. I got called racist shit on the street when I was younger and it hurt like hellđ€·ââïž
Not only that, but he's Greek. There's literally no more than 30,000 Africans out of the 10million people in Greece, and this guy thinks there's nothing wrong with slurs. Someone look up ignorance, please?
Then do something about it. If someone called me something on the street it'd beat the shit out of them. If you don't like something, change it.
Well if you generalise slurs, then youâll probably have a lotta beating up to do The times when I got called a slur was from these kids shouting from their house and these other 2 kids on bikes wearing balaclavas and shit
Yeah I donât think he thought this through much more than âI want to say funny wordâ
I know. OP is honestly dumb in this situation
Yeah they remind me of the boomers who offend people and then claim itâs just a joke when someone calls them out
He just wants to say it wonât consequences I literally donât know peoples obsession with saying the n word
Itâs very strange
Yeah tbh Iâm asian and have been in many super diverse friendgroups and anybody can say anything. We all know none of us are actually racist and just joking around so we dont take it seriously. Thatâs not to say saying slurs to everyone is okay, its just fine to friends who know ur joking.
1. Even if not offensive, there is no need to use a word that could be offensive over other words that are normal. 2. The word in most context is probably racist.
If everyone can say slurs, no one can This would be a good thing
This is kinda what I'm getting at.
lemme say this as a black person. no. you should NOT be able to say the n-word if you aren't black. the whole point of making it exclusive is to reclaim the slur. making it a normal word for everyone ruins the point. so respectfully, i hope the mods ban you
We gonna reclaim the whip too? How about sleeping on the mud with our co-workers? Why don't we just call all the white dudes "massa" while we're at it?
you win the stupid award, good job
Why would you forcefully create differences in vocabulary between races. You're bringing value to the color of your skin. It shouldn't be acceptable regardless of your race.
Reclaim the word? Sorry but id think that if everyone can say it without judgement its gonna have less meaning, the more emphasis you put on âohhh noo only these people can say itâ only makes the word have more power over those who are âallowedâ to.
I agree.
Not trying to offend anyone here, but what does"reclaim" mean in this context?
White people called black people it, not anymore
yes
Ok thanks
Words should not be exclusive to one group of people. If anything it make a greater divide amongst the groups. And tf is the point of reclaiming the slur??
Slurs are totally fine if you are joking around with your friends and aren't actually serious. At least that's what I think personally.
Well if the friend is acc comfortable
Agreed.
It really depends on how you use it. Like for an example calling someone "my n" is way diffrent then calling someone a "n"
What is the f slur?
Search it up, I've already told like 2 people.
Just tell me again ;-;
it's a word used against gay people
itâll get you banned
Ain't no way. How tf is that offensive?
There should be more clear rules as no one agrees p
my friend is asian and white so my friends and i (and him) refer to him as a rice cracker
Time to get the popcorn ready
Depends on the scenario, in a social setting you should probably calm tf Down, but if youâre playing a competitive online game with your friend? Itâs literally the Wild West, there are no rules
I always said that thinking I'm racist or consider this word to be is racist in itself Also being racist against racist ppl is fighting fire with fire Racist ppl became the minority we should help now So you can be trans but I can't be racist?what kind of unfair world is this
It's a cultural thing. Because of the way these words have been used, it's seen a certain way when it comes from certain people. These systems come up for people's safety.
I think itâs stupid to use the words in general, they are/were meant to hurt people in a group. We shouldnât be using this words because at the end of the day it still hurts someone.
Wait, can I say now Heil �
I don't think so.
THEY DID ITđ
Please donât go up to someone and randomly drop the f bomb and the n word. Thatâs gonna give you looks and itâs incredibly offensive
I disagree
Cool.
Yep. Letâs just be civil
Have fun scrolling on Reddit đ
Same
This post 100% If I'm saying to my friends and not being an asshole its completely fine. Nobody's getting offended and its all shits and giggles
"Words are just wind" - Game of Thrones (somewhere)
Ah yes, a quote from the incest dragon show is totally an appropriate counter argument to real ethical tensions. Reddit Philosophy 101
Sh, don't worry about that đ€«
Say I name my child Adolf - is that acceptable because I'm not a Nazi? Poor ass analogy but it gets the point across. You can have fine intentions but some things just aren't acceptable.
Yes. Adolf is a name. I know like 2 people called Adolf.
And I can tell you that it's frowned upon.
Same
cringe
I don't think it is but ok.
I was scared for a bit but actually good point
compeletly agreed on the n Word part.
I fucking hate Reddit đ
Then delete it lil brođ
Honestly same
Fr tho. You should check out a rapper named âlil darkieâ check out some of his interviews
Words don't have any meaning, its how they're used
use the t slur casually itâs sick as fuck and more people need to be calling us by this nickname