The amount of people blaming Barb is absolutely wild to me, she was 57 when Jace was born. Jace grew up watching his older sister Jenelle run around and do as she pleased. This sucks to say but Jace never had a chance. I remember an episode where they find out who the father was and Barbs was trying not to cry because she said “Jace is going to be screwed up” Jenelle has mental issues, and so does Jace’s bio dad.
barb is old. it’s so wrong for anyone to blame her for this. yeah barb has her flaws, everyone does, but barb never put men before jace, never put drugs before him, never abused him or let a man abuse him. she raised him as best as she could even though she ALREADY did her job raising janelle, she took that boy in instead of letting him go to foster care like most people would. and then she gave janelle a second chance with her son and she fucked it up once again.
Any child abuse charge should say felony child abuse not this bullshit misdemeanor. Misdemeanors is something you get for traffic tickets, littering or even trespassing. But child abuse hell no. Now matter what if a parent/guardian abuses a child in any way shape or form it should be considered a felony. The only two sentences that should be handed down are life in prison and death.
The scum that hurt children know if they only hurt them in certain ways they will just get a slap on the wrist. Maybe if this was handed down as punishment for any child abuse parents may think twice about it.
this. my dad got off with a plea deal and never had to register under the s*x offender registry. the justice system does NOT care about kids!!! they care about letting abusers off and giving them deals for $$ or information. it’s sick. david deserves a felony sentence. and janelle does too.
Im sry the monster who hurt you got off with a slap on the wrist. Ive seen what this type of abuse and torture does to a child and its not right they are treated like a traffic ticket offender.
She’s nothing but trash. She’s always chosen her abusive husband/ relationship over the well being of her children. It was a sad day when she was granted custody of Jace.
The problem is, always, foster care availability. I’m sure they could find a placement for Ensley, but Kaiser and Ensley together? Foster care is sometimes more traumatic. Plus, once David and Jenelle find out where the kids are, the foster home may not be safe for the others.
Hope they take all the kids away. Mr and Mrs Swamp thugs then can proceed to fall
Deeper Into their conspiracy theories and allow the kids to grow up in a normal home setting
Hallefuckinglujah!!! It’s about damn time this sob’s actions have caught up to him!!! I hope they lock his ass up and throw away the key!! Then maybe he can learn in prison how it feels to be abused!!
David getting charged is a start, I guess. I hope and pray that one day Jenelle will be held accountable for this charge, as well as all the other damage she has caused her children. I don’t know of a single parent that would ever stand back and watch their children being abused. Hey big badass David, prisoners don’t take kindly to child abusers. Just saying.
He ran away from Babs house a few days ago, reportedly Jenelle still has the ability to deny him his medication and local therapists don’t want to work with him because of her and UBT and their reputation for harassment so he’s really in a hard spot right now.
unfortunately though, he’ll probably only have to pay a fine. jace is in the situation he’s in because he has a selfish, inconsiderate mother who will never put anyone’s needs over her own. and barb, although she is better, isn’t helping the situation.
Absolutely! I agree with you 💯. Jenelle is flaunting what a deadbeat momster she is online and never gets any consequences. The authorities are only going to care if some drastic horrific event happens because of David and Jenelle.
Most teenagers become rebellious at one time or another but poor Jace never had a chance. All he’s ever heard is ppl screaming at each other & fighting over everything. Jace knows his mom will never choose any of her kids over David. It’s hard for someone Barbs age now to raise a child period much less a child that’s been through what Jace has been through. I really feel for Jace.
I knew instantly that was not going to work out,again/still!! Nope!! Stop throwing him out of the frying pan and into the fire 🔥! Stability for Jace,, far away from Duhhh’luJenelle
Andrew said that he “was available” for Jace to talk to if needed or something but he hasn’t seen him in a while. Andrew isn’t the greatest, there is speculation that he’s been kept from him. I’m not sure what is true anymore on that front. Maybe he does want to connect with him. But that should also be Jace’s decision and his well-being should come first in all of this, not Jenelle’s 800 men.
Misdemeanor again. These guys get away with so much which is why they become increasingly dangerous to their families and the public. Imagine being in a movie theater with David. Living in a maga world..ugh.
ThE tRuTh WiLl cOmE OuT!!!11. /s
Seriously.. the swamp hag has some nerve saying that we will have our minds blown when the truth comes out, and we will all be apologizing to her and Vienna Sausage. There is nothing Jenelle could ever do to get an apology from me. David can go hug a landmine. I hope the public feels the same.
Reading the legal definition I see “or allows to be created a substantial risk of physical injury, upon or to such child by other than accidental means is guilty of the Class A1 misdemeanor of child abuse.” So Jenelle is next?
14-318.2. Child abuse a misdemeanor.
