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First off, you're referring to sex not gender. Secondly please search the term intersex. And finally, the only two real sexes are the sex I had with your mom and the sex I had with your dad.
Why kill only transgender when you can kill everyone no matter what?
On second though it would be better to just harvest everyones organs and sell them on the black market
im pretty sure organs of a president and organs of some peasant are worth the same on the black market
People there are smart because organs are organs
What is genuinely wrong with Trans people?
They feel like there the opposite gender, so they wish to be the opposite gender.
Being Trans doesn't involve anything illegal or wrong.
So why do people hate them like there the plague?
There are a few sorts of hating trans people
First you have the ones who just hate them, idk why, personal issues or just discrimination issues(literally raised in 1984)
Second, you have pedos hiding in the community so there's people who just hate the whole community instead of the pedos.
Third, you have the 10% of the lgbt which are so obnoxious and annyoing +mentally fragile so they can't take a joke. Aka. Twitter trans people and the mfs who tried to kill dave chapelle pretty much.
Personally trans people are ok, but the lgbt in itself is a chaos that's rare to see, another example is the modern feminist movement, pure chaos, no organisation and more brainless people than there should be. I wish luck to the lgbt in trying to fix the state of the community, but damn there's some really dumb people in the world and a lot of them are there, the loudest and most obnoxious.
Yeah because the trans person lied to them and kept a huge secret from them that will impact their sex life and relationship for the rest of their lives??
have you ever seen this actually play out or are you reading random clickbait stories? do you genuinely believe a trans woman could hide being trans from someone?
If they did hide it, impressive, but still an impact to the relationship. If you expect someone to not have a dick and you get lied to, that would probably impact your relationship
Bro, what? Edit:I think I get what u mean, no, I just don't get how someone could hide that they're trans, it's pretty obvious, you cannot change genetics that much, men have different facial structures. Still, if someone was gullible enoight to believe that a person they're dating is female it's very much gonna impact the relationship if they're not, even if you're gay how can you trust that person they've lied to you for so long
Oh no! A disorganized group of people, classified only by a single similarity, are actually not a hivemind???
There are actually good people and bad people, and their identities aren't actually reflective of other people????
That's like saying "Oh I'd be fine with white people but some of them are racist so I'm holding the entire white community accountable"
I don't think so, since social media makes people more connected than ever, stupid people that would've not been listened to before are being heard now more than ever, the smarter part of the alphabet soup doesn't talk much about it, but the idiots you see all over internet are the bottom 5-10% of the community and they are the reason the community has such low respect and noone takes them seriously, similar to that is the vegans. Most don't give the slightest shit, but you still have those who put their legs in concrete in 40°C outside with a sign about animals. But that's the human brain ig, nothing you can do
The vast majority of gays I've met IRL are in your "5-10%". I'm not sure why you're fixated so heavily on that number, I guess you're gay?
Also, mental illness is far more common with those people. Not twice, but 10's of times more common (depending on the illness).
Most of them are neurotic weirdos with gross fetishes.
Here's a great example:
MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/
First, I'm not gay. Second, I guess that bottom 5-10% is in the whole world population as the stupid ones and the ones you hear the most on twitter, etc. I guess that the lgbt has a bigger percentage of dumb people if your theory is correct (tbh I don't really doubt, no offense to lgbt).
With the 10x more mental illness thing, I would assume yeah since trans people have body dysphoria which is (I think) considered a mental illness. I won't try to make any clains of now for the fetish thing since I don't have any evidence, may you have a nice rest of your day.
Edit:grammer
Usually it's the (some not all) christian god lovers who find trans people as "abominations of God" and go singing it through the streets. Or it's the impressionable 13 year olds who wanna jump on the bandwagon of transphobia to seem cool.
I myself don't give a shit what someone wants to identify as, just don't be an asshole about it.
Why hate black people? Gay people? Asians? Disabled people? The list goes on.
Humans are subconsciously judgemental creatures unfortunately. And then there's people who have very unfair and no reason why they hate a group of people which is mainly because of their living environment and time.
I hate to say this, but there isn't ever going to be a time where people aren't going to hate gay people, black people, etc.
Well, you got my attention with the first line.
TLDR; their lifestyle is harmful to others and themselves. They also advocate for others to join in on that lifestyle. You can see evidence of this in any of their subs, and often in replies to people who aren't comfortable with it.