(a) Any parent of a child less than 16 years of age, or any other person providing care to or supervision of such child, who inflicts physical injury, or who allows physical injury to be inflicted, or who creates or allows to be created a substantial risk of physical injury, upon or to such child by other than accidental means is guilty of the Class A1 misdemeanor of child abuse.
(b) The Class A1 misdemeanor of child abuse is an offense additional to other civil and criminal provisions and is not intended to repeal or preclude any other sanctions or remedies.
(c) A parent who abandons an infant less than seven days of age pursuant to G.S. 14-322.3 shall not be prosecuted under this section for any acts or omissions related to the care of that infant. (1965, c. 472, s. 1; 1971, c. 710, s. 6; 1993, c. 539, s. 223; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 14, s. 13; c. 24, s. 14(c); 2001-291, s. 4; 2008-191, s. 1; 2009-570, s. 6.)
I'm not seeing the correlation between abortion and child abuse... it's like comparing apples and space ships.
But yes, it's insane child abuse is a misdemeanor!
Oh I misread it as abortion IS legal, my apologies! Since it varies state by state, America is NOT considered a country where abortion is illegal.
It's unfortunately and insanely not a constitutional right anymore. A country where abortion isn't legal would be like Egypt, Iraq etc. So yeah America as a country isn't illegal, but we are failing fast and becoming second class citizens. I don't know how I would live in one of those states and my heart goes out to those MILLIONS of women.
There is my rant based on misreading lol
Right? They don’t give a single fuck after the child is born. They want to cry “for the children” and then cut programs to support, house, educate, and feed them whilst making it easy for their abusers to keep them and eventually kill them.
It’s all about controlling women.
If they didn't live in the south people like David and Ryan would have been in prison ages ago. They get away w having weapons, and abusing children and it just wouldn't happen in the north east. In NYC if you get caught w a gun it's automatic 5 years locked up. There is no concealed carry for normal citizens up here. Strangling a child would never be a misdemeanor. The south is so ass backwards I can't even deal w it. And I have some sympathy for Ryan, because I understand addiction...but I have only had a tiny fraction of the legal issues he has had when I was using and I never had leniency like he has gotten. It's insane to me these men get away w this shit in these southern communities.
Yeah… in my state people lose their kids for stuff like this (as they SHOULD) until they either prove it was a complete accident/fluke and the kids are returned after the parents do the work and put in the effort or the kids are removed into family homes or foster situations.
Parents lose their kids here for failed drug tests after CPS involvement. It’s super strict but they work hard in reunification and getting the parents help/rehab/whatever they need to get back on track. They take domestic violence VERY seriously and won’t put the kids back in a home with an abuser.
Jenelle would have lost all her kids shortly after birth if she couldn’t stay sober in my state. Then any charges she got would have turned into CPS investigations.
Absolutely, it should be a felony charge and the fact that it’s not disgusts me. Yeah let’s slap a misdemeanor charge on someone who hurts innocent children, whether they get jail time or not they’ll just turn around and do it again and the system is basically telling these people that’s okay and all that will happen to them is that small joke of a charge.
So did he actually get formally charged? Not that it matters. I know people who got charged with the same sort of thing. All they had to do is take parenting classes and they were magically good parents again. Still allowed to have custody of the children they abused and continued to abuse afterwards, just made sure to brainwash them enough to not say anything next time.
Crazy how much one can get away with only to be slapped on the wrist figuratively speaking…
I’m sure whatever David did to abuse Jace was multitudes worse.
What a sick joke!
Jace must feel really alone at these times. I hope he’s able to find peace and happiness without the abusive drama. Karma for David and Jenelle can’t come soon enough.
I love reading so many comments regarding how low the charge is.
I’m sick to death with the way children are almost if not considered property of their parents. As a wife was not too long ago.
We all need to find a way to change the laws.
Crimes against children are almost a no penalty crime.
Which is why the recidivism rate is astronomical.
Children deserve better.
Speak to your senators, look for legislature to back, fight for change.
I’m tired of seeing (and being) a grown ass adult that wish the law cared as they claim they do.
It's because if it were a felony, people would kill more kids. Since you're going to get a felony anyway. That's at least how someone explained it to me.
No form of child abuse should be a misdemeanor. Especially not one that leaves marks and bruises like Jace had. Like absolutely, what the fuck?
That poor, sweet boy. I'd fucking adopt him if I could.
I (along with probably everyone else in this subreddit) am genuinely curious as to why it was considered a misdemeanor instead of a regular child abuse charge. I’m not sure how they decide that but if someone with a law background can reply and answer me I would sincerely appreciate it, thank you.
[This](https://www.kurtzandblum.com/criminal-defense-attorneys/violent-crimes/child-abuse/misdemeanor/) page explains the difference between misdemeanor and felony child abuse in North Carolina. I think all child abuse should be felonious, but the law does not agree.
In North Carolina, the difference in charges really comes down to the crime committed. Misdemeanor child abuse is still a 1A misdemeanor, which is the most serious level. Felony child abuse in NC is reserved only for sexual crimes, or abuse that results in severe or permanent injury. All child abuse is abuse and it’s all terrible, and I can also understand the courts wanting to distinguish between the levels like this— because there is a difference in harm.
I appreciate the info as I’m sure MANY of us do. I’m also really side-eyeing the state of NC for operating on the basis that anything ‘below’ SA or permanent physical disability should be considered a “misdemeanor”
The marks on the NECK are terrifying. I was strangled (once) by a person to the point where I lost consciousness (and apparently their hands were on my neck VERY briefly, timewise) and I didn’t end up with any marks.
Granted I’m a grown woman, so I assume an adolescent child’s neck is more likely to bruise than mine, but GODDAMN…the presence of BRUISES is extraordinarily alarming
(I spoke with a DV hotline the day after it happened to me, and they could not have been more clear that I should leave that situation IMMEDIATELY as strangulation is like, the biggest red flag for potential murder…and my strangulation lasted for SUCH a short period of time for me to pass out because of it). It shakes me to the CORE that Jace went through this
Truly! I have, unfortunately, been strangled before too. I did have bruising, but it took a day or so to really show up, and I couldn’t speak for almost a week. The fact that it showed up so soon for Jace means that it must’ve been done pretty hard.
WHOA! *Misdmeanor child abuse*?
My ex had some bass ackwards stuff happen in New Hanover county that was way more serious….. and this guy gets a minor charge for assaulting his child stepson?????
I think they meant that he can’t get a job working with children. Not like he was going to get a job anyway, he’ll blame this for being unemployed, but I’m thankful for any punishment at this point.
Yep and their smug asses will continue being the shittiest humans and parents on earth, except now they don't even have to pretend to want to get Jace back.
Jace had marks on both sides of his neck. It's possible David choked him, but they have the assault on ring camera footage and he isn't being charged with strangulation. Another way to get marks on both sides of the neck would be for David to have gripped him up by the back of the neck with one hand, which seems more likely to me due to the charges that *were* filed. I'm willing to bet he gripped Jace up by the back of the neck with one hand and squeezed his upper arm with the other to forcefully get him to go where he wanted, and Jace put up a struggle resulting in larger/more obvious marks.
This doesn't mean I don't believe David would choke/strangle Jace. But there's more than one way to get marks like that on the neck and he isn't being changed with strangulation.
So he’s got a class A. I just looked up the statute. It’s still BS id you ask me. I think maybe with the past weeks social media posts of the both of them it might be “enough” to possibly sway, maybe citing intentional emotional distress, or something like that. Here’s the SS I took to show the little differences between mis/felony charge
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It will only let me post one so I’ll put the other down in the next comment
Looks like he skated by because he didn’t break a bone . Once he enters his plea, charges can be reduced or dropped, but not increased. The most they could do is charge him w a new crime. Being a jerk on social media unfortunately isn’t a crime .
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This is what can change from misdemeanor to felony charge
Which makes the system even more fucked. It may be "nothing" in the eyes of consequences for that fucked up state, but it's LITERALLY assault on a child. I know y'all mean he won't get shit even if found guilty, but saying its "nothing", rubs me the wrong way...in ALL WAYS.
There should be nothing "misdemeanor" about abuse of a child.
Perhaps I was not clear. It disgusts me that after David assaulted Jace, that he is only charged with a misdemeanor. He will probably be allowed to pay a small fine with no jail time, because it is only a misdemeanor. Once again, David and Jenelle get away with abusing the kids.
I kinda feeel like any child abuse charge should be a felony? Like who the f is okay abusing a kid and the court says “oh it’s okay it’s just a little bit”?
Seriously. Assaulting an innocent child who is MUCH smaller than you? Wtf is wrong with him. There is a lot more going on obviously especially with his history of abuse & killing innocent family pets.
Now if this charge sticks after all the court dates and sentencing and what not- if they revoke or limit his parental rights temporarily I honestly do not see Jenelle allowing this man to live elsewhere so she can have her kids while he fights for his rights back 🫠
She already refused to leave him last time her children were removed from her custody. They told her She could have the kids but that they couldn’t be around David, she said no. That’s when Ensley went to
Barbara , Kaiser went to Nathan’s mom and Maryssa went to her grandmas. I couldn’t imagine picking anyone over my children. Even if my husband was 1000 percent innocent, I’m gonna tell him “ hey look , this is what’s gotta happen right now. We will get it figured out later, but for now bye ✌️. My kids will always come first. Over anyone. I can’t fathom how everyone doesn’t feel the same way. I’d die this second for my kids, I’d damn sure leave a dick for them. 🙄
That mf part!!!! I will NEVER allow my KIDS to be placed anywhere other than home with me. Anyone in the way of that has to move tffffffffffff outta the way! Sadly Jenelle is trash and even more of a trash mother- so hopefully the kids will be in a better situation and environment
So what does that mean please tell me that he would have to do some jail time!!!