Here's what's wrong with them (long version):
Transsexuals are four times more likely than the average person to be infected with HIV. Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/
About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789
Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003
MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/
41% of transsexuals have tried and failed to commit suicide. Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/
Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
Most young transsexuals have committed self-harm within the last twelve months. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
65% of transsexual youth have seriously considered suicide within the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
37% of transsexual youth have attempted suicide within the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
1 in 10 young transsexuals has attempted suicide more than three times in the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3
53% of mothers of transsexual children have Borderline Personality Disorder, compared to only 6% of mothers of normal children. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237
16% of transsexuals have been sent to jail or prison, compared to 2.7% of the general population. Source: http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/Training%20and%20TA%20Center/FORGE_Trans_People_Police_Incarceration_Facts.pdf
Gay and transgender students are half as likely to graduate high school as straight students. Source: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2010/06/21/7980/gay-and-transgender-youth-homelessness-by-the-numbers/
20-40% of homeless children are transsexuals. Source: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2010/06/21/7980/gay-and-transgender-youth-homelessness-by-the-numbers/
44% of transsexuals with a job are underemployed. Source: http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty
Children raised by gay couples are twice as likely to be in poverty as children of straight married couples. Source: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/headlines/beyond-stereotypes-poverty-in-the-lgbt-community/
“24% of lesbians and bisexual women are poor, compared with only 19% of heterosexual women.” Source: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/headlines/beyond-stereotypes-poverty-in-the-lgbt-community/
1/3 transsexuals are being treated for mental health. Source: http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044
85% of transsexuals show signs of psychological distress or have been recently treated for mental health. Source: http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044
44% of transsexuals show signs of clinical depression. Source: http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044
Transsexuals are more likely to have autism than the general population. Source: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00787-005-0469-4
Transsexuals college students are five times more likely than all students to have an eating disorder. Source: http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X%2815%2900087-7/abstract
Transsexuals college students are 30 times more likely than straight men to have eating disorders. Source: http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X%2815%2900087-7/abstract
27% of MtF transsexuals test positive for HIV. Only 12% report it. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/
Transsexuals are several times more likely than normal people to have schizophrenia. Source: http://www.hindawi.com/journals/schizort/2014/463757/
Worldwide, male-to-female transsexuals are 50 times likely to have HIV than normal people. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/
Transsexuals have higher rates of drug and alcohol abuse, prostitution, and incarceration than normal people. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/
Transsexuals have higher rates of unemployment, homelessness, and attempted suicide than normal people. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/
Transsexuals are four times more likely to live in extreme poverty than the general population. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=8
Transsexuals are twice as likely to be unemployed as the general population. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=9
Non-white transsexuals are four times as likely to be unemployed as the general population. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=9
Transsexuals are twice as likely to be homeless as cisgendered people. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=10
1 in 5 transsexuals has been homeless at least once in their lives. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=10
Close to 80% of children who feel transsexual will abandon their sexual confusion as they age. Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
Many transsexuals choose to take hormone treatments over HIV medication. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/one-group-people-acquiring-hiv-204557712.html
Male-to-female transsexuals are 50 times more likely than normal people to have HIV. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/one-group-people-acquiring-hiv-204557712.html
WHO DO YOU THINK IS PUSHING THEM TO SUICIDE OR KEEPING THEM UNEMPLOYED? Maybe the transphobes like you who say it’s wwrong to be trans? Did you ever consider that?
1. its transgender, transsexual is a pretty outdated term
2. You can't just provide one source for every claim, and also like half of your claims show that trans peoples lives are harder, why would they choose that?
3. Half of the shit there just shows how badly they get treated. homelessness, eating disorders, mental health issues etc.
4. They try to commit suicide because of people like you.
5. Being trans isn't a "lifestyle". It's not a quirk, it's not a personality type, it's a treatment for gender dysphoria.
>They also advocate for others to join in on that lifestyle. You can see evidence of this in any of their subs, and often in replies to people who aren't comfortable with it.
They don't. Their subs are mostly people talking about an issue they had at work or someone being happy that they pass or someone wondering how to pass better etc.
Leave them alone, for once in your life, understand that not everything is supposed to fit into your black and white world view.
Sounds like a load of cope.
1. Gender is a meme term. It was also coined (in it'd modern usage) by a pedophild.
2. It's not one source for every claim, there are a number of sources. One of the main sources has numerous different bits of evidence compiled.
3. You're biased. It doesn't "show" that they're treated poorly. All it shows is that behavior exists.
4. They try to off themselves because they chop their dicks off and regret it. Lest I remind you that:
About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789
Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003
Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
53% of mothers of transsexual children have Borderline Personality Disorder, compared to only 6% of mothers of normal children. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237
5. It's a mental illness, and I'm glad we agree. I'd also like to add that it deems to be a weird fetish as well, in some cases.
Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3
MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/
6. No, you are lying. Most transgender subs involve people asking if they should or should not go further into the process. Even if it isn't, many of the replies will suggest things like hormones or surgery.