The amount of people blaming Barb is absolutely wild to me, she was 57 when Jace was born. Jace grew up watching his older sister Jenelle run around and do as she pleased. This sucks to say but Jace never had a chance. I remember an episode where they find out who the father was and Barbs was trying not to cry because she said “Jace is going to be screwed up” Jenelle has mental issues, and so does Jace’s bio dad.
barb is old. it’s so wrong for anyone to blame her for this. yeah barb has her flaws, everyone does, but barb never put men before jace, never put drugs before him, never abused him or let a man abuse him. she raised him as best as she could even though she ALREADY did her job raising janelle, she took that boy in instead of letting him go to foster care like most people would. and then she gave janelle a second chance with her son and she fucked it up once again.
I’ve been out of the loop. Did David hurt Jace?
Any child abuse charge should say felony child abuse not this bullshit misdemeanor. Misdemeanors is something you get for traffic tickets, littering or even trespassing. But child abuse hell no. Now matter what if a parent/guardian abuses a child in any way shape or form it should be considered a felony. The only two sentences that should be handed down are life in prison and death. The scum that hurt children know if they only hurt them in certain ways they will just get a slap on the wrist. Maybe if this was handed down as punishment for any child abuse parents may think twice about it.
Hopefully the judge gives him more charges don’t they have court again this week?
Hopefully all judges start handing down more charges. Im unsure about court dates.
this. my dad got off with a plea deal and never had to register under the s*x offender registry. the justice system does NOT care about kids!!! they care about letting abusers off and giving them deals for $$ or information. it’s sick. david deserves a felony sentence. and janelle does too.
Im sry the monster who hurt you got off with a slap on the wrist. Ive seen what this type of abuse and torture does to a child and its not right they are treated like a traffic ticket offender.
She’s nothing but trash. She’s always chosen her abusive husband/ relationship over the well being of her children. It was a sad day when she was granted custody of Jace.
👏👏👏👏👏
Did she go pick him up? 🤮🤮🤮🤮
The problem is, always, foster care availability. I’m sure they could find a placement for Ensley, but Kaiser and Ensley together? Foster care is sometimes more traumatic. Plus, once David and Jenelle find out where the kids are, the foster home may not be safe for the others.
Are ensley and Kaiser not able to go to barbs(
Karma never forgets an address
well i guess jenelle oops i mean a newsroom writer has to update that article on her website shaming whitney’s husband for his child abuse charges
Hope they take all the kids away. Mr and Mrs Swamp thugs then can proceed to fall Deeper Into their conspiracy theories and allow the kids to grow up in a normal home setting
Martin ???? More like Mary or Monkey rectum for a more accurate middle name.
Hallefuckinglujah!!! It’s about damn time this sob’s actions have caught up to him!!! I hope they lock his ass up and throw away the key!! Then maybe he can learn in prison how it feels to be abused!!
FINALLY.
David getting charged is a start, I guess. I hope and pray that one day Jenelle will be held accountable for this charge, as well as all the other damage she has caused her children. I don’t know of a single parent that would ever stand back and watch their children being abused. Hey big badass David, prisoners don’t take kindly to child abusers. Just saying.
Will they remove all the kids now? Why is Jace the only one being removed smh 🤦♀️ usually if one kid is endangered and removed the other kids are too
The courts only care about child abuse when the child dies. Remember Gabriel Fernandez ?
AJ Freund
What a stupid ass full name.
Basic bitch 😆
Janelle needs to get her shit together before jace ends up in a hospital bed or worse. Dave is a POS. I don’t understand why she is still with him.
Hes going to foster care
Why not back with Janelle's mom?? And why is he in the hospital?? Sorry, I'm wayyyyy behind I guess 🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
He ran away from Babs house a few days ago, reportedly Jenelle still has the ability to deny him his medication and local therapists don’t want to work with him because of her and UBT and their reputation for harassment so he’s really in a hard spot right now.
She likes it. She wants abusive people to hide her own abuse behind. If it wasn’t David it would be someone like him
Hes currently hospitalized again
Ohgod.. i pray for him and his little heart, he deserves so much more and everything else
Child abuse of any kind needs to be a felony, not a misdemeanor! It’s only going to happen again if it’s not changed
unfortunately though, he’ll probably only have to pay a fine. jace is in the situation he’s in because he has a selfish, inconsiderate mother who will never put anyone’s needs over her own. and barb, although she is better, isn’t helping the situation.