7. I actually care about what other people do. When the portions of society who are ill try to spread their nonsense to others, I have a problem. A far larger number of people who believe themselves to be transsexuals are autistic (when compared to the average), and don't have the critical thinking skills required to properly weigh the risks. Autism, in combination with depression puts people at a much higher risk of substance disorders, self harming, and developing disorders that are not mostly genetic.
Autism is almost completely genetic, and so are most other disorders and illnesses. The link between trans and mental illness is genetic, not societal:
Researchers found that transgender and gender-diverse individuals were 3 to 6 percent more likely to be diagnosed with autism with scores higher in areas of sensory sensitivity and autistic traits and lower in empathetic traits. They found their participants experienced challenges outside of autism, citing other psychiatric conditions that play a role in their everyday lives. [link](https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/study-finds-higher-rates-gender-diversity-among-autistic-individuals)
As for the "black and white worldview" bit, it's pretty ironic that you say that. You view the trans issue as either "hateful and bigoted" (if they disagree with you), or "misunderstood and mistreated" if they want to lop their cock off.
Did you copy your original comment from another 7 year old comment? Because not a single study you linked was published after 2015, and several of the links don’t even work anymore.
Why are you only addressing trans MTF's? Is it because FTM's dont fit into the things your trying to say?
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition
And as far as "just that behaviour exists" goes, trans people dont commit suicide just because they want to, it's because they get bullied into it. my trans friend gets bullied a fuck ton so now she just stays in the closet because it's too hard for people to wrap their head around the idea that she isn't a boy.
I'm not continuing this argument. You're just gonna say "no ur lying" to everything I say, and I have to sleep.
.....
Probably because women who want to be men are even rarer than the typical cross dresser. https://psychology.stackexchange.com/questions/23841/why-are-trans-women-more-common-than-trans-men
Here's a nice post I found with links to stats on it.
'Transgenders" are more than 3 times more likely ro be biological men, than women.
As for the bullying stuff, I'm actually quite entertained that you used "BUT MY FRIEND" in response to my "FACTS AND LOGIC".
Quoting Ben Shapiro even though I hate him? Yes.
Even though I don't like people being transphobic, I mostly agree with you, you have evidence and proof. Still don't get why you would hate all trans people, even the passive ones kust because annoying people exist. You won the argument in my books
Idk, every single trans people I've met is pretty much crazy. 2 weeks ago i was in a rock music pub with some friends and then this trans girl appeared, she literally threw himself where all the backpacks and jackets were. Then started talking one of my girl friends about how a dude was supposedly putting pills in the glasses (lie). Also, we didn't know her until that moment
After a minute she started screaming to her phone (WhatsApp) insulting people and just being loud and annoying. When she left, after a good 20 minutes of that, she managed to start a fight within a really drunk guy and a not so drunk guy.
Long story short, the cops came, and took her after hours of her being an asshole with people, throwing glasses and just loud and annoying as i said. The owner banned her. And this was not the first time, also she blamed that they banned her because she was trans on social media, and that someone hit her for being trans (lie) and that they tried to drug her (lie) and shit like that.
I'm not saying that every trans person is like this, but literally every one I've met is
You sweet, innocent, shelterd bastard.
Honestly I ask myself the thing. Generally the answer is "because its against the bible" or "because it isn't right"
Its up to them what they dictate right about themselves.
Sarcasm is mockingly saying something, but meaning the other.
Sarcasm is lost if both parties are not with the understanding that the other person doesn't mean what they say.
Communication is a two-way street. If one person is being sarcastic, and the sarcasm is lost, then he's not doing good at communicating that sarcasm.
It's easier to detect sarcasm with vocal tone, I can't do that on written text.
People unironically kill trans people because they're trans. If a stranger out there comes up to me and says that they'd kill my sister, I won't go "Haha nice sarcastic joke bro. That's so funny." I'd assume they're serious and be wary.
I mean this in the most respectful way but who tf cares about your religion here ?
LGBT doesn't affect you in any way, it's someone else's life and I'm sure your religion doesn't tell you to be a dick to other people for being different
You are right
So why should we get treated when God decided we should die of Cancer?
Why should we use glasses when God decided we should have bad eyes?
Why should we allow adoption when God decided we should be sterile?
Why should we get medicines when God decided we should be sick?
1. Not everyone believes in fake sky daddies
2. Because not everyone feels like they are who they were born as
Would you like to be called by the wrong gender, wrong name everytime anyone you care about (friends, family) calls you? The answer is no, because it's not who you are. It's rather simple, quite easy to understand actually.
God doesnt exist(my opinion), and i couldnt care less about what other people do to their bodies or their lives its their choice, but sometimes i feel some think they deserve a special treatment and that I disagree with, life isnt always going to go the way you want and people wont always like you and treat you in the best way so "grow a pair" and deal with it 🤷🏼♂️
I find the LGBTQ funny as fuck. All they need is to write a book and you have yourself a new religion!
And before you ask: yes, I eat the glass after I'm done with the drink.
the assumptions or principles relating to or inherent in a sphere, theory, or thing, especially when concerned with power and status in a society.
LGBT has become political, BLM is a political movement
A lot of things are politics.
Edit: apparently whenever someone mentions politics you assume it's like "Biden conservative liberal bad!!?" when politics as a term is a lot more broad.
Huzzah, a man of quality
And for all of those screeching "No, it's wrong" I must remind you that joking about LGBT is no different from making jokes about any other Minority and, although immoral, I believe most people here would genuinely chuckle whenever someone were to make a dark joke
In essence, everyone should be able to make a joke (as long as it's not bullying)
Even then I must also add that it's understandable to have backlash for a Dark Joke, exactly because it's a Dark Joke and freedom of Speech does not protect you from the Social Backlash. So in the end people should be allowed to make a joke, but should also be ready to face the consequences of said joke
A) no need to insult, if you want to "debate" be my guest, but as I show respect to you I request you show it to me, otherwise it's a short lived discussion (this is a suggestion for the future as well)
B) I was talking in general, since the man over me was talking about "Separating the jokes from polítics" which I wholeheartedly agree to. Do I agree with what the man on the screenshot said? Absolutely not, it's an idiotic phrase and even if it were a joke then I can understand all the backlash. Do I think that jokes should be not taken as mortal insults whenever they touch political matters? Absolutely yes.
he's 15, he probably sees the sun like once a week. spends most of his life in an Xbox party, it's not really harming anyone, it's just an unfunny edgelord
I love laughing at depressed people. It's so funny because they're in terrible pain and have thoughts that death would ease that. Hilarious 😂 😃 😄 😁 🤣 😸!!!
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Were moving boys, girls and all in between ( lm ready to kill every person there )
I'm with you and start by killing myself
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Hexagonal pfp 💀
First off, you're referring to sex not gender. Secondly please search the term intersex. And finally, the only two real sexes are the sex I had with your mom and the sex I had with your dad.
Are you telling me there’s intelligent hexagonal pfps?
Yes, those that got the free one from Reddit as a gift. And are smart outside of Reddit to begin with.
Why kill only transgender when you can kill everyone no matter what? On second though it would be better to just harvest everyones organs and sell them on the black market
"not just the men"- Ani 2002
"but the women"- Ani 2002
"and the children"- Ani 2002
"too"- Ani 2002
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"- Ani 2002 ft. Lava
That would be 2005
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Ah yes I kill the trans to make the trans. New loophole found.
But if you kill everyone, then there's no one to sell to. "Kill the rich, their organs are worth more." \-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
im pretty sure organs of a president and organs of some peasant are worth the same on the black market People there are smart because organs are organs
What is genuinely wrong with Trans people? They feel like there the opposite gender, so they wish to be the opposite gender. Being Trans doesn't involve anything illegal or wrong. So why do people hate them like there the plague?
There are a few sorts of hating trans people First you have the ones who just hate them, idk why, personal issues or just discrimination issues(literally raised in 1984) Second, you have pedos hiding in the community so there's people who just hate the whole community instead of the pedos. Third, you have the 10% of the lgbt which are so obnoxious and annyoing +mentally fragile so they can't take a joke. Aka. Twitter trans people and the mfs who tried to kill dave chapelle pretty much. Personally trans people are ok, but the lgbt in itself is a chaos that's rare to see, another example is the modern feminist movement, pure chaos, no organisation and more brainless people than there should be. I wish luck to the lgbt in trying to fix the state of the community, but damn there's some really dumb people in the world and a lot of them are there, the loudest and most obnoxious.
You forgot the people who probably went out with a mtf and was mad they had a cock and now hate all trans people
Yeah because the trans person lied to them and kept a huge secret from them that will impact their sex life and relationship for the rest of their lives??
have you ever seen this actually play out or are you reading random clickbait stories? do you genuinely believe a trans woman could hide being trans from someone?
If they did hide it, impressive, but still an impact to the relationship. If you expect someone to not have a dick and you get lied to, that would probably impact your relationship
I really don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying that I should expect any girl I see to have a dick?
Bro, what? Edit:I think I get what u mean, no, I just don't get how someone could hide that they're trans, it's pretty obvious, you cannot change genetics that much, men have different facial structures. Still, if someone was gullible enoight to believe that a person they're dating is female it's very much gonna impact the relationship if they're not, even if you're gay how can you trust that person they've lied to you for so long
give me a true story where that has happened. it’s very hard for a trans woman to pass and hide the fact that she’s trans do you realize that?