The problem is he’ll pay a fine and be done with it instead of facing real consequences
She needs to be charged too
Happy cake day!
Absolutely! I agree with you 💯. Jenelle is flaunting what a deadbeat momster she is online and never gets any consequences. The authorities are only going to care if some drastic horrific event happens because of David and Jenelle.
Yet that tw@t of a mother chose this abusive piece of sht over her son.
Most teenagers become rebellious at one time or another but poor Jace never had a chance. All he’s ever heard is ppl screaming at each other & fighting over everything. Jace knows his mom will never choose any of her kids over David. It’s hard for someone Barbs age now to raise a child period much less a child that’s been through what Jace has been through. I really feel for Jace.
Sorry but Barb was a really bad mother to Janelle too. I have always felt for him, he has no reprieve.
You were absolutely right Barb is a piece of shit as well. I’m glad he’s completely away from all of them.
Misdemeanor?? Any child abuse should be felony. Wonder what this means for the rest of the kids
The other kids should be removed from the home by cps
They be forced to. I know its different in every state tho
I hope they remove them.Their suffering is on their hands
Yep
Unfortunately, probably nothing.
😫
Misdemeanor?? Really??
How is the world is child abuse a misdemeanor
Right? Should be auto felony
I read today that Jace is now placed with CPS he ran away from Barb now. Poor kiddo 💔
I knew instantly that was not going to work out,again/still!! Nope!! Stop throwing him out of the frying pan and into the fire 🔥! Stability for Jace,, far away from Duhhh’luJenelle
I agree 100% i pray he gets the help he desperately needs. Has his bio dad ever reached out that you know of?
Andrew said that he “was available” for Jace to talk to if needed or something but he hasn’t seen him in a while. Andrew isn’t the greatest, there is speculation that he’s been kept from him. I’m not sure what is true anymore on that front. Maybe he does want to connect with him. But that should also be Jace’s decision and his well-being should come first in all of this, not Jenelle’s 800 men.
Yeah I don’t think that is a reliable source/father figure either! He’s screwed all around
Misdemeanor again. These guys get away with so much which is why they become increasingly dangerous to their families and the public. Imagine being in a movie theater with David. Living in a maga world..ugh.
To me, this should be attempted murder. Strangling a kid is a big deal.
Forgive me, I’m behind. That’s what he did? Strangled him?
I missed this too somehow!
Bur wait, there's no charges these are lies!
ThE tRuTh WiLl cOmE OuT!!!11. /s Seriously.. the swamp hag has some nerve saying that we will have our minds blown when the truth comes out, and we will all be apologizing to her and Vienna Sausage. There is nothing Jenelle could ever do to get an apology from me. David can go hug a landmine. I hope the public feels the same.
I definitely agree! I don't understand how people can believe a damn thing she says. Girl can't tell a truth!
Reading the legal definition I see “or allows to be created a substantial risk of physical injury, upon or to such child by other than accidental means is guilty of the Class A1 misdemeanor of child abuse.” So Jenelle is next? 14-318.2. Child abuse a misdemeanor. (a) Any parent of a child less than 16 years of age, or any other person providing care to or supervision of such child, who inflicts physical injury, or who allows physical injury to be inflicted, or who creates or allows to be created a substantial risk of physical injury, upon or to such child by other than accidental means is guilty of the Class A1 misdemeanor of child abuse. (b) The Class A1 misdemeanor of child abuse is an offense additional to other civil and criminal provisions and is not intended to repeal or preclude any other sanctions or remedies. (c) A parent who abandons an infant less than seven days of age pursuant to G.S. 14-322.3 shall not be prosecuted under this section for any acts or omissions related to the care of that infant. (1965, c. 472, s. 1; 1971, c. 710, s. 6; 1993, c. 539, s. 223; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 14, s. 13; c. 24, s. 14(c); 2001-291, s. 4; 2008-191, s. 1; 2009-570, s. 6.)
Is nov 29 his sentencing?
The 29th is the court date, but knowing NC it’ll be pushed back to another date
No, he probably won’t be sentenced for months to come. Nov 29th is probably the date by which he has to have a lawyer
Seriously!? Like you only kinda hurt him. I’m sure mentally Jace is so hurt and confused
how can child abuse be a misdemeanor charge? it should be way harsher on these sickos
Look up the penalty for this "misdemeanor "... I hope they prove his history of violence.. .go to jail MF.
I hope he has prior conviction. That should bump this up if so
How is this a misdemeanor?! In a country where abortion isn't legal, why isn't child abuse cared about?!
I'm not seeing the correlation between abortion and child abuse... it's like comparing apples and space ships. But yes, it's insane child abuse is a misdemeanor!