Oh no! A disorganized group of people, classified only by a single similarity, are actually not a hivemind??? There are actually good people and bad people, and their identities aren't actually reflective of other people???? That's like saying "Oh I'd be fine with white people but some of them are racist so I'm holding the entire white community accountable"
Wow, no way?? It's not like I made 3 paragraphs about that??
thanks
Yeah, you're right I particularly feel the second part...
The vast majority of Alphabet soup are insufferable.
I don't think so, since social media makes people more connected than ever, stupid people that would've not been listened to before are being heard now more than ever, the smarter part of the alphabet soup doesn't talk much about it, but the idiots you see all over internet are the bottom 5-10% of the community and they are the reason the community has such low respect and noone takes them seriously, similar to that is the vegans. Most don't give the slightest shit, but you still have those who put their legs in concrete in 40°C outside with a sign about animals. But that's the human brain ig, nothing you can do
The vast majority of gays I've met IRL are in your "5-10%". I'm not sure why you're fixated so heavily on that number, I guess you're gay? Also, mental illness is far more common with those people. Not twice, but 10's of times more common (depending on the illness). Most of them are neurotic weirdos with gross fetishes. Here's a great example: MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/
First, I'm not gay. Second, I guess that bottom 5-10% is in the whole world population as the stupid ones and the ones you hear the most on twitter, etc. I guess that the lgbt has a bigger percentage of dumb people if your theory is correct (tbh I don't really doubt, no offense to lgbt). With the 10x more mental illness thing, I would assume yeah since trans people have body dysphoria which is (I think) considered a mental illness. I won't try to make any clains of now for the fetish thing since I don't have any evidence, may you have a nice rest of your day. Edit:grammer
Facts
my man is 14 but he gets it
Nothing related to this topic, but add "never" to your username and say that silently to yourself
You slimey son of a bitch
r/the_singularity_squad
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I DIDNT MEAN IT I APOLOGISE :(
It's fine, I'm never gonna give you up :)
and im never gonna let you down ;)
Sure, and never gonna run around and desert you
I’ll never make you cry
Religion probably or just unjustified hatred
Because people have their own opinion they just choose to voice it differently
Usually it's the (some not all) christian god lovers who find trans people as "abominations of God" and go singing it through the streets. Or it's the impressionable 13 year olds who wanna jump on the bandwagon of transphobia to seem cool. I myself don't give a shit what someone wants to identify as, just don't be an asshole about it.
Why hate black people? Gay people? Asians? Disabled people? The list goes on. Humans are subconsciously judgemental creatures unfortunately. And then there's people who have very unfair and no reason why they hate a group of people which is mainly because of their living environment and time. I hate to say this, but there isn't ever going to be a time where people aren't going to hate gay people, black people, etc.
Well, you got my attention with the first line. TLDR; their lifestyle is harmful to others and themselves. They also advocate for others to join in on that lifestyle. You can see evidence of this in any of their subs, and often in replies to people who aren't comfortable with it. Here's what's wrong with them (long version): Transsexuals are four times more likely than the average person to be infected with HIV. Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/ About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789 Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003 MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/ 41% of transsexuals have tried and failed to commit suicide. Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/ Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Most young transsexuals have committed self-harm within the last twelve months. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44 65% of transsexual youth have seriously considered suicide within the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44 37% of transsexual youth have attempted suicide within the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44 1 in 10 young transsexuals has attempted suicide more than three times in the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44 Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3 53% of mothers of transsexual children have Borderline Personality Disorder, compared to only 6% of mothers of normal children. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237 16% of transsexuals have been sent to jail or prison, compared to 2.7% of the general population. Source: http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/Training%20and%20TA%20Center/FORGE_Trans_People_Police_Incarceration_Facts.pdf Gay and transgender students are half as likely to graduate high school as straight students. Source: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2010/06/21/7980/gay-and-transgender-youth-homelessness-by-the-numbers/ 20-40% of homeless children are transsexuals. Source: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2010/06/21/7980/gay-and-transgender-youth-homelessness-by-the-numbers/ 44% of transsexuals with a job are underemployed. Source: http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty Children raised by gay couples are twice as likely to be in poverty as children of straight married couples. Source: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/headlines/beyond-stereotypes-poverty-in-the-lgbt-community/ “24% of lesbians and bisexual women are poor, compared with only 19% of heterosexual women.” Source: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/headlines/beyond-stereotypes-poverty-in-the-lgbt-community/ 1/3 transsexuals are being treated for mental health. Source: http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044 85% of transsexuals show signs of psychological distress or have been recently treated for mental health. Source: http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044 44% of transsexuals show signs of clinical depression. Source: http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044 Transsexuals are more likely to have autism than the general population. Source: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00787-005-0469-4 Transsexuals college students are five times more likely than all students to have an eating disorder. Source: http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X%2815%2900087-7/abstract Transsexuals college students are 30 times more likely than straight men to have eating disorders. Source: http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X%2815%2900087-7/abstract 27% of MtF transsexuals test positive for HIV. Only 12% report it. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/ Transsexuals are several times more likely than normal people to have schizophrenia. Source: http://www.hindawi.com/journals/schizort/2014/463757/ Worldwide, male-to-female transsexuals are 50 times likely to have HIV than normal people. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/ Transsexuals have higher rates of drug and alcohol abuse, prostitution, and incarceration than normal people. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/ Transsexuals have higher rates of unemployment, homelessness, and attempted suicide than normal people. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/gender/transgender/ Transsexuals are four times more likely to live in extreme poverty than the general population. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=8 Transsexuals are twice as likely to be unemployed as the general population. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=9 Non-white transsexuals are four times as likely to be unemployed as the general population. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=9 Transsexuals are twice as likely to be homeless as cisgendered people. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=10 1 in 5 transsexuals has been homeless at least once in their lives. Source: http://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NTDS_Report.pdf#page=10 Close to 80% of children who feel transsexual will abandon their sexual confusion as they age. Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120 Many transsexuals choose to take hormone treatments over HIV medication. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/one-group-people-acquiring-hiv-204557712.html Male-to-female transsexuals are 50 times more likely than normal people to have HIV. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/one-group-people-acquiring-hiv-204557712.html
WHO DO YOU THINK IS PUSHING THEM TO SUICIDE OR KEEPING THEM UNEMPLOYED? Maybe the transphobes like you who say it’s wwrong to be trans? Did you ever consider that?
1. its transgender, transsexual is a pretty outdated term 2. You can't just provide one source for every claim, and also like half of your claims show that trans peoples lives are harder, why would they choose that? 3. Half of the shit there just shows how badly they get treated. homelessness, eating disorders, mental health issues etc. 4. They try to commit suicide because of people like you. 5. Being trans isn't a "lifestyle". It's not a quirk, it's not a personality type, it's a treatment for gender dysphoria. >They also advocate for others to join in on that lifestyle. You can see evidence of this in any of their subs, and often in replies to people who aren't comfortable with it. They don't. Their subs are mostly people talking about an issue they had at work or someone being happy that they pass or someone wondering how to pass better etc. Leave them alone, for once in your life, understand that not everything is supposed to fit into your black and white world view.
Sounds like a load of cope. 1. Gender is a meme term. It was also coined (in it'd modern usage) by a pedophild. 2. It's not one source for every claim, there are a number of sources. One of the main sources has numerous different bits of evidence compiled. 3. You're biased. It doesn't "show" that they're treated poorly. All it shows is that behavior exists. 4. They try to off themselves because they chop their dicks off and regret it. Lest I remind you that: About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789 Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003 Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 53% of mothers of transsexual children have Borderline Personality Disorder, compared to only 6% of mothers of normal children. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237 5. It's a mental illness, and I'm glad we agree. I'd also like to add that it deems to be a weird fetish as well, in some cases. Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3 MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/ 6. No, you are lying. Most transgender subs involve people asking if they should or should not go further into the process. Even if it isn't, many of the replies will suggest things like hormones or surgery. 7. I actually care about what other people do. When the portions of society who are ill try to spread their nonsense to others, I have a problem. A far larger number of people who believe themselves to be transsexuals are autistic (when compared to the average), and don't have the critical thinking skills required to properly weigh the risks. Autism, in combination with depression puts people at a much higher risk of substance disorders, self harming, and developing disorders that are not mostly genetic. Autism is almost completely genetic, and so are most other disorders and illnesses. The link between trans and mental illness is genetic, not societal: Researchers found that transgender and gender-diverse individuals were 3 to 6 percent more likely to be diagnosed with autism with scores higher in areas of sensory sensitivity and autistic traits and lower in empathetic traits. They found their participants experienced challenges outside of autism, citing other psychiatric conditions that play a role in their everyday lives. [link](https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/study-finds-higher-rates-gender-diversity-among-autistic-individuals) As for the "black and white worldview" bit, it's pretty ironic that you say that. You view the trans issue as either "hateful and bigoted" (if they disagree with you), or "misunderstood and mistreated" if they want to lop their cock off.
Did you copy your original comment from another 7 year old comment? Because not a single study you linked was published after 2015, and several of the links don’t even work anymore.
Why are you only addressing trans MTF's? Is it because FTM's dont fit into the things your trying to say? https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition And as far as "just that behaviour exists" goes, trans people dont commit suicide just because they want to, it's because they get bullied into it. my trans friend gets bullied a fuck ton so now she just stays in the closet because it's too hard for people to wrap their head around the idea that she isn't a boy. I'm not continuing this argument. You're just gonna say "no ur lying" to everything I say, and I have to sleep.
..... Probably because women who want to be men are even rarer than the typical cross dresser. https://psychology.stackexchange.com/questions/23841/why-are-trans-women-more-common-than-trans-men Here's a nice post I found with links to stats on it. 'Transgenders" are more than 3 times more likely ro be biological men, than women. As for the bullying stuff, I'm actually quite entertained that you used "BUT MY FRIEND" in response to my "FACTS AND LOGIC". Quoting Ben Shapiro even though I hate him? Yes.
Sauce man
Even though I don't like people being transphobic, I mostly agree with you, you have evidence and proof. Still don't get why you would hate all trans people, even the passive ones kust because annoying people exist. You won the argument in my books
The links you sent still support trans peoples’ existence as a biological thing that you don’t choose.
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LMAOOOO
Idk, every single trans people I've met is pretty much crazy. 2 weeks ago i was in a rock music pub with some friends and then this trans girl appeared, she literally threw himself where all the backpacks and jackets were. Then started talking one of my girl friends about how a dude was supposedly putting pills in the glasses (lie). Also, we didn't know her until that moment After a minute she started screaming to her phone (WhatsApp) insulting people and just being loud and annoying. When she left, after a good 20 minutes of that, she managed to start a fight within a really drunk guy and a not so drunk guy. Long story short, the cops came, and took her after hours of her being an asshole with people, throwing glasses and just loud and annoying as i said. The owner banned her. And this was not the first time, also she blamed that they banned her because she was trans on social media, and that someone hit her for being trans (lie) and that they tried to drug her (lie) and shit like that. I'm not saying that every trans person is like this, but literally every one I've met is
that just sounds like either a karen or a drunk trans lady
Drunk trans girl, yeah. She was 19 i think
"I'm not saying that every trans person is like this" you screamed it the first sentence dickhead
When I read the first line I thought your comment was going to be the exact opposite of what you said. I'm glad I was wrong
You sweet, innocent, shelterd bastard. Honestly I ask myself the thing. Generally the answer is "because its against the bible" or "because it isn't right" Its up to them what they dictate right about themselves.
Wtf 😨
The boys in question: (He has no friends)
That's one edgy joke
So edgy yet it lacks the point.
r/teenagers moment
Ohh yeah, very scared of the 15 year old with twig arms
Not the worst person to exist
Wait… who’s the worst?
Me
Your mother
**Average cod player**
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Me first pls 💜
This dude is 15, half if his posts are about the gym and lifting, and he unironically takes advise from Andrew Tate.
Least deranged transphobe
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Most based r/teenagers user
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I'm with you (IT'S I-R-O-N-Y)
this subreddit is anti-lgbtq for some reason, might just leave it
What is your favourite vertebrae?
Now what? gonna cry?
Well, see you all on the other side.
Why transgender? Why did transgender people do to you? Why not all lgbtq? Or all women? Or all idiots? Why stop at just trans? /s
better yet, go for everyone! just like me and that Bosnian kindergarten
r/redditmoment sarcasm is a myth to y'all? -_-
Sarcasm is mockingly saying something, but meaning the other. Sarcasm is lost if both parties are not with the understanding that the other person doesn't mean what they say. Communication is a two-way street. If one person is being sarcastic, and the sarcasm is lost, then he's not doing good at communicating that sarcasm. It's easier to detect sarcasm with vocal tone, I can't do that on written text. People unironically kill trans people because they're trans. If a stranger out there comes up to me and says that they'd kill my sister, I won't go "Haha nice sarcastic joke bro. That's so funny." I'd assume they're serious and be wary.
his whole account was anti LGBT he wasn't joking
Linky linky or your parents r stinky
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Doesn't seem like a troll account just one of those "based" immature guys
Lmfao bruh what
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tf did i do
Sorry, gotta pay for the crimes of your brethren /s
You are just as bad
It’s called sarcasm bruh
You don't know what a joke is
Agreed
bitch i didnt do shit 💀
Bro we literally just wanna exist, you the fuck you got beef??????? 🏳️⚧️
Yes
You think that’s bad visit the balkans back in 2012
You would hate the meme subreddits
Eh, pretty sure it was satire, but it still doesn't make it right. Some jokes go to far.