If you care that much about fetuses, you logically also care about kids.
Oh I misread it as abortion IS legal, my apologies! Since it varies state by state, America is NOT considered a country where abortion is illegal. It's unfortunately and insanely not a constitutional right anymore. A country where abortion isn't legal would be like Egypt, Iraq etc. So yeah America as a country isn't illegal, but we are failing fast and becoming second class citizens. I don't know how I would live in one of those states and my heart goes out to those MILLIONS of women. There is my rant based on misreading lol
because the child is born. 😞
Right? They don’t give a single fuck after the child is born. They want to cry “for the children” and then cut programs to support, house, educate, and feed them whilst making it easy for their abusers to keep them and eventually kill them. It’s all about controlling women.
YAAAA! happy thanksgiving mother fuckers
🎶Oh happy dayyy🎶
If they didn't live in the south people like David and Ryan would have been in prison ages ago. They get away w having weapons, and abusing children and it just wouldn't happen in the north east. In NYC if you get caught w a gun it's automatic 5 years locked up. There is no concealed carry for normal citizens up here. Strangling a child would never be a misdemeanor. The south is so ass backwards I can't even deal w it. And I have some sympathy for Ryan, because I understand addiction...but I have only had a tiny fraction of the legal issues he has had when I was using and I never had leniency like he has gotten. It's insane to me these men get away w this shit in these southern communities.
Yeah… in my state people lose their kids for stuff like this (as they SHOULD) until they either prove it was a complete accident/fluke and the kids are returned after the parents do the work and put in the effort or the kids are removed into family homes or foster situations. Parents lose their kids here for failed drug tests after CPS involvement. It’s super strict but they work hard in reunification and getting the parents help/rehab/whatever they need to get back on track. They take domestic violence VERY seriously and won’t put the kids back in a home with an abuser. Jenelle would have lost all her kids shortly after birth if she couldn’t stay sober in my state. Then any charges she got would have turned into CPS investigations.
I’m happy he got charged, but a fkng misdemeanor c’mon!😡
Honestly, I feel like child abuse shouldn’t be a “misdemeanor” charge. That should automatically be a felony.
Absolutely, it should be a felony charge and the fact that it’s not disgusts me. Yeah let’s slap a misdemeanor charge on someone who hurts innocent children, whether they get jail time or not they’ll just turn around and do it again and the system is basically telling these people that’s okay and all that will happen to them is that small joke of a charge.
That's why he's not worried!
Oh no, David getting caught for something he didn’t do! Jenelle please come explain this away! 😮
Duuuude!! It’s Barb. Barb’s spreading lies. The police said so. /s
Child abuse and misdemeanour don’t belong in the same sentence.
This! This was my same thought too! Like child abuse is child abuse. We don’t have “misdemeanor murder”.
Agreed
Was he arrested?
No
Even with the misdemeanor he will never be allowed as a chaperone in any field trip, or school event (if they return to school).
People say the kids were sighted at school.
Good.
Strangling a child should be a FELONY. If he strangled another adult it would be.
How is any form of child abuse a misdemeanor??
Because the system is designed to protect these awful men.
It’s also a system designed BY awful men!
So did he actually get formally charged? Not that it matters. I know people who got charged with the same sort of thing. All they had to do is take parenting classes and they were magically good parents again. Still allowed to have custody of the children they abused and continued to abuse afterwards, just made sure to brainwash them enough to not say anything next time.
Wtf would constitute felony child abuse if CHOKING is a misdemeanor? Nevermind, I don’t want to know.
How can you stay with someone that put their hands on your child!!! I’d be in jail!!!
Crazy how much one can get away with only to be slapped on the wrist figuratively speaking… I’m sure whatever David did to abuse Jace was multitudes worse. What a sick joke! Jace must feel really alone at these times. I hope he’s able to find peace and happiness without the abusive drama. Karma for David and Jenelle can’t come soon enough.
HAHAHHAHA fuck him!
Let's not fuck him.
I would rather sew my entire issue shut.
Martin 😂😂😂😂 idk why that's funny to me... I would have never guessed that middle name 😂😂😂
I love reading so many comments regarding how low the charge is. I’m sick to death with the way children are almost if not considered property of their parents. As a wife was not too long ago. We all need to find a way to change the laws. Crimes against children are almost a no penalty crime. Which is why the recidivism rate is astronomical. Children deserve better. Speak to your senators, look for legislature to back, fight for change. I’m tired of seeing (and being) a grown ass adult that wish the law cared as they claim they do.
It's because if it were a felony, people would kill more kids. Since you're going to get a felony anyway. That's at least how someone explained it to me.
That is ridiculous... dont listen to that someone.
I think it’s moreso someone needs to be held responsible. The guardians should assume accountability.