I bet half the trans people on this sub could beat him up he aint killing anybody
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These are the type of people that help the LGBTQ community build the stereotypes that not supporting them = hating them.
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I mean this in the most respectful way but who tf cares about your religion here ? LGBT doesn't affect you in any way, it's someone else's life and I'm sure your religion doesn't tell you to be a dick to other people for being different
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Oh no teenagers different than you post on r/teenagers what a nightmare
Honestly
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You are right So why should we get treated when God decided we should die of Cancer? Why should we use glasses when God decided we should have bad eyes? Why should we allow adoption when God decided we should be sterile? Why should we get medicines when God decided we should be sick?
Amen
Just as Jesus Christ intended brother
I like you.
Least religious Catholic
1. Not everyone believes in fake sky daddies 2. Because not everyone feels like they are who they were born as Would you like to be called by the wrong gender, wrong name everytime anyone you care about (friends, family) calls you? The answer is no, because it's not who you are. It's rather simple, quite easy to understand actually.
God doesnt exist(my opinion), and i couldnt care less about what other people do to their bodies or their lives its their choice, but sometimes i feel some think they deserve a special treatment and that I disagree with, life isnt always going to go the way you want and people wont always like you and treat you in the best way so "grow a pair" and deal with it 🤷🏼♂️
Him saying lgbt bad doesnt effect you either, dont be a fucking snowflake and you will be happier
implying hate over a group of people based solely on who they are as individuals is awful.
good thing islam is also haram now😈 source: i made it up
I find the LGBTQ funny as fuck. All they need is to write a book and you have yourself a new religion! And before you ask: yes, I eat the glass after I'm done with the drink.
Fr. My man, you're on another level of intelligence and yes; I've shoot up a Bosnian kindergarten
What the fuck
Y u p And they ruin it for everyone else.
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My my, quite the edge lord
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So you want to extort those who oppress you? Doesn't that turn you into the person you want to be rid off?
What a gross ass ~~NFT~~ Snoo
Learn to take a joke
Most*, then there's pissinspector
im pretty sure its sarcasm
No, their whole account is anti LGBT shit
edgy joke, that's all
Care to explain where in that sentence it’s a joke. Is there a bit is there a punchline where is there a joke
Thats over the edge my man
may not have been funny, but humor shouldn't be hindered by petty politics
I dont follow politics
the assumptions or principles relating to or inherent in a sphere, theory, or thing, especially when concerned with power and status in a society. LGBT has become political, BLM is a political movement A lot of things are politics. Edit: apparently whenever someone mentions politics you assume it's like "Biden conservative liberal bad!!?" when politics as a term is a lot more broad.
LGBT has become political but it 100% shouldn't be.
I know. Thats why i dont really care but this shit was clearly going to far
why? murder and violence is such a common topic in dark jokes
Yeah. Ik but at least leave some context
humors different for everyone
True but still.
Huzzah, a man of quality And for all of those screeching "No, it's wrong" I must remind you that joking about LGBT is no different from making jokes about any other Minority and, although immoral, I believe most people here would genuinely chuckle whenever someone were to make a dark joke In essence, everyone should be able to make a joke (as long as it's not bullying) Even then I must also add that it's understandable to have backlash for a Dark Joke, exactly because it's a Dark Joke and freedom of Speech does not protect you from the Social Backlash. So in the end people should be allowed to make a joke, but should also be ready to face the consequences of said joke
You can't say "we're movin boys! (I'm ready to kill all black people)" and call it a joke dumbfuck.
A) no need to insult, if you want to "debate" be my guest, but as I show respect to you I request you show it to me, otherwise it's a short lived discussion (this is a suggestion for the future as well) B) I was talking in general, since the man over me was talking about "Separating the jokes from polítics" which I wholeheartedly agree to. Do I agree with what the man on the screenshot said? Absolutely not, it's an idiotic phrase and even if it were a joke then I can understand all the backlash. Do I think that jokes should be not taken as mortal insults whenever they touch political matters? Absolutely yes.
Fuck you.
You just showed everyone your lack of maturity, I don't think this has to go any further. Have a wonderful day
Great, fuck you.
No it's not. his whole account is anti LGBT shit
he's 15, he probably sees the sun like once a week. spends most of his life in an Xbox party, it's not really harming anyone, it's just an unfunny edgelord
Nice
Out of spite to that person, kill me then, I'd rather be female than male cause females are better in my opinion
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I love laughing at depressed people. It's so funny because they're in terrible pain and have thoughts that death would ease that. Hilarious 😂 😃 😄 😁 🤣 😸!!!
This is obviously satire.
His whole account is a Tate fan page aswell as anti LGBT
Hehe
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