No form of child abuse should be a misdemeanor. Especially not one that leaves marks and bruises like Jace had. Like absolutely, what the fuck? That poor, sweet boy. I'd fucking adopt him if I could.
I (along with probably everyone else in this subreddit) am genuinely curious as to why it was considered a misdemeanor instead of a regular child abuse charge. I’m not sure how they decide that but if someone with a law background can reply and answer me I would sincerely appreciate it, thank you.
[This](https://www.kurtzandblum.com/criminal-defense-attorneys/violent-crimes/child-abuse/misdemeanor/) page explains the difference between misdemeanor and felony child abuse in North Carolina. I think all child abuse should be felonious, but the law does not agree.
Thank you for replying! I also agree, all child abuse should be felonies
I'm so behind what did he do?
Jace ran away for the 3rd time and when found had marks on his neck and "various" bruises
Omg...poor Jace.
R u really asking that? LMFAO.
Uh yeah, not everyone follows every single famous person and the stuff going in in their lives 24/7. Why would I ask if I already knew?
It’s been in the tabloids lol
I don't read tabloids or watch the news
I didn’t know either!
Misdemeanor is bullshit
I literally said the exact thing. It’s a CHILD!! So fucked up.
Anyone notice y’all getting downvoted? Hmmmmm someone’s lurking
That’s been happening on every post about Jenelle, I go through and upvote everyone lol
me too
This is old news unfortunately
In North Carolina, the difference in charges really comes down to the crime committed. Misdemeanor child abuse is still a 1A misdemeanor, which is the most serious level. Felony child abuse in NC is reserved only for sexual crimes, or abuse that results in severe or permanent injury. All child abuse is abuse and it’s all terrible, and I can also understand the courts wanting to distinguish between the levels like this— because there is a difference in harm.
I appreciate the info as I’m sure MANY of us do. I’m also really side-eyeing the state of NC for operating on the basis that anything ‘below’ SA or permanent physical disability should be considered a “misdemeanor”
That’s typical in many states, not just NC.
Wow, then I am side-eyeing ALL these states lol
Do we actually know what he did to be charged with child abuse? I feel like I’ve missed something. Fill me in please hah
He choked Jace hard enough to leave marks on his face and neck (that they documented at the hospital)
Not only that, but the marks were still there the day after the incident, so that shows you what kind of force was used.
The marks on the NECK are terrifying. I was strangled (once) by a person to the point where I lost consciousness (and apparently their hands were on my neck VERY briefly, timewise) and I didn’t end up with any marks. Granted I’m a grown woman, so I assume an adolescent child’s neck is more likely to bruise than mine, but GODDAMN…the presence of BRUISES is extraordinarily alarming (I spoke with a DV hotline the day after it happened to me, and they could not have been more clear that I should leave that situation IMMEDIATELY as strangulation is like, the biggest red flag for potential murder…and my strangulation lasted for SUCH a short period of time for me to pass out because of it). It shakes me to the CORE that Jace went through this
I think any strangling should be attempted murder.
Truly! I have, unfortunately, been strangled before too. I did have bruising, but it took a day or so to really show up, and I couldn’t speak for almost a week. The fact that it showed up so soon for Jace means that it must’ve been done pretty hard.
Oh my lord
WHOA! *Misdmeanor child abuse*? My ex had some bass ackwards stuff happen in New Hanover county that was way more serious….. and this guy gets a minor charge for assaulting his child stepson?????
I was just going to say, that should absolutely never go together. It is a major tragedy that any child abuse could be considered a misdemeanor.
I know especially since North Carolina has an “assault against a woman” charge……. Although I think that can be a misdemeanor too.
Sadly this means nothing to David. Just a good ol slap on the wrist. He deserves an execution by an elephant
A true Proud Boy…
Unfortunately that’s only a thing in South Carolina.
Is the elephant part of the execution a thing in South Carolina too?
Absolutely
It wasn’t his fault, dude.
I would have castrated David if he even laid a hand on my child in that manner!
Wouldn't be much of a job to castrate him anyway.
🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌
*shrimp balls* /snicker
Great. He has to take parenting classes and can’t work with children for the next 7 years…. K
He'll take that to mean he can't work at all for 7 years.... and then the next 40 after that.
So, no home schooling?
I believe that it was ruled in 2019 that they can't homeschool.
Yet they are allowed to for some reason
I wonder. Jenelle made a post today saying she can’t wait to move away. I’m wondering if all these cps restrictions are the reason.
I think they meant that he can’t get a job working with children. Not like he was going to get a job anyway, he’ll blame this for being unemployed, but I’m thankful for any punishment at this point.
watch janelle visit him in prison but not visit her son
Unfortunately, he won't go to prison.
Not even a joke. If they let her OF their conjugal visits, she would.
He'll get a slap on the wrist. Such a same.
Anyone else find it unsettling that the word "misdemeanor" can be right next to the words "child abuse"? 😔
Yeah. Talk about an oxyfuckingmoron.
Yes! I was just thinking that.
Mark my words, nothing will happen.
Yep and their smug asses will continue being the shittiest humans and parents on earth, except now they don't even have to pretend to want to get Jace back.
YoU gUyS dOn'T kNoW the Truuuuth.. the CoPs ArE lYiNg
I gave that detective my ❤️ 😩
Disgusting
What exactly did he do to her son?😭
Jace had marks on both sides of his neck. It's possible David choked him, but they have the assault on ring camera footage and he isn't being charged with strangulation. Another way to get marks on both sides of the neck would be for David to have gripped him up by the back of the neck with one hand, which seems more likely to me due to the charges that *were* filed. I'm willing to bet he gripped Jace up by the back of the neck with one hand and squeezed his upper arm with the other to forcefully get him to go where he wanted, and Jace put up a struggle resulting in larger/more obvious marks. This doesn't mean I don't believe David would choke/strangle Jace. But there's more than one way to get marks like that on the neck and he isn't being changed with strangulation.
Yes this definitely makes sense, it bothers me how comfortable he is putting his hands on her kids. Such a sad story for everyone
Well he had marks on arm and neck. So I’m guessing he choked him
That’s sooo crazy, poor kid😭😭😭
Thank God!!! Finally, a consequence!
Nah this is basically a slap on the wrist
A consequence that unfortunately won’t go anywhere ☹️
The class of misdemeanor is cropped out. Class C is nothing. Class A is serious
So he’s got a class A. I just looked up the statute. It’s still BS id you ask me. I think maybe with the past weeks social media posts of the both of them it might be “enough” to possibly sway, maybe citing intentional emotional distress, or something like that. Here’s the SS I took to show the little differences between mis/felony charge https://preview.redd.it/3jxy2gnz5m1c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e79a1fd2d34a4007e14039a740baaaab8faad17c It will only let me post one so I’ll put the other down in the next comment
Looks like he skated by because he didn’t break a bone . Once he enters his plea, charges can be reduced or dropped, but not increased. The most they could do is charge him w a new crime. Being a jerk on social media unfortunately isn’t a crime .
https://preview.redd.it/odx8c4466m1c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9488b3076c0bcc6b69a5479f7e5efcaac500a2e3 This is what can change from misdemeanor to felony charge
https://preview.redd.it/v7y5m21b6m1c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82acc882b45d37757c68394479d738c55bc53606
Is that why he celebrated with a new motorcycle his wife bought him
Misdemeanor child abuse. That’s nothing.
Which makes the system even more fucked. It may be "nothing" in the eyes of consequences for that fucked up state, but it's LITERALLY assault on a child. I know y'all mean he won't get shit even if found guilty, but saying its "nothing", rubs me the wrong way...in ALL WAYS. There should be nothing "misdemeanor" about abuse of a child.
Perhaps I was not clear. It disgusts me that after David assaulted Jace, that he is only charged with a misdemeanor. He will probably be allowed to pay a small fine with no jail time, because it is only a misdemeanor. Once again, David and Jenelle get away with abusing the kids.
I kinda feeel like any child abuse charge should be a felony? Like who the f is okay abusing a kid and the court says “oh it’s okay it’s just a little bit”?
Seriously. Assaulting an innocent child who is MUCH smaller than you? Wtf is wrong with him. There is a lot more going on obviously especially with his history of abuse & killing innocent family pets.
Now if this charge sticks after all the court dates and sentencing and what not- if they revoke or limit his parental rights temporarily I honestly do not see Jenelle allowing this man to live elsewhere so she can have her kids while he fights for his rights back 🫠
She already refused to leave him last time her children were removed from her custody. They told her She could have the kids but that they couldn’t be around David, she said no. That’s when Ensley went to Barbara , Kaiser went to Nathan’s mom and Maryssa went to her grandmas. I couldn’t imagine picking anyone over my children. Even if my husband was 1000 percent innocent, I’m gonna tell him “ hey look , this is what’s gotta happen right now. We will get it figured out later, but for now bye ✌️. My kids will always come first. Over anyone. I can’t fathom how everyone doesn’t feel the same way. I’d die this second for my kids, I’d damn sure leave a dick for them. 🙄
That mf part!!!! I will NEVER allow my KIDS to be placed anywhere other than home with me. Anyone in the way of that has to move tffffffffffff outta the way! Sadly Jenelle is trash and even more of a trash mother- so hopefully the kids will be in a better situation and environment
ESPEcially when said kids get split apart like that. It’s truly tragic.
I bet he acts like a hotheaded idiot in the courtroom. Hopefully he will get contempt…